Why you should know about Greg Reid
Since these days it is impossible to discuss a recruit without listing how many stars he has, let's begin by saying he is a 4star on both Scout and Rivals.
Scout has him as the 15th best CB in this class. Rivals has him as their 11th rated athlete and a top 250 player overall.
Since that's out of the way, let's get down to brass tax:
In my opinion, Greg Reid might be the most important player left on our board.
The talent difference between UF and Florida State was shocking last November. Even during their most recent National Championship run, I always felt that we were 1 or 2 players away from competing with the Gators. This year, I don't think there was a single player on our team they would trade for straight up. Maybe Everette or Graham, but that's about it. The Gators simply had a better player than we did at virtually every position. As sad as it sounds to say this, I think we need to get back to taking the players they want away from them. We did this with Bert Reed, and I think he has proven he can be a phenomenal playmaker if he can stay on the field. Part of the reason Florida State's run in the 1990s is so impressive is that we consistently had to compete with Florida and Miami for the top local talent. We are dangerously close to letting UF take their fill of the top talent in the area and picking up the pieces after they are done. Getting Reid, a player they wanted and accepted a commitment from over a year ago, would be a step in the right direction in this regard.
Has anyone on this site mentioned in the past month or so that we need corners badly? Because we need corners. Badly. Some of you who have followed my posts may say to yourselves "Oh Reid is just another DB MattD has a bromance with. First there was Hosley, then Thomas, now this Reid guy." Don't be fooled. Reid isn't some diamond in the rough who we may or may not need to take a chance on (I still say we need Thomas). He is a proven playmaker who has been recognized by coaches and scouts alike. His high evaluations from all the major recruiting services, as well as the rave reviews he is getting this week at the Under Armor All Star Game practices show that this guy is a legitimate player. We don't have to worry about whether or not there is enough film on him to offer, Reid's performance has made the decision for us. He is too good to let get away without a fight. Add to that he is a NATURAL corner who has experience at the position and won't need a ton of coaching to learn the spot and he would be a vital addition to this class. Some fans may be scared by his size, but I think his experience playing corner will make up for it. Alphonso Smith is the textbook example we always go back to on this site, and I think it applies here as well. Reid is an extremely talented player at a position we desperately need.
So the $1 million dollar question is: can we get him?
He only recently announced his decommitment, and it hasn't even made its way to all the sites yet, but let's speculate.
The good:
- He's teammates with one of our firmest commitments, Gerald Demps. Maybe the two of them have enjoyed sharing the defensive backfield so much they want to keep doing it at the next level.
- He's semi-local. It's a quick trip to Valdosta, Ga from Tallahassee. Even Dexter Carter can make the drive with his designated coaching chaperon. Our coaches can beat a path to his front door in the coming month.
- He's on the same All Star team as McDaniel, McAllister, and Thompson. Jacobbi has been recruiting hard for us, maybe he can get this one too.
The bad:
- He liked what he saw at UF so much he committed after his Junior season. There's clearly an attraction there that we will have to overcome.
- We have plenty of lazy recruiters. Giving this task to the wrong coach could completely ruin our chances.
- It will be a fight. Reid is a player and a lot of schools are going to be after him. Do we still have the ammunition to win in a recruiting firefight?
- He might have academic issues. After building him up so much, he might not make it into school. It really really hurts when that happens (I'm looking at you, Willie Downs).
My advice, Seminole fans, is when you make your wish list for the next month, right after lax penalties from the NCAA and Chuck Amato getting fired I would include signing Greg Reid.
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There's just so many schools after him
I can’t get excited. He said he’s open to whoever in the ACC or SEC offered him.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Why?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 2, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I think having Demps helps here and
we definitely can offer the chance at very early if not immediate playing time.
That's true
Man, there’s some big time recruits starting to look at FSU late
Reid
Dye
Richardson
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
If that's Trent Richardson... forget it for sure. I was there when the crowd gave him a standing ovation and chanted his name.
If we could get Dye i’d be elated and shocked.
It is Trent... I saw a quote of him published today that gave me the impression
That yes it’s a very long shot, but also no we are not completely out.
If we got any of those 3 I would be very, very, very excited.
And I guess you could add Debose to the list of guys who are liking FSU a bit more come the home stretch.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
We need DE depth though
Even if you think he’s overrated, he still helps fill in the depth chart.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 2, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
MY GOODNESS
I just read something about a pretty good prospect who said we still have a chance and he likes our character.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
why?
are all these guys considering FSU late? due to our young young team and lasting impression on the domination of wisky in the bowl game?
I don't think that is the case at all
First, many of these are lies floated by subscription sites to get new signups. Second, players consider many teams late, not just FSU. In fact, I think you’ll see us close very poorly for the 2nd or 3rd year in a row and people will probably not be able to call Bowden a “great closer” with a straight face.
That said, Reid is a prospect we should reasonably expect to contend for.
Gald you said it about subscription sites.
But hey, if a kid says, “I’ve talked to them,” at an all-star game, then he’s suddenly shown interest, right? That’s front-page material!
P.S. Can’t someone else just be the closer now? We tried it with Percy Harvin. </end bad example>
Is this because we get the recruits earlier now?
Not that that is an excuse for missing out on some of these prospects but if the end result is the same what does it matter?
Not sure why I find this interesting but here you go:
“When I look at the people that are wearing us out, they’ve done a better job of evaluating people,” head coach Bobby Bowden said. “I think we’re doing a better job now, but we have to continue it.”
Found here.
We did a great job at identifying the local talent early. Even thru Oct. we were doing a good job.
Since then, ugh.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
MattD, you're a good writer.
And this is a good article. And you’re right that there’s plenty to be said for “disrupting” a rival’s recruiting class. Bowden didn’t earn the moniker “Saint Bobby” on the recruiting trail. (Actually, in many ways he did, and this is called irony. By the way, this is a compliment.) Also, I think your goods outweigh your bads in landing Reid (maybe I’m just feeling uncharacteristically optimistic this morning), and I agree with you and Uncensored that we’ve got as good a shot as anyone at him right now. I also feel optimistic (for some reason) that bad #2 might finally be working itself out this time around. That said, I’m amazed there hasn’t been any kind of announcement from FSU yet about the status of any of our coaches, and by amazed I mean not suprised at all.
This
then Thomas, now this Reid guy." Don’t be fooled. Reid isn’t some diamond in the rough who we may or may not need to take a chance on (I still say we need Thomas).
Are there people out there who think that we do NOT need Thomas?!?!?
Have they watched this team football play the past 4 years?
Excuse while I go have a stroke.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
I would
love if we could get Reid. We need corners badly, and he looks like a good one. Hopefully our coaches get after him.
Xavier Rhodes
Hopefully we can get Reid and keep Rhodes on the offensive side of the ball. There has been much talk about Rhodes switching to defense which would be a waste. Is Mickey’s announcement going to effect Reid?
Reid has been outstanding in the UA practices
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
secondary
Who are the best guys we could get for DBs right now? Also, what in the concensus about this recruit Bright for safety?
BTW – this is my first post on this website. My compliments to the organizers. I’m a die hard Nole junkie and this site offers the most in-depth analysis anywhere, by far.
I hope we drop Bright. As for the DB board, here is who I think we end up with.
CB Jarvis Byrd
CB Gerald Demps (moves to CB)
S Phillip Thomas (watch his film. . . ridiculous)
S Jawanza Starling
S Justin Bright
S JaJuan Harley
Possibilities: Jayron Hosley (slim), Greg Reid (please)
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
This looks about right to me.
Although I’d say that we have work to do if we are going to get Starling (just don’t have a good feeling).
Also, Thomas should be ours. A competent recruiter would have had him in the fold already. Somebody needs to get on this.
We shouldn't drop Bright
I’ve read reports on him from a lot of different sources. He plays tough, he has a good football body, he is instinctual, he has enough speed. He probably won’t ever be a great player, but sounds like a guy that would be big on special teams and could play some safety as well. Plus there is the Byrnes connection – how do you think the Byrnes coach will think of FSU if we pull a ’ship away from a guy who committed? We can say goodbye to Willis and Miller!
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
I think with the hiring of Kevin Steele Clemson has the state of South Carolina locked down.
Just my feeling though.
Maybe we don’t “drop” Bright, but if he chooses to go to Stanford it wouldn’t be the end of the world.
If he wanted Stanford over FSU he'd pick Stanford
I’d rather we take him in and he doesn’t turn out too good and we still have a great shot at the stuf Byrnes kids over we don’t take him, have an open scholly, give it to some local kid who won’t do any better than Bright, and have no shot at the local Byrnes studs.
Are there really that many more quality guys out there?
Debose
Reid
Charles
Dye
Phillips
Starling
that local RB/FB
the Miami DT
Saunders
Who else do we have a legit shot at? And we have what, 5 more ‘ships left? We don’t even get 5 of those guys listed – we’d be lucky with 4.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
he is Kyler Hall pt. 2
and that isn’t a good thing to be compared to him.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Why?
Because he’s a white safety?
Maybe Phillip Thomas is Roger Williams part 2. Maybe Andre Debose is Chris Davis part 2. Maybe Willie Downs is Deshon Platt part 2 (likely)
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 2, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
And for the record,
We are in no position to take kids like Bright with our sanctions coming. Possible limited ’ships.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Well then we are we offering this FB
And Nico Flores?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 2, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Edit: I guess we're not really offering Flores
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 2, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see how you can find that from online film
Unless he has been 10 feet away from him watching during some drills I don’t see how you can say his hips are too stiff to play at FSU.
Besides, it’s not like he can’t make up for it in other ways. McDaniel is short, Thompson is small, Mizell is a headcase, but we’re still taking all of these kids without hesitation.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 2, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like Mizell has cleaned up his act.
McDaniel is great size for a DT. Good leverage for him.
We have a history of scatbacks. Look at UF now.
Who would you rather have, a stiff safety or a small RB/WR?
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
I'd thrilled about those 3 recruits
I guess it was a bad example… apparently Bright did well in the shrine bowl and I havent heard any scouting reports on him that suggest he can’t be a good contributer at FSU.
I’m sure Mizell has cleaned up his act, but still, what sophomore punches his coach in the face?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 2, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'd first have to ask: Did the coach deserve it?
In all seriousness, if Bright is what we get he’s what we get and I hope he becomes a great safety and I welcome him to FSU.
With our scholarship reductions, if it came down to Bright vs. Thomas I’d take Thomas. Bright vs. Reid I’d take Reid. Bright vs. Starling I’d take Starling. That’s only my personal opinion though.
We might not get Thomas, Reid, OR Starling so I guess Bright will be our safety of the future.
I would suggest we undersign this year if we do not get our five...
and hope we can talk the NCAA into letting us out of some of our sanctions with “scholarships served” or something.
I want to add to the discussion of getting the right coaches on this...
We simply can not leave this job up to Dexter Carter.
I know he’s listed as the primary recruiter for Demps and hopefully has established some connections at Lowndes. Carter simply has not proven himself to be the type of lock down recruiter we are going to need if we are to win this battle.
At the very least, we need Carter AND Dawsey or Coley to get after this kid.
If Carter is the primary recruiter, and he fails, it’s enough reason for me to let him go (although I’ve been looking for the smallest excuse possible).
How is Carter recruiting him?
I thought failing the recruiting test meant he couldn’t be the primary recruiter?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
I think the rumor was that he simply could not go on visits alone and that another coach had to accompany him.
That's embarassing for him
Carter is a joke, he should not be back next year. I got a 34/40 on that test.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
thanks
Thanks for the input on DBs. I know I’m preaching to the choir, I just see that as one if not the most important recruiting needs right now after getting pasted by UF the last few years. Again, I’m a newbie, but it sounds like from your research we have bad follow-up on recruiting – Reid would be great I agree after reading some more about him.
Rivals reported on the top 11 performers in today's UA practice for the Black (THE TEAM'S NAME) squad.
APB Chris Thompson
5-8/173, Greenville (Fla.) Madison County
Though small in stature, Thompson has been the most impressive Black team running back this week. Despite being hobbled by a slight injury, he has shown that he is a true all-purpose back by catching several passes out the backfield and turning them into big gains. He was a favorite target of Gilbert’s on Friday as the QBs didn’t have much time to throw. He was able to turn what seemed like broken plays into big yardage by using his shiftiness after the catch.
ATH Greg Reid
5-9/175, Valdosta (Ga.) Lowndes
Reid has been the best defensive back on either squad all week. He could play running back or wide receiver at the next level, but he has proven his worth at corner. Reid had an interception against all three quarterbacks on Friday and has a knack for finding the ball. He can make up ground to jump a route a lot faster than quarterbacks expect. He may not have great size, but he makes up for it with intelligence and quickness. He was the only defensive back able to hold Carter in check Friday.
DT Jacobbi McDaniel
6-0/275, Greenville (Fla.) Madison County
Dominant is a word often used this week to describe McDaniel. Though he has had some good one-on-one battles with Mason Walters, McDaniel has been unstoppable. He continued on Friday as the offense struggled to run the ball or throw screens when McDaniel was in the middle. Had full contact been allowed, he would have had several sacks. He was equally dominant in stopping the run and rushing the passer.
With our luck we'll get Reid and put him at WR
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 2, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
No McAllister tonight
I think this if the first day he didn’t make the hot 11.
I hear he’s been outstanding so far. One of those guys… maybe Newberg… said he should play DT at the next level but I don’t think so.
And why aren’t there any Dustin Hopkins updates? It should be easy, just tell us what he has made and what he hasn’t made.
I remember one time the guy covering practice a few days ago said Hopkins hit a 45 yarder, but nothing since then.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 2, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope
Hopkins is a good one. Having a good kicker is so important. I had so much confidence in Graham this year unlike years past.
A quick note on the game today...
Willie Downs is listed as the 2nd string player at Safety and one of the WR spots.
DJ Fluker is from Foley, AL. Foley is 20 minutes from my house parents’ house in Pensacola, FL. If I’m home and I need to go to the mall, it’s easier to go to Foley, AL than the mall in Pensacola, FL. How in the crap is DJ Fluker on the West’s team?!
Does anyone else refuse to watch Andre Debose's film?
Even the thought of seeing him in UF’s offense. . . .
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
ESPN's respone to the Reid decommit
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=Southeast_Recruiting
Also they’ve given the Gators commitments from Nixon and Bostic.
They'll own us until 2012 at least
Sickening how lazy and complacement we’ve become as a program.
Nixon is a perfect fit for our system but we’re not an elite program, so he goes to the best program in America… across the state.
Lemming praises Willie Downs and bashes FSU in the same breath.
Says we aren’t in on the top recruits anymore.
DJ Fluker is 6’7’’ and plans on being 370 when he gets to Alabama.
I want him badly.
If for no other reason than he might be the only other 4 star we get.
Bostic and Nixon have made it official to UF (well, they committed).
Fluker just got punked big time.
A guy half his size held him on the ground and wouldn’t let him get up.
It really makes me mad that he didn't follow the coaches' plan.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
You know that part up top where I mentioned UF is on the verge of taking whoever they want and leaving us the table scraps?
I’m very afraid we might be there already and I don’t know what to do to change it.
Chuck and Jody must go and we need to replace them with great coaches and solid recruiters.
Dexter has to go and we need to replace him with a solid coach and a GREAT recruiter.
For a RB coach
Priorities
1. Relations with Jimbo (ie gets along w/ staff)
2. Recruiting
3. Recruiting
4. Coaching
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Does anyone know
What Downs chances are to actually qualify?

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