Just a bit panicked?

by FSUwac87 on Nov 17, 2008 11:53 AM EST Comment 10 comments

Let me see if I have this straight about the assertions made after the BC debacle:

Bobby is hurting this team in lack of coaching and no longer relavent in recruiting?

Defensive coaching by Andrews, Allen & Amato poor in preparation and execution?

Worried that Jimbo will bail out due to perceived staff chaos?

Bobby is hurting this team in lack of coaching and no longer relavent in recruiting?

This team was a shipwreck after the JB departure, wholesale changes were made in the offensive, strength and recruiting coaches. Have those moves paid off? If you asked me last Monday, answer is that we are making great strides in all phases. Recruiting is paying off judging by the current Frosh. Stroud is pushing these guys to a higher level in strength and conditioning. Offense is coming on big time in spite of young undersized O line struggles. Do we really want to CAN BB, then deal with the premature aftershock staff upheaval and start the process all over again?

Defensive coaching by Andrews, Allen & Amato poor in preparation and execution?

This scheme is outdated and has always put too much pressure on man coverage. Why the refusal or inability to run Zone when confronted with the Ga Tech and BC's? Undisciplined with the "hair on fire" can be exciting to watch, but has proven pretty reckless in results. Defensive preparation and execution falls back to poor coaching. Amato is supposed to bring discipline and organization? How does Jody Allen keep his job? Mickey has yet to successfully address scheme to compensate for defensive weak spots (undersized D Tackles and poor technique of corners). Could often overrated D possibly be the biggest problem for this team? Watch how UM handles the same Ga Tech running game on Saturday.

Worried that Jimbo will bail out due to perceived staff chaos?

Jimbo strikes me as a smarter than the average bear kind of guy. He has the power and influence to make this go his way. The Mantra on the BB Spring Golf Tour was "Be Patient" as we may struggle this year, but just wait, as great stuff is coming! Seems they anticpated this struggle? Doesn't it make sense that the handoff process is planned out and mostly complete? BB will take the heat now and Jimbo should emerge with high hopes intact.

Saturday night sure was awful, but if they somehow pull off the upset at Maryland, how will you feel next Monday? Go back to the Monday after the Wake Forest Loss, would a 9-4 record after a Bowl Win really have seemed that disappointing?

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Do we really want to CAN BB, then deal with the premature aftershock staff upheaval and start the process all over again?

I really don’t think it would cause a problem. It would help. The defensive coaches are 100% gone once Jimbo take over, so either it happens this offseason or the next. Let’s do it now so we can send the message that we are committed to no longer being a laughing stock.

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 17, 2008 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I didn’t mean to be snotty with that. There are so many coaches who would love to coach up our players, and yet we have guys who just aren’t cutting it anymore.

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 17, 2008 6:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I just hope that the coachs we do get at the time when we go get them we can aford them. also I hope the players can ajust to there style

by Desman on Nov 17, 2008 7:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

laughing stock?

Michigan, Notre Dame, UCLA, Tennessee, Texas A & M, Syracuse Those are funny stories. 7-6 is not acceptable, but not a disaster!!!

by wolffbird7 on Nov 17, 2008 8:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Good is the enemy of great.

When did 7-6 become acceptable?

When did we start comparing ourselves to programs like ND (no bowl wins in 15 years), Tennessee (a few nice seasons, but clearly the 5th or 6th best program in the SEC), Texas A&M or Syracuse.

Those programs are not in our league and they are not comparable.

Michigan did the whole regime change. They are in full scale rebuilding mode. We can’t even acknowledge as a University that something is wrong.

Great facilities, huge talent base to recruit, rock bottom admission standards. 7-6 for a 3rd consecutive year is a disaster and it is no surprise that the unit under the control of the last of Bowden’s guys is the unit that is slacking. He lacks the ability to evaluate coaching talent at this point, and the administration either lacks the ability to evaluate him or lacks the bravado to act.

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 17, 2008 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Well said

“Great facilities, huge talent base to recruit, rock bottom admission standards. 7-6 for a 3rd consecutive year is a disaster…”

Never be happy with mediocrity, especially when we can do so much better.

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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 22, 2008 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good to Great

I agree, good is the enemy of great. I don’t particularly want to go the way Michigan is going though.

by FSUvaFan on Nov 17, 2008 9:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Beating Maryland

Beating Maryland convincingly if Maryland uses similar schemes on offense as BC is the only way I will feel good about the way the defense is going as far as Mickey’s ability to make adjustments and grow.

You just know a secondary is bad when everytime the ball is in the air you are holding your breath and hoping that it is poorly thrown. I remember that the only reason I thought we were close to Kentucky last year in the bowl game was that a couple of receivers were overthrown… I sure have lost confidence that there will be a DB there to swat it away without fouling or getting away with a foul. I know nothing about coaching DB’s; it would be interesting to have an in dept look at what could be going wrong with our secondary besides a general “bad coaching”.

by FSUvaFan on Nov 17, 2008 10:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Because we’re not at practice, I can’t be sure. I am sure that we don’t have a DB’s coach (Mickey coaches DB’s). We bring in talented kids, and they do not develop good technique. Maryland is running WCO concepts this year and even if they do ZR for this week, it’s not a true representative sample.

As for Michigan, we don’t have to do that. We’re not having a massive overhaul of an offense. Usually you see a long transition going from spread to anything, or from anything to spread (see also, Arkansas).

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 17, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

we dont have a long transition going to the spread because isnt that mosty what FSU has used. I know we did a lot of pro set but I always though FSU palying out of shotgun for the most part. We use to run a draw, screens and throw all day to who ever we wanted. Its kinda the same thing now. the only thing that realy has changed for us is the new clock rules so we have to get plays in faster.

by Desman on Nov 18, 2008 12:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs