Success Rates... Florida State... Not Great (More Andrews concerns, film review, & other daily notes)

The most comprehensive breakdown of the Seminoles anywhere on the net... inside.

Rich at Chantrant has a cool story on a Myron Rolle radio interview.

First, listen to the coaches' press conferences (free):

Mickey Andrews Podcast 11.17 - Free

Of particular concern is this quote from Mickey:

Look at the two touchdowns and they had a pattern on both of them. On the first one there was a 47yard run on the first play, we had a penalty to keep drive alive, a 15yard penalty, so out of that 69-yard drive, only seven were actually earned because we should have made the tackle at the line of scrimmage and didn't. So plays like that, we just need to step up there and make the tackle and line up and play again and you don't know what is going to happen over the course of the game, you can't take plays back, but at the same time you see areas where you just need to dependent and go do your job and do it better than anybody on the field.  On the other touchdown, it was a seven-play, 71yard drive. There was a 57yard pass and another interference penalty, it was only four-yards but it gave them a first down I think at the two (yard line) and then we didn't make a tackle. We had three guys that could have made the tackle, one guy knocked two of them off and he didn't make the tackle. Just go do your job and do it better than anybody on the field. If we had just done that we would have won the football game.

Not taking personal responsibility for the failures of your defense?  Failing to understand what went wrong?  Blaming the players?  Resorting to cheap motivational tactics rather than admitting that you didn't call your best game? 

What's more?  Gene Williams (DotCom), of Warchant.com asks in his blog whether it's time to shake up the defensive coaching staff! !  Never thought I'd see that!

Jimbo Fisher Podcast 11.17 - Free

On the interception in the end zone:

When the receiver had inside leverage, it's his job to press the DB.  The throw was there if we run that right [Carr].  Instead, we don't press it, the DB squeezed the receiver, and then we're out of position. 

This is what I thought.  Carr, who played a bad game, didn't run the route correctly.

Christian Ponder Podcast 11.17 - Free

 

No individual film breakdown this week.  Instead, I'll comment on things I saw and will take questions on other things. 

 

Leverage

I We discussed the concept of leverage here last week.  Typically, the idea is to stay out of 2-8+ and 3-5+,  or keep the opposition in those downs. 

Boston College ran 48 plays on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down.  21 were passing downs.  27 were non passing downs.  That's a 56% LEVERAGE PERFORMANCE by the BC offense (or conversely, a 44% LEVERAGE rate by the defense).  That's exceptional performance by BC's.  Another key measurement is the % of passing downs out of total downs faced.  BC faced 26% passing downs (21 of 81).  That is excellent... for Boston College.  The very best offenses face 20% passing downs.  BC's offense is horrible, yet they were able to face only 26% passing downs.  The FSU defense did not play very well.  

Florida State ran 29 2nd/ 3rd/ 4th down plays.  Of those, 19 were passing downs and 10 were non-passing downs, which is good for a 33% leverage rate.  If you read the linked explanation, you'll realize that's terrible.  Teams do not (and should not) expect to regularly succeed on passing downs.  Florida State could not stay ahead of or even on schedule, and they paid dearly.  What were our total passing downs?  35% of FSU's 59 plays were passing downs.

BC achieved incredible leverage, but what did they do with that leverage?


Success Rates

I discussed success rates last week.

Boston College

As discussed above, BC faced 27 NPD's, 21 PD's, and 87 total downs.  Of those, they had success on 37 of the 81, or a 46% overall success rate.  The goal is to limit opponents under 40% success, with 44% being the true tipping point. 

BC's 1st downs

Harris, M rush over left tackle for 47 yards to the FS22, 1ST DOWN BC (Rolle, M). 1-10 at Bc31 1D 1
Harris, M rush up middle for 2 yards to the FS20 (Nicholson, D). 1-10 at Fs22 1D 0
Crane, C screen pass complete to Gunnell, R for 1 yard to the FS11 (Robinson, P.). 1-10 at Fs12 1D 0
Crane, C deep pass incomplete to Momah, I. 1-10 at Bc43 1D 0
Crane, C deep pass incomplete to Larmond, C. 1-10 at Fs45 1D 0
Crane, C middle pass complete to Robinson, B for 3 yards to the FS40 (Carter, T). 1-10 at Fs43 1D 0
Haden, J rush over right tackle for 8 yards to the BC46 (Watson, D;Jenije, O). 1-10 at Bc38 1D 1
Harris, M rush right for 3 yards to the BC31 (McClure, D). 1-10 at Bc28 1D 0
Harris, M rush left for loss of 1 yard to the BC39 (Carter, T). 1-10 at Bc40 1D 0
PENALTY BC false start (Castonzo, A) 5 yards to the BC47. 1-10 at Fs48 1D 0
Haden, J rush left for 1 yard to the BC20 (Mincey, J). 1-10 at Bc19 1D 0
Haden, J rush right for 4 yards to the BC40 (Watson, D;Nicholson, D). 1-10 at Bc36 1D 0
Crane, C sideline pass incomplete to Robinson, B, dropped pass. 1-10 at Bc47 1D 0
Crane, C rush up middle for no gain to the FS35, fumble forced by Verdell, T, fumble by Crane, C recovered by FS Thacker, B at FS34. 1-10 at Fs35 1D 0
Harris, M rush over left guard for 2 yards to the BC35 (Nicholson, D;Mincey, J). 1-10 at Bc33 1D 0
Harris, M rush over right tackle for loss of 1 yard to the FS46 (Nicholson, D). 1-10 at Fs45 1D 0
Robinson, B deep pass incomplete to Gunnell, R. 1-10 at Fs32 1D 0
Crane, C rush QX for 5 yards to the FS13 (Verdell, T). 1-10 at Fs18 1D 1
Haden, J rush left for loss of 2 yards to the BC27 (Watson, D;White, M.,). 1-10 at Bc29 1D 0
Harris, M rush up middle for 6 yards to the BC35 (Brown, E). 1-10 at Bc29 1D 1
Crane, C flag pass complete to Gunnell, R for 23 yards to the FS30, 1ST DOWN BC, out-of-bounds (McClure, D). 1-10 at Bc47 1D 1
Harris, M rush up middle for 13 yards to the FS17, 1ST DOWN BC (Thacker, B). 1-10 at Fs30 1D 1
Crane, C slant pass intercepted by McClure, D at the FS13, McClure, D return 0 yards to the FS13. 1-10 at Fs17 1D 0
Harris, M rush up middle for 3 yards to the BC23 (White, M.,). 1-10 at Bc20 1D 0
Harris, M rush up middle for 4 yards to the BC36 (White, M.,). 1-10 at Bc32 1D 0
Harris, M rush over left tackle for loss of 1 yard to the FS45 (Brown, E). 1-10 at Fs44 1D 0
Harris, M rush over left end for 6 yards to the FS24 (Verdell, T;Robinson, J). 1-10 at Fs30 1D 1
Harris, M rush over right tackle for 3 yards to the FS15 (Nicholson, D;Stewart, K). 1-10 at Fs18 1D 0
Crane, C sacked for loss of 9 yards to the BC38 (Moffett, N), fumble by Crane, C recovered by FS Brown, E at BC36, Brown, E for 5 yards to the BC31 (TEAM). 1-15 at Bc47 1D 0
Harris, M rush up middle for 6 yards to the FS1 (Watson, D). 1-G at Fs07 1D 1
Crane, C sideline pass incomplete to Robinson, B, QB hurry by Watson, D. 1-G at Fs06 1D 0
Crane, C middle pass incomplete to Anderson, L (Robinson, J). 1-G at Fs02 1D 0
Harris, M rush over right guard for 2 yards to the FS3 (Brown, E). 1-G at Fs05 1D 0

On a down specific basis, Boston College was successful on 8 of 33 1st Downs (26%), which is excellent first down defense by the Noles.  BC did a nice job of gaining at least some yards on 1st down, however, and we'll see that it paid off in later downs as they stayed behind, but somewhat close to schedule. 

 

BC's 2ND DOWNS

Haden, J rush over left end for loss of 1 yard to the BC45 (Mincey, J). Bc  2-2 at Bc46 NPD 0
Harris, M rush over left tackle for 5 yards to the FS5, 1ST DOWN BC (Nicholson, D). Bc  2-2 at Fs10 NPD 1
Harris, M rush over right guard for 2 yards to the BC37 (Thacker, B). Bc  2-4 at Bc35 NPD 0
Crane, C rush over left tackle for 6 yards to the FS18, 1ST DOWN BC (Watson, D). Bc  2-4 at Fs24 NPD 1
Harris, M rush over right guard for 4 yards to the FS9 (Thacker, B). Bc  2-5 at Fs13 NPD 1
Haden, J rush over left guard for 7 yards to the BC47, 1ST DOWN BC (Verdell, T). Bc  2-6 at Bc40 NPD 1
Crane, C rush right for 5 yards to the BC41. Bc  2-6 at Bc36 NPD 1
Crane, C middle pass complete to Anderson, L for 5 yards to the FS35. Bc  2-7 at Fs40 NPD 1
Gunnell, R rush ER for 3 yards to the BC34 (McClure, D). Bc  2-7 at Bc31 NPD 0
Crane, C rush left for 9 yards to the BC32, 1ST DOWN BC. Bc  2-7 at Bc23 NPD 1
PENALTY FS offside defense (Stewart, K) 5 yards to the FS10, NO PLAY. Bc  2-7 at Fs15 NPD 1
Harris, M rush up middle for loss of 1 yard to the FS2 (Moffett, N;Verdell, T). Bc  2-G at Fs01 NPD 0
Harris, M rush left for 2 yards to the FS0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 00:48. Bc  2-G at Fs02 NPD 1
Harris, M rush over right end for loss of 1 yard to the FS4 (Watson, D). Bc  2-G at Fs03 NPD 0
Gunnell, R rush EL for 8 yards to the FS49, out-of-bounds. Bc  2-10 at Bc43 PD 1
Haden, J rush over right tackle for loss of 1 yard to the FS46 (Watson, D). Bc  2-10 at Fs45 PD 0
Haden, J rush up middle for loss of 2 yards to the BC45 (Watson, D). Bc  2-10 at Bc47 PD 0
Crane, C middle pass incomplete to Gunnell, R. Bc  2-10 at Fs32 PD 0
Crane, C sideline pass complete to Jarvis, J for 7 yards to the BC46 (Robinson, P.). Bc  2-11 at Bc39 PD 1
PENALTY FS pass interference (Robinson, P.) 14 yards to the FS32 Bc  2-11 at Fs46 PD 1
Crane, C rush over right end for 10 yards to the FS35 (McNeil, K). Bc  2-11 at Fs45 PD 1
Crane, C slant pass complete to Jarvis, J for 10 yards to the BC37 (Robinson, P.). Bc  2-12 at Bc27 PD 1
PENALTY FS pass interference (Robinson, P.) 8 yards to the FS12 Bc  2-8 at Fs20 PD 1
Crane, C slant pass complete to Robinson, B for 20 yards to the FS45 Bc  2-8 at Bc35 PD 1
Harris, M rush left for loss of 3 yards to the FS14 (Thacker, B;Nicholson, D). Bc  2-9 at Fs11 PD 0
Crane, C deep pass incomplete to Robinson, B, QB hurry by McNeil, K. Bc  2-9 at Bc20 PD 0
Crane, C sideline pass incomplete to Robinson, B. Bc  2-G at Fs06 PD 0

BC found success on16 of 27 2nd downs.  Again, the goal here is under 40%.  BC succeeded 59% of the time.  The defense laid a huge egg here.  Specifically, BC succeeded in 7 of 13 2nd down passing situations (54%), and on 9 of 14 non-passing situations (64%).  NOTE: Those aren't times they threw or ran, they are passing situations (2nd and 8+), or non-passing situations (2nd and 7 or less).  Allowing 59% success on 2nd down is atrocious in its own right, but allowing 54% success in passing situations (situations where the defense is playing with a high amount of leverage) is ridiculous.  Teams can expect to succeed less than 30% of the time on passing downs, and against BC, we should have held them to something in the mid 20's%, not FIFTY FOUR PERCENT!!  There is no way that a solid gameplan and scheme, given our players, should allow something like that to an offense as bad as BC.

 

BC's 3rd/ & 4th Downs

Bc  3-1 at Fs09 NPD 1 Crane, C rush quarterback sneak for 2 yards to the FS7, 1ST DOWN BC.
Bc  3-1 at Bc41 NPD 1 Crane, C rush quarterback sneak for no gain to the BC41 (Moffett, N;Brown, E), PENALTY FS personal foul (Nicholson, D) 15 yards to the FS44, 1ST DOWN BC.
Bc  3-1 at Fs35 NPD 1 Harris, M rush over left guard for 5 yards to the FS30, 1ST DOWN BC (Mincey, J).
Bc  3-2 at Fs49 NPD 0 PENALTY BC false start (Anderson, L) 5 yards to the BC46.
Bc  3-2 at Fs35 NPD 0 Crane, C sideline pass incomplete to Gunnell, R (McNeil, K).
Bc  3-2 at Bc37 NPD 1 Crane, C screen pass complete to Haden, J for 57 yards to the FS6, 1ST DOWN BC (Robinson, J).
Bc  3-2 at Bc37 NPD 1 Crane, C crossing pass incomplete to Gunnell, R, PENALTY FS pass interference (Lawson, R) 10 yards to the BC47, 1ST DOWN BC, NO PLAY.
Bc  3-3 at Bc45 NPD 0 Crane, C screen pass complete to Gunnell, R for loss of 7 yards to the BC38 (Moffett, N).
Bc  3-4 at Bc34 NPD 1 Crane, C slant pass complete to Jarvis, J for 6 yards to the BC40, 1ST DOWN BC (McClure, D).
Bc  3-4 at Bc46 NPD 1 Crane, C sideline pass complete to Gunnell, R for 6 yards to the FS48, 1ST DOWN BC, out-of-bounds.
Bc  3-G at Fs02 NPD 0 Crane, C sideline pass incomplete to Anderson, L.
Bc  3-G at Fs04 NPD 0 Crane, C rush for loss of 9 yards to the FS13, fumble forced by Bradham, N., fumble by Crane, C recovered by BC Crane, C at FS13.
Bc  4-2 at Fs24 NPD 1 Harris, M rush over left tackle for 6 yards to the FS18, 1ST DOWN BC (Verdell, T), PENALTY FS offside defense declined.
Bc  3-10 at Fs32 PD 0 Harris, M rush over right guard for 8 yards to the FS24 (Nicholson, D;Brown, E).
Bc  3-11 at Fs46 PD 0 Crane, C post pass incomplete to Jarvis, J.
Bc  3-12 at Fs14 PD 1 Crane, C flag pass complete to Gunnell, R for 14 yards to the FS0, 1ST DOWN BC, TOUCHDOWN, clock 12:17.
Bc  3-12 at Bc41 PD 1 Haden, J rush up middle for 14 yards to the FS45, 1ST DOWN BC (McClure, D).
Bc  3-12 at Bc45 PD 1 Crane, C post pass complete to Robinson, B for 20 yards to the FS35, 1ST DOWN BC.
Bc  3-7 at Bc46 PD 0 PENALTY BC false start (Lapham, R) 5 yards to the BC41.
Bc  3-9 at Bc20 PD 1 Crane, C crossing pass complete to Jarvis, J for 16 yards to the BC36, 1ST DOWN BC (Rolle, M;Moffett, N).
Bc  3-G at Fs06 PD 1 Crane, C slant pass incomplete to Robinson, B, PENALTY FS pass interference (Carter, T) 4 yards to the FS2, 1ST DOWN BC, NO PLAY.

BC found success on13 of 20 3rd downs.  Again, the goal here is under 40%.  BC succeeded 65% of the time!!  The defense laid an even bigger egg here.  Specifically, BC succeeded in 5 of 8 3rd down passing situations (63%), and on 8 of 12 non-passing situations (66%).  NOTE: Those aren't times they threw or ran, they are passing situations (3rd and 5+), or non-passing situations (3rd and 4 or less).  Allowing 59% success on 3rd down is atrocious in its own right, but allowing 63% success in passing situations (situations where the defense is playing with a high amount of leverage) is ridiculous.  There is no way that a solid gameplan and scheme, given our players, should allow something like that to an offense as bad as BC.  Even in the 3 3rd down passing down situations where FSU "succeeded", one was a false start on BC (where they would pick up 3rd and 12 on the subsequent play), and another was a 3rd and 10 where they proceeded to gain 8 yards and pick up the remaining 2 on a 4th down run.

BC did a decent job of gaining at least some yards on 1st down, and proceeded to absolutely destroy FSU in 2nd and especially 3rd down.  While it is expected that they'll do a 'lil better than 44% in non-passing down and distance, 65% (17 of 26) is complete garbage. Further, in the situation that offers the greatest advantage to the defense  (passing down and distance), Boston college succeeded 57% of the time (12 of 21).

This was a schematic failure.  It was also a teaching failure, as some of our guys clearly have not received proper instruction on technique.  This coaching staff did not set these guys up for success, both during the season, and before this game.

 

Florida State

I discussed success rates last week.

As discussed above, FSU  faced 10 NPD's, 19 PD's, and 55 total downs.  Of those, they had success on 23 of the 55, or a 42% overall success rate.  The goal is to be above 44%, so we just missed.  Let's go deeper.

FSU's 1st Down's

Fs  1-10 at Fs11 1D 1 Ponder, C middle pass complete to Piurowski, C for 6 yards to the FS17 (Herzlich, M).
Fs  1-10 at Fs20 1D 1 Smith, A rush left for 5 yards to the FS25 (Davis, W;McLaughlin, M).
Fs  1-10 at Bc47 1D 1 Ponder, C screen pass complete to Thomas, J. for 19 yards to the BC28, 1ST DOWN FS (Bowman, M).
Fs  1-10 at Bc28 1D 1 Owens, R rush reverse for 13 yards to the BC15, 1ST DOWN FS (Rollins, R;Davis, W).
Fs  1-10 at Bc15 1D 0 Thomas, J. rush left for loss of 3 yards to the BC18 (McLaughlin, M).
Fs  1-10 at Fs43 1D 0 Thomas, J. rush over right guard for no gain to the FS43 (Rossi, N;Newman, B).
Fs  1-10 at Bc43 1D 0 Thomas, J. rush over right end for 1 yard to the BC42 (Herzlich, M).
Fs  1-G at Bc06 1D 0 Sims, M rush right for 2 yards to the BC4 (Francois, R).
Fs  1-10 at Bc31 1D 0 Ponder, C rush for loss of 6 yards to the BC37.
Fs  1-10 at Fs49 1D 1 Ponder, C BS pass complete to Parker, P for 6 yards to the BC45 (McLaughlin, M).
Fs  1-10 at Bc32 1D 0 Smith, A rush over right end for 2 yards to the BC30 (Davis, W).
Fs  1-10 at Bc18 1D 0 Ponder, C sacked for loss of 9 yards to the BC27 (Bowman, M).
Fs  1-10 at Fs23 1D 1 Ponder, C sideline pass complete to Parker, P for 15 yards to the FS38, 1ST DOWN FS (Fletcher, D).
Fs  1-10 at Fs38 1D 1 Ponder, C sideline pass complete to Parker, P for 8 yards to the FS46, out-of-bounds.
Fs  1-10 at Bc33 1D 0 Ponder, C rush left for 1 yard to the BC32 (McLaughlin, M).
Fs  1-10 at Fs40 1D 1 Ponder, C screen pass incomplete to Sims, M, PENALTY BC pass interference (Herzlich, M) 10 yards to the 50 yardline, 1ST DOWN FS, NO PLAY.
Fs  1-10 at Fs50 1D 1 Ponder, C sideline pass complete to Parker, P for 12 yards to the BC38, 1ST DOWN FS (LeGrande, D;Gause, D).
Fs  1-10 at Bc38 1D 0 Owens, R rush ER for loss of 3 yards to the BC41 (Herzlich, M).
Fs  1-10 at Fs46 1D 0 Ponder, C sideline pass incomplete to Sims, M.
Fs  1-10 at Bc29 1D 1 Parker, P deep pass complete to Carr, G for 29 yards to the BC0, 1ST DOWN FS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 14:51.
Fs  1-10 at Fs13 1D 1 Ponder, C screen pass complete to Thomas, J. for 12 yards to the FS25, 1ST DOWN FS (Davis, W).
Fs  1-10 at Fs25 1D 0 Ponder, C sideline pass incomplete to Carr, G.
Fs  1-10 at Fs36 1D 1 Smith, A rush TR for 7 yards to the FS43 (Herzlich, M).
Fs  1-10 at Fs48 1D 1 Smith, A rush TL for 12 yards to the BC40, 1ST DOWN FS (McLaughlin, M;Francois, R).
Fs  1-10 at Bc40 1D 1 Ponder, C rush right for 12 yards to the BC28, 1ST DOWN FS, out-of-bounds (Bowman, M).
Fs  1-10 at Bc28 1D 0 Ponder, C deep pass intercepted by Gause, D at the BC0, Gause, D return 0 yards to the BC0, touchback, PENALTY FS holding declined.

On a down specific basis, Florida State was successful on 14 of 26 1st Downs (54%), which is excellent.  Interestingly, it seemed like FSU either had a big gain or a loss of yards on 1st down, something I discussed in [insert link discussing concerns over boom or bust running game] . 

 

FSU's 2nd Downs

Fs  2-2 at Fs46 NPD 0 Smith, A rush over right guard for loss of 1 yard to the FS45 (Akins, K).
Fs  2-3 at Fs43 NPD 1 Smith, A rush left for 5 yards to the FS48, 1ST DOWN FS (Francois, R).
Fs  2-4 at Fs17 NPD 0 Ponder, C sideline pass incomplete to Carr, G (Herzlich, M).
Fs  2-4 at Bc45 NPD 0 Smith, A rush right for loss of 1 yard to the BC46 (Francois, R).
Fs  2-5 at Fs25 NPD 0 Smith, A rush over right guard for loss of 2 yards to the FS23 (Brace, R).
Fs  2-8 at Bc30 NPD 1 Ponder, C rush QX for 7 yards to the BC23 (McLaughlin, M;Ramella, J).
Fs  2-G at Bc04 NPD 1 Ponder, C rush QX for 4 yards to the BC0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 13:06.
Fs  2-10 at Fs43 PD 1 Ponder, C sideline pass complete to Fortson, J. for 14 yards to the BC43, 1ST DOWN FS, out-of-bounds (Rollins, R).
Fs  2-10 at Fs46 PD 0 Smith, A rush right for 1 yard to the FS47, out-of-bounds (Francois, R).
Fs  2-10 at Fs25 PD 1 Ponder, C rush quarterback draw for 11 yards to the FS36, 1ST DOWN FS (Akins, K;Francois, R).
Fs  2-13 at Bc18 PD 0 Ponder, C slant pass intercepted by Bowman, M at the BC13, Bowman, M return 87 yards to the FS0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 01:04.
Fs  2-13 at Bc41 PD 0 Ponder, C BS pass complete to Parker, P for 8 yards to the BC33 (Bowman, M).
Fs  2-16 at Bc37 PD 0 Smith, A rush for loss of 9 yards to the BC46 (Raji, B).
Fs  2-19 at Bc27 PD 0 PENALTY FS false start (Sanders, Z.) 5 yards to the BC32.
Fs  2-24 at Bc32 PD 0 Ponder, C sideline pass complete to Carr, G for 11 yards to the BC21 (Davis, W;McLaughlin, M).
Fs  2-9 at Bc42 PD 1 Ponder, C BS pass complete to Owens, R for 30 yards to the BC12, 1ST DOWN FS, out-of-bounds (Davis, W), PENALTY BC personal foul (Davis, W) 6 yards to the BC6.
Fs  2-9 at Bc32 PD 0 Ponder, C middle pass incomplete to Smith, A, dropped pass.

FSU found success on 6 of 17 2nd downs.  Again, the goal here is over 44%.  FSU succeeded 35% of the time.  The offense did not perform well on 2nd down.  Specifically, FSU succeeded in 3 of 10 2nd down passing situations (30%), and on 3 of 7 non-passing situations (43%).  NOTE: Those aren't times they threw or ran, they are passing situations (2nd and 8+), or non-passing situations (2nd and 7 or less).  The 30% in passing down and distance isn't good, but it's not horrendous.  One of the non-successes was a dropped pass.  If Antone can catch it, we're at 40%.  We want to hit about 35% in passing situations, or at least that is my goal.  The 43% in running situations backs up the idea that our line got dominated.  Ponder was the only one to have success in 2nd down.  He ran 2 draws for 1st downs.  The runs by other players?  -1, 5, -1, -2.  The offensive line gave no time in passing situations, on the whole, and it's pretty evident that they failed in run blocking as well.  That shows up in the quarterback scramble numbers.  In watching the tape, you can see that Ponder got extremely gunshy and did not trust his wideouts to run the correct patterns; for good reason, as they ran poor routes on 2 of the 3 interceptions.  More on that later.

 

FSU's 3rd downs.

Fs  3-1 at Bc23 NPD 1 Ponder, C rush right for 3 yards to the BC20 (Davis, W), PENALTY BC offside defense (Giles, A) 5 yards to the BC18, 1ST DOWN FS, NO PLAY.
Fs  3-3 at Fs45 NPD 1 Ponder, C screen pass complete to Smith, A for 22 yards to the BC33, 1ST DOWN FS (Davis, W).
Fs  3-4 at Fs17 NPD 0 Ponder, C middle pass incomplete to Piurowski, C.
Fs  3-10 at Fs40 PD 0 Ponder, C screen pass incomplete to Owens, R, QB hurry by Akins, K.
Fs  3-13 at Bc21 PD 0 Ponder, C flag pass incomplete to Owens, R.
Fs  3-25 at Bc46 PD 0 Ponder, C deep pass intercepted by Fletcher, D at the BC19, Fletcher, D return 0 yards to the BC19 (Parker, P).
Fs  3-5 at Bc46 PD 1 Ponder, C crossing pass complete to Owens, R for 14 yards to the BC32, fumble forced by McLaughlin, M, fumble by Owens, R recovered by FS Owens, R at BC32, 1ST DOWN FS.
Fs  3-5 at Bc33 PD 0 Ponder, C sideline pass incomplete to Carr, G.
Fs  3-7 at Fs23 PD 0 Ponder, C screen pass complete to Smith, A for 2 yards to the FS25 (Fletcher, D).
Fs  3-9 at Bc32 PD 0 Ponder, C sideline pass incomplete to Carr, G (Davis, W).
Fs  3-9 at Fs47 PD 0 Ponder, C deep pass incomplete to Owens, R.
Fs  4-5 at Bc33 PD 0 Ponder, C sideline pass complete to Parker, P for 4 yards to the BC29, out-of-bounds (McLaughlin, M).

FSU found success on 3 of 12 2nd downs.  Again, the goal here is over 44%.  FSU succeeded 25% of the time.  The offense did not perform well on 3nd down at all.  Specifically, FSU succeeded in 1 of 9 3rd down passing situations (11%), and on 2 of 3 non-passing situations (66%).  NOTE: Those aren't times they threw or ran, they are passing situations (3rd and 5+), or non-passing situations (3rd and 4 or less).  The 11% in passing down and distance is bad.  We want to hit about 35% in passing situations, or at least that is my goal.  I think we saw some of the mistrust from Ponder here.  3rd and short against a zone basically requires guys to find the hole and sit down.  They did a poor job of that, and Ponder did a poor job of anticipating their moves.  He was also under a lot of pressure.  I was really disappointed in our wide receiver's willingness to be rerouted.  Everyone in this facet needs to get better.  Some of this will come with time.  

The 66% in running situations is quite good, but FSU only had 3 instances of 3rd and 4 or less. 

Florida State did a decent job on 1st down, but when they failed on 1st down they failed badly.  FSU was below goal in 2nd and especially 3rd down.  It is expected that they'll do a 'lil better than 44% in non-passing down and distance, and 50% (5 of 10) is acceptable.  The problem is that FSU did not have enough of those opportunities.  They did however, face many a situation that offers the greatest advantage to the defense  (passing down and distance), and succeeded only 21% of the time (4 of 19).  When FSU was forced to pass, BC's front pinned their ears back, the pocket was destroyed, Ponder had to escape, and BC rolled coverage.

 

Continuing Weasie's question:

You can tell sometimes when a QB throws a ball one way and the receiver breaks the other or when there is no one around. Will we abandon downfield route schemes in these next two games to protect against teams sitting back on us? It seems like we don’t have time to do it anyway unless we roll the pocket and when you do that you’re limiting yourself to one side of the field most of the time.

I won’t ever question Jimbo’s play calling because I have no clue what I’m talking about half the time, but it didn’t look like we were opening anything up against B.C. I think he tried to say that he wasn’t able to build anything because we didn’t have the ball alot. I guess I’ll wait for your play analysis later in the week, but I dont understand why we just didnt do the same thing to them that they were doing to us. Run the same plays that work until they adjust to stop them. The little dump throws and bubbles seemed to be there for a good 4-6 yards each time. I understand the necessity for getting big chunks of yards when you’re down, but I think it was apparent that they were trying to make sure we had the ball as little as possible. Why were we throwing anything dangerous. I was having flashbacks to the Wake game.

I'll look at this today and answer it in the context of Fisher's comments and my film thoughts.

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