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Initial Reaction to Chattanooga Game  (Updated)

This are just some things I noticed  from watching the game at the Doak.  We will watch the game later and provide further analysis, but these are the things that jumped out.

First thing, the WR's dropped too many passes.  Bert Reed dropped a touchdown in the fourth quarter on a corner route on a well thrown ball from D'Vontrey Richardson.  Rod Owens also dropped one in the second quarter right off the line from Christian Ponder.

The offensive line played well at some points and struggled during others.  The quarterbacks were under pressure way too often for facing such an inferior opponent.  This type of inconsistency wil be a huge problem as we play better teams starting next week with Wake Forest. 

One play that I really liked was the second touchdown of the game.  It was a great wrinkle of the offense where Corey Surrency came off the line acting like he was going to block but instead took off down the field.  The rest of the team also sold the bubble screen to the slot receiver, and Ponder pump faked to the slot receiver.  Both DB's jumped the route and Surrency was wide open for a long TD.  It was a great play design, I just only wish we would have saved it for a more meaningful game.

On the other side of the ball, the defense put way more pressure on the opposing quarterback than they did last week.  Even though the pressure was improved, it still could be better.  Part of the problem is the weakness and lack of depth at the DT spots.  Hopefully, they can continue to improve against Wake Forest and then will get an added boost when players come back from suspension for the Colorado game.

Other problems again this week were dropping too many interceptions and not forcing enough turnovers.  Myron Rolle dropped a pick in the first half after it was tipped at the line by Moses McCray.  One forced turnover will not cut it on a weekly basis against stronger teams.  The one turnover was from a great hit from Kenny Ingram where he forced and recovered the fumble.

Tony Carter also made two bad plays.  The first came on Chattanooga's only TD.  It was a good route and throw.  Carter was beat which happens and is understandable.  With our defensive scheme, we play too much man coverage for our DB's to not get beat at times.  The WR's in college football now are too fast, too big, and/or too strong to play man coverage and not expect to get beat at least occasionally.  The problem with this particular play was that Carter misplayed the ball when he was beat, which allowed the receiver to make the catch and then take it in for the score.  The better play would have been for him to accept that he was beat and just try to make the tackle after the catch.  The second bad play he made was just a terrible decision.  He should never have tried to field a punt by diving.  FSU was fortunate to recover the ball, but this could have been very costly against a good team.

The injury to Graham Gano could be very, very costly, like maybe 2 losses.  The kickoffs have not been nearly as long as Gano's usually are, which will really hurt in close games where field position is important.  The punting also has not been as good, and of course, now we can not make a field goal.  It is possible that Gano would not do all three, but he would definitely be a better option at all three.  I would expect that he would at least handle the field goals and kick offs.

As mentioned before, these were just a few things that were immediately noticed and we will provide further analysis later.

 

FSUncensored's take on Noleblogger's take.

The wide receivers definitely dropped too many passes.  I didn't see this in the first game and I am going to attribute this to a lack of focus, probably caused by the antiicpation of the Wake gane.  The ball from D'Vo to Reed was insanely well thrown. 

I was very disappointed in our pass blocking.  If this keeps up, we will definitely be throwing more short stuff.  Expect us to run Ponder and D'Vo A LOT against Wake.  Greenlee is a nice story coming back from his neck injury, but he played like garbage today.  That needs to be fixed immediately.  If he is our best option, look out.

We previewed the "fake weakside toss, bubble pump, deep bomb" last week.  We saw it this week.  I agree with Noleblogger that he should have saved this play, but now Wake is in a bit of a bind.

I really liked how we got away from the bubble screen today and managed to work on other stuff.

On the other side of the ball, the defense put way more pressure on the opposing quarterback than they did last week.  Even though the pressure was improved, it still could be better.  Part of the problem is the weakness and lack of depth at the DT spots.  Hopefully, they can continue to improve against Wake Forest and then will get an added boost when players come back from suspension for the Colorado game._Nolesblogger

Agreed, but I would like to add something.  Moses McCray played an amazing game today.  For those of you who are unfamiliar, McCray is a state championship caliber wrestler, who is 6'3 285ish, at DT (Freshman).  Also, today we learned that Budd Thacker will be back for the wake game.  This is a huge upgrade for the 'Noles, and should put our DT depth issues to rest.

I am going to explode if I talk about our garbage secondary or special teams decisions.  They were very bad.

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With the exception of a blocked punt, Smurf and a few flashes of brilliance from D’vo, I’d say that this entire team was looking ahead to Wake. And I’ll even venture a cruise on the conspiracy boat… they may have been sloppy on purpose. We’ll see next Saturday.

by robrrt on Sep 14, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

That could be

I can’t really blame them. I had Tomahawk Nation looking forward.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 14, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hobby

Wow. I’ve never had less confidence in an FSU kicker, and that’s saying something.

by zest on Sep 14, 2008 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Scary

He needs to get it together.

One positive that could come from this: We would go on 4th down more frequently, which is often a better move mathemetically (See Bellichek, Bill, and Lombardi, Vince.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 14, 2008 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bert Reed's dropped TD

As FSUncensored pointed out it was a great throw by D’vo, but he also audible to that play. He read the coverage and changed Reed’s route to that corner corner route from the slot and had Cam Wade (I can’t remember if it was him on this play but I’m pretty sure it was) run about a 10 yard curl from out wide. It was a great decision and something that was very encouraging to see from D’vo in terms of his development.

by nolesblogger on Sep 14, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Encouraging

That’s encouraging to see.

On another note, he looked sloppy and indecisive today from what I saw. Too much dancing in the backfield. Read 2 or three and go.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 14, 2008 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

bad kicking

The kicking game is not where it wants to be by any means. But the thing that i saw in this game that gave me some concern was C Ponder. I mean every time he had a a passing play he was watching his receiver the entire time, he wasn’t scanning the field or looking at other receivers to fake out the defense, pull that crap against a better team and he will get picked off quite a bit. It is fundamental football as a QB to not stare at your intended receiver the whole play. Maybe i am seeing things wrong but as a defender he gives away to much info.

by ncnolefan on Sep 14, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

From where I was sitting it was hard to see if Ponder was doing this so I didn’t notice but if he was then I would definitely agree. Also, he did check down to the RB coming out of the backfield at times which leads to me to believe that he was at least scanning the field and going through his progressions on those plays.

by nolesblogger on Sep 14, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Staring down

NC,

did you notice him doing this on all routes, or more on the short stuff.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 14, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kicking

Could this be the return of Wide Right and Wide Left? We were really lucky to have cismesia the past few years. Why did we not have a solid kicker in waiting? Hopefully Gano gets better soon. Anyone know the story on his recovery and when he will play?

by FSUBrad on Sep 14, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Always room for improvement

The secondary was…well…not very good.

I noticed a bit of what ncnolefan pointed out about Ponder, but it seemed to me (and I didn’t watch the whole game start to finish) that he stared down his wideouts less and less as the game progressed.

The Noles were looking ahead, and hopefully get it together. Florida State is now ranked, 24th in the AP and 25th in the Coaches, for whatever that means.

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by Curtain Jerker on Sep 14, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Ponder and D'Vo

You can tell how much they develop as the game goes on. Both games, it’s been a little shaky at the beginning only to see both QBs gain confidence and start rolling. We can’t have that happen against Wake though…regardless of the outcome of next week, I really feel good about the direction of this program for the first time in quite a while.

by nacfsu on Sep 14, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Direction

I totally agree. This program finally feels like it is moving forward. While almost any coaching staff in America could have shown improvement over our previous administration, I don’t think this is simple progress. I think we have moved past the good stop and are shooting for excellent. As someone who usually evaluates things from a program perspective, this is very encouraging.

As for the QB’s, I think we saw why Ponder is the starter and D’Vo is the weapon: Consistency.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 15, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, the secondary

is very worrisome past the 1st string. They need to make big strides this week, especially with Skinner coming in. If Mangum sees the field, I worry that he’ll be picked on all night long.

by nacfsu on Sep 14, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

This whole secondary scares me.

I have something from someone that I will post someday. It is about our secondary. I don’t think the time is right, however, since we are winning right now.

We need to tackle and punish Wake’s wideouts. I think this is Myron Rolle’s game to really make a name for himself.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 15, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

ponder

ponder was staying focused on his target on the short routes on his intermediate and deep routes his scanning the field was good it’s just those short passing plays that he is just staring at who he is throwing to it worries me as in those situations it’s easy for a linebacker to pick one of those off. Although the kid is talented and this is me be a stickler and i would bet money if i saw it that some of the fsu staff did as well. also this was early in the game maybe as the games progress and his confidence goes up he will break that habit.

by ncnolefan on Sep 15, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

This is good stuff

and something we should all watch as a group. I’m not really concerned with him staring down the bubble, or the bubble off of opposite side play action. As you mentioned, we need to be very concerned if he stares down hook, bench, or out routes.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 15, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

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