BC- FSU 2h GameThread
by Bud Elliott on Nov 15, 2008 9:43 PM EST
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Basketball won 59-57. BC is up 14-10 at the half.
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1st half stats (BC - 1st column)
First Downs 9 7
Passing 5 3
Rushing 3 2
Penalty 1 2
Third Down Efficiency 6-9 0-5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fourth Down Efficiency 0-0 0-0
TOTAL NET YARDS 148 106
Total Plays 34 27
Average Gain Per Play 4.4 3.9
NET YARDS RUSHING 77 4 !!!!!!!!!!
Rushes 18 14
Average Per Rush 4.3 0.3
NET YARDS PASSING 71 102
Completions-Attempts 10-16 8-13
Yards Per Pass Play 4.4 7.8
Times Sacked 1 1
Yards Lost to Sacks 11 9
Had Intercepted 0 2
PUNTS 3 2
Average Punt 26.3 31.5
PENALTIES 6 2
Penalty Yards 41 13 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
1st half obs
1) Very frustrating half to watch — I was just pissed the whole way through
2) My TV and computer are in different rooms so sorry if i repeat some stuff you’ve already said
3) 36 blew their first big run — for some reason he chased the reverse guy — very poor discipline
4) I forgot what it was like to have the other team convert on third down.
5) Their QB has made some ungodly throws — he can’t keep it up — we will get an INT chance or 2 or 3 off tipped balls vs. our zone
6) They’re giving us the dink and dunk stuff underneath — Ponder needs to take it, but he’s got to GET RID OF THE BALL QUICKER
7) Ponder clearly lost his poise because of the INTs – it will be a test of Jimbo’s coaching to see if he can pull him together
My thoughts
Crane has made some INSANE throws in the first half. He will not make that many of those in the 2nd half.
We will see more QB rushing in the 2nd half.
We are not blocking their DT’s at all, and that’s an obvious problem.
BC will not do as well passing, but we need to stop the running game.
Glad our BBALL
team can only win by 3 over JU.
My thoughts on the first half (for what they are worth)
We need to run. I dont know how or where, but we have to. If it’s QB draws, then so be it. They are playing on their heels and getting away with it because of our poor run-blocking.
Our defense has to read the routes better. We got lost on man coverages, Mangum bit on a juke move, and they are sitting right behind out LB’s in zone. This will probably be fixed at half.
Our DL needs to get their hands up to deflect these balls.
Maybe
but most teams that are deemed ‘aggresive’ are attacked with mis-direction and end arounds. I don’t know how to fix this other than to say not to take your first step toward the first move (but then you can get beat if they start doing that. Notice how when they give it to their first move, we stop them).
We just lack variety.
For years mickey had such a talent advantage that he was able to say “just go execute.”
This is a VERY talented defense with 6+ guys who will play in the NFL in the starting lineup alone. 5 Seniors 6 Juniors. No excuses for Mickey’s D allowing 150 first half yards. None. Bad job of coaching by him for this season. 3rd down defense is great, but we have been gashed on 1st and 2nd down as well this year.
2nd half adjustments
-No more all out blitzes on Mass protect
-I’d like to see more of the 4 DE formation on passing downs
-Please throw it to Carr deep…just once
-More bubble screens
-More cut blocking from the OL. Get those big boys on the ground
-More plays for DVo
Flips it to ANTONE underneath, who jukes a guy, Antone for 15
by Bud Elliott on Nov 15, 2008 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'm following the box score online so I don't need the play-by-play
if you just wanted to comment on noteworthy plays that would be fine
2nd down is a Pass Interference, pretty good coverage. HUGE 3-10 coming from FSU 32
by Bud Elliott on Nov 15, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
We don't time our 7 MAN BLITZ very well. BC runs a draw. BC going for 4th.
by Bud Elliott on Nov 15, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
We AGAIN tried to big blitz it and were offisdes and BC picked up the 1st down
by Bud Elliott on Nov 15, 2008 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I am DONE with Mickey Andrews and if FSU doesn't let JIMBO clean sweep the defensive side of the ball, he should leave for Auburn
by Bud Elliott on Nov 15, 2008 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think there's at least a chance Jimbo does it this offseason
at least I’m hoping
by andy_wooster on Nov 15, 2008 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Low chance of victory, imo, for these reasons ...
1) Our defense is already tired — quality of tackling is deteriorating
2) Ponder is not playing with confidence — INT’s REALLY seem to affect him.
3) We are getting outhusted.
Observation: We have enough receivers to cover for those who are out, but I think this week got to our team. We look out of synch.
Agreed on all 3.
Defense getting badly outcoached.
They are dominating the middle of the LOS
by Bud Elliott on Nov 15, 2008 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
I was wondering about this earlier.
What defensive assistants out there have Jimbo connections? I’m afraid if they’re friends of Jimbo then they are also friends of Saban and we might have a tough time getting them here.
It would be someone with 3-4 experience,
All defensive coaches would be gone, except possible Odell. We would use Jacobbi and McAllister as 3-4 Ends in a hybrid package.
by Bud Elliott on Nov 15, 2008 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Odell is the only coach I want to keep.
If we could get Colzie as DB coach or promote T-Buck, I think they might succeed.
As I type this, Mickey is putting Roosevelt Lawson in the game on a HUGE third down. Maybe sit the next few out, Champ.
Damn the playcalling
Why would you call a pass when you are getting 10 yards a pop on the ground?
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:05 PM EST reply actions
Why pass there?
Ponder’s throws look like shit tonight, but they finally got some traction on the ground. Why not keep that up?
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
After watching the end of the first half...
I think Jeff has returned for homecoming and he might have had something to do with it.
What the fuck is wrong with Nicholson?
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Damn the world
No damn heart, no damn smarts, no damn anything.
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:13 PM EST reply actions
No shit
Where’s the adjustment? Bueller?
This is embarrassing.
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
This is pathetic
We knew Wake lost earlier in the day, so winning out = Tampa. And this is how they show up? Christian Ponder plays like crap, the D doesn’t show up. We won’t get the ball back at this rate
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:16 PM EST reply actions
Actually
Let them score here. Seriously. We’ll get the ball back, and then our quarterback will lead a drive…oh wait.
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair to Ponder
It’s hard to succeed when:
1) There’s a DT on you immediately after the snap.
2) Your slot receivers are getting knocked down by linebackers 10 yards down field every play.
3) Your only deep threat prefers jogging to running and will only try if he has a gimme TD.
It doesn't help that
he threw that end-zone INT like a rainbow. That was a bad throw.
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well, at least the Bears could win tomorrow
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:20 PM EST reply actions
The 'noles haven't looked this flat over the course of a game since the WF loss....
There is nothing there on either side of the ball. It’s very discouraging and I believe much of this is a by-product of the mid-week brawl.
If we beat Maryland
We’re 8-4 (I’m assuming the Gators administer a beatdown). This loss deflates everything we’ve accomplished thus far.
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:25 PM EST reply actions
At least Nicholson is a senior
I’m not a huge reactionary, but that move should be cut-worthy. Let him stay on scholarship and finish his degree, but de-activate him for the final 3 games. Send a damn message. A hands-off approach worked when you had players who were self-motivators and leaders. Now, with this hapless bunch? Send a signal that you don’t tolerate stupidity.
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
And another thing.
Who the heck schedules these games?
BC down here in November? Sure am glad they got to experience Tallahassee weather. I’m sure we’ll get to play up there in August next season, right?
Screw you, ACC.
Say what you will about Ponder
But Jarrett Lee is a lot worse
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Just miserable
These bastards can’t even lose with class. Parker = douche
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions
Have a good night everyone
Hope your various NFL teams win tomorrow (as long as it isn’t Green Bay)
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 15, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions
Bye Bye Bowden
Time to go-there is no discipline.
Pathetic showing of our offense and defense. Goes to show the $##$# distractions this week had some effect on the team. Why did D’vo not get more snaps? Where was our pass rush? And the personal foul on us that sealed the game for BC…W.T.F! Seriously, this team needs a coach, a leader, someone, to come in there and administer some punishment and discipline for these actions and our team’s attitude. Parker’s actions at the end of the game go to prove the way this season has been.
We all have been blinded by the 7 wins this season to think that FSU is back, but we are far from it. Talent wise, I believe we are there. Attitude wise, this team needs discipline, and Bowden is not the answer.
by thirdcoastnole on Nov 15, 2008 11:38 PM EST reply actions
Amen
I could not have said it better. Times have changed and Bowden is too old. These kids now days need a corrections officer not a father figure.
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