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Around SBN: The Gift Of The 2003 Tigers

It's hard out here for a Nole... Sometimes

Some FSU fans, myself included, have found themselves in a pretty negative place since the losses to Boston College and then the Gators last Saturday. The "Fire Bowden" chants have even started up again. This time, however, they are not directed at a much-maligned Offensive (in every sense of the word) Coordinator, but toward the Legend himself. The men's basketball team has managed to stay undefeated so far, but still shows the lack of consistency that has been then trademark of the Leonard Hamilton era . The black clouds of coming arrests and an NCAA verdict still hang over the intersection of Gaines and Pensacola streets. But, lest we forget, there are some silver linings around those clouds.


The past seven years have been pretty forgettable for Florida State football. Aside from a 10 win season in 2003, the Noles haven't lived up to the lofty standards set in the 80s and 90s. Many of the younger fans have become jaded with a program that just isn't what it used to be. But there is hope. The jury might still be out on the team's performance under Jimbo Fisher's leading, but what can't be disputed is that the guy in charge on offense finally has a plan. We are back to recruiting based on personal scouting and relationships, not national lists and hearsay. We seem to be developing players that fit our gameplan, and developing gameplans that fit our players, and we began to reap some of the benefits this season. If we can get the same kind of infusion of enthusiasm on the defensive side of the ball, whether it be from new coaches or a renewed focus, I have no doubt Florida State will return to the top of the polls within the next three years.

Star-divide

 

The basketball team has become a victim of expectations. Watching Tim Pickett-led teams was a treat. We didn't have nearly the talent of the Dukes and UNCs of the world, but you felt like Tim would hit every shot if he had to in order to get us into the game. But we didn't make the tournament when Tim was here. With a little talent and a lot of hard work, Al Thornton made himself an absolute monster of a basketball player. Fifty points didn't seem out of the question when Al was on. But we didn't make the tournament when Al was here. Leonard Hamilton has drastically improved the talent level of this team. He even brought in a number 1 recruiting class. But we didn't make the tournament when the number 1 recruiting class was here. But there is hope. With Singleton on the roster and Snaer coming in next season, we've got two more potentially great college basketball players. We've also been able to surround these guys with talented players. If Leonard Hamilton can coach any team to the Dance, it would be this one. If he can, we can all be excited. If he can't, we can all be excited about how full the cupboard is for the next guy.


The Florida State baseball team is the Brooklyn Dodgers of the NCAA. "Wait till next year." After an extraordinary run during the 90s, fans got accustomed to Omaha. When we failed to win a championship, fans got disgusted. Too many years watching a team win 50+ games in the regular season only to go cold in the post season turned off the casual observers and created doubt for the diehards. But there is hope. Last season might have been the most enjoyable baseball season I've seen since I became a Nole fan. This was a team that wasn't expected to do much.  But they went out and fought hard, scrapped to the end, made the most of what they were given, and made it to the World Series. We saw Buster Posey become a legend before our very eyes. The last two recruiting classes have brought in quality players that fit our needs. I think everybody is anxious to see Kyle Long, a 6'7'' power hitting left-hander, get acquainted with the short porch in right field. We have some arms, we have some bats, and, after last year, we have some experience. The next few years could be good to FSU fans.


In the non-Big Three sports, FSU is probably better than it has ever been. The women's basketball team puts the men's to shame in regards to tournament appearances and national rankings, and Coach Semrau is starting to bring in some very talented and coveted recruits. Women's volleyball and softball have new coaches that are attempting to bring those programs back to their former glory. We have one of the top golf programs in the ACC, if not the country. Our swimming teams compete for ACC titles. The track and field team is phenominal. Three National Championships... in a row. I guess we better find some land around Mike Long Track to build another statue and stained-glass window. If not for the Men's track team, Florida State would be known as a Women's soccer school as they have gone to the College Cup four of the last five years.


So are there things to be concerned about? Yes. Are there reasons to feel down? Yes, especially in light of the University of Florida at Gainesville's recent successes. But keep your head up, Seminole Fan, because the future is still bright.

 

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Good read

The basketball team has always been an enigma to me. Florida is just as rich for basketball players as football players. Then again it took Billy D, what, 7 years to get his first SEC title at UF so it must be something.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 3, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Nice Job

I liked reading this and it is so true.

by fsunole23 on Dec 3, 2008 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Great piece

reminded me that there is more than just football here

It sucks when both of your teams let you down on a weekly basis. But you still gotta cheer for them. Go 'Noles. (Damn you UF) And Go 'Cats. (About time we had a seasonal tourney win, even if it was in Vegas)

by floundringaround on Dec 3, 2008 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

In Regards To Softball

The jury is way, way out on Lonnie Alameda. Her record was .500-ish at UNLV and, quite frankly, seems to be a hiring because FSU didn’t want to pony up money for a bigger name. That’s a shame, considering FSU has a very nice facility at JoAnne Graf Field, and should be able to pull in the best-of-the-best around Florida, but always seems to have to go to podunk, CA or WA to get a leftover from there (Tiffany McDonald aside, she was great and would have been better had she not had to deal with 3 different pitching coaches over her 4 years).

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Dec 3, 2008 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah… you guys should check in in the spring… I cover lots of softball. I’m pretty sure it was 3, although the first might have been a redshirt year for her. Alameda is 157-158-1 career as a coach. And she brought her whole UNLV staff with her. Lucky us.

It’s sad, Dr. Graf was a very good coach, but I think spoiled players and her coaching style didn’t mesh as much anymore, and for some odd reason we never got the best of the best in southeast, there was always a small obsession with west coast players, even if there were some better kids at home.

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Dec 3, 2008 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

No no...

what’s worse is that it’s not “high hyped” national talent, it’s 2nd or 3rd pick out there usually.

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton

by NoleCC on Dec 3, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Its nice to hear news of other sports

I dont get to hear about the other sports but now I have more things to tell my in-laws why FSU is better than NCST

by Desman on Dec 4, 2008 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

Don't expect Long to get acquainted with the short porch in right

Word is that he’s going to be pitching mostly (set-up if not closer) as his swing doesn’t translate very well. This is just second hand information I’ve got so take it for what it’s worth.

by evenflow58 on Dec 4, 2008 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

Hmm.

What is he like as a pitcher? I assume power-stuff…

by Bud Elliott on Dec 4, 2008 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

All I remember is at least a mid-90s fastball.

Coming from a 6’7’’ left hander, that made me excited. Still wish we could get him to hit though.

by MattDNole on Dec 4, 2008 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

About right. He’s supposed to be pretty intimidated. That’s not to say he’ll never hit but it doesn’t seem like he’ll be playing first or DHing

On a similar note, it’s nice to see all these tall power pitchers coming through the program. That sort of stuff usually pay dividends come tourney time.

by evenflow58 on Dec 4, 2008 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

mid 90s heat from a lefty

SUCKS when you are lefthanded also.

I would know.

by FSUSOM on Dec 4, 2008 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

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