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Duke Blue Devils @ Florida St. Seminoles


So here is the game thread. Check out the preview below in the post below.

Well...we had them...we fell asleep for a while...and then we came charging back to lose by 8. A good showing against an excellent team. We held Duke to their lowest point total of the year and forced 17 documented turnovers. We only had 14. Teams are not going to look forward to playing us. I think this is pretty characteristic of how many of our games against Duke and the like will go. Gotta love the effort...just need to hit some more shots...31% won't cut it. Many of you commented on the officiating in the game. Duke had 39 free throws to our 14. Granted, this is a skewed number as we fouled a lot in the last 2 minutes.

Star-divide

Let's see if a sold out Tucker Center can help the Noles knock off one of the top teams in the country.

What are your thoughts on the game.

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KENPOM Projects ACC record

Duke 14-2
UNC 12-4
Clemson 12-4
Wake 11-5
Miami 9-7
Maryland 7-9
BC 7-9
FSU 5-11
VT 5-11
NCST 5-11
UVA 5-11
GT 3-14

Should be interesting. Damn Maryland

Tomahawk Nation: No-Holds-Barred Nole Analysis

by FSUncensored on Jan 10, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Starting Lineups

For Duke:
PG Nolan Smith
SG Jon Scheyer
SF Gerald Henderson
PF Kyle Singler
C Brian Zoubek

Noles
PG Toney Douglas
SG Jordan Demercy
SF Chris Singleton
PF Ryan Reid
C Solomon Alabi

Tomahawk Nation: No-Holds-Barred Nole Analysis

by FSUncensored on Jan 10, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like the crowd

Our goal is simple: Best in the land

Kill a fly with an ax

by FSUStateOfMind on Jan 10, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1st time i saw FSU all season. Their defense looks impressive WOW

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:19 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i wish i knew their offense was this bad tho

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

solomon!!!!

hellz yeah

(insert that picture)

Our goal is simple: Best in the land

Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews

by FSUStateOfMind on Jan 10, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

singleton is a BEAST

Our goal is simple: Best in the land

Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews

by FSUStateOfMind on Jan 10, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

amazing holding duke to 5 thus far wow

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lmao lmao what a joke palus is

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2-3 Zone by FSU on the OOB play

Turnover on Duke!

Alibi is having a big impact so far.

The late start gave our drunk fans the opportunity to actually be at the game on time…

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by FSUncensored on Jan 10, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The strategy should be...

Zone, as soon as McClure is in the game. Sag on him in the zone and play aggressively on everyone else. McClure is the weak link and he won’t shoot. We NEED to Zone whenever he is in the game….that is the correct play!

by Zach_Nole on Jan 10, 2009 2:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow..alabi is a complete beast. This is the first time I have been able to see this team this year!

by DOT COM on Jan 10, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FSU not gonna be leading for long if they don’t stop playing 1 on 5 for offense

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

way to just throw the ball at the backboard, Greg P.

Alabi is changing this game

Our goal is simple: Best in the land

Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews

by FSUStateOfMind on Jan 10, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mike Patrick

Argh.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need to make those easy shots!

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice job Singleton!

DeMercy has missed about 3 straight point blank shots

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We're playing hard especially on defense and the boards but

We won’t win if we don’t shoot the ball well, because Duke will make some shots.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

clank clank clank clank

Our goal is simple: Best in the land

Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews

by FSUStateOfMind on Jan 10, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We're falling apart

Awful defense.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Loucks needs to sit

He is having a Northwestern type game

by Zach_Nole on Jan 10, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why

didnt he just pull up and shoot?

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like the 'we want paulus' chant

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:42 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, where is the up and down call???

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:42 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WE MADE A LAYUP

Our goal is simple: Best in the land

Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews

by FSUStateOfMind on Jan 10, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"What a sloppy ball game."

Did the announcers do any research?

by TBfisherman on Jan 10, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Travel on Henderson wtf are they looking at

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhat

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Backbreaker

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

$@%$@#$# are you kidding

Our goal is simple: Best in the land

Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews

by FSUStateOfMind on Jan 10, 2009 2:45 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel like I'm at the game ;-)

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad shot

Too far of a deep three.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game is just so hard to watch

With our offensive play and these refs. At least it isn’t in Cameron.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol i know

as an independent game watcher haha , i agree

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoa

We scored 19 in the 1st half vs La Salle?

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alabi has 8 rebounds

Nice effort by Singleton getting the tie-up.

Our ball.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice bailout there ,phew

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nevermind wow

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta make those

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kitchen dribbling with his head down is amazin

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What was Kitchen doing there?

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

besides

playing baskets like a 10 year old where u dribble with your head down and don’t look for the open man?

by Cee on Jan 10, 2009 2:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The guy oon the arrow is gonna get carple tunnel syndrome

Pretty good line there by Bilas.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Best chant ever

“we’re getting screwed! we’re getting screwed!”

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What??? R U kidding?? brutal call

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need to finish the half strong

Cut it to a one possession game.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good apss and good shot

I thought it was going down.

Come on Uche.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Slow down! Last shot!

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Duke will get a 3 out of this bad call

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was ESPN's video feed breaking up for you guys too?

It’s back to working again. Maybe it was just the one overhead camera.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guess this won't be another 96-95 thriller

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

19-14 at half. WOW.

Nobody in serious foul trouble.

2 of 18 shots? We have to get slightly luckier in the 2h.

Our defense is sick. If we can play with this intensity every game, wow. Now, that doesn’t happen under Hamilton, but defense doesn’t usually take the night off.

Tomahawk Nation: No-Holds-Barred Nole Analysis

by FSUncensored on Jan 10, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd like to say that if we keep up the defense and just shoot a bit better we will be fine

But you know Duke is going to play much better in the 2nd half. They’ll score much better and will probably score in the mid 50s or maybe even reach 60.

We need to score much better in the 2nd half.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somewhat agree, but 5 of Duke's 19

were really wild. The crazy 3 and the poor goaltending call. Thats what, 26% of their points?

Tomahawk Nation: No-Holds-Barred Nole Analysis

by FSUncensored on Jan 10, 2009 3:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, but considering how poorly they played

You know they’ll play much better in the 2nd half. I can only imagine what coach K is saying to them now. They’re gonna come out like the #2 team in the nation, and we need to be ready.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Think we score 40 points?

I think we’ll end up with like 48.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:14 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our athleticism is noticeable. We can pressure every shot and are effective in both man to man and 2/3 zone

because of our length and energy. But the erratic play is leaking too much on offense. We need some polish there. Maybe we should just focus on our size advantage and go to some kind of “jump-ball” basketball analog for our O strategy

by CaStauch on Jan 10, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not much of a hoops fan

But I watched the first half in its entirety.

And I must say, it has a very similar feel to watching an FSU football when Jeff Bowden was offensive coordinator. I mean, no matter how hard we play (and we’re playing damned hard) and no matter how good our defense is (and it’s suffocating ) and no matter how well we rebound (and we are crashing the glass, esp. on the offensiive end) ……. if you basically don’t have a set play, how can you beat great teams. I mean, I didn’t even see a guard hold up fingers to call a play or anything?

Am I missing something?

by Fsued on Jan 10, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's my impression of the game as well

I watch FSU basketball when I can, which is not often, so I see 2-3 games each year maybe, and it always seems to have this feel.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Motion offense ...

….brought to you by the makers of the Rainbow Offense???

by Fsued on Jan 10, 2009 3:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Essentially. We do have a chance to improve as the season goes on.

Ken Pomeroy is a really smart guy and he has Duke’s defense as the best in the Nation by a huge margin. Just keep that in mind.

Tomahawk Nation: No-Holds-Barred Nole Analysis

by FSUncensored on Jan 10, 2009 3:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What was the rainbow offense anyway

Is that just a nickname for JB’s style or was it actually a scheme he came up with?

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's reactionary based off of the defenders positions and movements

The problem is, we don’t have good movement off the ball. It’s not to the basket, there are no decisive runs, everyone is flexing out too easily.

We’re long and tall, but not thick. Duke is pressuring and moving us off our spots too easily

by CaStauch on Jan 10, 2009 3:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

14 offensive boards and 6 second chance points?

We should have more.

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Jan 10, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a sloppy game

so far. I like that we held duke to 19 points, but we only have 14. If we can just get our offense straightened out we have a good chance today!

by fsunole23 on Jan 10, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uhhhhhhhhhh I'm sorry what?

Offensive foul? Are you kidding me??

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2