MBB Game 18: Maryland 73 at Florida State 76
by TrueCubbie on Jan 16, 2009 4:00 PM EST
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Maryland Terrapins at Florida St. Seminoles, Jan 17, 2009 12:00 PM EST
ACC:1 FSU:2
On Tuesday night, the Seminoles made their way to Raleigh and walked away with a 78-65 win against NC State. Not to be too cliched, but that was a must win game. After battling against an outstanding Duke team, the Noles were a set up for a dissapointment against the Wolfpack. Instead, our team battled through periods of mental mistakes to win by 13. Our offense took on a different style/tempo and we made a statement.
This afternoon, we take on the Terps from Maryland at home. This is a must win game. Our team needs the confidence that we can win regularly in the ACC. Maryland is coming off a disapointing loss against Miami.
Let's take a look at the match up and a few final thoughts on the NC State game.
I'm posting this early due to the early game time on Saturday, allowing some discussion to occur.
Hopefully, our win over the Wolfpack will mark the day that Deividas Dulkys had his coming out party. Dulkys, a 6'3 to 6'4 guard, from Lithuania was the 67th ranked player by rivlals.com and ranked 14th overall at the shooting guard position. I couldn't find many recruiting videos on him but here is one from you tube. He's number 4 in the video. Make sure you don't blink at the end or you will miss him. Here is his highschool team's video and another cameo appearance. During many a game thread, we have discussed the erratic play of Loucks and many have asked who is that #4 guy....it's Dulkys. Our friends at Noles sports have taken notice as well. Dulkys played a great game and proved that he could play at both ends of the court. Even Hamilton was excited by his play: "I thought his defense was consistent the entire nigh. That's a pleasant surprise. Sometimes you have freshmen that have been offensive players all of their lives, but then they come to college and you challenge them to play defense. But he has accepted that challenge." Look for more of Dulkys in the games to come. This kid can shoot and if we can mature our offense, he will be putting up some ridiculous numbers on the offensive end.
I'm excited that Dulkys is starting to get more minutes and I'm delighted that Gibson is making more appearances. This is a talented team that is as deep as any other team in the country. As Douglas said: " We go 10 and 11 deep and everybody's playing together." Against NC State, we only turned the ball over on 17% of our possessions, the second fewest all year. We did extremely well on the offensive boards and we got to to the free throw line. We barely made it to the line against Duke. Free throw shooting is a hallmark of Hamilton teams: get there often and shoot lights out. Hamilton's overall impression of the game was the following: "We were able to get some stops on defense and kept executing our offense. For the first time on the road in an ACC game, we showed some poise and confidence." Now we need to do it at home...
Gary Williams's team is 12-4 this year and has had a surprisingly difficult OOC schedule, playing the likes of Georgetown, Gonzaga, Michigan St. and Michigan. They are 1-1 in conference play, beating Georgia Tech at home 68-61, a game in which they were down for almost the entire game. They made a big come back late in the second quarter to steal the win. They only shot 31.5% from the floor that game and only 19% (5-26) from three point land. A few nights later, they lost a heart breaker to Miami on the road, leading from the start only to lose by 2 allowing the 'Canes to rally from 17 down. Jack McClinton, one of Miami's outstanding offensive players, drained a 3 with 24 seconds to go to seal the victory. Maryland is in a tough spot, losing a tight game on the road to Miami and having to follow it up with a game at the Tucker Center against a defensive minded, aggressive Florida State team.
Let's take a look at Maryland....
| Category | Offense | Defense | D-I Avg |
|---|---|---|---|
| Adj. Efficiency: | 103.2 [122] | 88.8 [24] | 100.2 |
| Adj. Tempo: | 70.0 [80] | 67.4 | |
| Four Factors | |||
| Effective FG%: | 46.3 [257] | 44.9 [50] | 48.7 |
| Turnover %: | 17.7 [26] | 24.1 [34] | 21.0 |
| Off. Reb. %: | 35.2 [105] | 33.5 [173] | 33.3 |
| FTA/FGA: | 28.6 [318] | 25.6 [17] | 36.2 |
| Miscellaneous Components | |||
| 3P%: | 31.6 [252] | 32.0 [91] | 34.0 |
| 2P%: | 45.9 [235] | 43.5 [51] | 47.6 |
| FT%: | 78.8 [6] | 61.7 [10] | 68.5 |
| Block%: | 8.7 [166] | 12.6 [38] | 8.9 |
| Steal%: | 8.0 [37] | 11.9 [50] | 10.0 |
| Style Components | |||
| 3PA/FGA: | 28.0 [276] | 32.0 [133] | 33.1 |
| A/FGM: | 55.5 [145] | 52.0 [114] | 54.5 |
| Point Distribution (% of total points) | |||
| 3-Pointers: | 23.0 [276] | 29.1 [116] | 27.6 |
| 2-Pointers: | 57.4 [55] | 56.0 [61] | 52.1 |
| Free Throws: | 19.6 [200] | 14.9 [330] | 20.3 |
If you haven't noticed...Pomeroy has updated his formatting. A couple of things immediately jump out. They do not shoot the ball well at all and they don't get to the line. Currently, Maryland is ranked 51st overall in the Pomeroy ratings. We are 59th and moving up the board quickly. Their offense is ranked 122 and their defense is ranked 24th. We rank 173rd (much improved) and 14th, respectively. Last year, the Terps went 19-15 overall and finished 8-8 in the ACC, losing in the second round of the NIT to Syracuse. They are returning 70% of possible returning minutes and are projected to go 7-9 in conference play this year. I don't think that will happen. Gary Williams's team is not playing up to expectations. They lost to Gonzaga 81-59, Georgetown 75-48 and Morgan St. 66-65.
So...what does Maryland do well? Play defense. Maryland is holding their opponents to 56 points per game, which is 56th nationally and 4th in the conference, only allowing 0.88 points per possession. Part of this is due to the fact that they don't allow teams to get to the line. Miami only made it to the free throw line 9 times. I would be upset if FSU didn't make it to the stripe at least 9 times in the first half. They also block a high percentage of shots and challenge shots well. They also force a high percentage of turnovers, particulary by stealing the ball. This presents an interesting challenge for the Noles. We are one of the worst teams in the country at turning the ball over, losing the ball on almost 24% of our possessions and allowing steals on 10.1% of our possessions (this has been creeping up recently). In general, we don't allow many steals...huh? We make a lot of sloppy plays and poor decisons, but in general, Douglas et al. protect the ball relatively well. If we can keep our turnover rate low we should be fine.
Clearly our defense is our bread and butter. Maryland does not shoot the ball well.
Pomeroy writes that the key to winning games is taking care of the "four factors." Recently, Maryland has seen a drop in their shooting percentage and offensive rebounding percentage:
Compare this chart to FSU:
I think the general trend to notice with our chart is that the TO% is decreasing and the overall OR% is increasing. Shooting the ball well is key, but it's tough to follow this trend...obviously, we're decreasing but:
We have typically kept our opponents eFG& below ours. Keep in mind that this is weighted for 3 point field goals. We are one of the best teams in the country against the 2 and teams typically shoot the deep ball better against us as a result and may be reflected in some falsely elevated eFG%.
Here are the match ups:
Point Guard:
Adrian Bowie 6'2 190 So 10.4 ppg eFG% 50.7% 2.6 apg 1.3 apg 1.1 AT Ratio
Toney Douglas 6'2 205 Sr 18.5 ppg 49.7% 2.6 apg 2.0 apg 0.9 AT Ratio
Bowie has been asked to take on a huge responsibility as point guard at Maryland in his sophomore year. Last year, he was plagued by turnovers. This year, he continues to do the same, turning it over on 22.6% of possessions. He does return the favor on the other end stealing the ball 2.9% of his opponents possessions. He also gets to the line quite often and distributes the ball well. Douglas should win this match up. If Coach K said he would love to have Douglas on his team, we shouldn't worry about Toney's performance in this game.
Shooting Guard:
Greivis Vasquez 6'6 190 Jr 17.8 ppg 47.6 eFG% 4.9 apg 1.6 spg 6.1 rpg
Jordan Demercy 6'7 208 So 4.1 ppg 43.1 eFG% 2.4 apg 1.1 spg 3.4 rpg
Vasquez is their top player, with the highest ORtg and playing 84% possible minutes. He gets the ball on 26% of their possessions and takes 27% of their shots. Once again, DeMercy will have his handsful if he starts. Kitchen got the nod last time. Vasquez also does a nice job on the defensive boards and actually distributes the ball well for a bigger guard. His turnover percentage has improved from last year, but like Bowie, he will turn the ball over. We need to shut him down early and prevent him from geting off to a good start. He is also shooting a ridiculous 94% from the FT line.
Small Forward:
Eric Hayes 6'4 184 Jr 10 ppg 49.2 eFG% 3.4 apg 3.3 apg
Chris Singleton 6'9 220 Fr 9.2 ppg 49.1 eFG% 0.9 apg 6.1 apg
So I guess this isn't a fair match up and I shouldn't list Hayes as a small forward...Vasquez may have been better to discuss here, but Vasquez really is a true 2 guard. Maryland goes small and starts a three guard line up. This is not a fair match up for either Singleton or Hayes and don't expect to see this at all. I needed to put Hayes somewhere. Hayes contributes on the offensive end, distributes the ball well and otherwise uses up a lot of minutes. Singleton continues to impress me and look for him to dominate in this game. Maryland has no inside presence and Singleton can play anywhere on the floor.
Power Forward:
Landon Milbourne 6'7 207 Jr 12 ppg 52.8% eFG% 5.3 rpg 1.3 block/game
Ryan Reid 6'8 235 Jr 6.8 ppg 45% eFG% 4.0 rpg 0.8 block/game
Milbourne is their seond best overall player and likely their best offensive player, if you use the ORtg. He shoots the bal extremely well, rarely turns the ball over and generates steals and blocks. He is their offensive rebounder along with Vasquez. Reid didn't start the last game and at the time of writing this I have no idea if he will start again. Keeping Milbourne quiet will be key to this game. He plays bigger than his 6'7.
Center:
Dave Neal 6'7 263 Sr 7.6 ppg 4.6 rpg 0.1 block/game
Solomon Alabi 7'1 241 Fr 7.1 ppg 5.6 ppg 2.0 block/game
Obviously, our height is a huge advantage in this game. Even if Maryland goes small, we can counter with big athletic guards that can keep up with smaller guards. Neal shoots the ball well and rarely turns it over and plays productive minutes on both ends. His ORtg is 113, second best on the team. He wasn't expected to make a huge contribution this year in the pre-season. Look for Alabi to have a huge game. There is no reason we can't shut down the paint area and clean up on the offensive boards.
Maryland's other contributers are Sean Mosely, a freshman and Cliff Tucker, a sophomore. So why is Maryland so good...They don't turn the ball over and they score a lot of points at the free throw line. What do we do well...we limit our opponents ability to get to the line, only allowing 20.4% of our oppnents poinst from the line. We score 24.7% of our points at the line. We also close out on jump shots, allowing teams to shot only 40% from the floor, 11th best in the nation. This is largely due to Alabi and company shutting down the paint.
Maryland is a deceptively good team and has won some good games in their OOC schedule: Michigan, MSU, Georgia Tech (barley). Despite Pomeroy thinking we have a slim chance to win this game, I think we take care of business and continue to make our case to be in the NCAA tournament.
Thoughts?
Go NOLES!
(Unfortunately, I won't be home in time to catch the game with you all. Enjoy! The game will be televised on raycom. Check out justin.tv to see if anyone has a live feed for you.)
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Great Job
- I tent to prefer our match up when we play great shooting teams as I know we can limit their ability to shoot. It is teams like Maryland (though their offense isn’t any good) that scare me because our shot supression probably doesn’t have such a dramatic effect on them that it would on a great shooting team.
- Maryland won’t be able to win this game unless they score 12 points off of Seminole turnovers. The key is NOTHING CHEAP. Box out, continue not to foul, and Make Maryland work.
- I would player slower in this game. A very deliberate pace could favor us, despite our success in Raleigh, because we’re not going to get fast break stuff against Maryland like we did against the ’Pack. I want us to be deliberate on offense, protect the ball, and physically beat Maryland in an ugly game controlled by our size.
- Excellent use of visual aides. :)
Prediction: FSU 66, Maryland 58
Game will be closer then we will hit our free throws to widen the final margin.
Having a size advantage usually helps in drawing fouls.
I expect we get to the line and when we do we must knock em down.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Our size advantage will help us significantly...however our FT attempts and FT% rate have decreased significantly, particularly in the last two games.
Clearly, they were against better competition. Even against the likes of Cal, Cinci and UF we did a much better job getting to the line.
There is no reason that Alabi, Singleton, Reid and Echefu shouldn’t have great games. One of the four will stand out as Maryland can’t match up. Unfortunately, Singleton is really the only regular offensive threat of the bunch.
I'm worried about focus...
I may be wrong, but we seem to lose defensive focus for stretches when we can’t score. It’s only after timeouts or a crazy play from TD that we gain it back. I think the biggest factor in this game will be Alabi on the defensive glass and Singleton on the offensive glass. I bet there’s going to be a lot of errant shots and our ability to control what falls off the rim will dictate our ability to score and win.
Interesting you mention an ugly game.
Maryland is one of those teams, along with Clemson, that we just seem to always play ugly games with. Hopefully we can assert our will and they don’t come up with another crazy-named African guy who shoots like he’s throwing darts but somehow they fall.
MattD and I were discussing that we all need to use more visual aides
We realized that TNation went the entire week without an Image from him or myself. TC is again the shining example. I love the new stuff statsheet is putting out.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 16, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Should we worry about their quickness
with a smaller lineup?
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I got
FSU- 71
Maryland- 64
I haven’t watched Maryland a lot this year, but when I have they haven’t impressed me. I think we are gaining confidence, plus it is a home game for us.
Gamethread?
I think that ESPN Gameplan is on a free preview this week for everyone that has digital cable. Currently the channel that the game should be on is showing chuck norris kick some ass on his total gym.
Game on
I’m here – anybody else watching or listening?
An internet link would be useful…
Like I said before...if you have digital cable the game should be on for free on the ESPN full court channels
I don’t see a Justin.tv link today
Like I said before...if you have digital cable the game should be on for free on the ESPN full court channels
I don’t see a Justin.tv link today
Unfortunate start to the game
They hit a ridiculous 3 as the shot clock was running out and then we made an errant pass into their halfcourt trap. But from what I’ve seen so far, if we can beat their halfcourt trap this game we should completely dominate them. They have no answer for our size
Down 9-6, 5 min. in
Need to control our glass!
As someone posted, ESPN Full Court is on a free trial right now. On DirectTV, the game is on ch. 721.
GO NOLES!
by thirdcoastnole on Jan 17, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions
MD on 6-0 run
Down 11-6 – all half court so far 12:46 to go
Watch for a huge run right here by us.
Once our offense starts scoring, expect the defensive intensity to pick up.
Weas... mornin... how we playing?
Got a late start
by Bud Elliott on Jan 17, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Not well
Reminicient of that NU game. You can clearly tell we are better but were just not executing. A lot of our offensive success has been lucky. TrueCubbie was spot on with the size analysis
Need to handle the press
Loucks with a second 3
Up 6!
yea. beautiful slam by demercy though
by thirdcoastnole on Jan 17, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
if we control our defensive boards
We could win this going away
Nice shots
Loucks with 2 straight threes! We should punish them with our size, alabi needs to not panic when he gets the ball and just go strong with it.
MD off rebound
Results in easy put-back :(
Are we just not blocking out?
That was in another fight for a rebound…
by CelticPride on Jan 17, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
It was a weird bounce off the rim and the ball was going out of bounds
Maryland defender was holding him and Loucks was just trying to get separation
Alabi needs to become more of a factor
Maryland is denying him the ball on the block. We need to just toss him allyoops as he separates.
Need to keep the ball
The charges on made baskets are killing us.
by CelticPride on Jan 17, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Another off board by MD
results in a 2 pt. lead
We can’t keep on giving up 3 shots a possession.
Finally a fast break basket
TD with the steal and the hoop
Up 2 at the half
Alabi blocks the last second attempt by MD
Turnovers and the glass
They have Eight more shots than we do.
Need to value the ball more
Halftime
This is ugly game so far. This game shouldn’t even be close. Hopefully one of the couches chews out Alabi and rolls off like 30 points. They should not be able to stop him at all.
1st Half Thoughts... Game tied at 27
- We have 7 turnovers, but 3 of them have been offensive fouls, meaning Maryland has not been able to hit easy breakaways.
- The refs won’t call 5 charges in the 2nd half like they did the 1st
- Alabi played well when he was in there
- Worrisome rebounding, Ham needs to get on these guys.
- We need to get to the line.
- Maryland should shoot better in the 2nd half (slightly), but they are winning because they have 8 more shots than we do.
- Can hamilton adjust?
GTech is clearly the basement team, while
NCST still has a chance to equal our goal (a 7-9 record)
by Bud Elliott on Jan 17, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Did I really just hear a gator championship t-shirt commercial
Talk about no knowing your audience.
The commentators mentioned we got away from the inside game
I wonder if they failed to notice Maryland quit the halfcourt trap to sit back more and that’s why those points went away
I think it's going to be hard for Maryland to get back in the game at this point
I could be wrong and Gary could make some changes, but I think we’ve figured out how to put this one away barring some mental lapses
Don't jinx us baby
I’ve seen us do worse
Don't get me wrong
I hope you’re right.
But we need to avoid turnovers and control the glass
There’s a long way to go (16 min)
Game's not on in Northern VA
thus i depend on y’all for a comprehensive game report. Dont Let Me Down haha
Yeah, fair. I, for one, never went to a noon saturday game
But the ultimate potential still looks a bit small. Wish we could expand the student section seating
I never like to log in and see the words turnover associated with us...not surprised.
Excellent posts everyone…sorry…but I can only join for this post. On my home after being on call…lets hope the Alabi-oop connects more often and we walk away with it at the end. Look forward to reading the rest of the posts. Cheers
Turnovers on consecutive possessions
MD cuts it to 3 with the ball
Wow
fourth on their leading scorer with more than 14 left
When we can out-athlete our competition we can look really good
When we’re forced to out-basketball them, however, we can look really bad
Dulkys and Loucks give me great hope for the future
Singleton seems blue-chip. Demercy is intriguing. But Dulkys and Loucks look like good glue guys.
I think we've found that Bowie is the catalyst for their success
When he gets back in the game we need to go at him and hope we can get him to foul out. Vasquez hasn’t really done anything.
That fourth foul was huge
three pt.s for us Bowie gone for a while
Nice outlet
and finish by Loucks. We are looking great right now, we just have to finish strong!
This is complete BULLSH&T
These refs are gifting the game. Calling nonsense fouls on us and not giving us any reaches when were attaching their trap
Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers
7:22 left
Lead down to 4
This will probably come down to FT shooting.
Which should work out for us, but we should really just put them away.
Gave up two chances again
But the lead is held to 4
Good timeout?
Shoulda come when they cut it to 6
If this comes down to strategy, Williams will own Hamilton
How can we be totally dumbfounded by a zone?
Are the refs really rooting for UMD
Or is it just the announcer?
Bowie with number 5
We crash the boards and Kitchen gets 2 ft’s up 4
I like running the clock
Would have been good to have the points though…
2 noles fight for offensive board
And knocked it out of bounds :(
that seemed to appen a lot in the early games
it is hard to critisize that effort. Maybe better communication would help, but it is hard to talk when fighting for a ball.
Just joining in
I heard some on Terrapin radio. Are we still clueless against their zone defense?
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Well, they bailed us out with a foul, and we hit one 3, but...
FSU has made 2 shots in the last 9 nminutes
if you have satellite tv or digital cable, ESPN Full Court is free right now so you can watch game
by thirdcoastnole on Jan 17, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
My wife is hogging the TV
right now watching some chicks show. I lost my man card when I got married.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
AUGH!!!!
MD Off rebound followed by and-1 converted
Hard to win
when you give up a lot of 2nd chance shots and get destroyed on the boards.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Tie f'ing game
Can’t score vs. the zone
Turning it over
We led by 12 at the 10 minute mark
we can’t rebound at all, MD has 14 pts off putbacks (at least)
We’ve made 2 shots in the last 10:01
How good is Maryland?
About as good as us?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Sounded like Dougelas
was forcing the 3 on the radio. Impatience and Inexperience?
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
What a bad possession
33 seconds and not one shot. No way we do anything here with 2 seconds left.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
2 seconds on the shot clock
ball left with ~90 sec.s left
Great look there
Maryland is just as bad on their possession though.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
singleton airball
need some stops down the stretch
Dangerous pass but it worked out
Kitchen!
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
GET THE REBOUND!
Take the last shot, guys.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
yeah, that was a
weak defensive attempt at the board.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I'd rather them box out
and get physical than trying to time jumps from the free throw line. Thats poor fundamentals and out of control basketball.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I thought we were the tallest team in the nation?
We must have the worst vertical leap in the nation.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
16 offensive rebounds? Our defensive rebound rating will plummet
We really suck at that. Lack of boxing out.
They are just trying to use athleticism instead of boxing out
terrible.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
The ball hit the rim and the clock reset
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 17, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
THAT was the shot????????????????????
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
What went wrong on that play:
1. We threw it all the way on the other side of the court to Toney essentially wasting 3 seconds or so
2. No picks were set
3. Nobody made a cut to the basket
4. Toney didn’t look to pass the ball
Other than that though, great job by Leonard!
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
I mean, was the play actually a designed 3 by Toney?
Cause it sure looked like it.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 17, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
??????????
he’s committed
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
I know, it was a joke
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 17, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
hard to recognize sarcasm
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Good shot by Toney
Let’s grab some boards now.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
How is that a goaltend?
First of all he was fouled.
Second of all, the ball barely left his hand.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
We're playing like idiots
Why foul? Maryland can’t make a shot, don’t give them free ones!
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Never hit the rim
It’s Maryland’s ball.
I can’t believe we had 35 seconds and that was the best shot we could find.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Don't know if we've got 'em
Might be a 24 sec violation
he got fouled b4 the shot clock went off
We better get these
Too close to call, can't overturn this
Should be our ball now that I have seen it again.
Terrible shot, anyway.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Whistle time doesn't matter
It matters when he got fouled!
I think what he's referring to is that the clocks are programmed to stop when the ref blows the whistle
but i believe you are correct that it shoudln’t matter when the whistle blows on this type of play.
Up 1
Singleton looks like he’s going to the line for 2 – tv timeout
If we pull this out
It’s b/c we hit our ft’s and MD missed theirs in OT
jump ball they changed it to
Just get it in to Toney and tell him to wait to be fouled.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Bad inbounds play
1 guy was there to get the ball and he nearly caught it out of bounds.
Toney needs to make the 2nd.
Yes, we’re up 3, 5.5 seconds left.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 17, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I like the play, fouling him
It’s a smart move.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Our ball
But still, that was close. Too close.
Just chuck it deep here.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Miss the 2nd FT here
Slam it off the rim.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Don't foul ther're shooting on contact.
We win.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
YAHHHHHHH BABYYYYYYYY
shouldnt have been anywhere near that close. Gonna be a lotta zone practice next week
And a lot of defensive rebounding practice
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 17, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I hope so
We are doing a lot better against the press, so hopefully we can do the same wih the zone.
Nailbiter
Wow, don’t know if we deserved that
They missed 4 ft’s in OT
We didn't play well in the end
But an ACC win is still a good thing.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
i cant believe we squandered away the solid lead.
definitely need to be studying the zone. it gave us hell in the second half.
nevermind.
Miami is going to give us fits. UVA should be an easy win.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
an easy win with this team?
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Really?
After watching them play against UNC they were just outright awful.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I mean....
I know its UNC, but it was ugly.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Shows how much I know about college basketball...
sorry. They were just super undisciplined, couldn’t hold onto the ball, and didn’t know how to get open shots.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
A win is a win
insert “hellz yeah” asian woman pic.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
NC St beats GA Tech
I believe that’s good for us…
I love watching Wake play. Clemson too.
really, the whole ACC is great to watch.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
TC
You need to write a letter to Alabi demanding he become a presence down low. If you can get your hand above the rim without jumping you should not have a problem beating a team whose tallest player is 6’7
Seriously.
He has so so so much potential. I think his fear is making mistakes and he becomes passive. Learning to play with your back to the basket is a difficult task as you really need to understand your positioning on your court and the defensive player’s leverage. There is on reason he shouldn’t be able to back a guy down and simple drop a little hook over his head. He doesn’t need to dunk every play, he doesn’t need to take 10 foot jump shots. Simple releases off the back board is all he needs to do. Too often young post players try to get the ball in with out using the back board and they frequently miss. It is too difficult a shot from down low to try and swish it….why do you think kids are taught to use the back board on a lay up? I don’t care if you’re 7’1, use the glass. You’re more likely to get a better bounce and it may allow you to get in better position for a board as the ball will like bounce up off the rim rather than slip off to the side.
Alabi is patient on defense and that is why he has so many blocks, but he doesn’t attack the boards. He typically gets boxed out by smaller players who fight for position. He has shown moments of brilliance. Unfortunately, he doesn’t play a ton of minutes, which is not atypical for a big man. I think as his confidence builds and his game minutes build, he will become a more effective player. Watch out for him in a couple of years.
I added the chart
MD got an offensive rebound on over 38% of their misses.
Our turnovers weren’t quite horrible- 19%
The rebounds stand out....no excuse for that with our size.
The others look pretty good. Nice to see that we got to the line often. I need to take a look at the numbers. I’ll post more about the game later. I’m bummed I missed it as it seemed like a hell of a game to watch down the stretch. Fortunately, we got the win. I’ll be interested to see the rankings after this. Our RPI should be about the same and I wouldn’t be surprised if we get more votes in the AP and Coaches polls.
I really think a lot of the rebounding was just unlucky
From what I saw it looked like we lost maybe half of those rebounds because we had two of our guys going against eachother, unlucky bounces, scrums where there were no foul calls.
But there were a lot of occassions where no one was in the area. I doubt you’ll want to rewatch the game but there were a lot of instances where we were boxing out well and jumping but just mistiming because our pressure defense was redirecting their shots to hit the rim at weird angles.
For the sake of our tournament chances
Let’s hope you are right. This has been a growing problem, however, and one we need to probably address.
Do the Universities
get money for making the tourney? Or is it just help with recruiting? I mean, I suppose it’s an ‘honor’ to go and have a shot, but it sucks when you are hoping to squeak in and maybe win a game.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Winning the NIT may give you more money
than would getting kicked out first round.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Unless i'm a dufus
the scoreboard is wrong. It says FSU outscored nc st by 2 in 1st half and they were outscored by 2 in the 2nd half. Meaning a tie game. But the final score says FSU wins by 3. So i’m confused lols
makes sense then
I’d imagine FSU outscored nc st by 3 in OT to win it. I didn’t see the game or updates. Just looked at the scoreboard
Great win
but we were lucky imo. The last play of regulation was a joke, we call a time out and the play we draw up is a TD 30 footer. Also the zone defense baffled our guys in the 2nd half. Like I said though it was a good win, now lets beat Miami on Wed.
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