NCAA Report Rumblings
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 11:24 AM EST
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The NCAA report is not out yet. Let's break down the latest developments from inside the program.
Another day and no official release of the NCAA's report. I have spoken with a friend of mine, however, inside the program. FSU is arguing over something unrelated to football or basketball. Track fans will not be happy (all I can say).
FSU will definitely lose more scholarships than the amount they recommended. The restrictions will last three years and not two. We will likely lose some wins.
I now hear that FSU will lose 4 more scholarships than they recommended, almost doubling the penalty. The 2007 season will be vacated. The scholarship restrictions will be over 3 years and not two.
So, What? Let's have a quick breakdown of what this all means.
WHAT: FSU will lose double the amount of scholarships that they originally recommended in their (weak) self imposed sanctions report. The sanctions will last three years and not two.
IMPACT: Ouch. This will hurt us more than many of our fans realize. We can deal with this, but we will need to get rid of more than just D'vontrey Richardson and Emmanuel Dunbar. FSU will need to be more like 'Bama, 'Miami, UNC, and Oklahoma in how they deal with Juniors and Seniors who don't have a future as a football player. I've mentioned several players who should not be on scholarship this Fall. I don't want to turn this into an ethical debate. Recruiting is the lifeblood of any program. You need scholarships to survive. FSU can act like the big boys or become a middle of the pack ACC team during the next five years. It is their choice.
WHAT: FSU will vacate the entire 2007 season (including the Bowl game).
IMPACT: From a football standpoint, this means nothing. This won't impact how the team plays. This doesn't matter in recruiting. Recruits don't care about your historical record in 2007.
This does impact Bobby Bowden. FSU went 7-6 in 2007. Bobby is currently one win behind Joe Paterno. When the sanctions are finalized, he will be eight wins behind Paterno. He will still be the second winningiest coach of all time. This move ends the race between these two coaches. Eight wins is not a gap he can close playing in the ACC while Penn State crushes the Big 10 and their pathetic out of conference schedule. I personally don't think Bowden deserves the record, because counting Bowden's lower division wins and not counting Eddie Robinson's lower division wins seems unfair.
This also makes it very interesting when talking with those people who believe that Bowden is solely chasing the record. I've stated time and again that this will be Bobby's last run and I stand by that. If he's here in 2010, it is because he wants the all-time wins record, he is scared to die, or he just wants to keep collecting checks.
FSU's consecutive bowl streak is over. Again, from a football standpoint, this means nothing. This won't impact how the team plays. This doesn't matter in recruiting. Recruits don't care about a bowl streak. Plus, we can still verbally remind them that we've played in a bowl every year since the dawn of time (wink, wink). I think we still hold the record with twenty something consecutive bowls, but these records are made to be broken.
In 2007, the NCAA made Oklahoma had to vacate their entire 2005 season. This year, they played for the National Championship. These things hurt fans more than the program.
Bottom Line: If we get out of this with 10 scholarships lost over 3 years, be very happy. There will be no death penalty for Florida State.
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so if we lose 10 over 3 years
and we remove scholarships of Dunbar and Richardson, we’re down to 8. How bad of a situation are we in? How about we cut Esco or Powell if they’re on scholarship, and just let Hopkins play both positions?
Sarcastically...
How about we don’t offer schollies to kickers until they prove they can kick on the college level for a full year.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
then
we might not be able to find anyone. I’ve seen “good” college programs with kickers who are iffy from 40 yards out. Seems like a huge chance, hoping walk ons can kick, no?
I don't think so
At a school like FSU, with 13,000 guys, how many played soccer? They say kicking is more of a skill than a talent. I don’t think it’d be a problem at all.
I played soccer all my life...
I can make 40 yard field goals way more consistently than you’d think. I got 2 years of eligibility left, come get me Jimbo!
No No Gano
By that standard we very likely would not have had Gano this year then.
I'll post the list of guys I want slashed later on
I have completed a depth chart (with scholarship status) that I believe is correct.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I've posted
My thoughts about that… good article overall though guys.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." - General George S. Patton
well that sucks and good news at the same time
the good thing is now we have a reason to clean house and get rid of all the BS players. My question on that is what about useing other sports like Track or what not to get there scholarships for some players who could play or do play both. The bad thing is that thats 30 playeers we cant pay for. There are 30 players who have to find some other way to get the money to play. I guess that means we are going to have 10extra walkons over the next 2 years and after the 3rd year we will have about 35-45 scholarships to give out. I just hope with what we get from now to then in the top 5 so we can use them to get nothing but the best of the best. But that wont happen will it.
If a player is on scholarship and playing more than one sports, they have to count towards the sport with the higher sholarship limit. Perfect example is Kyle Long and Michael Ray Garvin. Because Long signed a scholarship with baseball, he could not play football. If he would have signed a scholarship with football he could have played baseball at the same time. Garvin could of had a track scholly but he played football also so he had to be on a football scholarship and count towards football. Miami was doing this when they where on probation and got busted.
Great write-up Uncensored
I was all ready to comment on the Oklahoma situation until I scrolled down and read about it…correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t that a result of Rhett Bomar’s car dealership job?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jan 15, 2009 11:39 AM EST reply actions
Correct
Yes, indeed Bomar and Quinn got paid for not doing any work at a car dealership. Isolated, but serious infraction.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
That's what I figured
Did Oklahoma lose any scholarships?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jan 15, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Among penalties that were not challenged were the addition of two years of probation to an earlier penalty, extending the Sooners’ probation to May 23, 2010, and the removal of two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you kindly
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jan 15, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I might argue the kicker schollie....
If he is as accurate as Gano. Gano scored a lot of points for us this year and games may have been decided differently if he was not there. Not saying this kid is a Gano but having a great kicker will win ball games plan and simple.
by UnstopaNole99! on Jan 15, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions
I love Gano
but nobody knew he was that good until he kicked. Kicking in college is way different because you don’t have a tee. I think we should have several kickers who are invited walk-ons.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
The same with the NFL.
Wasting NFL draft picks on kickers is sooo risky. Case and point Washington Redskins.
Or... recruit smart kickers and have them accept their academic scholarship instead of a football scholarship
Heck, take 25 kickers with this strategy.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
but if thats the case why not the rest of the team too.
I hate how during the season we lost 3-4 WR in dif games because of school stuff
Because of the way “star” athletes are treated (kickers aren’t considered stars). The “star” athletes will have a tendency to get away with more. If you want the good players you are going to have to take the attitude and poor habits with them. You just have to believe as a coach and hope as a fan that they’ll keep their heads above water.
Does this penalty fit the crime?
I dont think so. If you read my comments much, you know that I HATE when we have bad character on our team.
However, how does this all come back to the football program? Why are you punishing 50 something guys for the failure of a couple of coaching ‘overlooks’ and 11 guys who were given an ‘easy A.’ This is absurd and really TICKS me off.
So help me out someone...
We lose 17 seniors. We lose Myron Rolle and EB. We take off Dunbar and Richardson. That’s 21 scholarships right there, no?
This scholarship reduction will hurt
as we’ve discussed, this program uses talent to overcome bad coaching…with less talent, it will be harder to overcome incompetence.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jan 15, 2009 11:43 AM EST reply actions
The NCAA
has some of the WORST management. Their decisions across the board are too strict, like they are trying to constantly prove points. The Indiana basketball decision is another great example. There is thousands of them of inept decision making within the NCAA.
SAVE this if you enjoy looking at it. FSU will try to make scout.com take this down
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Sucks about the bowl streak
I know it doesn affect recruiting or on the field performance, but it was a nice streak to have.
As far as the 10 over 3 years. It would be up to us how we divide those 10 over the 3 years right???
Another question
Isn’t today the deadline for the NFL draft underclassmen to declare…can we now safely assume that watson, robinson and parker are coming back??
Deadline is today
Not sure what time. Not sure when we’d find out if these guys declared, because I don’t know when the NFL officially announces.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh I miss FSU
Had a class with Leroy Smith (remember him he scored on a INT retunr against Clemson in 2002) and was really good frined with Diego Romero and all the basketball team back in the Pickett days …they lived right next to me.
News about wins taken away
Is the best news I’ve heard since the final score of the FSU Wisky game.
One less pipe dream for Bowden to hold onto while standing firmly in the way of progress…. looking lost while he does it.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
This is definitely the last straw
Or at least we hope…there is no way he catches Joe Pa now.
by ChileanNole on Jan 15, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
well if???
If jo pa dies tonight (GOD PALEASE DONT LET THAT HAPPEN) and BB stays for 2 more years he could or if FSU wins all there games and PSU loses all theres come one guys its over for BB
Heck yes
I agree completely, Nattylite.
Bobby has no chance at the record now, REJOICE.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Am I the only one who
doesnt think that stops Bobby at all. If he (assuming he is serious) really thinks we are on the cusp of being great again, why wouldnt he still think he has a shot at the record, assuming we lose that season?
Bobby doesn't give a you know what about FSU.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Any speculation on what is really taking them so long to release official report?
I thought I remember someone mentioning in a different post that we were possibly trying to fight the decision?
They're arguing over something track related
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
drop the "s"
speculation at this point, however. Keep that in mind.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
how come??
i never heard of track athletes involved in the scandal…maybe I was wrong..
by ChileanNole on Jan 15, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Walk Ons, apparently
It will be interesting to see whether fans care about track.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
screw that!!
walk-ons did not win that championship!!!
by ChileanNole on Jan 15, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
BTW a bunch of people at warchant are mad at me for "bashing" Justing Bright
As many of you know everybody that has a FSU rivals account hates dislikes Barry Every (one of the recruiting analysts for the Southeast) after the whole Jermaine Thomas being a 3 star debacle last year. Well, Rivals released their final rankings for this year and some FSU fans got mad at Rivals and mostly Every again for not putting Mizzel even in the top 250 (which is a travesty BTW).
Well somebody posted what would Every’s comments about our commited players would be, sarcastically of course. For Justing Bright it said “if Stanford is recruiting him how good can he be”. i responded saying that he may have that one right. Then they were saying how I was bashing the player and how the thread should be locked. Some people cant face the truth.
I struggle with bashing players
For instance, someone sent me a photo of a certain guard who looks about 240lbs. We need to cut this player. How should I write that article? He’s probably at a point where he doesn’t qualify for a medical hardship (not being able to keep weight isn’t enough).
Would I take Bright based solely on his playing abilities? No way.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
We can all see what is happening at Byrnes. Now will I root for him once he gets here. Of course. But at the same time I am not going to think he is the second coming of John Lynch ike some posters think just becuase he comitted to us. I wish him all the best and hope he proves me wrong, we all know we need playmakers at that postion.
BTW, your are getting some pub in the rivals mainboard…how come a lot of the fsu posters dont like you?? oh thats right….you dont BS them
by ChileanNole on Jan 15, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Connecting the DOTs
Warchant is one of the biggest FSU sites on rivals. They view us as competition. Does Rivals.com (the network) want one of their best sites losing people?
The cool thing is that you can google FSUncensored and find Tomahawk Nation that way. No real need to link us. Buzz words work as well.
or just google {FSU bloger}
thats how I found it and when Im on a new computer at work. I put it in the fav box so all 50+ computers at work (Im in Columbia SC home of the gamecocks) I love this
by Desman on Jan 15, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I got the link for this site on the mainboard. Posted by SureNole (wonder who that was, haha)
Around the Miami game, I think. Read for about a month then decided to join.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
some husker poster
pointed out today’s blog and then a couple of FSU fans came and tried to discredit FSUncensored, however a couple of other fans that came to site before the thread was deleted had compliments and called Uncensored a straight shooter, may have even been a gator that said that.
That's fine
I’ve been wrong before. I don’t work for FSU so everything I get is 2nd hand (and sometimes 3rd hand)
Well and we know that
Dont take this the wrong way…but I dont come here for inside sources. I like that you are more of a straight shooter and are not afraid to say things that other places cant for fear of repercusions or losing benefits with the university.
I come here for analysis, which is unparallel, and to talk to other down to earth FSU fans that dont believe everything is all fine and dandy and drink all the FSU Kool Aid.
I approve this message.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Totally agree
I come here for the thoughts, which are of high quality.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
I stodd up for you though
They were saying there was a reason why you got banned. I said is because you dont care about the backlash from FSU and dont drink the Kool-Aid.
This is the best FSU site on the web BAR NONE.
In a close second is nolefan.org
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
The Deadline to Declare for the Draft
is midnight tonight and from everything I know everyone is back and enrolled in class (except Brown of course) , so we should be done as far as underclassmen declaring.
As for the NCAA Report I think the final ruling should be delivered next week. The two sides where negotiating, like FSUncensored said, because when it’s done both sides want it done, no appeals.
This along with hopefully convincing Downs to play safety
Should be the 2 most important things for our defense to go from good to great
I think otherwise
on this. I know a lot of people want him at safety because of the All-Star game performance. That was a lot of peoples first time seeing him, but if you have seen him throughout the year I think he is much better at WR. He is a special playmaker that doesn’t come around all that often. I hate to say Peter Warrick, but I honestly feel if he keeps his grades straight he is the closest thing will have have to Peter and that includes the returning WRs. A playmaker like that you get the ball to as much as you can, and that’s on offense.
Calling all tutors! The LEGIT ones please.
Yes, Mincey will be really important this year.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
Just because I didn't want it to get lost above, and because it makes me happy.
Looks like Harvin is gone.
Spikes is staying.
Uncensored, what is your confidence level in this info?
All sounds right on, just checking.
I assume we can expect your reaction after it’s made official and we hear T.K.‘s (or his puppet’s) spin? Looking forward to it.
Gotta run.
P.S. Real quick, everyone reading this – sky doesn’t fall too hard when you’re prepared for this stuff, does it? Get ready for some serious melt-down in the Nole idiotsphere.
Hard to assign a number
“About double” could mean 9, or even 11 (we had originally assessed 5). I’d be very surprised if they stretched the scholarship losses to four years, for example.
They could change some of this through the negotiation process and I expect that they will.
The NCAA will get theirs. The question is: where does it come from? How much, in terms of other sports, does a Track Nat’l Championship cost?
I'm happy wins are taken away
From Bobby. I’m sure he’s a competitive guy. So him and Joe Pa fighting for the top in total wins definately mattered. In fact , after the ruling is announced. I wouldn’t be shocked at all if he hung it up now. I don’t have the inside info on bowden like a lot of other posters have. But those are my views :)
Apparently BB contract has not been renewed yet.
What could be the hold up?
If the all-time record is nowhere in sight...
Would he have a reason to come back?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Losing the wins and the bowl streak record
I know that I’ve just posted how Bowden’s best was better than Urban’s, which might make it seem like I’m stuck in the past— BUT— I am not, and I want Bowden gone, I want anyone who thinks they are entitled to anything gone (im looking at you Chuck). The present and future is what matters.
This could be a great thing to happen to our program. Hopefully we are shaken out of our complacency and Bobby leaves next year.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
anyone see spikes
in the OU game? I know he played, was just making a joke at his lack of productions lols
I was surprised to hear that
Spikes would be a top 20 pick imo. At least Harvin is gone.
Can someone make sure that my entire article is not posted on warchant?
http://floridastate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1078&tid=119943846&mid=119943846&sid=1061&style=2
Don’t copy what they have over there, just want to make sure my articles aren’t showing up there in full.
Speaking of Warchant...
FSUncencored:
If we were to base this site vs. Warchant presently, I’d say you have the best recruiting class of anyone as far as quality posters. I have dabbled in the forums over there as a lurker for quite a while and must say I’d be surprised if over 25% of the posting population there is above high school.
Free speech is something that is definitely not embraced or encouraged there, in my opinion.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
One of my worries is this site becomes Warchant North (or whatever).
however, that will NEVER happen.
This site’s posting core would never allow it. Besides, the 100000% homer (FSU gets every 5 star) posters will never stay.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Warchant
I agree that free speech is not welcome over there. If you ever say anything that one of their mods dosen’t like, they ban you.
Dude if you get more hits today
you owe me…I just really like this site. LOL
ChileanNole for admin…just kidding the people at my job wouldnt be too happy
Percy is gone.
So a kid close to the program tells me…
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Gators read this site
FYI- a gator copied and pasted your write up today on gatorbait’s premium message board and posted a link to the website.
Not a recruiting thread
but this is one more reason not to take Justin Bright.
FSUinC, delete this if too off topic.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
sorry Chilean, just saw your thread lol
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
BS
F the NCAA and their BS. Yeah, I could care less about the 2007 wins bolstering Bowden’s record, but I don’t want to hear more negative crap about FSU. Taking the wins away is very bad publicity. All of this because of an irrelevant online class. Stupid in my opinion. We already forfeited the Music City Bowl and the Wake game because of that crap, and offered up some scholarships. Morons.
This dysfunctional coaching hierarchy is not helping us reach our goals.
Dunbar Done
I have been told by multiple people and seen it reported that Emmanuel(sp?) Dunbar will be medically disqualified, will stay on scholarship to finish school, but will not count towards our limit. Thats one down, I would think Brandon Davis gets this also, then Mo Harris transfers, and D’Vo goes pro in baseball. I would like to see Gresham transfer also but losing two along with Nicholson would hurt the backers alot. So thats four. Maybe Trickett makes Furlong transfer with how well Spurlock played this year.
by kyled on Jan 15, 2009 6:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this, and thanks for the E-Mail.
One idea: if we cut Furlong and Davis and Ganguzza (all of which shouldn’t ever be considered for starting jobs at a major school).
O-Line Losses
Ya it would be tough to lose three interior players at once but we are bringing in two with Snider all ready in school for the spring semester and then Oreleus coming in the summer. Furlong can never put on weight. Ganguzza seems small also. And I meant Evan Bellamy that had the blood clot not Brandon Davis earlier.
I think we plan
to Redshirt snyder and faircloth.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 16, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
We absolutely cannot afford to lose both Gresham and Harris.
They may suck, but they add depth. Have you looked at our LBs for 2010? Have you seen what we are recruiting so far at LB? We would be pretty much hosed beyond belief.
I don’t want to be Debbie Downer but OU got their schollies back after lodging a protest. Frankly I doubt in the final analysis games will be lost although I could care less. It is more important to the administration and BB than it is to me. I hope he does forfeit. There should be a price for nepotism that affects BB also.
By the way did I say this was a great site, it is?
Of course being a geriatric Nole, I am skeptical of FSUuncensored studying law being a retired federal agent. I say this after a lifetime of trying to keep the street safe as opposed to releasing the criminal element on a hapless society. …..Just kidding here guy we always knock lawyers until we need one ourselves! Yes I have needed one myself.
I am very proud that a Seminole student would take on the responsibility to handle this site. You are doing a great job.
Doc, I didn't know that
re: the scholarship losses.
And thanks for the props. I really stress, however, that our members make this site. I see myself as sort of the conductor. People say “hey, heard this is going on”. I check it out and try to make a post on the matter.
Quality commentators like yourself drive the site.
I’d be interested in that especially since you feel that the reason this is taking so long is because FSU is fighting on certain fronts to prevent an appeal.
I'll look into it.
The question I have is “are we screwing up again by trying to negotiate rather than just going through the standard channel (appeal).”
by Bud Elliott on Jan 16, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I left this out
What happened to the USC investigation? Is the lesson here, never self report?
FSU tried to do the right things and how did it work out?
That red suit is awesome
Reminds me of the one Sidney Lowe occasionally breaks out for a big NC State game.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Jan 15, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not out of the loop
For any of you that think I am out of the loop I am willing to share my itunes with you! Anybody interested in Credence Clearwater Revival, Rod Stewart, Bob Dylan, Cat Stevens, Beatles?
I have more modern stuff like Ray Lynch and Yanni!
Being a former agent, I'm not sure if your trying to bust us or just joking around... j/k
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
Players we can stand to lose
I have put together a list of players that I think we can stand to lose. Maybe not all of them at once due to the hit it will make on our depth but these are guys that I do not see contributing for our team.
Mister Alexander
D’Vo
Maurice Harris
Aaron Grasham
A.J. Ganguzza
Evan Bellamy
Will Furlong
Cameron Wade
Emmanuel Dunbar
Richard Goodman
Thats 10 kids that I do not see making a significant contribution to our team next season. With the scholarship cuts we could select 6-7 kids out of that list and end their scholarship.
What about Josh Dobbie?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Nailed it
Really, you hit the nail on the head. That list is full of guys who, for whatever reason, simply are extremely unlikely to ever make a contribution.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 16, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Re: Players we can stand to lose
D’Vo – No No No. The kid is a ballar. He played Safety in HS too.
Will Furlong – Giving up way to early. Trickett like him and he was the starting until he got hurt.
Cameron Wade – Over a 50% chance he transfer. The same will urge him to try elsewhere, he will get jump in the depth chart by the new WR coming in too.
Emmanuel Dunbar – Done. Will not be medially cleared. He will remain on scholarship to finish is degree but it won’t count against football.
Richard Goodman
D'Vo
would have to learn a new position. Given his past issues, I don’t know how capable he is of that switch.
Furlong— cannot gain weight. Some have said he has some sort of blood issue.
That’s Furlong on the left. Trickett wants his guards to be 290-305 as juniors and seniors. What do you think he weighs?
Cameron Wade— let’s force the transfer now.
Emmanuel Dunbar— correct. The technical term is “Med DQ Exemption”
Goodman— your Wade analysis without the transfer part.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 16, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
we need to be careful right now at the WR spot.
we have 5 WR comeing back and if we lose Cameron Wade that leave us with only 4. We have 3 WR and one Ath comeing in as of right now and maybe one of the DB that might switch. I know FSU needs to keep there players playing and get ride of the extra right now but if we get in trouble again this year where we lose 3 WR for a game. ouch now you have one vet and 3 true Fr. playing in a game. thats a lot of presure on the RB??? Im guessing between Jones and Thomas who will be So. this could turn into a young off again. I just think FSU needs to look at what they have and if this spring people dont want to play and dont show any improvement in pos where we have a lot like LB is the only one realy.(Cant see where the Current Redshirt/Grayshirt are)
Tavares Pressley
I don’t know if I’m too worried about your concerns. First off, there’s no reason why we should ever have three WRs suspended for a game. That doesn’t happen often, and I don’t expect Reed, Easterling or Surrency to continue to be on the team if that were to happen again. Second off, Fortson, Parker, Owens are all coming back. How many receivers do you need to be veterans? We also should consider using the two TE sets more often if we get Charles.
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