What has happened to going deep to Carr?

I’m working on some school stuff right now, but I can tell you that I did a little project on Carr right around the time of the Weatherford report. People accused me of being anti-Nole, so I didn’t publish it. I found that Carr really beat up bad teams, and his numbers against good or elite clubs weren’t pretty. (More distorted than other receivers to be sure).

I’ll get the numbers when I find a minute, but if you want to look for yourself, check his page

The question starts to become: is Greg Carr a product of bullying bad teams? I’m not sure.

I think it may be a case of calling the game loose against bad teams. For some reason, we don’t air it out as much to him against the better teams.
Now, don’t get me wrong….Carr has frustrated me with not catching the ball at the highest point and not going all out for passes. With that being said, he is more physically mature and experienced this year and I think we need to give him some additional chances. This is especially true in the red zone. The self-tip against Miami that got called back was pretty incredible.

Opponent Rec. Yards Avg. TD
9/5/2005 17 Miami (Fla.) Did not play
10/22/2005 @ Duke 6 95 15.83 3
9/10/2005 Citadel 3 104 34.67 2
9/17/2005 @ 18 Boston College 3 34 11.33 2
10/1/2005 Syracuse 0 0 - 0
10/8/2005 Wake Forest 3 129 43 1
10/15/2005 @ Virginia 3 53 17.67 0
10/29/2005 Maryland 4 55 13.75 1
11/5/2005 North Carolina St. 0 0 - 0
11/12/2005 @ 21 Clemson 0 0 - 0
11/26/2005 @ 12 Florida 1 45 45 0
12/3/2005 + 7 Virginia Tech 4 78 19.5 0
1/3/2006 + 3 Penn St. 3 25 8.33 0
Totals 30 618 20.6 9
2 Gms 9 199 9.476190476 5
10 games 21 419 14.41636364 4

Date Opponent Rec. Yards Avg. TD
9/9/2006 Troy 3 27 9 1
9/23/2006 Rice 5 107 21.4 2
10/14/2006 @ Duke 4 100 25 3
11/18/2006 Western Mich. 2 45 22.5 2
9/4/2006 @ Miami (Fla.) 1 11 11 0
9/16/2006 Clemson Did not play
10/5/2006 @ North Carolina St. 1 23 23 0
10/21/2006 20 Boston College 3 41 13.67 1
10/28/2006 @ Maryland 5 84 16.8 1
11/4/2006 Virginia 1 29 29 0
11/11/2006 18 Wake Forest 2 22 11 0
11/25/2006 1 Florida 3 42 14 1
12/27/2006 + UCLA 4 88 22 1
Totals 34 619 18.21 12
4 GMS 14 279 19.92857143 8
8 gms 20 340 17 4

Date Opponent Rec. Yards Avg. TD
9/8/2007 UAB 4 82 20.5 1
10/27/2007 Duke Did not play
9/3/2007 @ 21 Clemson 1 10 10 0
9/15/2007 @ Colorado 3 61 20.33 0
9/29/2007 + Alabama 5 107 21.4 0
10/6/2007 North Carolina St. 4 140 35 1
10/11/2007 @ Wake Forest 8 108 13.5 1
10/20/2007 Miami (Fla.) 3 41 13.67 0
11/3/2007 @ 10 Boston College 4 56 14 0
11/10/2007 @ 9 Virginia Tech 3 48 16 0
11/17/2007 Maryland 3 35 11.67 0
11/24/2007 @ 13 Florida 1 8 8 0
12/31/2007 + Kentucky 6 99 16.5 1
Totals 45 795 17.67 4
1 4 82 20.5 1
11 41 713 17.3902439 3

Date Opponent Rec. Yards Avg. TD
9/6/2008 Western Caro. 3 67 22.33 1
9/13/2008 Chattanooga 3 47 15.67 0
9/20/2008 Wake Forest 3 30 10 0
9/27/2008 + Colorado 3 29 9.67 0
10/4/2008 @ Miami (Fla.) 2 26 13 1
10/16/2008 @ North Carolina St. 2 13 6.5 0
Totals 16 212 13.25 2
2 gms 6 114 19 1
4 gms 10 98 9.8 1

9 33 674 20.42424242 15
33 92 1570 17.06521739 12

Average Game v. Schedule Filler & Duke) 3.7 75 20.4 1.7
Avg Game v. Real team 2.8 48 17.1 0.4

This is a whole new year. We have a mobile quarterback and a MUCH improved run game. Safeties and LB’ers are much more confused playing us than they have been with immobile DW and a non-existent running game. When Carr is matched up with under 6 feet tall corners, we NEED to take advantage of it and throw it up.

As I propose in another thread…have Surrency and Carr both run go routes out of a 3 Wr set. Whichever side does not have Saftey help, heave it up! If there is safety help on both sides, hit up a safety valve.

I am concerned our offense is too concentrated on the run, bubble, and short passing game. We need to stretch defenses out to keep them off balance.

BTW, your points on Carr are valid. I have never been a huge fan.

What do you mean, what do you think we do? As in game plan? Or as in result?

I have no idea.
I am flying down from Nashville with my girlfriend to Tally, so I really hope we put on a good performance.
The first quarter is so important. I really feel that if we get an early win, we can stay ahead and even win big.
If we let them score first or if the game turns into a field goal contest, I will get worried.

This is why I want to go deep to Carr or Surrency early. First play of the game would be ideal. I know establishing the running game is big, but I think we can do it reverse style this game. Establish the passing game to open up the running game.

Carr is weak, lacks physicality and does not understand body position. He has racked up some stats against DB’s who could not match his height with a properly thrown pass. If the ball is not perfect, he does not fight for it. A remnant of the Rix / Weatherford era.

Carr was HUGE yesterday. I wish we would have tried a couple more times to get him the ball down field. Big performance by Greg yesterday.

Love it when a player steps up after I put my big foot in my texting brain. Two great catches against Macho Man destroys old perceptions..Love to see more of play action with dual deep routes for Carr and Surrency to stretchem’ out!