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Can you pass the NCAA Recruiting Certification Test?

7:05 Update:  One of our members just passed this test, and a few others have come very close to passing-- all without being paid to study for this as a part of their employment.

I've kept this quiet for a while now as the Fisher to Auburn talk flared up and the defensive coordinator series kicked off.  I'm throwing it out there now.

The Rumor:  One of the offensive coaches has not passed the NCAA Recruiting Certification test.  This basically means that he can't recruit on his own.  It hampers our ability to recruit if we can't send everyone out to do their own thing.

The rumor goes on to say that some other coaches don't like the fact that this coach got to coach his position without paying any dues, and that he didn't play in a system that would give him the experience to teach the necessary skills to the players so that they can properly perform within our scheme.  The rumor is that this is the only offensive coach who could be in jeopardy.  Inside, I'll give you a chance to take the test.  It is difficult, but from what I understand, it is not tough to pass if you are being paid to pass this as a part of your job (which a coach would be).  I'm sure that you agree FSU cannot afford to simultaneously have a coach who doesn't coach and a coach who can't fully independently recruit.

I'm not going to name the coach right now.  That is not what this is about.  It is about making sure that we have quality coaches at every position and laying down the law that we will not be a charity or a haven for washed up coaches and former players.  They must be qualified if they want to coach.  Being a lifetime Nole is a huge bonus, but it is only a bonus.

Also inside: I span the web to figure out where FSU will go bowling, and other cool links from around the Seminole media sphere.

Later today: TrueCubbie will preview our basketball game against the Gators.

Star-divide

I found the test available online.  

Here is the memo to NCAA Institutions, with instructions.  

Here is the practice test.  (Only coaches can take the real test).  You need an 80% to pass.

So, what did you score?  I got a 30 of 40, and I have never studied any of this stuff.  A coach would need to get 32 of 40 to pass.  If it is true that one of our coaches can't pass this, we have a rather serious issue.  

Exam Summary
Sport Coach Institution Division Academic Year Date Timed Type Results Pct Pass
Football PRACTICE EXAM PRACTICE EXAM I 2008-09 12/07/2008 01:54 PM Y Online 30 - 40 75.0 N

Ironically, one of the questions is...

Who is permitted to contact and evaluate prospective student-athletes off campus for recruiting purposes?

Member TMRNole just passed the test!  Congrats, TMRNole!

Exam Summary 
Sport Coach Institution Division Academic Year Date Timed Type Results Pct Pass 
Football PRACTICE EXAM PRACTICE EXAM I 2008-09 12/07/2008 06:55 PM Y Online 33 – 40 82.5 Y

TomahawkNation Writer Truecubbie took the test and scored a 30 of 40 (32 of 40 is passing).

Member and frequent contributor Zach_Nole took the test and got a 27 of 40.  

I'm 100% sure neither of these guys have ever been asked to study for this or prepare for it as a requirement of their employment.

 

Bowl Projections

CBS:  Champs v. Wisconsin

Yahoo (Rivals): FSU v. Wisconsin

I am hearing that the Champs Sports selection guys have a lot of UNC members on staff and that they are trying to get UNC to the Champs.  This would be a screwjob of epic proportions, to be sure.  If this happens, we'd go to San Fran to play in the Emerald Bowl.  Reader Hopnole23 reports that Miami has accepted an invitation to the Emerald Bowl.  We will not go to San Francisco.

We are going to the Champs Sports Bowl!  HT: Hopnole23 and Orlando Sentinel

 

Jimbo to Auburn rumor fallout

Me: I think Bobby has yielded all power to Jimbo, that Jimbo will make sweeping personnel and procedural changes, and that he will stay.  I read his statement yesterday, and I think it is better than nothing but definitely could be parsed as fluff.  I am not sure if Jimbo got his raise, but looks like he did get some of the other things we speculated about on Friday.

Chantrant: Offers a cinical and optimistic view on the situation.

Scalpem: wonders what will happen if Bobby leaves. 

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Probably Carter

I think he is probably the one who failed it. Thats bad if a coach cant pass that test.

by fsunole23 on Dec 7, 2008 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

It has to be Carter.

I never sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death.

by FSUSOM on Dec 7, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Cut Bowden, Andrews, Amato, Allen, Carter.

I assume that is what Jimbo is bargaining for.

I never sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death.

by FSUSOM on Dec 7, 2008 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he got all but Bowden

and got total control over Human Resources, so to speak. This isn’t announced, but it is my best attempt to mesh all the information.

by Bud Elliott on Dec 7, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I can live with Bobby one more year

but I am still very angry he is going to be back.

Only one more year though.

I never sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death.

by FSUSOM on Dec 7, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

running back is the position where I'd most rather have an ace recruiter instead of a great coach

  I think it’s the easiest position to coach, because being a great running back is largely about pure athleticism and instincts rather than technique. That’s why it’s especially damaging to have a RB coach that is a liability as a recruiter. If I were Jimbo, I’d essentially forget about coaching for Carter’s replacement and just try and grab the best recruiter I could.

by andy_wooster on Dec 7, 2008 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Eric Bieniemy.

Recruiting Coordinator when Coley moves to OC.

But he’s somebody we’d have to play a lot.

by MattDNole on Dec 7, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Former mild star running back in the NFL.

Used to coach at Colorado (his alma mater).

Was recruiting coordinator at UCLA for a couple of years.

Now RB coach for the Minnesota Vikings.

by MattDNole on Dec 7, 2008 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Larry Porter

Has 1 year’s worth of Jimbo ties… but he’s a Les Miles guy.

by MattDNole on Dec 7, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Let the count down clock begin.

If it’s only Amato, Allen, and Carter… then that announcement can wait until early January.

If Mickey is gone, they need to announce it immediately. I’d venture a guess that a lot more fans would be willing to go to the Bowl game if they knew it was Coach Andrews’ last game. He deserves a send off.

Coach Bowden isn’t going anywhere this offseason.

by MattDNole on Dec 7, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

That's good to hear

So it’ll probably be Champs Sports against Wisconsin?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Dec 7, 2008 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

hopefully

baring anything drastic

I never sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death.

by FSUSOM on Dec 7, 2008 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That'll do

I live right by a Wisconsin bar so I’ll go there to enjoy the win :)

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Dec 7, 2008 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

we should rock Wisconsin

their QB play is awful

I never sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death.

by FSUSOM on Dec 7, 2008 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

and hopefully we’ll come out with a little something to prove after getting our butts handed to us by Florida and lay a little beatdown on them. I’ve had my fill of close wins

by hopnole23 on Dec 7, 2008 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Charlotte maybe?

that’s where UNC is supposed to go. West Va. accepted the bid to that bowl. But I think Orlando is a mortal lock unless the Peach or Gator do a 180 for no reason

by hopnole23 on Dec 7, 2008 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Uncensored, I hope this is a joke or something.

I took more than a few guesses. Put me in, Coach.

Exam Summary
Sport Coach Institution Division Academic Year Date Timed Type Results Pct Pass
Football PRACTICE EXAM PRACTICE EXAM I 2008-09 12/07/2008 06:55 PM Y Online 33 – 40 82.5 Y

by TRMNole on Dec 7, 2008 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

What's sad is...

…everything I know about recruiting rules I just learned in the last 15 minutes. I feel like I could print out the results, review the ones I got wrong, not even go over the ones I got right since good ol’ common sense seemed to do just fine, and then charge FSU a big chunk of change to put on an 8-hour course on how to pass the easiest test I have ever seen. Were there THREE concepts to learn? Maybe four? TrueCubbie was right, they ask the same questions over and over. Don’t give things to the kids! Don’t give things to the kids’ coaches! Don’t hold a bunch of camps all over the country! PASS!

Thank goodness it’s an online exam.

by TRMNole on Dec 7, 2008 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

TMRNole recruiting certification test services?

I like how some questions reveal information that can be used in other questions.

Maybe we can put on a clinic for this?

by Bud Elliott on Dec 7, 2008 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Sales manager.

Graduated FSU in ‘99, live in Orlando now. And the 29’s and 30’s are as good as my 33 – like I said, plenty of guesses. The lowest score I’ve seen is a 27, and I promise that person knows as much about recruiting rules as I do.

I’m still shocked at this.

by TRMNole on Dec 7, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a game I feel pretty confident about

Seems like an offense our D may actually be able to stop.

by Dent Street Nole on Dec 7, 2008 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

They run a pro-set

with a pretty good back (PJ Hill) and a really bad QB. Say what you will about Mickey Andrews – and I have – but his defense is predicated on stopping a pro-style offense.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Dec 7, 2008 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I scored a 29 out of 40

and I was watching both the Cowboys/Steelers game and the Coyotes/Blackhawks game while I was taking the test…it didn’t feel hard.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Dec 7, 2008 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Most likely

I am a test-taking pro…I’ve taken several tests for the state of Illinois (I’m studying to be a high school history teacher, so there are lots of certifications and whatnot) and I always rocked standardized tests as a kid…just a knack I have.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Dec 7, 2008 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Just brutal

Barry Switzer contributes nothing positive to anything…

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Dec 7, 2008 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I just took it with this in mind...

The test is to make sure coaches are not going to be too prying into recruit’s lives. It is not to make sure that coaches know what they ARE allowed to do, it is to make sure they know what they are NOT about to do. So no question is going to have an answer that is more leinient than the other option, as the questions are just going to be aboue making sure the coaches know about restrictions.

And when they had questions with a complex description, such as the 50 miles within the campus for a camp, you know it’s right. That’s just test-taking skills… whenever you see a random date or an answer that stands out, it’s right.

by tdchrisdavis on Dec 9, 2008 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

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