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VS.

Saturday, Nov. 29

Kickoff 3:30 pm ET

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Scattered T-Storms

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Precip: 50%

Spectator Index: 6

 

Last Updated Nov 28 04:06 p.m. ET

Wind Impact: Medium

 

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Rain will help us

a lot more than it will help UF.

by FSUSOM on Nov 27, 2008 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

Beat me to it

Hopefully it pours like it hasn’t since Noah was a shipwright.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Nov 27, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

We played

well against Eastern Carolina? Correct me if I’m wrong in the rain. But, hey, it was Eastern Carolina. 69-0.

Well, I will appreciate for you to keep my zingers out of your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Nov 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

Typo

- Eastern Carolina? Correct me if I am wrong -.

Well, I will appreciate for you to keep my zingers out of your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Nov 27, 2008 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

We didn’t play well against Miami in the rain. Before the rain and during the sporadic showers, yeah. But when it came down hard, we started to play poorly.

I don’t necessarily agree with people that say showers help UF. Our offenses are similarly impacted by the rain I think. It’s not like we’re a 350lb hog-molly grinder team. Even our running game is predicated on the quickness of our OL.

by CaStauch on Nov 27, 2008 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

meant to say “…with people that say showers hurt UF”

by CaStauch on Nov 27, 2008 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Rain not a plus

EB’s spin move has been very effective, but a sloppy field with poor footing, may take that move away. If the rain slows EB down, I think our DB’s will be very vunerable.

by heartnnole on Nov 28, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

On a side note

R.I.P. Sean Taylor. One year ago today. Most dominating safety I ever saw in college.

by FSUSOM on Nov 27, 2008 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

They out-man us on both lines of scrimmages, so I don’t think rain will help much. They can run it down our throats if they want to. Can we run it down their throats? Probably not. Most of our success in the run game is on the edges, and rain will slow that down.

by mp212121 on Nov 27, 2008 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

I’d hardly call them running up the middle with rainey and demps and hoping to break a big one “running it down our throats”

by CaStauch on Nov 27, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone know how much FU has played/practiced in the rain?

I cannot WAIT to see how Ponder does against the gates. He was awesome against Miami and I have a lot of confidence in him for this game, which could show could go a long way in showing us his potential. When I think big upsets, I look for a the necessary all around team effort, but then there are the people who make big plays (like Crabtree,TT, against Texas).

I think people overlook Tony Carter as a playmaker. He has made big plays for us consistently in bowl games and also came up with two interceptions against Miami (just thinking off the top of my head). I’m not sure about his big play making ability in years past against the gates but I think he gets a big play in regardless of whether we win or not.

by FSUvaFan on Nov 27, 2008 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that we have Ingram, Watson, and Verdell

all guys who could easily play safety or did at some point. You need a lot of speed to defend this team. Nobody has ENOUGH speed, but we have better that most.

by Bud Elliott on Nov 27, 2008 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

 FSUn,

Remember that cover 2 outline i did on the mainboard for our game vs VT? that same gameplan could be of some use vs. florida.

same dynamic, just more of it on UF.

by CaStauch on Nov 27, 2008 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Speed plus Discipline

True, I like our speed as well but what could make our speed irrelevant: our players being obsessed with getting “big” hits in. Harvin is a slippery dude… the players need to think about sound, fundamental tackling and then take the big hits when available. I hope our defense can do the same. That goes along with “making them drive down the field” post you had. Limit the YACS, limit the YACS.

FSUncensored, do you think that the way we contained Spiller against Clemson on the perimeter - remeber us having a CB or LB able to force him to the sideline and then pushing him out of bounds a couple times for a loss or minimal gain- can be similar against FU, or does FU not really run that type of play? I don’t know enough specifics about the game, but as a normal viewer, it seemed as though the defense played pretty well disciplined there in terms of assignment football, or at least having the right scheme. The breakdown of games you provide is outstanding, and I was hoping you could shed some light on that. Thanks

by FSUvaFan on Nov 28, 2008 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

You make a fine point about being sound tacklers first and hitters second.

As to the Clemson question, that is less of a play type and more of a principle of sound defense. You maintain your proper pursuit angle. I have very little confidence that we can do this. I don’t like our discipline under Amato. Clemson didn’t have much of a running QB misdirection threat. Now, if you get pressure in the backfield, and force a player to change his angle, this process becomes much easier.

by Bud Elliott on Nov 28, 2008 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

The example of tackler first and hitter second is a microcosm of the difficulties we have on defense. We need to teach executing first and letting our natural athleticism create big plays as consequence of our execution, not in sacrifice of our execution

by CaStauch on Nov 28, 2008 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah

I’d prefer to be known by my favorite saying….BOOM MOTHER F’ER

to know that he could have been ours last season :(

by CaStauch on Nov 28, 2008 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

BTW, Happy Thanksgiving Bud

And Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on this growing site.

by CaStauch on Nov 28, 2008 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

To you as well.

Also, get ready for law school. We had a 2-hr thanksgiving dinner tonight with some friends… then back to studying.

by Bud Elliott on Nov 28, 2008 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

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