Auburn outs Tubberville-- to pursue Jimbo Fisher?
2:40 PM Update, courtesy of Fsued and Espn.com:
Current coaches-in-waiting Jimbo Fisher of Florida State and Will Muschamp at Texas are very unlikely to pursue the opening, although they haven't been ruled out entirely, the sources said.
7:21 PM Update: DR. Saturday (don't laugh, he is very well respected) reports that Leach and Petrino are the leading candidates. Petrino has a reported 7 million dollar buyout, and a non-compete w/ SEC West Teams. After paying Tubbs 3/ 4.5/ 6 million to leave, buying out the 8 million from petrino's contract, beating the non-compete, Auburn would still be forced to shell out 3 mill a year to Petrino (who in my opinion is an amazing coach, and one of the few who could compete with Saban).
Leach makes more sense to me, and has reportedly expressed interest.
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Word is they're coming after Jimbo Fisher. The 'Nole's administration needs to step up here. Make a call, FSU. Bobby or Jimbo? 79 Yearold who by all accounts does nothing and might not lead the Noles into next year, much less the next decade, or the young, energetic guy who is doing everything behind the scenes?
I do not think we can afford to keep both. Coloinial Bank's stock was slightly down today. Auburn can afford to do this, and it would mean Trickett is gone as well.
Those who say Jimbo is not committed to FSU are probably right. That does not matter. It is not about a coach loving a university. The coach-university relationship needs to be one of contractual employment, nothing more. In this day and age, a coach cannot afford to be committed to a school. It's about winning ballgames, not settling down somewhere for life. FSU fans need to stop worrying about whether Jimbo will golf with them a few times a year and worry about the worst case scenario: losing your two-best coaches and having no backup plan.
I have no doubts that Jimbo will leverage this to push Bobby out, or at the very least have the defensive staff fired. The right move here is to give in.
Remember the "could coach ___ get a job at any other school in his current capacity?" test? Apply that one here. You'll find your answer.

Fsued
This COULD be a break for us.
There will be FSU boosters who say: "Look, we are NOT losing Jimbo because the old man (and his wife??) won't give up the car keys (sudden "Driving Miss Daisy" flashback leaves me temporarily paralyzed - can't you picture Bobby in the back with Jimbo wearing the driving gloves and hat and Bobby not allowing him to turn on the A/C).Anyway, flashback over.
If I were a big money booster, I'd be on the phone to TK or the AD or whoever saying: We can't wait around another year - we're going to lose our guy for no good reason at all. Bear went out in the LIberty Bowl and it was sad and pathetic, but when you hang around this long, you rarely get to go out in a blaze of glory (should have retired in 1999 if he wanted that).
Champs will be a defacto home game against a slow Big 10 team - let's make that goodbye.
Auburn is a victim of their own success. They are a worse program than Clemson. Bama and UGA steal their recruits to the North and East. If they win 32 games in a 4 year span, they should be elated.
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Where will he go?
Hope they don’t go after Jimbo. Me thinks Brian Kelly will be getting some more calls now.
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 3, 2008 5:33 PM EST
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I think they will be all over Jimbo, unfortunately.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 5:34 PM EST
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sh1t. . .someone tell them Jimbo is a terrible coach. :)
that’s the worst case scenario.
Jimbo, please stay.
On a side note, how do people at Bama feel about this?
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 3, 2008 5:56 PM EST
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People are laughing at Auburn. If we lose Jimbo, we lose Trickett as well.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 6:05 PM EST
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double whammy
$#%#$ (bangs head against wall furiously)
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 3, 2008 6:13 PM EST
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Kelly
Apparently he said he has no intentions of leaving Cincinatti.
Tuesday December 2, 2008 (Update 4)
Cincinnati: Head coach Brian Kelly says that he will remain at Cincinnati and has no interest in leaving the university.
http://www.footballscoop.com/?cat=24
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 3, 2008 6:30 PM EST
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"I will not be the coach at Alabama"
Kelly is a great hired gun and I think he’d leave in an instant.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 6:33 PM EST
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This COULD be a break for us.
There will be FSU boosters who say: “Look, we are NOT losing Jimbo because the old man (and his wife??) won’t give up the car keys (sudden "Driving Miss Daisy” flashback leaves me temporarily paralyzed — can’t you picture Bobby in the back with Jimbo wearing the driving gloves and hat and Bobby not allowing him to turn on the A/C).
Anyway, flashback over.
If I were a big money booster, I’d be on the phone to TK or the AD or whoever saying: We can’t wait around another year — we’re going to lose our guy for no good reason at all. Bear went out in the LIberty Bowl and it was sad and pathetic, but when you hang around this long, you rarely get to go out in a blaze of glory (should have retired in 1999 if he wanted that).
Champs will be a defacto home game against a slow Big 10 team — let’s make that goodbye.
by Fsued on
Dec 3, 2008 5:42 PM EST
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Agree FSued
I read it on this site sometime ago that if FSU had won the title in 2000 Bowden would have retired then…Does anyone else remember reading/hearing that?
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by Curtain Jerker on
Dec 3, 2008 6:02 PM EST
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Tuberville was a good coach
he won a lot of games at a place that isn’t easy to do so, and was an absolute giant-slayer.
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by Curtain Jerker on
Dec 3, 2008 6:01 PM EST
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He's a victim of his own actions
Constantly hiring and firing coaches doesn’t help when you have a bad year. Fans and the administration will expect you to take the fall after one misstep.
by evenflow58 on
Dec 4, 2008 9:44 AM EST
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Here's a thought
I wonder if the Irish are upset they kept Chaz, now that Tuberville is available…
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by Curtain Jerker on
Dec 3, 2008 6:11 PM EST
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Jimbo?
I just don’t see Auburn going after him. Do you have any links that list him as a candidate?
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 3, 2008 6:18 PM EST
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No, it is all speculation at this point, but he has strong connections to the program.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 6:24 PM EST
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Muschamp
did he sign a contract with Texas or was that just verbal? I bet he would love that Auburn job. Why would he want to hang around and wait for Mack Brown to retire? He should see how crappy that is working out for his boy Jimbo.
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 3, 2008 6:26 PM EST
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He made some statements about not being ready to be a head coach quite yet.
That he’s still learning from Brown. Naturally, there’s a lot of politics in that statement, but there might be an element of truth behind it as well.
by hooper on
Dec 3, 2008 6:31 PM EST
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"I will not be the coach at Alabama"
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 6:35 PM EST
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Certainly.
You never say never until it’s official. And with people like Petrino, Saban, and Rodriguez, even that’s not necessarily never.
by hooper on
Dec 3, 2008 6:42 PM EST
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They have to say that and then they look bad once they go against their word.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 6:43 PM EST
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Saban is 12-0
He doesn’t look bad…It’s the nature of the business.
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by Curtain Jerker on
Dec 3, 2008 6:44 PM EST
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Saban's case was a little more extreme than others.
Petrino left mid-season. Rodriguez was a different animal and I don’t really hold anything against him so much. But the other two were certainly rabid job-hoppers in their own way.
Yes, it’s the nature of the business, but “there’s no way I’m going to Alabama” 2 weeks before going to Alabama is a little more than necessary coachspeak.
by hooper on
Dec 3, 2008 6:56 PM EST
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Okay, I can buy that.
Which coaches aren’t out for themselves nowadays?
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 6:58 PM EST
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Oh, none.
They’re really put in an unfair position; I’ll agree with you on that. I don’t like having mikes shoved in their face asking them if they’re leaving their current location while a season is still going on. I wish they’d all agree to simply say “no comment” every time that happens, regardless of reality.
by hooper on
Dec 3, 2008 7:05 PM EST
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different situations
First of all, I think Brown retires within two years and has communicated that to Muschamp. Texas is definitely a job worth waiting two years for. Muschamp hasn’t even begun to wait, either. If two years from now Brown is giving no indication that he’s ready to leave, then Muschamp should probably look around. I don’t think he’d do it before then though.
by andy_wooster on
Dec 3, 2008 9:48 PM EST
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Andy, how much maturing does Muschamp need?
You’re closer to the situation than me.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 10:14 PM EST
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Maybe it’s just me, but I am not too worried about Auburn pursuing Jimbo. No inside info or anything, I just don’t really see the logic. He’s Terry Bowden guy. He knows what a freakshow that place is. Would Auburn really want a guy from that staff? TB is still hated there.
I have a feeling this has a lot to do with Nick Saban. I think they’re looking to make a splash. I’m looking forward to Jimbo taking the reigns here, but he’s not a splash hire.
by LaneFenner on
Dec 3, 2008 6:21 PM EST
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They are terrified that Saban is choking them out-- and he is.
Check their downfall in recruiting rankings. The talent is no longer there.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 6:24 PM EST
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I'm surprised. . .Auburn can get whoever they want in.
Saban is cleaning up big time though. Will there ever be a school that can pull a five star recruit from Alabama that Saban wants? Don’t think that happens in the near future.
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 3, 2008 6:27 PM EST
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Auburn is on the level of Clemson, below Tennessee
I don’t think many coaches want to go coach against Saban in Alabama. He is already God-like here.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 6:30 PM EST
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In that case, they'll need to go for a crackshot recruiter.
That’s kinda how Tennessee handled it; make sure you get the recruiting guns, no matter who you hire. Be willing to pay for the staff to fill in around that.
by hooper on
Dec 3, 2008 6:27 PM EST
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Meant to ask: How's Fisher at recruiting?
by hooper on
Dec 3, 2008 6:28 PM EST
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Bingo. They have fringe top 25 talent now. Recruiting will be the key.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 6:30 PM EST
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Sounds like FSU needs to take the threat seriously then.
That’ll be what Auburn is looking for.
by hooper on
Dec 3, 2008 6:31 PM EST
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Does Auburn have the money
to both pay Tubs 3 million AND pay FSU the 2.5 million it costs to get Fisher?
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by Curtain Jerker on
Dec 3, 2008 6:33 PM EST
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That depends.
I don’t think they make this move to get a total unknown, though.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 3, 2008 6:34 PM EST
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what's the name of the Auburn booster?
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 3, 2008 6:38 PM EST
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He's probably at the forefront of this Tuberville mess,
and he of course will have a big part in the search. Always thought it was odd one man seemed to run the program.
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 3, 2008 6:55 PM EST
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The Golden Rule?
He who has the gold makes the rules…
by hooper on
Dec 3, 2008 6:58 PM EST
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never thought it would be a big booster though
that sort of stuff is frowned upon
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 3, 2008 6:59 PM EST
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Seems to be working for T. Boone at the moment.
That’s a level of politics and business that’s way above my understanding. I see the base level effects, but I have absolutely no idea how it all works, and I don’t want to know. I just know the boosters funnel a boatload of money into the program, their business interests somehow profit from program success, and the university is happy to accommodate.
by hooper on
Dec 3, 2008 7:04 PM EST
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Case in Point: Phil Knight
The University of Oregon joined an anti-sweatshop group, and Knight (CEO of Nike) said he would not make a planned 30 million dollar donation to the school.
Guess what happened next…Oregon stopped caring about sweatshops, leaving the group, and Knight continued to give them money hand over fist.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/04/25/MN28628.DTL
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by Curtain Jerker on
Dec 3, 2008 7:25 PM EST
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Crap...
Crap crap crap.
Crap crap crap crap crap crap crap.
It’s time we start presenting some gold watches to some coaches.
by MattDNole on
Dec 3, 2008 8:51 PM EST
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Now that I've got that out of my system.
Keep Jimbo or lose Jimbo, somebody still needs to get on the phone with Kevin Steele.
by MattDNole on
Dec 3, 2008 8:53 PM EST
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I just got home and saw the news.
I think Jimbo is a likely candidate there.
by MattDNole on
Dec 3, 2008 9:26 PM EST
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Man
I hope we dont lose Jimbo. Maybe he will use this to force Mickey and Chuck out.
by fsunole23 on
Dec 3, 2008 9:08 PM EST
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At the very least, Mickey and Chuck
and maybe this could be the leverage that the university needs to foce Bowden out as well.
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by Curtain Jerker on
Dec 3, 2008 9:24 PM EST
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AuburnSports.com
they mention the following “prominant” candidates: Muschamp, Leach, Paul Johnson, and Jimbo.
they mention potential candidates: Spurrier, Kelly, Tim Brewster, Turner Gill.
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 3, 2008 9:57 PM EST
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When has Spurrier ever NOT been mentioned for an open job?
He is not going anywhere.
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 3, 2008 10:10 PM EST
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who would want him anyways?
his offense is as stale as mickey’s defense. well, almost as stale.
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 3, 2008 10:29 PM EST
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Why does Charlie Strong never get in on these things?
by evenflow58 on
Dec 4, 2008 9:51 AM EST
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Miss State should look at him.
But I imagine they will start by calling Fulmer or Tuberville for good measure.
by MattDNole on
Dec 4, 2008 10:00 AM EST
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Because strong is dumb.
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 4, 2008 10:30 AM EST
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He should.
A young black coach kids like to play for? And he will come cheap to MissSt!
by FSUncensored on
Dec 4, 2008 10:51 AM EST
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I'd think long and hard before taking the Auburn job
1. I think Iron Bowl wins may become few and far between for the Tigers. Tough to have much success as a head coach if you can’t beat your ultra-hated rival with some consistency.
2. In-state recruiting will dry up, if it hasn’t already. The state of Alabama doesn’t produce enough talent to support two elite programs, and Saban is a top three recruiter in the country. There’s plenty of talent in the area outside of Alabama, but you’re still competing with Alabama, Georgia, Florida, LSU, FSU etc. for these players.
The resources versus expectations calculus just isn’t very favorable.
by andy_wooster on
Dec 3, 2008 9:58 PM EST
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Saban
While I agree with you, it’s never out of the question that Saban leaves. Wonder if Notre Dame would try to make a run at him after next season if Meyer turns it down? They’ve got plenty of money to throw around up there.
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 3, 2008 10:01 PM EST
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does he have connections to Notre Dame?
If not, I have a hard time seeing him leave ‘Bama for anything. He’s got a damn good thing going right now.
by andy_wooster on
Dec 3, 2008 10:09 PM EST
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not that i’m aware of. it would be a challenge that an egotistical coach like him would want to take on.
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 3, 2008 10:30 PM EST
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Jimbo's agent
no doubt he’s contacted Auburn. Leverage, leverage, leverage. The more the merrier for his client and him.
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 3, 2008 9:59 PM EST
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as bad as this could be I think its a blessing.
I know FSU is not the best school at the moment and the ACC is not the (Best)cof., but after this year I think Jimbo need to look at a few things.
1) His Off can and will work in the ACC.
2) He can win the ACCCG game next year and /or after that when he gets someone on the Def that can stop the rest of the ACC.
3) He can turn FSU into the USC of the ACC.
Now if he tries to go back to the SEC look at all he has to fight agenst. Bama, UGA, LSU, UF thats to start off. Hes at a school now that he can make a bigger name for himself if he can get BB and MA to step down. Once he takes over FSU should step up and make some space between the other schools. FSU might not beat UF but I think winning the ACC is the first step right now. We need to make it to the OB and get back to being a top 15-10 team again. I pray the boosters see this and pull the plug on BB. FSU needes to keep Jimbo hands down If the Booster cant see this something is down right wrong here. We lose him and we lose everything we have lost everything FSU has worked so hard to get.
by Desman on
Dec 4, 2008 8:18 AM EST
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Okay, new question.
What is better?
Head Coach at Auburn NOW, or HCIW for 2 more years at FSU with the big-time sanctions coming?
by FSUncensored on
Dec 4, 2008 10:58 AM EST
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I think HCIW for 2 years because
Its all about 2 things what can make the most money in the end and what will make you look the best. If he goes to Auburn then he gives up FSU. He might make a quick buck real fast but he will have a very hard time there. This is how I see it and I think its just the way it is. At Auburn they want someone to come in and take down Bama and Sabin both on the field and in recruiting. They want someone that can win the Cof. and go to the SECCG every year. How hard would it be to do this. One Sabin gets the top recruits from Bama then you have to compeat with Everyone for the rest. Now at FSU you have a team that in 1-2 years will be back in the ACCCG hunt and pos the NC hunt. All you have to do is get BB and/or MA out and get someone/ anyone in on def to take us to the next step. I know it sounds bad but the easy to take FSU and get to the ACCAG/ NC by waiting 2 years than take Auburn now.
by Desman on
Dec 4, 2008 11:41 AM EST
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You're right about Saban
Auburn’s expectations are totally unrealistic.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 4, 2008 11:42 AM EST
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Heres my question to you.
If played right and getts the boosters to force BB and/or MA out who do we get to the DC and/or take over as OC/QB coach. As this could put some pressure on the boosters I think this could be a very good thing but also it could jump out and bite FSU in the A$$. If Jimbo take over there would be 3 people gone on Def. I see us keeping Rick Trickett because hes the man with what he has done with the o-line, Odell Haggins because we cant lose the recruits. I dont know about the others but who would be gone of should be gone Chuck Amato, Mickey Andrews, and Jody Allen. That is three people to replace and right now so many teams are trying to get the most for there money. If its not tell the off season or next year we might not be able to get a good DC and staff. MA might just be the best we could get. Sounds sad but It might just be true. I dont know about other coaches but what O what are we going to do.
by Desman on
Dec 4, 2008 11:52 AM EST
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I’ll address the defensive coaches later, in the coming weeks. For offense, we would probably keep TE Coach and ace recruiter James Coley, promote him to OC, and have Jimbo be the head coach and QB coach.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 4, 2008 11:56 AM EST
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There are always teams trying to fill needs. There are also always assitants looking for a coordinator’s job.
by evenflow58 on
Dec 4, 2008 12:16 PM EST
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scholarships, bowl games, wins, TV?
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 4, 2008 4:30 PM EST
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Could be. Anyone who says they know for sure, including myself, are not truthful.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 4, 2008 4:34 PM EST
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Hopefully 2006-2007 wins
There weren’t many anyway.
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 4, 2008 4:42 PM EST
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HCIW for 2 more years at FSU
1) it will probably only be 1 more year
2) while these years are panning out, Bobby takes all the blame and if Jimbo is allowed to pick his staff in the meantime, building the new face of FSU. This might effectively give Jimbo an extention of the “new coaches/program changes” honeymoon period of a year or so because the new players and coaches are coming in while Bobby is still able to take a lot of the blame (from the majority of fans who don’t take the time or have the info for whos to blame for what). —2 years of rebuilding time, 1 disguised under old administration, 1 when the old administration is gone.
3) I don’t think Auburn has much of a chance if Saban stays at Bama.
4) I am biased because FSU is such a cooler program than Auburn.
by FSUvaFan on
Dec 6, 2008 12:09 AM EST
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Look for Jimbo to leverage this into a definitive date for Bobby to go.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 6, 2008 12:22 AM EST
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A definitive date would be a great thing at this point.
-Would probably boost moral of the players for the last year.
-Would probably lessen the ever decroding fame that Bowden has at FSU
^I hope Bobby can be remembered in the way deserved: the one who built the program into a powerhouse, made substantial bad decisions (almost the weakness esque type or Greek mythological weakness that all Greek characters have) which lead to a lull, but still left the program 1000 times better than when it started. He put us on the map and gave us all over a decade worth of awesome football to watch.
by FSUvaFan on
Dec 6, 2008 12:32 AM EST
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I don't think He'll jump...unless
There is a serious feeling that it will take bowden 2 – 3 more years to retire.
Reasons -
1. Auburn is not that great a job. (recruiting will be difficult, the location is not that great, the expectations are emmense – especially considering the history of the school, the state can’t keep two programs going and Auburn is not a true national program.
2. FSU – will always be a great potential recruiting school….even if we take a dive, someone good can come in and put us right back on the map. There is to much talent in the state and surounding areas not to. Also, It would take another decade of DUMB to remove us from the national landscape….kids still want to go to FSU.
3. Our boosters won’t let this happen….worst case senario, Jimbo interviews, scares the crap out of them, and gets the deal he really wants – head coach now with higher/fire ability. PS his agent is known for this kind of up selling….and that’s not really bad for us!
by truecolors on
Dec 4, 2008 10:30 AM EST
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2-3 years is out of the question
I give him 1 more year, tops, before he gets pushed out the door. Hopefully it will happen this offseason.
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 4, 2008 12:56 PM EST
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I want Jimbo to stay and be head coach, but I won’t lose sleep if he doesn’t, as long as we still clean house and hire an up-and-coming young coach who can recruit.
We just need to take it one step at a time…
Step 1: Inform Bowden that he will be fired if he doesn’t announce his retirement before the bowl game.
Step 2: Inform Jimbo that the job is his as soon as the bowl game is over, and tell him he has X amount of dollars to rebuild the defensive staff. Put the head coaching contract in front of him, and ask him if he still wants to flirt with Auburn.
Step 3: If Jimbo doesn’t sign the contract and wants to flirt with Auburn, throw the contract away, and go find a young head coach who can recruit, whether he’s from the pros or not, and tell him the job is his and he can assemble the staff as he pleases.
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 4, 2008 1:08 PM EST
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no way
You have to look at what Jimbo has done for FSU so far. I dont think we can just go get another one. We know he is a good Off. guy and a great recruiter. Second we throw him away we lose not only most of our recruits but the other half of the coaches like Rick Trickett. No we need to keep Jimbo. FSU cant just start over again and I dont think the boosters would want that.
by Desman on
Dec 4, 2008 1:21 PM EST
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I agree, but
I was more referring to just moving on regardless (i.e. taking bowden out of the equation). This is all hypothetical because I seriously doubt Fisher is a legit candidate for Auburn.
5 years in a row? Getting beat 45-15 in our house? Second straight time they have beaten us at home en route to the BCS championship? When is this crap going to end? Force Bobby to resign and let Jimbo clean house on the defensive staff. Anything less is doing permanent damage.
by mp212121 on
Dec 4, 2008 1:45 PM EST
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Auburn opening and any discussion involving Jimbo (for any opening) is a positive.
Plain and simple: Leverage for Jimbo is leverage for FSU fans. Auburn’s a terrible job, and there’s no way the admin would call his bluff. Work ’em, Coach.
by TRMNole on
Dec 4, 2008 2:32 PM EST
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ESPN report
Jimbo UNLIKELY to pursue Auburn job.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3744885
If I were a big FSU booster, I’d leak to the Fla. press that Jimbo has the hots for hte Auburn job (wants to stick it to Nick Saban) and is willing to be bought out. Thus, putting pressure on FSU to hasten the departure of BB.
by Fsued on
Dec 4, 2008 2:36 PM EST
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At the very least
The admin needs to make sure that Bobby knows 400 wins is off the table.
by FSUncensored on
Dec 4, 2008 2:38 PM EST
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this is way off topic but if you ever want reliable fsu gossip you need to go to seminole barber shop and talk to good ol’ Larry, he is always a week ahead of the media on fsu news!!!
by FsuMitch on
Dec 4, 2008 2:43 PM EST
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Thank GOODNESS
Clemson hired Dabo Swinney when they could have had Tuberville a couple of days later. Poor Tigers.
by FSUStateOfMind on
Dec 4, 2008 4:51 PM EST
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Amen
This could be a blessing or a curse to long suffering FSU fans. It is time Jimbo put some heat on them. Thinking it over I have to believe the administration, boosters and trustees are more savy than to let Fisher leave.
Do they really want more people selling their tickets to gators, more fan grumbling, in short go back to square one, lose recruits and most likely have Trickett leave with him? I don’t think so. Please tell me they have a better handle on it than this.
It is time for BB to head for Panama City. I don’t care if he has 400 wins. He would have been out front on the record long ago without hiring Fredo. One half mil was more important than records so why the heck is anybody else worried about it.
FSU has become to complacent. It is time for the night of the long knives people are tired of this.
by DocHoliday2 on
Dec 6, 2008 2:07 AM EST
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One Thing More
I don’t believe Auburn would have eased Tubberville out the door if they had not already had a nod agreement with somebody through agents. They may go through the interview process but I would say somebody has already been hired for all practical purposes.
by DocHoliday2 on
Dec 6, 2008 2:44 AM EST
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