The Conversation: Boston College
This Week's guest is guests are Jeff and Brian of BC Interruption. They run an excellent site and I really encourage you to visit. I was shocked at the depth of their coverage. I'll have their link to my responses in a bit. Here's a teaser and the rest follows the jump.
My responses to their questions.
Obviously, Matt Ryan was a huge part of the offense last year. How has your strategy/game calling changed this year with Chris Crane? Have you been surprised by his number of interceptions this year?
Brian: Have I been surprised with the interceptions? Not particularly. I mean, the knock on Matt Ryan was although he threw for over 4,500 yards and 31 touchdowns, was that he did have 19 interceptions. With Crane, while he does have 12 interceptions, what is concerning is the lack of offensive production. Crane only has 9 touchdown passes to go with his 12 INTs, and one of them came in garbage time of the UNC game. If you add in his 7 rushing touchdowns, the TD:INT ratio does creep up above 1:1, but not by much. The game plan has changed in the last few weeks, particularly the Clemson and Notre Dame games. We are now asking Crane to manage the game and limit his mistakes. The drawback, however, is that there doesn't seem to be that big-play capability with Crane this year. When he presses, that's usually when we end up getting in trouble. While Ryan could sling, Crane can be effective using his feet and limiting the turnovers.
How much did the win over ND mean heading into a brutal end to the season?
Jeff: Honestly, the win over ND, given their struggles in the last two years, did not mean a whole lot. However, a loss to them would've been devastating and I would've given the team a 0% chance to win out and go to Tampa had they lost. Instead they won, and won easily, even easier than the final score of 17-0 indicates, so I think it gives the team a little momentum going into these last three ACC games.
What area would you like to see improve the most through recruiting for next year? Any standouts/sleeper commitments that you like so far?
Jeff: Every BC fan has the same position at the top of their wish list for recuiting next year. A place kicker. A QB would be nice too but unfortunately so far there are no commitments that we are counting on impacting the team next year the way we counted on Haden filling the RB void we had this year.
What happened at the UNC game? From the stats, it looks like you guys could be an 8-1 team, except for that loss.
Brian: We certainly let the Georgia Tech and Clemson games get away from us. As for the North Carolina game, I think the loss stemmed mainly from the fact that we gave up too early on the run. Whether it was due to inconsistent line play or our young running backs not finding the hole quick enough, the second half the rushing game was ineffective and virtually non-existent. In the second half, we didn't establish the run and North Carolina's defense didn't have to scheme to stop the run. They dropped 7-8 back in coverage and picked Crane apart all day. If the interceptions hadn't been so damaging (2 returned for touchdowns, the 3rd returned to the 1 yard line), BC might have hung in this game a little longer but those are the breaks. This isn't to take anything away from the Tar Heels who played a great game and beat the Eagles in nearly every facet of that game.
How will Raji do against our offensive line?
Jeff: Raji, with Ron Brace battling next to him, does well against any offensive line and he will be playing in the NFL next year. Our defensive tackles are our strongest position on either side of the ball.
Have BC fans embraced the team's inclusion in the ACC? That is, are they "ACC fans" or still just BC fans who are aware that their team is in a new conference?
Brian: I think Eagles fans have definitely embraced the ACC as their new conference home. More and more students and alumni are making road trips to some of the ACC's finer venues for football games and seeing how much fun tailgating can be down in ACC country. Back in the Big East, there wasn't much fan interest in traveling to Pittsburgh, Morgantown, Hartford, or New Brunswick for an away football game. Plus everyone seemed to really dislike one another in the Big East. West Virginia hated Pittsburgh, we hated Syracuse for always beating us in football, Rutgers hated BC for stealing all the best New Jersey recruits, Connecticut hated us because they wanted to enjoy our level of success in football. With the exception of Virginia Tech - which is further developing into an outstanding intraconference rivalry – I can't say that Eagles fans generally dislike any other ACC teams. In my opinion, Eagles fans have a healthy respect for the other ACC schools. Also, we are now better off financially and in terms of football (more highly rated conference, championship game profits, etc.). The only drawback is that we are fairly distant from our closest geographic neighbor in the ACC.
Being so far North, can you tell us how tough is it to recruit not only against the schools like FSU, Miami, and VT but PSU, OSU, as well as the Big East schools?
Jeff: When Josh Haden chose BC over Florida last year, we celebrated. Anytime any recruit chooses BC over Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State, or an SEC school, we are pretty darn happy. Therefore, just like the way we recruit for basketball, our coaches need to find players that are off of the big schools radar and would be a good fit at BC. In the last decade, it has worked pretty well for us, but we still need to take the next step and win a conference championship. Since Jags took over, we have already read a lot more articles of BC making the short list for a recruit sought after by major SEC, Big 12, or Big Ten schools. This is kinda new for us because the list of top recruits during the Tom O'Brien era was short. Brian Toal was the biggest name recruit we had and I don't think BC ever would've gotten him had his older brother, Greg, not played for the Eagles. The recruiting at BC is something we'll watch very closely the next couple of years because during the Tom O'Brien era, we knew we probably wouldn't make any top 25 lists, but also knew that things would work out in the end.
What differences do you see under Jags after Ryan bolted? [ed. note: I'm dumb and typed "Ryan" when I meant to type "Obrien" Flag on the question. 10 word penalty on the Managing Editor] Hey, at least now you get DOUBLE your analysis on the transition from Ryan to Crane.
Brian: This year there has been much more of a reliance on the rushing attack. Last season, Jags would get offended at the question when asked why the Eagles weren't running the ball. He would claim that the short outs and screens to Callendar/Whitworth were just as effective as running the ball. Plus why would you run the ball when you had a weapon like Matt Ryan's arm? This year, we have been relying much more on delayed draws and counters, splitting the workload between our freshmen running backs Montel Harris and Josh Haden. We'll spread the ball around much more in the rushing game, also including Crane and our fullback (was McClusky before his season ending injury). Through 9 games, we have nearly eclipsed our total rushing yards from all of last season (14 games).
NOTE: let's keep brawltalk confined to the "Incident in the Union" Article.
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I don't know if I'm blinded by the kool-aid, but on their blog, they said...
“Boston College has a better team minus two positions … quarterback and kicker”
……. Is that hilarious to anyone else? Anyone?
Pbysh, they're talking about last year
And I disagree, as the secondary got weaker, although has been very much a pleasant surprise this year for us. They were not insulting FSU. I would, however, take BC’s DT’s and LB’s over FSU.
I think they were trying to play good cop- bad cop.
It seems that Jeff is overly optimistic and Brian is slightly pessimistic… at least in that update.
by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
last year BC vs. BC, not BC vs. FSU
at least that’s what I thought.
why yes yes it is. I dont think they have any position better than us and that is including the two DT they have. I think these guys just sound like some stuck up northerns. But I wount hold that agenst them.
Nah...
You gotta give them the DT matchup. We will be absolutely ballin’ at that position in a few years, but their 2 guys are pretty good.
Everywhere else on the field, though, I just feel we’re much better than them. I don’t really think it’s close. Hell, the only reason Clemson isn’t on a 5 game losing streak is thanks to BC, and although I didn’t watch the game the numbers sure look like they got beat convincingly. And Clemson is in disarray right now. We beat them by 2 touchdowns, and it should have been 3 if we hadn’t muffed the punt at our 5.
The way I look at it, we are much better than last year, and they aren’t as good. The only thing that kept them in last year’s game was Matt Ryan slinging the ball up and down the field. If Crane can do that they deserve to win, but I don’t think that’ll happen. I do think we will not be able to run as consistently as we have and Ponder might need to put up some yards, but I keep thinking that every game and we keep running on all the vaunted run defense with ease (Miami, VT, Clemson). I think Jimbo has them figured out.
I guess we’ll see Saturday who’s right.
They have:
DT, TE, OL,
We have
QB, RB, WR, LB, DB, DE
At least in my eyes…
by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2008 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, the proverbial TE
Being a FSU fan I sometimes forget that position exists :p
I think I’d take our OL over theirs, though. Well, that’s a tough one. Maybe not. I must admit I haven’t watched very many of their games.
LB is a toss-up at best, IMO
I’m willing to put that in the either category, and we barely get the OL. I think individually our guys might be better, and FSU’s might be better as a unit.
Our starting DE’s are gone, so I agree with you there about the FSU advantage.
Ponder doesn’t scare me, but Crane does (both in a bad way). Not trying to say anything bad about Ponder, just that I don’t expect either of these guys to be calling signals on Sundays.
I strongly disagree that LB is a tossup and really doubt that any of BC’s starters would get significant playing time on the Noles squad (Now that Toal is out).
I’m surprised that you doubt your line. While I’ve been wondering why people think they are huge (not much bigger than most major college lines), they looked decent in some games. I love our OLine’s run blocking, but they are suspect in pass protection at best.
Ponder is smart enough to be an NFL backup, but I agree that he’s not a first round prospect that scouts drool over.
by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2008 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Uh, no.
“I strongly disagree that LB is a tossup and really doubt that any of BC’s starters would get significant playing time on the Noles squad”
Herzlich would start anywhere.
Seriously doubt that.
We will see. He might be good, but I don’t think he is better than Watson or Verdell. At least from what I’ve seen of BC.
You seriously don't think
A guy on the Butkus and Lott short list wouldn’t get any time?
I mean…seriously?
I can't seem to find Watson or Verdell
Maybe you can help me find them? I can show you where Herzy is. He’s the one leading in votes at the top.
I love sterotypes!
Should I assume all FSU fans aren’t smart enough to get into better schools?
Of course not. I’ll hope you won’t make the assumption that because a pair of Eagle bloggers like their team that they’re stuck-up Northerners.
I dont call you stuck up northerners because you like your team and no I didnt go to college. I am prob the dumbest FSU fan there is but I can live with my choises. Hell, Im going to be pulling for you guys next week. The reason I said what I said was because the 2 guys that did the ??? came off that way to me. They say the ND game didnt mean anything I feel thats a lie. Thats a big game because it makes the ACC look better and because its ND, maybe not the ND of old but its still ND.
To me, I love the BC/ND rivalry
The only thing bad about beating ND for the sixth consecutive time is I’m able to use my “gimmie 5! (slap hands)…in a row!” line with my ND friends. While it meant absolutely nothing in the ACC race, which is what most BC fans are most interested in now, it was personally very important to many a BC fan. Brian and Jeff are with about 40% of the fan base that doesn’t care that much about ND. I’m in the slight (in my eyes, at least) majority that feels the Catholic/Irish rivalry game is an important one, and the one game a year I want most to win.
FWIW
My take on the game is that last season, Weatherford has arguably his best game ever. Just had a terrific game, made great throws and smart decisions in the rain. While mobile QB’s have hurt us, and Ponder will certainly get some yardage on the ground, I get the feeling that the Eagles will force Ponder to beat us with his arm. Our run D is pretty darn solid as I’m sure you’ll find out.
My concern as a BC fan is that we will not be able to pass at all on the ‘Noles, and that it will come down to our ability to work at (read: stay with) the run. If we can bang it out on the ground and make it a grind-it-out sort of contest, I think my Eagles can stand a chance at pulling the upset. If the ’Noles are successful in making BC a one-dimensional team and forcing Crane’s arm to beat FSU, I think y’all are going to come away with more than your fair share of INT’s and a convincing win.
Good luck, and here’s to a good hard fought game with no injuries!
Mike, good luck to you as well.
If you want a team that tried to take away the run, see : VT. It took a while, but Ponder finally did beat them with his arm.
by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2008 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I dont know how fast BC is on D but can they match up with FSU. I realy dont know. All I read is about BC 2 DT what about the rest of the D
Desman
The LB’s are very good, lead by Butkus/Lott candidate Mark Herzlich, who has recently been getting a ton of press. He’s a 6’4", 250 lb that moves. You’ll see him a lot on Saturday night.
The real question heading into the year was the BC secondary. We have two young ones out there, a true frosh in Donnie Fletcher, and a true soph in Deleon Gause that have both played surprisingly well save the UNC game (where both played fairly poorly, in no small due to the Wes Davis (SS) injury).
Paul Anderson, our FS who has taken a beating at the hands of many a BC fan throughout his career has come out of nowhere and changed from a glaring liability to a solid performer (co-ACC D-POW last week).
The match-up you want to be on the lookout for is the WR’s ability to find holes in the zones and Ponder’s ability to have time (and have the accuracy) to get it there, JMHO.
I think this can definitely be a closer game than what “kool-aid drinkers” may expect. BC is usually a very fundamentally sound team and although their QB has a staggering number of INT (encoutaging for us) they usually are very stong up front.
This year is not an exception and I think they are going to apply a lot of pressure to Ponder. Hopefully, we can run some RB screens and WR bubble screens to negate this.
Like the BC poster mentioned, I think Mickey is going to flood the box and force the QB to beat us, which should bode well for us considering his propensity for throwing INTs.
I can see BC sticking to the run and maybe running a couple of trick plays to counteract our aggresiveness on defense, but after our defense settles down it will be tough for them.
Some interesting comments to say the least...
are being made on the BC Interruption site one in particular related to your response about the incident. Seeing as FSU has been very proactive this year in their zero tolerance stance i dont think its justified at all.
And also how does BC have a way better chance of getting to Tampa than us?
Nor do i think your answers had any negative connotations suggesting that we take BC for granted. I dont think FSU takes anyone for granted at this point. In reality, up until probably 2002 I dont think I considered anyone in the ACC a serious rival of ours. It was always Florida and Miami no questions asked. Times have changed and my hatred for ACC teams all stem from our considerable lack of success against them in the recent years and inablity to dominate as compared to our glory years in the 90s..Wake, Clemson etc.
I responded over there.
Mike,
since FSU has suspended players in big games this year for missing classes, I think your comments are inaccurate at best. FSU will wait for the facts to come out and you can bet that these guys will be gone if they did in fact commit serious crimes.
Jeff,
FSU has 2 ACC games remaining and they will be favored in both.
BC has 3 ACC games remaining and they will be underdogs in 2 of the 3.
We can’t look at every team in the division as a serious rival. BC beat us in ’06, our worst season in 30 years. Florida State went into BC and beat their best team since when, the Flutie days?
Everyone gets up to play FSU since that’s the team they grew up idolizing. It’s tough for FSU to get up for every team on their slate.
that settles that.
I think he’s under the impression we went 11-1 in 2006. Someone needs to remind him just how bad we were.
Is there really going to be an excuse
for any / all losses you guys have ever had? You guys trumped out the all-black “Unconquered” uni’s vs. BC thinking you would just roll over the Eagles and has your hats handed to you for the first time in the history of the program at home by an ACC team. Maybe just give the Eagles their due instead of making excuses for it.
I have loads of respect for the FSU program, it’s history, coaches, etc. I think as Eagles fans we’re all just taken aback by the apparent blatant lack of respect being shown our way. Only one way to win it, I guess.
“…your hats handed to you for the first time in the history of the program at home by an ACC team.”
1) We lost to NC State at home in 2005
2) We lost to Clemson at home earlier in 2006
Anyhow. We’re not making excuses for the loss. You guys won that day. Good for you. If you take a step back, though, that was our worst team in the last 30 years, we were horribly coached in offense and a complete mess. We got shutout by Wake Forest 30-0 that year, we lost to a 3-9 NC State team. And despite all that, we still outgained you in that game and the difference in the game was an AWFUL interception that got run back for a TD, thrown by our horribly coached quarterback who is now benched as a fifth year senior.
I’m really not trying to belittle your win as every effing program in the ACC holds a special place in their heart for their first victory against us, but I’m just making the point we really couldn’t care less about that win since that year was an abomination. After that, Jimbo Fisher and Rick Trickett were brought in and our offense is a completely different animal.
Really?
I thought I remembered there being much pageantry with the “unconquered” jerseys as both the FSU team had never been defeated at home by an ACC opponent and the Seminole Tribe remains “unconquered”….no?
If not, the media was told that and ran with it, lol.
No,
Losses at Home
2001
NC State 34-28
Miami 49-27
2002
Notre Dame 34-24
2003
Miami 22-14
2004
Florida 20-13
2005
NC State 20-15
2006
Clemson 27-20
BC 24-19
Wake 30-0
Florida 21-14
2007
Miami 37-29
The Unconquered thing is all about the Seminole Tribe of Florida never surrending to the US Gov’t
by Bud Elliott on Nov 14, 2008 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
BC is Better than FSU minus 2 positions
I stand by this. I am not saying that BC is better than FSU at every position other than place kicker and QB, but if you take out those two positions and then look at the rest of both teams, I give BC the advantage and I stand by that position.
FSU has a gigantic advatage at QB, and a far far far greater advantage at the place kicker position.
If FSU beats BC by more than two scores Saturday night I will eat my words. But these two positions, expecially QB are pretty important so if my statement is wrong, why isn’t FSU’s record better? Why haven’t they won the games they have more easily?
Welcome BC Fans
First, thanks for coming by. It’s nice to have some opposing fans on the board.
My take at the positions is certainly different however. For instance:
WR: FSU
RB: FSU
O Line: BC (Barely?)
Defense: Complete Wash
Oh and quick question:
How’s your return team? Short of last week against Clemson, KR and PR coverage has been a glaring hole for the Noles thus far. ,
Put Gano on Boston College and BC would be 8-1. Get BC a better QB and they could be 9-0. I’m not saying that BC has 21 starters that are better than FSU’s at the same position. I’m saying BC is two players away from being the favorite to win the ACC this year.
Ah, Okay.
I can buy that if they had Matt Ryan and the best kicker in the nation, that they’d be the ACC favorite, maybe. I just feel they’re very lucky to be where they are at this point, being out gained and outscored in league play.
Re: Ah, Okay.
FSUncensored – how are the Eagles lucky to be where we are? We have been outgained, yes, and our ACC record reflects that – 2-3. Despite the poor ACC record to date, we are still in the thick of the race.
by bcinterruption on Nov 13, 2008 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
From my perspective
I see a team that is 2-3 in the ACC, but that has exceeded 300 yards of offense only once, and had been on the road only twice. I see a team that has less than 4.5 yards per play in 4 of 5 ACC games. Basically, BC can’t score, except for the NC State game. that I think they should be 1-4.
I also don’t see most considering BC as a serious contender in the Atlantic. I don’t think they are.
They are going to be underdogs in 2 of their final 3 games, even if they beat FSU and Wake loses. I’d give BC about an 8% chance to win the division and I do not think that qualifies them as “in the thick of the race.” They aren’t even mentioned in most discussions that I’ve read.
oh, oh, can I play this game too?
Here: “put Colt McCoy in FSU, we’re unbeaten this season”
Hey, wasn’t that fun?
I know I’m coming off as a huge jerk right now, but I want to make it clear I really, really, respect the BC program. Hell, I considered going there coming out of high school. I just think that this year your team is really not very good at all. There’s no really nice way of saying that but it is what I think. I guess we will see Saturday.
Remember the time Bobby Boucher showed up at half-time and the Mud-Dawgs won the Bourbon Bowl?
What the hell kind of argument is this? You can’t speculate how good your team is based on missing pieces. If you want to talk up your team, do it on your own board. We only serve one flavor of Kool-Aid here.
"Remember the time Bobby Boucher showed up at half-time and the Mud-Dawgs won the Bourbon Bowl?"
LMAO
Very well done, sir.

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