NFL Playoffs Open Thread
Talk NFL here. I know this is an FSU site, but if you see anything we should do, fire away.
AFC Preview: http://footballoutsiders.com/game-previews/2009/2009-afc-divisional-preview
NFC preview http://footballoutsiders.com/game-previews/2009/2009-nfc-divisional-preview
X & O's NFL Films guy: http://footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2009/walkthrough-momentum (blitz schemes)
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Kerry Collins leads the Titans on to the field for their first home playoff game in years.
Vince Young silently weeps on the sideline and cuts himself.
by MattDNole on
Jan 10, 2009 4:37 PM EST
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I love watching the Ravens D play
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 4:38 PM EST
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Check that last link, pretty awesome
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 4:39 PM EST
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yeah that's pretty awesome
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 4:41 PM EST
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FSUnC - What is over/under on number of field goals this game?
There is a reason they call it the NFGL.
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 4:39 PM EST
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I don't understand trap blocking a pass play without any trap run action...
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 4:43 PM EST
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Many backers will move off the offensive line movement...particularly the Mike back...some DTs are also taught to chase O-line as they pull...
So you can show trap up front without having any playaction in the back field.
by TrueCubbie on
Jan 10, 2009 4:47 PM EST
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Make sense... though FSU is tought to kep the neutral back...
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 4:48 PM EST
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True...it all depends on your defensive scheme...our backers are athletic enough to not play off line play and react to the overall play. A lot of line backers will use the lines movement to dictate their initial step.
With trap blocking on the pass you hope to get the backers moving laterally before dropping into their passing lanes. Gives you an extra step or pulls the backer into a bad spot and you replace him in what was his previous area of responsibility or you get a better position on man-man D because he starts out of position.
by TrueCubbie on
Jan 10, 2009 4:51 PM EST
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Cool numbers.. we will do this next year (get everyone to watch tape and chart)
As for the passing game, Joe Flacco is not going to struggle as much as you might think on Saturday. The reason why has to do with the Titans’ tendencies on defense: specifically, the fact that they almost never blitz. Tennessee sent five or more rushers on only 17 percent of pass attempts this season, the second-lowest total in football. That is good news for Flacco, whose biggest weakness remains his struggles with successfully identifying blitz schemes pre-snap and adjusting his pass protection accordingly. With the Titans only sending the front four most of the time, Dr. Flacco won’t have to do much on-the-fly diagnosing. While Tennessee will dial up the occasional blitz, run many a twist, and move their four linemen around to try and isolate advantageous matchups, it’ll be far easier for Flacco to handle than the sort of blitzes he could expect from his own defense. It’ll be interesting to see if Schwartz comes out of his comfort zone and blitzes more frequently. According to our game charters, he’ll need to send a big blitz: Flacco actually has reasonable numbers against five pass rushers, but he averaged just 4.2 yards per play against six pass rushers, with only seven of 29 plays meeting our basic standard for success. Meanwhile you can expect to see the Ravens cut blocking on the outside — and maybe also against Haynesworth, who’s recovering from a sprained MCL.
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 4:45 PM EST
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what is the over/under
i think there will be a lot of 3 and outs
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 4:47 PM EST
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ravens have 2 HOF playing rite now
reed and lewis would be in the HOF if their careers ended today (knock on wood)
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 4:48 PM EST
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Not having Mawae wil hurt the titans as the game goes on...
by TrueCubbie on
Jan 10, 2009 4:48 PM EST
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Tannen on the Center situation
The other big concern for the Titans on the offensive line is the absence of center Kevin Mawae, who’s been ruled out for the game with an elbow injury. Second-year man Leroy Harris will take his place; Harris is one of the league’s stronger centers, but he’s not particularly agile. Expect the Ravens to come at him with blitzes through the A-gaps on either side of him, while nose tackle Justin Bannan will attempt to use his superior athleticism to get by the inexperienced center. The Titans will likely counter this with screens to Chris Johnson, while the Ravens will counter-act that by pushing Ed Reed closer to the line … it’s a vicious, gorgeous cycle of football.
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 4:50 PM EST
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I love it...great analysis.
You’re center has to be able to move and have great feet.
by TrueCubbie on
Jan 10, 2009 4:51 PM EST
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rolle??
come on man!! rep FSU just kidding
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 4:51 PM EST
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Lendall hasn't had a TD run over like 4 yards
in his WHOLE CAREER
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Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 4:58 PM EST
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I was at the 2005 Rose Bowl when he couldn't get a yard on 4th down.
How someone that big could come up so small is beyond me.
by MattDNole on
Jan 10, 2009 4:59 PM EST
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So I met this girl at the Bama/ Clemson game.
Her dad has a box at the Titans stadium. Pretty sweet times.
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 4:52 PM EST
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he is nice!!!
get rid of fatass and sign this kid up for a long time
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 4:53 PM EST
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Already a touchdown
the first quarter hasn’t even ended yet!!
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 4:53 PM EST
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hahahahah look at that offsides
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 4:54 PM EST
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does thatg say amato??
on that titans jersey??
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 4:54 PM EST
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Yes it did.
And I was that player to tear an ACL.
by MattDNole on
Jan 10, 2009 4:55 PM EST
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maybe is CTC
thats why he has been so busy’
he is making some extar dough on the side holdign kicks
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 4:56 PM EST
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man I hope AC balls out
and the Chargers lose
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 4:57 PM EST
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Jim Schwarz- best coach in NFL on any level- outside of Belichek
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:01 PM EST
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who would put in the NFl HOF
if their careers ended today?
I got
Brady
FAvre
Manning
Tomlinson
Lewis
Reed
Faneca
Walter Jones
Moss
Holt
MArvin HArrison
Orlando Pace
Ty Law
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:02 PM EST
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I would put Dunn... but I'm biased.
by MattDNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:03 PM EST
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forgot Brooks and Zach thomas
no doubt
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:04 PM EST
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Dunn is in my HOF
but his numbers are not that great.
As a person the HOF should be named after him
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:08 PM EST
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maybe
rodney harrison
adam vinetiari
isaac bruce
joey porter
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:03 PM EST
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Black pants and white top make the ravens look fat
Imagine Lendale in that look?
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:05 PM EST
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From the 3rd link: Ravens Blitz #1

Figure 1 shows the Ravens blitz which caused the interception Ed Reed returned for a touchdown. It’s 3rd-and-long, so the Ravens only use two down linemen: Haloti Ngata (92) and Trevor Pryce (90). Their pre-snap alignment suggests an overload blitz, with Terrell Suggs (55) and Bart Scott (57) threatening the offensive right side, but the Dolphins cannot take any chances with Ray Lewis aligned on the left. Both Ronnie Brown and Anthony Fasano stay in to block on this play. Unfortunately, even seven-man protection isn’t adequate.
Ngata is a containment defender on this play. He crosses the left guard’s face and loops around the left tackle; his goal is to occupy blockers, not to generate a rush. Pryce and Suggs attack the inside shoulders of the right guard and tackle. They are also trying to eat up offensive linemen. The real pressure comes from three defenders attacking the offensive right: Scott, linebacker Jameel McClain (53), and safety Jim Leonhard (36). Their blitz is well coordinated, with McClain taking a direct angle toward Chad Pennington while Scott and Leonhard work wide. Even with Fasano and Brown sliding right, the Dolphins don’t have enough bodies to handle this overload blitz.
What’s interesting is that it’s hard to determine which Ravens player has man coverage responsibility on Fasano. Lewis is assigned to Brown, and he lingers in the middle of the field on clean-up duty once he sees Brown stay in to block. The corners man up on the wide receivers (not shown), while Corey Ivy covers split H-back Patrick Cobbs. Leonhard or Scott could have been assigned to Fasano, but neither hesitates on his blitz, so it doesn’t seem that either is worried about the tight end running a pass route. There are several possibilities: 1) Scott or Leonhard picked something up pre-snap, then charged in; 2) Reed has Fasano, though it sure looks like he’s playing center field; or 3) Rex Ryan knew the Dolphins tendencies so well that he didn’t feel the need to cover Fasano in the backfield on 3rd-and-long. In any case, the coverage matched the situation perfectly, leaving Pennington with too few blockers and too few receivers.
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:07 PM EST
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Flacco and Ryan
are gonna be quality QBs for a long time
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:09 PM EST
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ACC QB's= automatic success.
No conference is more like the NFL
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:09 PM EST
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which is why our defense would work in the NFL
but it sucks in the new age offense in college
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:11 PM EST
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not saying it would be effective or stop anybody
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:11 PM EST
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just that it is based in that style of play
think about how good we would be if we played in the big 10
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:11 PM EST
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Delaware?? are you serious??
how this kid did not get recruited big time??
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:10 PM EST
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helmets sure look similar
is that true??
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:14 PM EST
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He was a transfer from somewhere, just can't remember if it was Michigan.
by MattDNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:15 PM EST
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He originally went to Pitt.
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 5:25 PM EST
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I think Delaware gets a lot of D-I transfers
In 2003 they won the FCS title (D I-AA at the time). They had quite a number of ex-D I’ers and rolled through everyone. All the guys wanted to play immediately after transfer I suppose and Delaware picked them up. Their QB, Andy Hall (formerly GTech), was drafted in the 4th round by the Eagles and fizzled out to Arena Ball. They had another DE (formerly Duke or UNC) that was just whipping around the undersized lines in the playoffs.
by NOLEinTX on
Jan 10, 2009 5:27 PM EST
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he almsot stiffed Reed
wow this kid is for real
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:12 PM EST
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any soccer fans here??
or is that a dumb question on a football board??
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:15 PM EST
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a white player on defense??
i keed i keed
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:17 PM EST
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Dear Mickey Andrews
In a well-designed blitz, each player has a clear role.
I’d love to see us have better designed blitzes
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:19 PM EST
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A blitz I wish we would have used for Myron Rolle...

Figure 2 shows a blitz the Eagles used to force a fumble in the third quarter against the Vikings. There are two interesting things about the Eagles personnel package. First, Brian Dawkins is essentially playing as the Sam (strong side) linebacker. Second, the Eagles have four defensive ends on the field: Trent Cole (58), Darren Howard (90), Juqua Parker (75) and Chris Clemons (91). Howard officially lists as a tackle this year, but he was an end early in his career, so this package is similar to the Four Aces line the Giants used last year. It gives the Eagles exceptional athleticism on the defensive line, making Jimmy Johnson’s blitzes even more effective.
In a well-designed blitz, each player has a clear role. Here, Cole and Clemons take the tackles wide to create room and take away Tarvaris Jackson’s ability to roll right or left. Parker is a clean-up defender, on the prowl for a scramble, screen, or draw. Linebacker Akeem Jordan (56) is a sacrificial lamb; he slams directly into the left guard to keep him busy. This blitz is designed to give Dawkins a free shot at the quarterback.
Dawkins does come free, but there’s an added bonus. Howard’s assignment is to attack Matt Birk’s inside shoulder so the Vikings cannot slide protection to that side. Howard beats Birk off the snap, and thanks to Jordan, there’s no guard on the left side to help the center. Howard and Dawkins arrive at about the same time to strip Jackson, who pounces on the football for a significant loss.
Clemons has been a major factor for the Eagles in the final weeks of the season. When they use this four-end package against the Giants, they’ll be giving the champs a taste of their own medicine.
Myron could have subbed for Dawkins here.
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:22 PM EST
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Would he be required to arrive half a second late on blitzes as well?
by MattDNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:24 PM EST
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Football Outsiders + Smart Football
FSUnC, maybe add them to suggested reading?
Smart Football is GREAT now he is posting a lot (for him).
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 5:26 PM EST
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As a former offensive tackle, I can vouch that
you feel like you’ve been had when a team designs one of these for you.
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:30 PM EST
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I hate how whenever we blitz we show it and just rush with a lot of 1 on 1s
We don’t disguise it at all. And we never back out.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 5:24 PM EST
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1-1 matchups are nice. Andrews needs to put in more time studying film, however, so that he can find 1 on 0 matchups.
Unfortunately, his stated goal is to get 1-1 matchups. Ugh.
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:26 PM EST
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Like the second quote in my sig?
MA also states “Simplicity is the key to execution.”
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 5:28 PM EST
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That guy has been taking lessons from Graham Gano
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 5:26 PM EST
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Ray Lewis just killed a guy.
errr. another guy
by MattDNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:31 PM EST
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Nice job by the FB holding on to that.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 5:31 PM EST
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NFL Playoff football is so much better than the best college football, from a scheme standpoint
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:32 PM EST
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I strongly disagree
You find this game better than, say, Texas-Texas Tech? Alabama-Florida?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 5:33 PM EST
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From a scheme standpoint, yes
gameplay — no
IMO
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 5:34 PM EST
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i think he means strategies and schemes wise
not passion and rivalries
college football is king of that
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:34 PM EST
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well maybe only 2nd to soccer
in passion and rivalry
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:35 PM EST
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Excitement level, no. Scheme, yes.
NFL teams have 2-3X the time to work on what they will run.
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Jan 10, 2009 5:34 PM EST
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As far as scheme, what about watching team like WV or Florida or TT who use ununsual offenses
And seeing how defenses try to defend them.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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Jan 10, 2009 5:34 PM EST
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Those are fun as well,
but college schemes tend to be based on the premise that college defenders simply aren’t good enough to consistently stop elite athletes. They just get the 1-1 matchups and win ’em. Particularly when you have a running QB you need to defend.
NFL defenders WIN 1-1 matchups, so the scheming is much more important.
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:37 PM EST
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What did the Titans do wrong?
Ed Reed was trying to break Johnson in half.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 5:33 PM EST
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i love the intensity and passion
closest to college rivalries there is
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:33 PM EST
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If you can't beat'em, hurt'em
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 5:33 PM EST
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If you have TIvo go back to the 4 yard run 2 plays ago
and watch the crackback by 81 on Titans
by Zach_Nole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:38 PM EST
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Not one person in Tennessee (outside of Nashville) cares about the Titans.
Of course, they are Titans fans, but they love them some UT football
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Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 5:36 PM EST
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wow crumpler is huge!!
not necessarily in a good way
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:36 PM EST
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Collins had someone wide open short on that
No need to throw it up on a 1 on 2.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 5:42 PM EST
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Well, I guess it wasn't wide open
But the in route was somewhat open.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 5:42 PM EST
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Rolle
is Greg Reid watching? i hope so
by ChileanNole on
Jan 10, 2009 5:42 PM EST
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Samari Rolle
rep FSU
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Jan 10, 2009 5:42 PM EST
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Anyone have any ideas for the "new rules of FSU defense"?
Since we have a year to do the DC wishlist series, we need to have a set of requirements.
One of Mine:
We will not allow you to throw slants in goal-to-go situations. You most throw outs or fades. We will deny the slant and then pursue the fades.
Why? College teams don’t throw these very well.
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Jan 10, 2009 5:42 PM EST
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CORNERBACK LEVERAGE, PLEASE
PATTERN READING
MIXED GAP ASSIGNMENTS
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 5:43 PM EST
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We will not allow you to throw it to the tight end crossing from the other side of the field
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Jan 10, 2009 5:43 PM EST
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Stealing from Saban...
we will defend the middle of the field at all costs. We will not allow you to run the of throw the ball between the hashes. We will force everything outside and pursue.
_ LSU Playbook, 2001
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 5:48 PM EST
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Saban is such a defensive genius, it isn't even funny
All caps in earlier post was for emphasis (I wasn’t yelling).
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 6:07 PM EST
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Saban
"[Our] philosophy on first and second down is to stop the run and play good zone pass defense. We will occasionally play man-to-man and blitz in this situation. On third down, we will primarily play man-to-man and mix-in some zone and blitzes. We will rush four or more players versus the pass about ninety-percent of the time.
"In all situations, we will defend the inside or middle of the field first – defend inside to outside. Against the run, we will not allow the ball to be run inside. We want to force the ball outside. Against the pass, we will not allow the ball to be thrown deep down the middle or inside. We want to force the ball to be thrown short and/or outside.
"… Finally, our job is to take the ball away from the opponents’ offense and score or set up good field position for our offense. We must knock the ball loose, force mistakes, and cause turnovers. Turnovers and making big plays win games. We will be alert and aggressive and take advantage of every opportunity to come up with the ball . . . . The trademark of our defense will be effort, toughness, and no mental mistakes regarding score or situation in any game."
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 6:09 PM EST
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Fun Fact
Saban declares 6 yards from the LOS between the hashes as a “no defend zone” His guys do not guard it.
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 6:16 PM EST
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I think the fade route in goal line situations is a terrible play
Unless you have a great guy for catching those, they are almost always incomplete. Sometimes there is a flag, but running the ball or throwing a quick hitch is just much more effective.
It always makes me scratch my heads when teams run this play on 3rd and goal or on a 2-point conversion.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 5:44 PM EST
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We will play man cover 2 with very aggressive corners
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 5:45 PM EST
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. . . .IF we have the appropiate personal
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an ax --- Mickey Andrews
by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 6:05 PM EST
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I think I've asked this before, but doesn't this suit our personnel?
To beat us deep you need to beat 2 defenders, so we minimize the times we are in 1 on 1 coverage deep. Also, it’s easier for the corners who don’t have to worry about playing zone, and less pressure on the safeties as well. I guess we need our defensive line to do a better job vs the run… but we could always bring a safety up to about 7 yards off the LOS to make an 8th man in the box, before dropping back.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 6:25 PM EST
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Off-topic... the warchant headline right now is "poor performance" in reference to
The b-ball game.
I wouldn’t say poor performance, I thought we played alright. Defense was great, and rebounding was pretty good I thought. I don’t see how an 8 point loss to the #2 team in the nation could be considered “poor”
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 5:55 PM EST
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Eh, they let up big time and were playing prevent.
They were up 48-21 at one point. Put it on cruise control. We played more like a 15 point loss. Duke really just went into prevent.
The problem I have with their article, is… WE KNEW THIS TEAM HAD THE WORST ACC OFFENSE FOR THE ENTIRE NON-CONFERENCE SEASON. It’s as if the light bulb just went off.
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Jan 10, 2009 5:58 PM EST
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I thought we did OK (for Duke)
It reminded me of the Northwestern game, a hug gap of no offense and turnovers that put the game out of reasonable reach early in the second half. But I liked the fight to get back in the game, the hustle, LH’s teams here don’t get blown out very often anymore. Just, once again, the turnovers …
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Jan 10, 2009 6:00 PM EST
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Anyone who watched the SEC championship (I was gone the whole day)
Did Oklahoma do many of the same things (scheme wise) that Florida did?
I was impressed with the way OU’s defense played (especially in the first half). They seemed to win first down. (again, especially in the first half). The only bad defensive stat they had was third downs.
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Jan 10, 2009 6:15 PM EST
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ON OU's 1st Int,
they showed a blitz look and beautifully checked to a cover-3.
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Jan 10, 2009 6:18 PM EST
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On the 2nd pick they did an amazing job of dropping both DT in coverage
And still getting great pressure on the QB, then Tebow did them a favor by throwing right between the 9 and the 3 on McCoy’s jersey.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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Jan 10, 2009 6:29 PM EST
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Stoops did a nice job of breaking his tendencies just enough to not get shredded.
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Jan 10, 2009 6:18 PM EST
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It was a nice zone blitz they ran.
Overall, I was impressed with Stoops.
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 6:19 PM EST
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They just showed Andre DeBose
Sitting with Meyer and Tebow at the UF-MIssissippi basketball game.
Didn’t know if anyone would care….
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Jan 10, 2009 6:23 PM EST
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Is this his official visit?
Is he done with recruiting? I remember hearing about how he would look at FSU even after committing at the UA game, but I haven’t heard anything since then.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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Jan 10, 2009 6:27 PM EST
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It's over for Debose
Meyer would sell his own grandmother to keep him.
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 6:41 PM EST
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I've confirmed that Reid and Charles were at the game, that we did do a Charles chant.
Coach Coley was sitting with Orsons Dad, talking to him throughout the whole first half and half time. Orson Charles had on a gold FSU hoodie and his sister had on a garnet FSU wind breaker suit and Orsons father and mother both had on gold shirts. E.J. Manuel was sitting with Orson Charles the whole game. Both of them actually got up and left about half way through the 2nd half to go hang out together. Do not underestimate the connection between a super touted young black QB and a guy like Orson.
Ried came with his family. Apparently his mom stayed after Reid left and she chatted with Jimbo for a long time. She went nuts when the team did well. Guess who also came? Gerald Demps, his teammate.
Jimbo Fisher, Chuch Amato, Mickey Andrews, Coach Coley, Lawerence Dawsey and coach Heggins were all sitting with the recruits families. Bobby Bowden was NOT spotted at the game with the recruits. Maybe he was napping?
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Jan 10, 2009 6:35 PM EST
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Coach Coley was sitting with Orsons Dad, talking to him throughout the whole first half and half time. Orson Charles had on a gold FSU hoodie and his sister had on a garnet FSU wind breaker suit and Orsons father and mother both had on gold shirts. E.J. Manuel was sitting with Orson Charles the whole game. Both of them actually got up and left about half way through the 2nd half to go hang out together. Do not underestimate the connection between a super touted young black QB and a guy like Orson.
Ried came with his family. Apparently his mom stayed after Reid left and she chatted with Jimbo for a long time. She went nuts when the team did well. Guess who also came? Gerald Demps, his teammate.
Jimbo Fisher, Chuch Amato, Mickey Andrews, Coach Coley, Lawerence Dawsey and coach Heggins were all sitting with the recruits families. Bobby Bowden was NOT spotted at the game with the recruits. Maybe he was napping?
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Jan 10, 2009 6:36 PM EST
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Win over the mom, Jimbo
Do work
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 6:43 PM EST
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Why wouldn't we do a Reid chant?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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Jan 10, 2009 6:36 PM EST
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May have, just didn't hear about it.
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Jan 10, 2009 6:39 PM EST
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There is an article up on another site
Where Bryce Brown is naming Oregon as his leader, not Miami.
Take it for what it’s worth, but wanted to pass along.
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Jan 10, 2009 6:47 PM EST
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Awesome.
Has Miami hired an OC yet?
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Jan 10, 2009 6:48 PM EST
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FSUSom and other startegy Nuts...
i’d read ’em in order
http://www.gelfmagazine.com/archives/neural_networking_the_nfl.php
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Jan 10, 2009 6:26 PM EST
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Thanks... I'll have to check these out
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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Jan 10, 2009 6:27 PM EST
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WOW, thanks
ZEUS is a beast
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 6:40 PM EST
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MattDNole is our new critical decision zar. He's a PHD candidate in Biostats and we hope to do some stuff like this for FSU
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Jan 10, 2009 6:43 PM EST
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MattDStatNole?
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 6:44 PM EST
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For Instance...
If Hamilton devotes 95% of practice time to defensive drills… Matt will analyze that as a critical error.
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Jan 10, 2009 6:45 PM EST
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Is MA devoting 96% of practice time to intensity and aggressiveness a critical error?
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 6:49 PM EST
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I can't wait to see his stats on Amato and Bowden's practice time...
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 6:55 PM EST
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chew chew chew spit "Execution."
Mickey Andrews wanted to remind you to focus on execution.
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Jan 10, 2009 8:30 PM EST
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After reading up on the subject I can't watch football games with large groups of people anymore.
It’s too hard to explain why I scream “go for it” every time there’s a 4th down inside the 40.
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Jan 10, 2009 8:34 PM EST
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Agreed 100%
Glad I have a kindred spirit out there.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
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Jan 10, 2009 11:49 PM EST
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GO HERE. Kicking IS a critical erorr. So glad I posted that Zues thing
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Jan 10, 2009 6:58 PM EST
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FG good. Incredibly stupid. This is a fluid dynamic game (football). When you pin your opponent
inside the five, you are more likely to score next (not the team with the ball)!
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Jan 10, 2009 6:59 PM EST
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If they are half a yard short here....
what do you do?
by Zach_Nole on
Jan 10, 2009 7:18 PM EST
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GO! You have timeouts and Balitmore needs 2 first downs.
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Jan 10, 2009 7:19 PM EST
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Poetic justice if he misses.
Fisher is a great HC, but that’s silly.
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Jan 10, 2009 7:19 PM EST
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Why can't you review the Delay of Game?
by Zach_Nole on
Jan 10, 2009 7:28 PM EST
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You were right
Should have gone for the TD
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Jan 10, 2009 7:39 PM EST
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Assuming an NFL team can't take the ball and get a FG with 2+ minutes remaining= dumb.
Titans cost themselves this one.
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Jan 10, 2009 7:40 PM EST
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It always amazes me when NFL teams make ridiculous decisions like
Throwing a 5 yard pass with 40 seconds left and 1 timeout at your own ~35 when you need a FG.
They shouldn’t have thrown anything over the middle shorter than 20 yards.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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Jan 10, 2009 8:05 PM EST
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Yea I dont understand that either
No reason to throw short over the middle. If you throw short in that situation it has to be to the sideline.
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Jan 10, 2009 8:07 PM EST
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Everyone needs to realize how good Tennessee will be, very soon. They get Vince Young's mega salary off the books.
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Jan 10, 2009 8:12 PM EST
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Who is their QB gonna be?
Kerry Collins doesn’t have that much left in the tank.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 8:17 PM EST
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Not sure, but no team has done a better job of being horrible with the cap and then mastering it than Tennessee
Philly has always been great with it.
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Jan 10, 2009 8:22 PM EST
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Imagine how good they would be
if they didn’t botch two top 10 picks (Young and Pac-Man)
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on
Jan 10, 2009 11:51 PM EST
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titans late round drafting is great
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 11, 2009 8:09 AM EST
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Sorry for talking about Cromartie so much
but he has the potential to be a cornerback like Ed Reed is a safety. Does that make sense?
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 8:31 PM EST
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ie best cornerback in the NFL the last decade
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 8:32 PM EST
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Finnegan is better than AC right now....much more consistent in all phases of the game.
But AC definitely has a higher ceiling
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Jan 10, 2009 8:35 PM EST
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AC rookie year = best CB of last decade. He has enormous potential.
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 8:38 PM EST
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I agree, but he is just not consistent enough right now
He takes chances and gets beat a lot.
i think Brandon Marshall had 17 catches in one game early in the year, matched up on AC.
Don’t get me wrong, I love watching Cromartie.
By the way, Nmadi Ashmouga (Sp) is the best CB in the last decade. Teams don’t even throw his way…seriously/
In 2007, QB’s only threw to his man 31 times and just 10 competions ALL YEAR
In 2008, QB’s only threw to his man 27 times and just 8 completions ALL YEAR
He is far and away the best cover corner, and pretty good in run support as well.
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Jan 10, 2009 8:43 PM EST
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Finnegan maybe not even the best corner on his own team
The Ravens spent most of their time throwing at cornerback Cortland Finnegan, who spent most of the day matched up against the Ravens’ Derrick Mason. Although Finnegan’s seen his league-wide reputation skyrocket this year, that’s not backed up by his numbers in our Game Charting Project. Last year, Finnegan did well in our numbers, but this year he comes out as inferior to opposite corner Nick Harper. Finnegan’s had a Success Rate of 53 percent while allowing 6.9 yards per attempt, while Harper’s had a 68 percent Success Rate while giving up only 5.0 yards per throw. While Finnegan was selected to the All-Pro team earlier today, it’s entirely possible that he might not have been the best cornerback on his team.
From 1st link
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 8:43 PM EST
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Good info
Can you poke any holes in Nmadi :)
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Jan 10, 2009 8:47 PM EST
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Not many
I will say that the % of throws is probably impacted by the quality of the other corner.
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Jan 10, 2009 9:01 PM EST
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Rogers-Cro did to the Panthers what Alphonso Smith did to us.
Very similar to the first play of the Wake game.
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Jan 10, 2009 9:09 PM EST
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You mean beg them to play for them and when the idiotic coaching staff refused he owned them for 4 years?
Or is this a different Alphonso Smith?
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Jan 10, 2009 9:16 PM EST
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Did anyone see Arizona run that!
KGUn fake run action, fake bubble to outside man, and they had a switch on with their TE and WR!!
That’s a heck of a play. I am going to write fisher about that. It happened somewhere between 8:15 and 7:00 of the 2nd quarter, long pass to Fitsgerald
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Jan 10, 2009 9:18 PM EST
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Almost got Fitzgerald killed.
Good looking play though.
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 9:19 PM EST
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Does Jimbo read e-mails?
Does he answer them?
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 9:28 PM EST
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Not sure, but I think he'd do well to run that and our entire site would go nuts
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Jan 10, 2009 9:35 PM EST
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I probably send a e-mail every day, LOL.
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 9:37 PM EST
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really dumb decision to punt this. Silly. They are probably losing 3points of win %
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Jan 10, 2009 9:21 PM EST
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Want to challenge yourself?
http://pigskinrevolution.com/kaufman_article_2007.html Yeah… makes me totally rethink a lot of stuff coaches told me as a kid.
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Jan 10, 2009 9:23 PM EST
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I swear if I were a football coach one of my goals would be to make the announcers for my games would sound like idiots.
“I just don’t understand why they are kicking the 48 yard field goal.”
“Bad call. I’m not second-guessing I’m first guessing.”
2 plays later… TD
These types of things are understood by the coaching staff just south of us. Unfortunately, we haven’t gotten into the 21st century yet.
by MattDNole on
Jan 10, 2009 9:27 PM EST
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That was a nice play to Fitzgerald
We should use that.
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Jan 10, 2009 9:24 PM EST
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haha, you do that too?
I thought I was the only one.
I have a whole notebook of plays I drew up.
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 9:31 PM EST
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I just downloaded a free program will let you know how it works
by FSUncensored on
Jan 10, 2009 9:33 PM EST
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What's this program called?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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Jan 10, 2009 10:19 PM EST
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I have a notebook of a playbook that I have worked on
I’ve gotten tired of working on it, but I liked the basic premise. The formations are based out of a QB in the pistol with a RB to each side and a RB behind him, and this creates all sorts of confusion for the defense. I figured out a “quadruple option” play out of it… I had a long list of reasons why this offense would be effective, but I think only having 2 guys in a practical position to catch a downfield pass and only 4 gaps to cover on defense makes it too easy to cover.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 10:34 PM EST
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you should see my pro style offense. . . .
Spurrier (prime) + Petrino = ridiculous combo routes.
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by FSUStateOfMind on
Jan 10, 2009 10:52 PM EST
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Wow. I love petrino's playbook.
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Jan 10, 2009 10:57 PM EST
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This sounds like treason (in fact it is)
but I really admired Spurrier’s offense (at UF).
I went crazy when I found his playbook. Like stumbling onto a gold mine.
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Jan 10, 2009 11:00 PM EST
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I have a book called "offensive football strategies" and it has a bunch of essays from teams summer manuels
Spurrier’s section is probably the best thing I could find in the book. It isn’t exactly all about the “modern” offense… there were pieces from about 50 coaches and not one had a play out of the shotgun. Joe Hamilton was on the cover and I think the most recent articles were from about 2000.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 11:02 PM EST
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I have his 1989 Duke offense as well.
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Jan 10, 2009 11:03 PM EST
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One of my top 5 pass plays
Can’t get an image in here so I’ll try to describe it.
Formation: Trips (X, Z B on same side, IN THAT ORDER) with Y as TE on other side.
X runs slant at 4-6 yds.
Z runs hitch at 4 yds.
B runs slant at 4-6 yds.
Y blocks. (if split wide could run slant)
If you don’t get that, from left to right the routes are slant, hitch, slant, block).
Goal is to get the safety to bite on hitch and for QB to hit slant over top. This is nasty inside the 10. Spurrier runs the heck out of this. Mike could also be a key. Good vs Cov. 0 or Cov. 1.
This play also works with the routes run deeper (ie 15-18 yds).
Also, does anyone else test their plays in Madden?
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Jan 11, 2009 12:27 PM EST
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My PS3 ia apparently broken
and living in Tuscaloosa Alabama, I can’t figure out where to fix it.
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Jan 11, 2009 1:41 PM EST
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That reminds me
I meant to ask you earlier about Petrino…I don’t know anything about him in terms of being an actual football coach. What type of offense does he run? What makes it work so well? And how long before he gets the Hogs to 10-win status?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
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Jan 10, 2009 11:55 PM EST
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Almost always 1RB. Then either 3rd 1TE, or 2wr 2te. Some gun, not much.
He really gives his QB nice progressions.
I e-mailed you his book
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That sounds like an inverted wishbone with a pistol depth
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I thought of it as a pistol flexbone with the wing backs deeper
I thought of how FSU could use it. I think every once in a while it could confuse someone, kind of like using the wildcat can work a bit, though you can’t use it any time.
If FSU ran it in 2009 we could try…
WR – Easterling
WR – Fortson
RB – Thomas
WB – Pressley/Jones
WB – Parker
You could motion the WB into the slot to turn it into a 4 WR look, so the defense can’t just put all their run stopping personnel in.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 11:00 PM EST
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I meant "you can't use it every time", not "any time"
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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Jan 10, 2009 11:01 PM EST
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Wow, that seems pretty nuts.
The problem I see is that you have to devote a ton of time to running good option, and this is so complex that you’d have to switch permanently.
I’d love to see some small college do it.
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This is how the quadruple option works
QB takes the direct snap, if things look better to the right he fakes a handoff to the WB who is to his right and proceeds to run an option with the RB, as he runs right. If things look better to the left he gives it to the WB who is running left, who can then run an option with the left WB.
You probably have no idea what I am trying to say… I guess you can say the QB does the zone read play with one of the WB, and whoever has the ball after the handoff/fakehandoff then is the qb in an option.
You’d probably fumble the ball a bunch doing this, but if you worked on it hard I think it could work.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 11:05 PM EST
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I think I can picture this.
How much motion is involved?
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Jan 10, 2009 11:07 PM EST
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Before the snap?
None.
Though I guess lining up with it as 4 WR and moving to the RB trio formation (best name I could think of) would be a nice touch to mess with the D.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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Jan 10, 2009 11:09 PM EST
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Holy Crap, anyone seen Mizell's new highlights?
Looks bigger than Furlong already. Kid’s a beast. Runs like a deer.
He’ll do great in our “intensity and execution” scheme.
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Jan 10, 2009 10:27 PM EST
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Wanna hear something ridiculous?
I was on the rivals mainboard, and saw a post entitled something like “CJ Mizell senior highlights,” posted by an fsu guy, I clicked it… and it said the post had been deleted!
So NO, I have NOT seen the Mizell highlights because the mainboard mod deleted one of the few posts related to football while they keep threads about how hot their “wives” are.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on
Jan 10, 2009 10:30 PM EST
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Ok.. really random question.
But has anybody else seen the commercial with Vince from Shamwow selling the SlapChop?
I see it all the time and nobody I talk to apparently does.
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Jan 10, 2009 10:33 PM EST
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Wow, what is going on...
I saw the game was 7-0 Panthers, I had to do something else… 30-7 Cardinals? I saw this team lose ~48-7 just a month ago. Wow.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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Jan 10, 2009 10:35 PM EST
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Mizell
I think the he should be a 5 star. He is fast as hell, and he is very instinctive. The only reason he isn’t rated higher imo is because of that incident he had with his coach.
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Jan 10, 2009 10:36 PM EST
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I think we have 1 for sure and 3 borderline guys
McAllister, Mizell and Downs could all be 5 stars.
Greg Reid too, actually.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
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