Open GameThread & LiveBlog for Colorado Buffaloes at Florida St. Seminoles, Sep 27, 2008 3:30 PM EST
by Bud Elliott on Sep 27, 2008 2:30 AM EDT
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Colorado Buffaloes at Florida St. Seminoles, Sep 27, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
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- 9:45 AM: Nigel Bradham is in beast mode (updating his facebook from his blackberry).
- We're hearing that Greenlee is out at tackle, and Tonga is in. Okay, "source", you're on the spot here.
- 2:38 EST UPDATE: Ron Cherry is reffing this game. He is a bad referee. Hopefully none of our guys will get called for "giving him the business."
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Schedule for the Day
Game Time CDT Network
Saturday, September 27th (Printable Schedule w/ DirecTV channels)
Kent State at Ball State 11:00 a.m. ESPN-GP / ERTV
Maryland at Clemson 11:00 a.m. Raycom *3 (HD) / ESPN-GP *2
Michigan State at Indiana 11:00 a.m. ESPN (HD)
Minnesota at Ohio State 11:00 a.m. BTN (HD)
North Carolina at Miami 11:00 a.m. ESPN2 (HD)
Northern Illinois at Eastern Michigan 11:00 a.m. ESPN-GP / ERTV
Northwestern at Iowa 11:00 a.m. ESPN Classic
Pittsburgh at Syracuse 11:00 a.m. ALT / SNY / MASN / ERTV / ESPN-GP
UC Davis at Northeastern 11:00 a.m. CSNE / CSNW
Virginia at Duke 11:00 a.m. ESPNU (HD)
Army at Texas A&M 11:30 a.m. Versus
Ole Miss at Florida 11:30 a.m. Raycom *3 (HD) / ESPN-GP *2 / Yahoo
Arkansas at Texas 2:30 p.m. ABC / ESPN-GP *2
Cincinnati at Akron 2:30 p.m. FSOH (Zones 1 & 7) / ESPN-GP *2
Colorado vs. Florida State (Jacksonville) 2:30 p.m. (ABC / ESPN) *7 (HD) / ESPN-GP *2
Florida A&M vs. Tennessee State 2:30 p.m. Versus
Fresno State at UCLA 2:30 p.m. ABC / ESPN-GP *2
Houston at East Carolina 2:30 p.m. CBSC
Idaho State at Eastern Washington 2:30 p.m. ALT
Marshall at West Virginia 2:30 p.m. MASN / ERTV / ESPN-GP
Morgan State at Rutgers 2:30 p.m. SNY / ERTV / ESPN-GP
Purdue at Notre Dame 2:30 p.m. NBC (HD)
Tennessee at Auburn 2:30 p.m. CBS (HD) / sportline.com
Wisconsin at Michigan 2:30 p.m. (ESPN / ABC) *7 (HD)
Navy at Wake Forest 2:45 p.m. ESPNU (HD)
Bowling Green at Wyoming 3:00 p.m. MTN
Prairie View A&M at Morehouse 4:00 p.m. CSNB / FSPT
Colorado State at California 5:00 p.m. CSNW
Lehigh at Princeton 5:00 p.m. FSPI / FCS Central (cable)
Oregon at Washington State 5:15 p.m. FSNW / FCS Pacific (cable) / DirecTV 617?
TCU at Oklahoma 6:00 p.m. FSN (HD)
UAB at South Carolina 6:00 p.m. ESPN-GP *2 / PPV (SC)
Western Kentucky at Kentucky 6:00 p.m. WBKO & WKYT / ESPN-GP
Mississippi State at LSU 6:30 p.m. ESPN2 (HD)
South Florida at North Carolina State 6:30 p.m. ESPNU (HD)
Alabama at Georgia 6:45 p.m. ESPN (HD)
Central Florida at UTEP 7:00 p.m. CBSC
Illinois at Penn State 7:00 p.m. ABC (HD ) / ESPN-GP *2
New Mexico at New Mexico State 7:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / Aggie Vision / DirecTV – 699
Virginia Tech at Nebraska 7:00 p.m. ABC (HD) / ESPN-GP *2
Nevada at UNLV 9:00 p.m. MTN
Stanford at Washington 9:00 p.m. FSNW / FSW / FCS Pacific (cable)
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Clemson has 200 rushing yards in the 1st half
Wow.
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Something to keep an eye on...
Teams blitzing Tebow from one side to dictate which way they move.
Miami did it. Ole Miss is doing it today.
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Action for the day (33-32 on the year, 50.7%) (Entertainment Purposes Only)
Kent State + 21.5 at Ball State
Michigan State at Indiana +8.5
Minnesota at Ohio State -19
Northern Illinois -6 at Eastern Michigan
Northwestern at Iowa -7
Pittsburgh at Syracuse +14.5
Virginia at Duke -6
Army +27.5 at Texas A&M, under 43
Ole Miss +23 at Florida UNDER 49
Arkansas at Texas -27
Cincinnati at Akron +11.5
Colorado vs. Florida State (Jacksonville) -5.5
Fresno State at UCLA +7.5
Houston +11.5 at East Carolina, OVER 61
Purdue at Notre Dame -1
Tennessee +7 at Auburn
Wisconsin at Michigan +6
Navy +17 at Wake Forest
Bowling Green at Wyoming +4
Colorado State at California +26.5
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At half,
Kent State looking perilous
Indiana is good
OSU rolling
NIU is racking EMU
Iowa up one, a TD will cover for us.
SYRACUSE! this game is over.
Duke up 17-3, excellent.
Army looking great. The under will be close.
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Ole Miss and Under working as well.
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Early thoughts from Tuscaloosa, in my living room.
Listened to the great Larry Munson
We just stepped on their face with a hobnailed boot and broke their nose!
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For those of you who are on rivals...
New lyrics to the Georgia song..
“Born in the backwoods, raised by a bear.
Double cut of buck teeth, double tuft o hair.”
Uh-oh, I don’t see, Gillig anywhere.
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I'm watching Miami now.
They are throwing a lot of quick stuff to the wideouts as UNC plays off.
Miami’s offensive line looks good early as well.
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Miami drives down the field to open the game.
They looked really, really good there.
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by Bud Elliott on Sep 27, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Miami's D gets the three and out
but there were definitely open men all over.
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by Bud Elliott on Sep 27, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
This game has looked very even so far
The main difference is the dropped punt snap. Punters are so eh.
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by Bud Elliott on Sep 27, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe 360 is available to those who have
Verizon and someone else. It is definitely NOT comcast.
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by Bud Elliott on Sep 27, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Greeat thow by UNC to the corner,
and MIAMI goes down!
Great home field advantage.
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Parker
Not entirely… Jimbo will try to get the ball in Parker’s hands very often with many different looks to try to get matchups. If Parker is lined up on a LB than thats a matchup he’ll win a vast majority of the time.
by nolesblogger on Sep 27, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Will probably be more defined. I don’t like it, I’d rather have him play everything.
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Update on the UF Game
Ole Miss 31 Florida 24 with just over 5 to play… as Uncensored pointed out earlier, Ole Miss has been blitzing Tebow with success
Great Series for the D
Two sacks, forced fumble, fumble recovery… pending the review
Couldn’t have started off any better
Drive Summary: 4 plays, 27 yards
1st-10, Colo27 A. Smith rushed up the middle for 11 yard gain
1st-10, Colo16 A. Smith rushed to the left for 5 yard gain
1st-10, Colo11 A. Smith rushed to the right for 9 yard gain
1st-2, Colo2 A. Smith rushed up the middle for 2 yard touchdown. G. Gano made PAT
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3rd carry in a row for 10 yards… 1st and goal
by nolesblogger on Sep 27, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
what are your thoughts on mickey andrews?
I’m a bit ambivalent.
by andy_wooster on Sep 27, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
2nd down and 7. shotgun. Ponder drills a ball to parker over the middle, good coverage, dropped.
3rd and 7.
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Kind of like that call
Don’t try to do too much with a new qb.
3rd n 5, excellent coverage by jenijie
could have easily committed PI.
hawkins has no arm.
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FSU starts at their own 35. Ponder throws the ball to caz, he's past the LOS, BUT NOT CALLED
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3rd n 6, trips, motion right
Ponder throws for 4 to Caz. stayed in pocket. We should go.
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we will go. 4th n 1 from the Colorado 43.
Jermiane Thomas off tackle. Nice block Zebrie!!!
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on 1st down, from the Colorado 40, Gregg Carr false starts. we were going deep.
Damnit.
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2nd and 4, Run up the gut by Thomas for 6, but
fumbles though, Colroado recovers at Colorado 27,
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Good grief, Wake beats Miss, Miss Beats Florida, so I'm thinking sweet
and then down to Navy?! They need to win bad.
Ponder incomplete roll out right, not a pretty ball, but not off targe
parker needed to catch it. but throw was late.
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1st n 10, Jamie Robsinson picks ball on rub route. Poor throw, joint possession almost.
Picked nonetheless
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Ponder pass batted, ponder catches pass, ponder rushes forward, bobbling ball, DT ctaches ball for INT.
WOW. Never seen something like that.
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3rd n 8 from the 10.
Incomplete, drilled, too hard, would have been killed.
OUR PRESSURE IS HUGE.
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YES! Good stuff. But Bad Field Position
Lets go Ponder, no harm no foul
3rd down n 8. shotgun 2 back look.
Ponder drills fortson on a square in. stood in pocket. pass slightly behind. 16 yards, first down.
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4th n 3, delay of game (on purpose) for punt.
Punt coverage is average, Colorado to CU 18. (punt was to 10). 7-7, timeout.
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J. Thomas looking good?
Besides the fumble of course
2nd n 10.
line needs to get pressure.
Nice job by mincey knifing through to disrupt play.
no gan. 3rd n 10
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3rd n 11, excuse me.
shotgun, blitz comes, obvious holding (blitz up middle), incomplete, nowhere close.
Good defensive series.
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Flip the field position
Get a drive, I think we’re building confidence
1st n 10
carr pass was a 1d.
Incomplete, fortson ran a wrong route. Carr ran a comeback, Ponder threw an out.
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I think I'll take Ponder's word over Fortson's or Carrs
He prolly knows the playbook a little later.
YES TD
He looked very very fast.
good bloicking by the wideouts as well.
This line is firing off the ball, and antone is running like I have never seen him. driving his legs, delivering contact.
no more first time roller blader stuff.
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ANTONE SMITH 10 Carries 101 Yards 10.1 YPC 2 TDs
Player of the game in the first half?
we called to, 2nd n 9, myron makes tackle on quick pass to wr, another to, 3rd n 10 coming.
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1st n 10, 4 wide, Ponder to carr on stop,
carr catches it for 8, shakes for 3, first down!
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2nd n 11, from CU 13
GREAT throw to easterling GREAT throw. have to see this. easterling couldn’t get get foot down.
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good half of blogging
Ponder’s misses: mostly his fault? I know you said there was at least one drop.
I don't want to comment totally until I review the tape in slow mo, but
One was forston running a wrong route
One was batted down (the “pick” where he caught it and then fumbled, counts as a pick)
One was a middle screen that never developed and he drilled into the ground
One was a drop.
One was a BEAUTIFUL ball to easterling in end zone, which was caught but easterling couldn’t get foot down
One was the 3rd n 16 before half, ball into end zone drilled.
That’s 6 that weren’t bad throws or bad reeds, of the top of my head.
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thanks
That does make me feel better about 5-15.
by andy_wooster on Sep 27, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll do the breakdown again tomorrow if I can.
It’s important to classify the misses.
There are also such things as bad makes.
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Defense
Very concerned about pass defense — we SHOULD have given up 21-plus points that half — WIDE OPEN receivers past our deepest defender. Harper/Tebow/etc. won’t miss those receivers.
This is true.
I told you guys, our d wasn’t as good as it showed last game, and the O wasn’t as bad.
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Q? on O-Line
Who is in at O-Line? Are we starting 2 True Freshman?
LT DATKO, TRUE FROSH
LG HUDSON, TRUE SOPH
C MCMAHON, RS SOPH
RG, FURLONG, RS FR
RT ZEBRIE SANDERS, TRUE FROSH (also a concert cellist and eagle scout)
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Doc,
competition is a GREAT THING.
These old guys know they have to push themselves or lose their spots.
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it’s crazy to think that barring any serious injuries, FSU could have two four-year starters and three three-year starters on the line.
by andy_wooster on Sep 27, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
On 90% of the carries,
it was the LINE. They are using their quickness a lot. Not trying to drive block, but we are using angles, leverage, and quicks.
The Antone run was special, he did a shake to draw the defender into the blocker.
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Seems like a lot of guys
are calling for D’vo to start 2nd half.
I do have to admit though, 5-15 sounds really bad. D’vo would almost half to be an upgrade. Thoughts?
a lot of guys look only at the 5-15
Here were his misses.
One was forston running a wrong route
One was batted down (the "pick" where he caught it and then fumbled, counts as a pick)
One was a middle screen that never developed and he drilled into the ground
One was a drop.
One was a BEAUTIFUL ball to easterling in end zone, which was caught but easterling couldn’t get foot down
One was the 3rd n 16 before half, ball into end zone drilled.
That’s 6 that weren’t bad throws or bad reeds, of the top of my head.
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Sometimes the stats lie.
Goes to show you.
I hope we start rolling during the 2nd half.
First half stats (defense)
Watson polaying like a beat, 5 tackles w/ punt block.
Nicholson 4 tackles.
rolle 4 tackles (PLAYING GREAT, 3 GREAT OPEN FIELD TACKLES),
brown 1 sack, 3 tackles, lots of double teams.
Jamie robinson with the pick.
we do need paul griffin back, mincey playing undisciplined.
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on 2nd n 6, we have BAD hold on the edge, not called, but
Ponder Play fake and hits carr on an eh throw, but first down.
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On the Bright Side:
A. Smith 14 Attempts for 122 yards, 8.7 ypc 2 TDs
I'm against this. seriously. he drilled it, but ugh. we didnt handle that well AT ALL.
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Doc, it looked disjointed
we got hosed on the spot, and then tried to drive block.
welcome to FSU08 football: running the stretch play to get 1 yard.
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THEY'RE PUNTING!!!!!
Yes! Hawkins doesn’t understand expected point values!
Punt to the 19 or 18
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YES! Arkansas Texas was so bad they switched, I'm watching now
Will chekc in periodically
Okay, update
Robinson (Prob) is injured
Tony Carter and Verdell both out for game with groins
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Great fake reverse, end around on 1st n 10 to parker
this looks like the play we fumbled before. Parker gets 13ish. 1st n 10 good blocking by fortson
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LOL
I actually facebooked Christian and gave him some advice on leadership and making bad decisions and staying calm. lol
ball security has always been an issue
for Preston.
by andy_wooster on Sep 27, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
on 2nd n 7,
Ponder bobbles snap slightly, throws timing off a bit, is off his back foot, and he still lau nches it 50 yards to the end zone, over defender, surrency almost auls it in
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on 3rd n 7,
Ponder stays in the pocket, is hit some, but still hits easterling 20 yards in the air, and earterling to the 11.
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Drive Summary: 8 plays, 81 yards
1st-10, Colo19 R. Stewart rushed up the middle for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, Colo22 C. Hawkins passed to J. Smith down the middle for 8 yard gain. FLSt committed 15 yard penalty
1st-10, Colo45 C. Hawkins passed to J. Smith to the left for 13 yard gain
1st-10, FLSt43 R. Stewart rushed to the left for 2 yard gain
2nd-8, FLSt41 R. Stewart rushed to the right for 14 yard gain
1st-10, FLSt27 C. Hawkins passed to R. Geer to the right for 20 yard gain
1st-7, FLSt7 R. Stewart rushed to the right for 4 yard loss. FLSt committed 10 yard penalty
1st-1, FLSt1 C. Hawkins passed to R. Geer to the right for 1 yard touchdown. A. Goodman made PAT
I said
honestly, we don’t like him at all
he consistently messes up and gets burnt.
we are shocked he did that. seriously.
for the record: he was on the olympic 4X100 team in beijing. you’re not slow, he is just amazingly fast, and up until this point in his career, has always sucked.
wow
I was just thinking about the kickoff returned that Garvin had that would’ve tied the score against UF in 2006 except he stepped out of bounds around midfield.
Its funny how the annoucers keep raving about our defense
I think its been a lot of luck imho
4th n 7, we have another pass interference on myron rolle, on another post route
this one is less obvious.
where do the first round projections come from?
My guess is that he is seen as being similar to Roy Williams, who is also poor in coverage.
by andy_wooster on Sep 27, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
2nd n 10 at 44.
Play action, almost sacked, throw off back foot, great throw though, to Caz, on cross route, caz trucks a guy and gets a great block for 12 yards, first down!
2nd n 7,
Ponder running option,
defendive holding called.
honestly, we had a chop, a hold, a facemask, and a horsecollar here.
2nd n goal from 4,
Surrat and caz great blocks!!!
smith nifty one cut and go move!
datko holding his block!
TD FSUUUU!!!!
Florida St. – 9:31
1st-10, FLSt20 9:31 C. Ponder rushed to the right for 8 yard gain
2nd-2, FLSt28 9:11 A. Smith rushed up the middle for 3 yard gain
1st-10, FLSt31 8:43 A. Smith rushed up the middle for 1 yard gain
2nd-9, FLSt45 8:00 C. Ponder passed to C. Piurowski down the middle for 9 yard gain
1st-10, Colo46 7:30 A. Smith rushed to the left for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, Colo38 7:11 C. Ponder rushed to the left for 14 yard gain
1st-10, Colo24 6:00 A. Smith rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
2nd-6, Colo12 5:00 A. Smith rushed up the middle for 7 yard gain
1st-5, Colo5 4:44 A. Smith rushed up the middle for 3 yard gain
2nd-2, Colo2 4:00 A. Smith rushed to the left for 2 yard touchdown. G. Gano made PAT
agreed
Enjoyed the live blog. Look forward to reading the recaps. Bring on Miami!
by andy_wooster on Sep 27, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to have to spread the word
this was great for people that can’t watch, and its very very helpful to have someone that can directly answer questions/not having to hit F5 for updates.
I really appreciate it
Its really hard getting people to actually call the game and say whats going on, even in the WC chat. The live blog updates are slow and the gametracker usually updates way faster than they post. Plus the people say crap like “NOOOOOOOOOOOO!” without posting what the hell is going on. So its very frustrating trying to make out what is happening in the game. So I really do appreciate you doing this and I will definitely be here for every game that you’re doing.
Ponder's misses:
One was forston running a wrong route
One was batted down (the “pick” where he caught it and then fumbled, counts as a pick)
One was a middle screen that never developed and he drilled into the ground
One was a drop.
One was a BEAUTIFUL ball to easterling in end zone, which was caught but easterling couldn’t get foot down
One was the 3rd n 16 before half, ball into end zone drilled.
in the second half, we had one more drop.
out of the 12 misses, thats my read on 7 of them.
I'm hoping
that we can get this thing rolling. Ponder is able to get his completions up. I’d have really liked to see D’Vontrey, but I’m sure we haven’t seen the last of him,
Rushing, wow, 259 yards
Has anyone seen antone run like that ever?
and how bad is COL on defense?
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