Virginia Tech @ FSU Reaction part 2, and projection
First, please read The Reaction Part 1
The BCS puts at # 15 in the country, and we are not that good yet.
The Jeff Cameron Show Snookers JCS Top 25 has FSU at #14.
The Preliminary Blogpoll puts at # 18. We were the largest mover, gaining 8 spots.
Jeff Sagarin has us at #23, noting that we have played zero games against his top 30 teams, and have the #113th ranked schedule. Remember though, that we have the toughest remaining schedule in the nation.
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Some quick hitter thoughts:
- 1-11 on 3rd downs for Va Tech, and FSU's defense is the only team allowing under 20% conversions on 3rd down (17.5%)
- Jody Allen should still go. We need to stop out-kicking out coverage.
- Gano is an excellent kicker. I don't follow the national kicking scene, so I won't call him the best in America, but he is excellent.
- Jimbo said that the OLine was overwhelmed, and that Easterling is a beast.
- Jimbo clearly sounds worried about their defensive line and their ability to generate pressure without blitzing.
- We're destined for NOON RAYCOM against Clemson.
- Mickey was pleased with only 6 missed tackles, the best effort of the year, and is worried about our ability to stop the triple option, as it is difficult to simulate the triple option in real-speed with your scout team.
Let's get to the objective goals. I lay these out each week in The Preview
- 55% of carries by FSU RB's on First down go for 2 or more yards (win first down). This seems like a strange goal, but it is all about staying out of 3rd and long. PASS. 60% of 1st Down RB Carries went for 2+ yards.
- 60% conversions running on 3rd/ 4th & 2 or less. Fail. 1 for 2.
- 1 or fewer fumbles (Not fumbles lose, but Fumbles) Pass, though ball security is a major issue.
- 40 yards rushing from Christian. FAIL, but he is way banged up.
What are some reasonable goals for the passing offense?
- No more than .33 drop per 5 throws (works out to 2 or less per 35 throws). PASS. One drop in an impressive game from the WR's.
- QB Rating of 105+ Clearly, we're not a high completion % pass game, but Jimbo has stated that he doesn't care about that. PASS PASS PASS. 145! 11-19, 58%, 159 YDS, 1 TD 0 Int.
- No careless throws into the flat. This is big, since Va Tech scores a lot on defense. Pass
- Special Sack Rate (sacks + Holdings on dropbacks / sacks + pass attempts + holding on dropbacks) of less than 8%. Yes, 8%, they could get to us. FAIL, badly. 19 attempts, 4 sacks, 1 holding. ((4+1)/(4+19+1))= 20%. 20% is just ridiculously bad. I gave them a lot of leeway on this goal, but that was pretty bad. I'll have to adjust this goal for GTech.
- 7.5 Yards per Attempt PASS. 8.4/ ATTEMPT. This was crucial. We knew we wouldn't drive on VT, and that big plays would be key.
- No fumbles from WR's. PASS
- 2 plays with 15+ YAC. FAIL. Just didn't happen.
- No more than 1 BadReadBadThrow (BRBT) per 10 passes. Pass. Christian played a conservative game without handcuffing the offense.
- No more than 1 bad blitz pickup miss per 15 attempts (Marcus Sims, this is you) Fail. 3+ times we had enough men to block the rush, and did not get it done. Christian took a beating.
General Offensive Goals
- 4.5 YPP PASS, barely. 56 for 248 is 4.4 per play, about what we expected. I'm not coutning the awkward kneeldown.
- No more than 5 non-forced offensive penalties (I do not count O-PI here, so we are mainly talking about Personal Fouls, False Starts, Illegal formation, etc) PASS, but we needed to hold! Why not hold instead of giving up huge sacks.
- Less than 2 turnovers. PASS PASS PASS.
- No more than 1 bad snap (McMahon, please step your game up and play like what a FROSH AA should play like as a Soph). PASS PASS PASS.
- 60%+ Red Zone Touchdowns (Kicking is losing). PASS. 2-3 works here.
I'm not going to do the defensive goals, as they were mostly geared to Taylor.
Looking Ahead:
I watched a bit of GTech, and to be honest, I do not like our chances. They will exploit our lack of defensive discipline, and should rape our OLine while playing a lot of Zone coverage behind it. They do not need to blitz to get pressure. Injuries will play a major role, but at this point, I'd expect us to lose something like 23-13. This is not a favorable matchup for us, unfortunately. We CAN win, but expect a major challenge.
Let's go projecting!
We now sit at 6-1. Here is how I see the remaining games, in terms of chances of winning:
@ GT: 50% (generous)
Clemson 85%
BC 65%
@ MARYLAND 60%
UF: 25% (this is generous, let's put aside the hate and be realists).
So, that looks like we will add 2.85 wins to our total.
The most likely result is 9-3,
followed by 8-4, 10-2, 7-5, 11-1(4.5% chance), and 6-6 (0.8% chance), with the last 3 scenario's being very unlikely.
Note: experienced handicappers will tell you that a scenario like ours offers a much better chance to win 4 of the last 5 games, than a team facing 5 games with only a 57% chance of winning (2.85 projected proportional win shares distributed evenly over the remaining 5 games). So, that's good.
Will 9-3 get us to the Orange Bowl? It's very possible, as long as the 3 losses include UF, and not 3 ACC losses. 8-4 will not do the trick. 10-2 and punch your ticket.
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Tech-nical discussion
Interesting that you are more concerned with Tech than Maryland — I’d put the opposite percentages on those two games.
On Tech — a couple of things.
I think zone is a much easier defense for us to attack — the bubble screens and dump downs will always be there as opposed to press coverage.
I like our chances vs. the option better with Rolle than in previous years. Also, good chance that we can take out a QB again this week (I can just picture Brown taking the QB on the pitch — OUCH!)
Tech’s home field advantage is not strong — not a very intimidating place to play.
Anyway, haven’t really studied up on Tech, but i HAVE seen Gardner-Webb play this year and any team that can only bea the Runnin’ Bulldogs by a whisker (even if they’re playing their 45th string QB) we should be able to handle.
by Fsued on Oct 27, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We have fared well against Zone against Colorado and NC State, but poorly against Wake. The one thing we have not seen is a team generate pressure rushing only 4 men, playing 7 men in zone.
I am very concerned with Maryland as well, but I think we can put PRob on Heyward-Bay, and their defense is not spectacular.
Maryland worries me because of SCENARIO (weather game with snow, and lookahead to Florida).
GTech worries me because of scheme and personnel. It is a different type of worry. No team on our schedule is better positioned to exploit our aggressive defense and bad offensive line
Tech has done poorly against Out Routes, and that bodes well for us. They also might be missing 2 key defensive starters.
Good point about the home field advantage. I agree that we are much more disciplined in our tackling.
by FSUncensored on Oct 27, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tech runs a type of offense that is usually not very good against teams with lesserr athletes. Those teams tend to focus more on discipline whereas Mickey’s defense is all out aggression. Misdirection plays exploit that aggressiveness, which is why FSU traditionally struggles against teams like that. We’re going to need a good game from the tackles. If the LBs are free to roam and don’t need to respect the FB up the middle on the option we should be able to run down most of what Tech throws at us. Rolle should have a good game because he’ll most likely play more at the line than normal, which would mean he’ll be an extra LB for this game.
Also, winning first down is more important in this game than any others. Running attacks don’t do very well when they get behind schedule.
Weather note: it will not likely be snowing at the UMd game (it better not at least because I don’t want to sit in the snow to watch the game). It usually doesn’t snow up here until late Dec/early Jan at the latest. However, it will be very cold and will test our WRs’ hands.
by evenflow58 on Oct 28, 2008 7:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff, Evenflow
You are dead on with the DT comment.
Interesting that it won’t snow but will be cold.
by FSUncensored on Oct 28, 2008 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being between the Ocean and the mountains tends to reduce the amount of snow in the area. Keep in mind cold for me is anything under 60 as I grew up in Fort Lauderdale. I think we got snow during Thanksgiving a few years ago, but it’s never enough to accumulate because the ground is so warm.
by evenflow58 on Oct 28, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am freezing my A&$ off in Tuscaloosa.
It is below 40!
Originally from Fort Myers. Straight Gulf Coasting.
by FSUncensored on Oct 28, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GREAT BREAKDOWN
You do good stuff! I do think our line is a “little” better than they appeared this week. It seemed to me most, if not all of the trouble was coming where we were missing our starting RT.
The RT got blown up ALL DAY. When we helped on him, they blitzed on the same side….so we couldn’t help. Fisher adjusted by throwing to the same side (since there’s man) and by getting the ball out QUICK!
by truecolors on Oct 28, 2008 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, True!
We had to know that the line would struggle, as they are, um, 18 years old.
You have to like Fisher’s adjustments.
by FSUncensored on Oct 28, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Egg Mc-Muffin-ed
Was it just me or did it seem like every other play that McMahon was getting blown up 5 yards into the backfield or just tossed flat on his butt??
I remember when our schedule first came out and I saw Georgia Tech, I immediately called my brother and said watch out, the ACC has never seen an offense like they are about to see and it scares the crap outta me. There’s a reason that Navy led the nation in rushing year after year. We HAVE to be disciplined and I don’t know if we can do it. Look at the two almost identical misdirection touchdowns that we allowed against NC St and VT. My brother was listening to the press conferences yesterday and noted that someone asked Mickey if he had done any preparation over the summer for the triple option and he responded with no comment. The guy asked again and he said that he wasn’t going to answer the question….not sure what that means…
but i’m with FSUed, anytime that barely squeaks by Gardner Webb at home, we should be able to handle. i’m more afraid of the Maryland game especially if we are able to win these next three games….we could be caught looking ahead.
on a side note…does anyone else have issues when trying to read this site at work? must be something with our firewall here that messes up the page so that i can never comment…
by Renegade11 on Oct 28, 2008 9:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually thought McMahon had one of his better games this year. The NCState was much much worse for him. It looked like the problems were on the outside against VTech, which isn’t a surprise. We’ll probably see the same thing this week. Hopefully we can run enough draws, delays, and quick hitters to slow down the pass rush.
Mickey’s comment might as well been, “We’ve been working on it all season.”
Wake used to run a similar offense and it used to give us fits. They didn’t option as heavily as GTech does, but still used it very effectively.
by evenflow58 on Oct 28, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McMahon played better against VT than he did against NC State
By that, I mean he played with greater consistency. I won’t deny that he was blown up some times. My guess is that people have an increased focus on McMahon now that we’ve been discussing him for 2 weeks. Evenflow is correct, he did play much worse against NC State.
It’s tough to place his performance, relative to other games, because you have to gague his assignment and the quality of the opposing DT.
Mickey’s a damn quote machine. He slips in little gems like that every week.
I’ll send and email about the issues reading at work. That does suck.
by FSUncensored on Oct 28, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrew Carter apparently thought the quote was funny, as he provided the quote in his blog today….
“Reporter: What sort of preparations you did do over the summer and during the season for Georgia Tech’s triple-option offense?
Andrews: That’s a question I won’t answer. No comment.
Reporter: I respect that but what’s the reason for not commenting?
Andrews: I don’t have to give a reason.”
by Renegade11 on Oct 28, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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