MBB Game 7: Cal 77, FSU 80 (Vegas)
by Bud Elliott on Nov 30, 2008 1:10 PM EST
in FSU Basketball
227 comments
California Golden Bears at Florida St. Seminoles, Nov 29, 2008 10:30 PM EST
We had a 12 point lead with 1:38 to go... and hold on to win by 3. I'll take the win. Good defense for most of the night.
Offense
Defense
Date
Opponent
Result
Site
Pace
Eff.
eFG%
TO%
OR%
FTR
Eff.
eFG%
TO%
OR%
FTR
Sat Nov 15
Jacksonville (s) (sr)
W, 59-57
A
69
85.6
52.4
26.1
18.8
73.2
82.7
36.0
16.0
33.3
26.5
Tue Nov 18
La Salle (s) (sr)
W, 65-61
A
71
92.0
45.8
25.5
26.9
58.3
86.3
40.0
19.8
31.5
30.0
Thu Nov 20
Stetson (s) (sr)
W, 79-77
H
73
108.3
45.5
23.3
46.1
60.7
105.6
53.1
19.2
33.3
20.0
Sat Nov 22
Coastal Carolina (s) (sr)
W, 82-70
H
71
116.0
56.7
21.2
32.8
50.0
99.0
51.8
31.1
37.5
30.9
Mon Nov 24
Western Illinois (s) (sr)
W, 67-55
H
62
108.6
48.0
19.4
36.5
44.0
89.1
40.9
21.1
21.0
47.7
Fri Nov 28
Cincinnati (s) (sr)
W, 58-47
N
64
90.7
42.0
28.1
43.2
50.0
73.5
36.1
29.7
40.5
31.5
Sat Nov 29
California (s) (sr)
W, 80-77
N
78
102.7
55.2
23.1
25.6
70.8
98.8
44.1
16.7
20.8
54.2
This was a complete free throw fest because of our end game tactics.
Pretty evenly played because LH made some really sketchy decisions in the end-game situation. This was an important win for this young team as the Noles move to 7-0!
This is a nice end to a pretty poor, though expected, day.
GAME 8: Northwestern.
Last night the Noles defeated Cincinnati in the Semis of the Global Sports Challenge in a low scoring, poor shooting, defensive battle that Ryan Reid took over to lead the Noles to Victory. Looking to go 7-0, the Noles take on the Cal Bears in the Finals of the tournament tonight in Vegas. The game is at 10:30 Eastern, from vegas. ESPN2!! Preview Inside
Progress:
"We were much more aggressive on the boards and executed our offense better and showed signs of growing against a veteran team," FSU coach Leonard Hamilton said.
Last night the Noles took on a very good Cincinnati ball club in a battle and we came out on top, earning a huge victory for our young Noles. Tonight, they take on an even bigger opponent in Cal, who is ranked 14th in the Pomeroy Ratings. Finally the rest of the country can see our team play, we're on ESPN 2 tonight! So if you're still awake, sober enough to remember or care about FSU basketball...it should be a great game.
Here's Cal's numbers:
Offense
Defense
Date
Opponent
Result
Site
Pace
Eff.
eFG%
TO%
OR%
FTR
Eff.
eFG%
TO%
OR%
FTR
Sat Nov 15
Pacific (s) (sr)
W, 68-56
H
61
112.3
50.0
19.8
35.6
58.7
92.5
45.6
14.9
25.4
14.0
Tue Nov 18
San Francisco (s) (sr)
W, 87-74
H
67
128.9
65.0
13.3
31.9
18.3
109.7
61.1
20.8
18.2
20.4
Thu Nov 20
Texas Pan American (s) (sr)
W, 85-58
H
60
142.3
74.5
18.4
40.0
13.2
97.1
52.2
31.8
50.0
33.3
Mon Nov 24
North Carolina A&T (s) (sr)
W, 82-47
H
66
124.6
54.3
13.7
48.5
46.5
71.4
35.1
28.9
33.3
17.5
Fri Nov 28
Nevada Las Vegas (s) (sr)
W, 73-55
A
69
106.6
52.7
21.9
41.4
37.5
80.3
33.6
16.1
27.6
29.
Their 4 factor ratings:
Offense Defense
Raw Efficiency : 123.5 ( 2) 89.8 ( 60)
Adj Efficiency : 123.4 ( 12) 91.8 ( 85)
Effective FG% : 59.5 ( 6) 44.8 ( 81)
Turnover Pct. : 17.4 ( 35) 22.4 (137)
Off. Rebound% : 40.1 ( 40) 30.2 ( 92)
Free Throw Rate: 25.6 (153) 22.7 ( 12)
3-Point FG% : 60.7 ( 1) 32.9 (148)
2-Point FG% : 50.5 ( 97) 42.7 ( 70)
Free Throw Pct.: 75.3 ( 41) 66.7 (130)
Block Pct. : 8.5 (173) 7.8 (192)
Steal Pct. : 5.9 ( 4) 7.4 (284)
3PA/FGA : 22.3 (324) 30.7 (111)
A/FGM : 59.0 ( 94) 49.1 ( 87)
They shoot the ball extremely well, especially from the new 3 point line. They don't turn the ball over and protect the ball very well. They get up and down the court but they don't get to the line.
Look at their defense...They don't steal, they don't defend the shot well and they don't send this opponents to the line. That last one will be the key to our success. If...a big if...we can get to the line we might be able to stay in this game. But the likelihood of us getting the calls against Cal is low.
Our games so far:
Offense
Defense
Date
Opponent
Result
Site
Pace
Eff.
eFG%
TO%
OR%
FTR
Eff.
eFG%
TO%
OR%
FTR
Sat Nov 15
Jacksonville (s) (sr)
W, 59-57
A
69
85.6
52.4
26.1
18.8
73.2
82.7
36.0
16.0
33.3
26.5
Tue Nov 18
La Salle (s) (sr)
W, 65-61
A
71
92.0
45.8
25.5
26.9
58.3
86.3
40.0
19.8
31.5
30.0
Thu Nov 20
Stetson (s) (sr)
W, 79-77
H
73
108.3
45.5
23.3
46.1
60.7
105.6
53.1
19.2
33.3
20.0
Sat Nov 22
Coastal Carolina (s) (sr)
W, 82-70
H
71
116.0
56.7
21.2
32.8
50.0
99.0
51.8
31.1
37.5
30.9
Mon Nov 24
Western Illinois (s) (sr)
W, 67-55
H
62
108.6
48.0
19.4
36.5
44.0
89.1
40.9
21.1
21.0
47.7
Fri Nov 28
Cincinnati (s) (sr)
W, 58-47
N
64
90.7
42.0
28.1
43.2
50.0
73.5
36.1
29.7
40.5
31.5
Our 4 Factor ratings:
Offense Defense
Raw Efficiency : 100.6 (161) 89.0 ( 47)
Adj Efficiency : 96.0 (217) 90.6 ( 67)
Effective FG% : 48.3 (169) 43.1 ( 48)
Turnover Pct. : 24.0 (258) 22.7 (124)
Off. Rebound% : 34.2 (138) 33.3 (182)
Free Throw Rate: 41.4 ( 11) 30.1 ( 71)
3-Point FG% : 35.6 (125) 29.2 ( 68)
2-Point FG% : 46.2 (197) 42.6 ( 67)
Free Throw Pct.: 74.5 ( 50) 66.3 (128)
Block Pct. : 3.3 ( 10) 18.3 ( 10)
Steal Pct. : 10.0 (181) 12.2 ( 66)
3PA/FGA : 29.3 (241) 41.6 (321)
A/FGM : 53.1 (188) 50.0 ( 96)
We have improved in most aspects though the early part of the season. This will be one of toughest tests before ACC play begins...oh wait we play Florida in a week. We still turn the ball over a lot, but that isn't Cal's style. If we can defend well, particularly on the perimeter we'll be in this one. Unfortunately, I think our chances of going 7-0 are low. This is an excellent test to see what kind team we have. Unfortunately, Cal ran away from UNLV from the start and we were stuck in a dog fight most of the game.
Look forward to hearing your thoughts!
Go Noles!
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Sad Afternoon
But we’re on the deuce tonight?
Let me go look…
10 min in
And I have it at 15-13 Cal
They do shoot well (7/15) and don’t foul much.
We’re going to have to keep the TO’s down and execute on offense to pull this one out.
FSU takes their first lead since early in the ball game
Old fashioned 3 pt play by the X-Man and then TD drains from long range.
This team is starting to take shape.
We play very aggressive defense and at least attempt to funnel stuff inside. We take lots of chances on defense because we have the shot blockers.
any idea how many they usually make?
I know he make a high %
by TBfisherman on Nov 29, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Cal has 3 guys with 2 fouls
someone is going to foul out
by TBfisherman on Nov 29, 2008 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
They cooled down quite a bit - 3/10
And we definitely did a good job getting to the line in the second 10 min.
32-23 Noles at the half.
Cm’on – let’s salvage today
FSUun
I have been thinking about Ham and he still hasn’t had the chance to play with a full team yet. He finally has some big men. He has been hurt by some stuff out of his control. (Jon Kreft & AJ going pro). I think he deserves more time. Defense wins championships.
I agree to a certain extent. However, some of that is Ham’s doing. He’s had too many misses in recruiting for it to just be chance. I think you have to take chances on some of the players considering where FSU is coming from (can’t really match up with any of the better programs in facilities, tradition, or current record) but he is getting us to the point where we don’t have to take as many chances (see Singultary and Snear).
this is their run
We need to stay ahead at least 6, then tack on another 10.
by TBfisherman on Nov 29, 2008 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Thought Douglas took the shot without working the Offense
But I liked the hustle afterwards – just wish we had taken the ball back out and run the offense.
by CelticPride on Nov 30, 2008 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Just got done watching Ok-Ok State
Wow, up13, are we good or are these teams (Cincy, Cal) sort of “meh”
At this point, who knows?
This game isn’t over.
by CelticPride on Nov 30, 2008 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
I am way behind you
are you listening to a radio?
by TBfisherman on Nov 30, 2008 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
me too
but I’m in bed next to my wife, so I am relying on the web
by TBfisherman on Nov 30, 2008 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Echefu
If he turns out to be a dependable player, you have to credit the coachong staff. That bodes well for Alabi.
Good FT shooting makes me happy
Lead put out to 13
Amen
We’d play Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out! until our eyes burst into flames….but we liked it! We loved it!
the arcade version was awesome
especially if you knew the codes
by TBfisherman on Nov 30, 2008 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
At least it wasn't
Boom goes the dynamite
by CelticPride on Nov 30, 2008 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Singleton is fouled out
Douglas and Louks each have 4 fouls
_Echefu has 15 pt.s too…
by CelticPride on Nov 30, 2008 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
hard to tell what he's doing...
on the radio
by CelticPride on Nov 30, 2008 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sitting here....
Don’t foul Don’t foul Don’t foul….
The foul is the right call NOW, but before... ugh
by Bud Elliott on Nov 30, 2008 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
even if he misses
It’s a miracle finish to lose
by CelticPride on Nov 30, 2008 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
And yet it's all over and we won
Why do I still feel like… oh, never mind.
Northwestern on Wednesday..
A Big East Win, A Pac 10 win – now we need a Big 10 win and an SEC win
Dont know about Bball
I see that we arw 7-0 right now. how good is that. I dont know about B-ball other than my wife is a NCSt Fan and my Gpa moved to Advance NC to get his WF season tickets.
Animal2005 did a nice write-up on them on Warchant:
http://floridastate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1080&tid=118508812&mid=118508812&sid=1061&style=2
If you don’t want me posting this stuff, Bud, please let me know.
That's fine. I'm not trying to make a living off T'Nation.
Dot doesn’t want us posting sections of premium articles. I’ve agree not to go beyond the bounds of the fair use doctrine. I assume that article is free, and not premium, and I can’t see the harm in giving the guy free publicity.
If you see any of our original research over there, without being cited, definitely let me know. Turnabout of inly fair play.
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