Dear Gary Brown,
by Bud Elliott on Jan 11, 2009 4:59 PM EST
in FSU Football
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Do you watch the NFL? Do you want to make millions of dollars some day?
If you don't watch the NFL, maybe you should start right now.
O'Dell Haggins... The Money Maker
Do you know who Broderick Brunkley is?
via www.philadelphiaeagles.com
BBunk is about the size you'll end up at. 6-2/6-3 305. BBunk came to FSU, worked hard, listened to Coach Odell, and got paid.
Last year, BBunk got a bonus of 6.4 Million dollars. This year he gets one of 5.2 Million.
O'dell is the best at turning athletic defensive tackles into NFL Millionaires. BBunk got picked 14th overall and is now one of the best defensive tackles in the NFL.
What is Bunkley doing right now? He just skullcracked Eli Manning. He's leading his Philadelphia Eagles past the Giants. In the Giants Stadium. The announcers are practically having an orgasm over how well he is playing. The announcer had to change his pants during the commercial break. BBunk just threw the center into Brandon Jacobs on 3rd down for a 2-yard loss.
There's more. Know who Darnell Tyrese Brevin Julius Mojo Dockett III is? He plays defensive tackle for the Arizona Cardinals. He's about 6'4" 295.
Know what the Cardinals did last night? They held the league's best rushing attack, the Carolina Panthers, to 75 yards rushing as Arizona punked Carolina, in their own stadium.
Dockett is getting paid. Here's his website. Darnell makes the Pro Bowl pretty often.
Darnell Dockett is getting paid as well. Check out this article from ESPN:
Arizona Cardinals defensive tackle Darnell Dockett Friday signed a five-year contract extension that will keep him off the restricted free agent market next spring.
The extension is worth slightly in excess of $22 million and includes $7 million in bonuses. Dockett will receive a $3.5 million roster bonus now and then a second bonus of $3.5 million in the spring. Base salaries for the extension are $510,000 (for 2007), $3.25 million (2008), $3.5 million (2009), $3.75 million (2010) and $4 million (2011).
Dockett in his third year, is a fixture on the Cardinals' line and is widely regarded as one of the NFL's best interior defenders.The 25-year-old has been a starter at the "under" tackle position since his rookie campaign, and his ability to quickly get through the gaps has made him a disruptive force. The former Florida State standout possesses excellent natural strength, uses his hands well, and plays with unusual leverage for such a young lineman.
Came into the league and started from day 1.
22 Million in guaranteed money and 7 million in bonuses? Damn! That is some serious jack.
Know who Travis Johnson is?
He's a star defensive tackle for the Houston Texans. Makes 10 Million. Who coached him? O'Dell Haggins.
You fit O'Dell's mold.
O'Dell doesn't want fatboys. He wants guys who are quick. Guys who can run, yet are still strong.
Bunk came in at 6-2 270. He was really quick and pretty strong. O'Dell turned him into one of the richest people in Tampa.
Dockett came in at 6-3 265. He was really quick and pretty strong. O'Dell made him a multi-millionaire.
Travis Johnson came in at 6-4 265. He was really quick and pretty strong. O'Dell made him a multi-millionaire.
You are 6-3 275. You are really quick and pretty strong. Yet... you're a Florida commit. WHY??
Florida State is a much better defensive tackle school than UF.
Florida Gator Defensive Tackles coached by defensive coordinator Charlie Strong BUST in the NFL. They stink. They are no good. they get cut.
Don't believe me?
Gerard Warren was taken with the 3rd overall pick in 2001 by the Cleveland Browns. he was supposed to be their stud. That didn't go well.
Let's see what their local newspaper had to say:
http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_6616895
Warren, One very Large Bust
San Francisco - They called him "Big Money." And the Broncos blew it big time on defensive tackle Gerard Warren.
Easy come, easy go.
The rapid rise and unexpected fall of Warren's career in blue and orange has ended with a thud. When a 325-pound man gets knocked on his keister as a big, fat bust, the shock waves can be felt throughout the Denver locker room.
Something tells me shaking up the team is exactly what coach Mike Shanahan had in mind by making a $10 million example of Warren. He figures to be traded as soon as the Broncos can find an NFL team willing to give them anything of marginal worth - an old, scratched copy of a Madden video game and half a bag of Cheetos might close the deal - in return for the 29-year-old defender.
Warren is now on his 4th NFL team where he is again, playing poorly.
Something else interesting? Strong likes fatties. You are in shape. You're not a fat dude. The NFL wants guys who are in shape.
Here's another UF BUST at Defensive Tackle:
What about Marcus Thomas? We know he loves weed. He played well for Florida when he wasn't suspended.
Thomas was picked int he 4th round! He makes 350K. Thomas is widely considered a bust. In fact, he recently got caught in a coacine bust! Thomas weighs 315lbs.
Another UF fat boy who was good in college and horrible in the NFL.
So, Gary, you wanna dominate in college and then get paid, or dominate in college and NOT get paid?
The chance to start right now
I don't know if you saw our defensive tackles this year, but they were terrible. Why? We had 2 guys leave for the NFL before the season and we didn't have very much depth.
This year we have even less depth. Know what that means? You're better right now than than the guys we have.
Let's take a look at who we have coming back:
Nose Guard Moses McCray, sophomore, 6-2, 305. Should start.
DT Justin Mincey, 6-3 285. Explosive. Should start if he doesn't go pro.
DT Kendrick Stewart. Senior. 6-1, 260. He should play defensive end.
DT Budd Thacker. Senior. 6-2 290. Really, really slow. Unathletic. Plays dumb on the field. You are better than him right now.
DT Emannual Dunbar. Senior. 6-3, 285. Career ending back injury.
Hmmm.. that is what, two good players our of five?
You come here, work hard, listen to O'Dell and you will beat out those guys and play early. Really early.
Let's look at UF's depth chart:
Brandon Antwine DT Sr. 6-0/295
John Brown DT So. 6-1/295
Torrey Davis DT Jr. 6-3/298
Troy Epps DT Sr. 6-1/292
John Fairbanks DL Jr. 6-4/265
Jaye Howard DT So. 6-3/270
Omar Hunter DT So. 6-0/315
Lawrence Marsh DT Jr. 6-5/305
Matt Patchan DT Fr. 6-6/270
Terron Sanders DT Sr.. 6-2/300
Wow! That is some serious depth! We know UF's DTs bust in the NFL. If you go there, will you have any shot at early playing time? No way. Not a chance. That is TEN DEFENSIVE TACKLES.
The choice is yours, but you could come in and play early for FSU while Coach O'Dell makes you a millionaire, or waste away at UF and then stink it up in the nfl.
I think I'd choose to play early for the best defensive tackle coach in college football. Then again, I don't want to end up in the Arena League...
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Maybe someone in Tally could drop this on Brown's doorstep.
I keed, I keed. Maybe.
Is Brown going to visit?
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
. . . to add on this. . .
I’m guessing you heard some good news on Brown.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Nope, just wanted to make sure he knew
that every UF DT under strong in this decade has absolutely sucked in the NFL, while O’Dell makes Millionaires.
well, I wish he would visit.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Haha
“He just skullcracked Eli..” I love it! He shut down a very good center on two 4th and shorts. However, my rule of thumb….is I can’t root for you if you play for the Philadelphia Eagles. Even if you are skullcracking Eli (which I enjoy watching). I had to stop rooting for Corey Simon (was he coached by Haggins?) for quite some time.
UNF
Didn’t you say you were from Sanford, Fla? That you watched Debose play?
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
I'm from Winter Springs.
Seminole County. I did watch Debose play his junior year twice. I have been in NoVa since. My whole point was that Debose dominated Seminole County which doesn’t have great athletes. I made most of those statements before the state playoffs and all-american game. I would still be fairly cautious on how excited any team would get about him. I think he would fit a Miami type team a lot more than he would Florida State who tends to play people at their ‘true’ position. Debose doesn’t have a ‘true’ position.
Correction
They don’t consistently have great athletes. Great athletes HAVE come out of Seminole Co. though.
That was my point.
He looked A LOT faster in his highlights than in the UA game. To be honest, I wasn’t impressed and was expecting more. He was fast, but that safety was running with him easily.
He maybe a product of terrible competition.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Good stuff
I wonder if he actually sees this, lol. I have heard Gary has been a gator fan his whole life and never considered anyone else. Doesn’t mean Mickey cant stop by his home, which is all of 40 minutes away from Doak.
Damn Bunkley is jacked.
Also, he can play NT and still disrupt, or DT and still clog. He dominated the Giants interior 3 today.
Did all year, was too light for Urban's OL
He’s rumored to move back to OT once depth clears up/he gains weight. But that very well may never happen.
Quote from Greg Reid on Rivals
“Coach (Mickey) Andrews is the best defensive back coach I’ve met so far, he knows what he’s doing with the corners. I believe I could get a lot of help there,” said Reid.
I’m not going in to this again. If I need to, I’ll just copy and paste one of my responses from an earlier thread.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Yeah I saw that LOL. You, laydo, and Bushido seem to be the only reasonable fans on Rivals.
Another gem (perhaps taken with a grain of salt like CaS said):
“They were asking what position I played and they said they need that,” said Reid.
Why not say, “We need you.” It’s obvious the coaches knew what position he played.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
yeah, but he still gave that quote
but I’m sure on his visit to Gainesville next weekend they will hammer it home about Mickey being washed up and close to retiring.
I digress though… this is a positive write-up about Odell, so I’ll try to keep it on track.
This dysfunctional coaching hierarchy is not helping us reach our goals.
I still think he'll end up in Florida with UGA in second.
back to the topic, Odell is a beast.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
I don't like the idea that Lee Gordon interviews our recruits
Like it or not, he is part of what the Recruit sees about FSU.
If you’ve ever tried listening to the Weekly Seminole Report on WC, it is painful.
I can't watch Lee Gordon on the news.
He looks like a human version of the buzzard from the Bugs Bunny cartoons.
“uuhhh…. yup yup yup”
Good Post
It makes very good points. We have some beastly d tackles in the league right now. Recruits should take notice.
Dang I thought McCray was a redshirt
Didn’t know we already wasted a year of his eligibility.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
He actually played well I thought
Kid is probably our most promising defensive prospect outside of Nigel.
P.S. I think I'm DEPRESSED.
I told my wife today I think I’m depressed about Florida State. Like really depressed. i tried to take a nap this afternoon and couldn’t sleep, tossing and turning, just thinking about Bowden’s interview from Friday morning, you know when your mind gets going a mile a minute and you just can’t shut it down? Anyway, this post cheered me up, some great love for O’dell.
I know it’s just football.
"You mean you still haven't taken out the garbage?"
No, she understands. She’s up to date, and it upsets her too. To the other comments: I still get upset after losses – it was worse when I was younger, but you’re right, Wake and BC hurt this year – but I mean, right now I’m just feeling down, man. Hopeless, etc. – I look like Bobby in that picture on the front page. (Yikes.) And it’s not just the losing, it’s the lack of commitment to winning. Nothing new, I know, but it’s just getting to me, and it’s really starting to feel, well, hopeless. I’m not a poor sport, I’m someone who loves my school and possesses pride and a competitive spirit. We pour a lot of ourselves into this stuff, and whether it’s just a game or not, it hurts when you see no return (and no reciprocation) on that investment.
From like 95-2002 I couldn't sleep after a loss.
BC this year was the first time since ‘02 I couldn’t sleep. I guess that’s a good thing.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
I can never sleep and I can never wake up after a loss
I just lie in bed on Sunday morning for like 45 minutes.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 11, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
its called benadryl
just remember its going to give you a hangover like feeling when you wake up the next day.
So tebow is coming back
I think Harvin and Spikes will go.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
If Harvin stays
Debose opens back up
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
I doubt that
It’s one year and in that offense everyone gets the ball enough.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 11, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Just what I think (and some others too).
I think he’ll go to LSU if Harvin comes back (not likely).
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Anyone else think Tebow and Harvin flopping in the NFL could hurt UF?
Let’s face it, recruits want to play in the league. Most put national championship way down the list, as they should.
I don't see why
First, I don’t think Harvin will flop. Even if he does, so what? Guys flop all the time. Fred Rouse flopped yet somehow we can still get some good WR recruits.
On to Tebow… maybe, but it’s not like Florida hurt his development. He wouldn’t have fared better in the NFL if he went anywhere else, so it’s not like they messed up with him.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 11, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Funky Fred didn't make it to the league before busting.
recruits don’t care if you bust in college; especially when you rob a teammate.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
True, that was a bad example
Peter Warrick and Snoop Minnis did nothing in the NFL and we still got guys like Chris Davis, DiShon Platt and Rouse.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 11, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Who has he coached?
No good talent at BG. I know Smith was a bust at Utah.
Leak was never going to make the NFL, I guess the WR have been busts. But he’s only been at UF for 4 years… what offensive pro bowlers has FSU put out in that time?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 11, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
FSU is seen as a school that produces NFL players in large numbers (rightfully so)
UF does not have that reputation.
Perception is all that matters. Recruits see FSU as a one stop shop to the NFL. The same can’t be said for UF. We are living off our NFL reputation.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Rouse never starred for us
The argument will be “sure, you’ll be a star in his system, but he doesn’t prep you for the NFL”…
UF totally hurt Tebow’s nfl development. Meyer doesn’t give a damn about his mechanics, only that he can chuck it deep against solo.
Tebow's mechanics aren't really the problem
Yes, I know he really isn’t a prototypical NFL QB (that out-route that the Oklahoma DB jumped and picked off should prove that) but Tebow’s biggest problem is that he takes every snap out of the shotgun, which never happens in the NFL.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jan 11, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Someone might actually break Percy in half.
Literally. He’s fragile.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
I don’t think you can go by Pro-bowlers (fan’s vote) or All-Pros even. I think you have to go by how many get drafted and where they get drafted. A coach is no different than any other teacher at the university. Their job is to prepare you for your chosen profession. That doesn’t mean you will succeed in that profession.
I was able to get a job at company A because I graduated and passed an interview. How I do at that company is up to me. Chances are if you get drafted you get at least a half-year to show you belong. By that point your previous coaching is mute because a team is looking to see if you can learn or have good instincts.
It should
I know Tebow wont do anything, but I could see Percy making a impact in the NFL. If they both flop though it should hurt their recruiting.
Way way way OT:
But I just had to say this:
If you are Wake Forest, the number 4 team in the nation, and you just beat the number 3 team in the nation (UNC) in Winston-Salem by 3, your fans are not allowed to rush the court. Period.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jan 11, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions
I agree re: UNC
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jan 11, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree
It’s big for their program.
For the sake of comparison, imagine Bobby died, we named Jimbo head coach, had 1 loss going into the UF game and then beat #3 UF. Wouldn’t you rush the field?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 11, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Besides, I don't see what the problem is with rushing the court...
Unless you are te favorite.
It’s a bunch of college kids looking for a good time, is it really disrespectul to anyone? The team that lost should know that they must be good, nobody rushes after you beat NC State Tech for women.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 11, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Not if we were number 4
and we beat them at home…I didn’t look at the lines, but I be Wake was a slight favorite.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jan 11, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'm willing to be there were a bunch of juniors and seniors in attendence
Who had been waiting for good basketball at that school but hadn’t seen any since Chris Paul left. This was their biggest win in years… why not celebrate?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 11, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I don't have a problem with the players celebrating
and I imagine they will. My problem is with students rushing the court…save that for a monumental upset, not a win over a Carolina team that isn’t as good right now as everyone said they’d be.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jan 11, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
I was talking about the students
I don’t think the players really care that much, to be honest.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 11, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone stop talking.
I’m still imagining it.
by TRMNole on Jan 12, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Okay, I'm pretty sure warchant misquoted Orson Charles in their article
Unless he restated the same sentence 3 times.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
His neck is incredible...
"I am the Real Vine and my Father is the Farmer. He cuts off every branch of me that doesn't bear grapes. And every branch that is grape-bearing he prunes back so it will bear even more"
I really hope we get him
but I also think he might go out of state. I read on Warchant also that Reid seemed to like his visit a lot.
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