Updated Eligibility Chart
by Bud Elliott on Feb 4, 2009 8:53 PM EST
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| OFFENSE |
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| Pos | Freshman | Sophomore | Junior | Senior | |
| QB |
E.J. Manuel* |
C. Ponder* | 3 | ||
| Will Secord | |||||
| RB | Lonnie Pryor | J. Thomas | T. Pressley* | 5 | |
| Chris Thompson | T. Jones | ||||
| H-Back | M. Dunham* | 1 | |||
| TE | B. Reliford | J. Little | C. Piurowski | 3 | |
| WR | Josh Gehres# | A. Commack | R. Owens* | 12 | |
| Willie Haulstead | T. Easterling* | R. Goodman* | |||
| L. Givens* | |||||
| Rodney Smith | J. Fortson | ||||
| Xavier Rhodes | B. Reed* | ||||
| C. Wade* | |||||
| OL | R. Sanderson* | D. Spurlock | B. Davis* | 14 | |
| B. Snider# | A. Datko | R. Hudson | |||
| G. Faircloth# | A. Ganguzza | R. McMahon* | |||
| John Prior | A.Greenlee | ||||
| Henry Orelus | Z. Sanders | ||||
| B. Stork | |||||
| TOTAL | 15 | 13 | 7 | 3 | 38 |
| DEFENSE | |||||
| POS | Freshman | Sophomore | Junior | Senior | |
| DE |
T. Stevens@ E. Dawkins * |
M. White | K. McNeil | 7 | |
|
B. Jenkins# |
J. Jackson* | ||||
| Dan Hicks | |||||
| DT | D. McAllister | J. Mincey | 3 | ||
| K. Stewart* | |||||
| NG | Jacobbi McDaniel | McCray | Thacker | 3 | |
| LB | N. Bradham | M. Alexander* | D. Watson | 8 | |
| N. Carr | K. Smith | R. Wright | |||
| V. Williams |
Jajuan Harley
@= Medically redshirted. *= Redshirted. #= entered in the Spring semester.
This list also gives you a good idea of some guys we should consider um, "encouraging to explore another option."
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Would Orson Charles
immediately contribute Caz is descent, but definitely nothing special.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Charles
Charles would create a new position Jimbo likes to use, the H-Back. If we bring in Charles and can continue to bring in H-Backs, we will no longer bring in Fullbacks, which is part of the reason the backs that Jimbo has brought in have been bigger than in the past.
Kyled is correct.
Caz is more of the traditional In-Line Tight End, while Orson is the HBack
by Bud Elliott on Jan 26, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
caz
isn’t he very good at blocking?
pass catching he stinks of course. But i was under the impression that he was underrated as a football player. Most don’t seem to know how much blocking means
He's a very good blocking college TE
Not on the level of Daniel Graham (Colorado, late 90’s), or Matt Spaeth (Minnesota, mid ’00’s), but very good.
Richardson
Has this been announced that he will switch to safety or is that what is believed to happen?
He's said it a few times to those in the know, and
Jimbo has said that he will not play QB for him if he plays baseball.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 26, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
qbs
that makes two of us. Two Qbs only is scary. Especially when one hasn’t even played a down at the college level :/
Yeah....
at that point you just throw Parker back there and make something happen with his feet. Just like VaTech did with Cory Holt (though he had quarterback in his background…not sure that Parker does).
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Case in point
If Georgia Tech got down to 3rd string they might have just run “Victory Formation” for every play of the 2nd half against us.
I knew
I knew he was going to play baseball and Jimbo said something along those lines but I didnt know if he was going to WR or Defense
Richardson
Yea I see that one of D’vo forty time was a 4.65 but sure seemed he was faster than that. I wouldnt be too worried about that if he can run routes well and get seperation, I mean there is a guy named Larry Fitzgerald that ran combine forty at 4.53 and Anquan Boldin ran a 4.71 in the combine.. Larry is 2 inches taller then D’vo but Anquan is listed at 6’1 but may have some more pounds on him…
So my conclusion is I dont think he would be too slow to play receiver
I'd be surprised if he played another down for FSU
He is a good athlete but at this point he probably doesn’t have the ability to learn another spot. The kid has issues. His scholarship is worth more to us given to another recruit.
Also, the 4.65 time isn’t a combine time, and I’d be interested to see what he would run at the combine.
I think he will (in the order of likelihood):
Drafted for baseball
Fails out of school
Plays football.
If Im looking at this right
We are good at OL, WR, and LB. I dont like the QB area with only 2 but what can you do. I see a lot of Fr in this recruit getting playing time. Maybe not a start but I see them playing. The secondary I think will be where we need to look at. I feel the front 7 can work and will but the secondary scares me. Youth has both good and bad things. at least P.R. will be back.
about this recruiting class
some people are saying that its a good one some a bad. if we get this person will make ore brake us. I think we could use some but as of right now its not all that bad. Im happy woith it.
He was moved to safety and I haven't heard different...
Have you? Not trying to be combative, but want to have the bets possible info.
Will Parks stay eligible?
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Bobby, take the 3.5 million.
I think
Parks will be a very good player if he keeps his grades up. He covered Julio Jones in the Under Armour game last year and did a pretty good job on him.
Did he really?
lol I just liked what I saw in him. Btw Von has been playing pretty well for the Rockets this season.
McCallister
article from a different site. Said odell has him “inside”
in nickel formations he’s on the edge :(
Disappointed that we automatically throw him inside instead of waiting for him to outgrow his end position, but the edge news is encouraging because it means that we are acknowledging the need to get our best four pass rushers on the field at the same time.
This still stinks though
I’d hate to see McCray and McDaniel on the field and McAllister sitting on the sidelines even though he is better than the 2 DE we have out there.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Jan 27, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm Chart-tarded
I apologize in advance for my ignorance, but I’m not understanding the depth chart. Is it supposed to reflect 1st team, 2nd team, etc….or merely the total players at the various positions, organized by years of eligibility?
Sorry...
I guess it’s not so much a “depth chart” in the traditional sense as it is a list of who we’ve got on scholarship, at what positions, and what year they are.
Gotcha
So it’s more of a look at what we’ve got in the cupboard. The traditional depth charts often have players crossed-listed in different positions. This gives you a better look at the inventory.
Wow... does anyone realize how little we will lose after the '10 season?
Are any of these guys even remotely likely to leave early?
We lose very little the next two years
Nobody that can’t be replaced with the exception of P-Rob. If things go our way tomorrow, then I think we can not only replace P Rob but get someone who will be better.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
2009 starters
Who do you guys think they will be?
Here is my best guess… and no, I don’t think we’ll start 12 guys on offense, but I’ll list an extra WR
QB – Ponder
RB – Thomas
FB – Sims
WR – Fortson
WR – Easterling
WR – Reed
TE – Caz
LT – Datko
LG – Hudson
C – McMahon
RG – Spurlock
RT – Sanders
DE – White
DT – Mincey
DT – Thacker
DE – McNeil
OLB – Watson
MLB – Williams
OLB – Bradham
CB – Robinson
S – Parks
S – Robinson
CB – Allen/Reid
We’ll under-use guys like Mizell, McCray and probably Reid if we get him.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by midseason
DE – McAllister
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
Parks
The last I read Parks was working at both corner and safety.
Caz is a vicious blocker but not exactly Barry Sanders in the open field after a catch. I have never seen him drop a ball though that I can remember anyway.
You know McAllister weighs 7 pounds less than McDaniels. He will probably weigh 270 by spring drills. I would say he is big enough to play DT now.
There is only two scholarship quarterbacks true but there was a walk on, Andrew Knowles and Eddinger. I don’t even know if Knowles is still there. Luke Louckes is supposed to walk on this spring also. I never knock walk ons because it is not inconceivable that both Ponder and Manuel could be injured. It would probably be a better option than trying to put Bert Reed back under center although he did play quarterback.
Loucks
Where did you hear Luke Loucks is walking on in football? I know he was a decent HS QB, but not a big time prospect or anything.
If he did play football, he would either have to be put on a football scholarship or give up his basketball scholarship.
Don’t see any way that happens.
It's scary looking at the WR
there’s only three I can really trust (Fortson, Reed, Easterling). We aren’t going to be very good next year. At least it will put more heat on Bowden.
This dysfunctional coaching hierarchy is not helping us reach our goals.
about this. . . . . . .
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
Kill a fly with an axe -- Mickey Andrews
I disagree
It’s true that we will have some unproven players, but who did we lose from this past year?
On offense, Antone, Carr and Parker and that is it. We gain Pressley, QB and OL should be much improved.
On defense we lost a great player at DE, two good LBs and a bunch of experienced yet not so great defensive backs.
Every year you can look at the depth chart and point to guys that are unproven and point to guys that left and say that they will be big losses, but every year a bunch of guys step up.
This time last year, did anyone thing Easterling, Reed, Thomas, Datko, etc. would have the year that they did? Same thing will happen this year – a bunch of guys will step up. Maybe it’s Parks, maybe Fortson, maybe White, but it’ll be a few guys.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
FWIW I think our positional performance goes like this from 08-09
QB – better
RB – slightly better
WR – about the same
OL – better
DL – slightly worse (DT will be MUCH improved)
LB – better (Bradham and Williams will both be excellent)
DB – about the same (hard to get much worse, I think Parks and Allen will play well)
Special teams – much worse (lose not only a great kicker and great punter but a great KR guy)
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Special teams will be fine
Because Jody Allen is coaching them up. I am of course 100% joking. Special teams next season are going to be real interesting to watch and probably not for good reasons.
I agree with all of those except RB
RB I bet will be awesome next year.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
I think its is only going to be time on the DL.
These guys are going to blow up I hope next year but I dont think it will be tell late in the year. I think they are going to be fast though and MA gets his @#$% together then speed might kill. I cant wait tell that speed gets some power.
DB are going to be like the o-line this year. not looking good but will do better than we all think. gut feeling.
ST- Man I think the speek kills goes here. Its not going to matter because we just have so much speed.
Having
Parker, Carr, and Surrency put a lot more fear in the opposing defenses, even if it was just from a physical standpoint. I think our WR really opened things up for us last year. But you are right in that guys will step up… just don’t know who yet.
This dysfunctional coaching hierarchy is not helping us reach our goals.
Optimistic view
We lose to GT and UF and are 10-2 going into the ACC Champ.
I think we can beat GT
Their defense was a big part of their success last year and they lost a lot from that front 4.
I would hope that Mickey gives us a better game plan this year, and our players are more used to it.
GT going to the flexbone would have 1 of 2 scenarios: They struggle at first but when they finally get the right players they turn into a pretty good team
OR
They have enough guys who fit to do it well and nobody has seen this offense and can’t stop it. But on the 2nd and 3rd meetings the players are more used to it and GT’s success will go down.
I think we have option 2 happening. GT will be good next year, but their defense loses a lot, DC will have better plans and defensive players will be better prepared.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Feb 2, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
picking wins and losses is silly
instead, assign a % chance that we’ll win each game. It’s an eye-opening exercise and one that will make you change your position.
fine
69% we beat GT because they lose there Def. But the 29% win because they got a fast Option QB to run there Off. They are going to be just as hot next year. If MA learns something this year it better be to watch LSU vs GT – bowl game
95% UF over FSU.
5% if BB finds some kryptonite for Tebow and/or Ponder steals his powers.
And I question the trustability of Fortson and Reed may not be able to stay on the team.
I think Easterling is the most trustworthy out of those threee mentioned.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
What's wrong with Fortson?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Feb 2, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing, he has a lot of potential, but I wouldn't say I trust Fortson as a playmaker yet.
For my taste he hasn’t been able to show himself as consistent and reliable.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
Oh I see
I misread your comment in that I thought you meant Fortson and Reed might both not be able to stay on the team. Now I see you just meant that for Reed.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Feb 3, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I have gotten so bad at that (making a statement that could also be taken othe ways)...
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
Its hard to learn sometimes but
If they see what happens to PP then they will see what they need to do.
Especially since Parker was more than a second teamer.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
ESPN
It was during a FSU basketball game I believe one of the announcers said Loucks was going to walk on in spring practice. I have no idea if that is still the case but it was mentioned.
Will Imeokparia or Moody ever play at FSU?
Seems like they will be way down on the depth chart.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Also, what's the deal with Powell?
Will he punt?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
X. Rhodes
Did he ever play CB in high school or is this a project? I’ve only heard WR and S.
I think CB is a mistake, but my guess is that he is going to play defensive back.
And we have more than enough safety prospects.
I can move him back to WR if there is enough consensus on it.
Amazing how little we lose to Graduation after next year
2010 is shaping up very nicely.
PRob, Watson, and Mincey are really our only very significant losses.
2011 too
Our juniors going into next year are good, but not great.
Actually, it’s a pretty weak class now that I think of it.
Ponder
Pressley
Davis
Hudson
McMahon
Bellamy
White
Alexander
Smith
Jenije
Richardson
Just hope Bradham doesn’t go pro.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Feb 4, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of nigel
What do people expect out of him next season?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Feb 4, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think he should be our best guy in the front 7
But I’m worried that Amato isn’t going to work very hard on improving his game.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Feb 4, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
what did AJ Alexander medically redshirt for?
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
Do you know of any resources off the top of your head that I could pull from
to compare injuries between us and other teams? Just a thought… in fact, I think you did this once?
I wonder if the “more intensity” mantra might lead to straining, over exertion, etc. It would be interesting to get a hold of what warm up and agility exercises they do (besides yoga that I know of, but what specifically they do) and compare that to other teams.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
I did it but we'll likely have to wait for Phil Steele in July
We can do FSU by going through Seminoles.com
As far as a nationwide… no way
blast. Thanks anyway, I'll be thinking.
BTW this site is continually improving. I applaud your ability to get people engaged and contributing.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
I would argue that health is a skill. You can’t teach skill. Yes, holding people out of contact will likely reduce injuries but at what cost? I would say that a tough off season program would be good to teach players to fight through pain but I don’t think you can change your program just to keep players healthy. You need to recruit players that you think will stay healthy.
you can teach health.
for instince, most of these guys are on diets right. in that there should be a large amounts of potassium like sweet potato, strawbarrys, and bananas. Potassium helps muscles heal faster when they tear. that make you stronger. Also you want V-D. as we all know for strong bones. you add small things like this w/ thing like IBU, Ice and stretches and you have healthy guys. I think FSU STR and Con coach did a gret job. When we needed players on the field they were there. we had a good injury free year and I think we will have a few more because of him.
Yeah, you shouldn't change your program to keep people healthy if its to the detriment of other success factors
But if, by a comparison, we have a lot more injuries than other successful teams I’d like to know what the difference is. It could be true that we just are taking chances on injury prone athletes, but I’d like to know what evidence there is that that is even possible to know during the recruiting process (barring the ones already hurt during H.S.,)
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
With two solid (one better than the other)
freshman running backs, and two good sophomores, what does Pressely contribute?
Do you redshirt Pryor or Thompson?
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Pressley is a great cut candidate
JUCO guy very unlikely to graduate or stay eligible. He also will likely never be the same after ACL surgery (most guys aren’t)
I red shirt Lonnie and Chris if I can while using Pressley as a backup this year before cutting him.
Is Pressley THAT good or does he just stand out from all the inferior athletes on his reel?
Surrency didn’t impress me.
once he got to D1
he seemed to either showboat, or just didn’t have fundamentals…He would jump for balls that were thrown at his gut. There is an example of this on a 3rd down in this past season’s UF game. Even if he catches the ball, he doesn’t convert because he’s in the air.
Off topic but...
was checking out the blogs at espn and found this intresting about urban crier….
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/ncfnation/0-5-434/Kiffin—Meyer-cheated-and-still-lost-top-prospect.html
So what would be the punishment
“Now you know you cant be doing that. You should know better shame on you.”
SEC said it wasnt a violation at all, and dropped a bit of a hammer on him.
I liked that they did that. I hate UF, but win something, anything before you open your mouth to that degree.
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