ACC Preview Part 3: The Final Installment
In my last two installments, I've discussed, in detail, the top 8 teams in the ACC. As conference play is starting to rev up, I'll complete the analysis of the final four teams: Virginia, Georgia Tech, NC State and Virginia. Thank you all for your thoughts on my previous posts and for making some interesting discussion. As we have seen, the ACC is wide open this year, with 4 excellent teams at the top and then a bunch of teams that could surprise or dissapoint any committed fan.
This is the final installment of the ACC preview for 2009. The amazing thing about the ACC this year, is that not a single team is ranked outside of the Pomeroy top 100. The Big East has 5 teams outside of the top 100, but has 4 in the top 10. There is a lot of disparity in the Big East this year, either you're great or you're at the bottom. It lacks the depth that the ACC has this year. The Big Ten, which many are arguing is the top conference in college basketball, only has one team outside of the top 100: Indiana at 226. Every other team in the Big Ten is in the top 65. I'm not drinking the Big Ten kool-aid yet, and I live in the heart of Big Ten country.
So let's finish up the Preview by taking a look at Virginia, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech and NC State.
12. Virginia Cavaliers
Last year, the Cavaliers went 17-16 overall, finishing 5-11 in the ACC and losing to Bradley in the CBI semifinal. The Cavs are off to a slow start again this year, going 6-5 in OOC play. They have, however, won their ACC opener against GTech in an overtime game in Atlanta. The barely lost to Syracuse in what turned out to be a great game and lost another close game to Auburn. They have lost their five games by an average of 6 points. The average rank of their OOC was 149 and they have only played 3 away games this year. Pomeroy is predicting that the Cavaliers will go 5-11 in conference play.
Offense Defense
Raw Efficiency : 103.7 (118) 96.2 (102)
Adj Efficiency : 104.0 (111) 95.4 ( 78)
Effective FG% : 47.4 (223) 47.2 (104)
Turnover Pct. : 18.3 ( 42) 18.6 (281)
Off. Rebound% : 35.9 ( 89) 30.4 ( 83)
Free Throw Rate: 26.1 (127) 31.9 ( 83)
3-Point FG% : 30.7 (272) 31.7 ( 77)
2-Point FG% : 47.9 (170) 47.0 (140)
Free Throw Pct.: 73.8 ( 36) 63.1 ( 19)
Block Pct. : 11.4 (283) 10.4 (100)
Steal Pct. : 8.6 ( 73) 8.8 (246)
3PA/FGA : 28.9 (264) 33.6 (202)
A/FGM : 50.0 (260) 51.0 ( 89)
As you can see, we're starting to see more red and lighter shades of green as we've started to discuss the teams toward the bottom of the conference. One of the major positive points about the Cav's offense is that they don't turn the ball over very often, only turning it over on 18% of their total possessions. Last year, in the major conferences, the turnover percentage dropped below 20% for the first time in years. So, 18% is pretty good. They also do a relatively good job on the offensive boards and this likely results from the size, ranked 52nd in the country, and slower paced deliberate offense. Mike Scott 6'8 So is one of the top offensive rebounders in the country. Sylven Landesberg 6'6 Fr is their best offensive player who limits his turnovers. Landesberg really understands basketball and will likely develop into an excellent player in the next couple of years. Keep an eye on him in years to come. Virginia win a few surprise games here and there but they are laking the offense and consistent defense to do much damage this year. They are currently averaging 1.09 points per possession and allowing 1.01, demonstrating that they have played many close games this year.
11. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Last year, the Yellow Jackets finished 15-17 overall, going 7-9 in the ACC and not making it to post-season play, one year after making it to the NCAA tournament as a 10 seed. Paul Hewitt's knew that his team was going to take a hit on offense this year and it has shown early and often, but his defense is playing extremely well. Only having 63% of possible rerturning minutes back on the floor this year. Their big win in th OOC schedule came against Vanderbilt, who they beat easily at home 63-51. Currently, GTech is predicted to go 3-13 in ACC play. Unfortunately, their offense may be the rate limiting step for their success this season.
Offense Defense
Raw Efficiency : 100.5 (175) 89.7 ( 32)
Adj Efficiency : 100.8 (168) 94.2 ( 65)
Effective FG% : 48.5 (179) 45.3 ( 63)
Turnover Pct. : 20.8 (174) 22.3 (111)
Off. Rebound% : 38.2 ( 44) 29.8 ( 64)
Free Throw Rate: 24.4 (168) 36.1 (168)
3-Point FG% : 28.7 (309) 31.6 ( 76)
2-Point FG% : 49.9 ( 95) 44.2 ( 66)
Free Throw Pct.: 58.9 (335) 62.1 ( 13)
Block Pct. : 6.0 ( 28) 11.1 ( 71)
Steal Pct. : 10.6 (218) 11.1 (101)
3PA/FGA : 20.9 (339) 33.0 (172)
A/FGM : 55.1 (152) 54.8 (174)
Lots of red. Shooting 59% from the free throw line as a team is painful. But look on the flipside, their defense typically plays relatively well, particularly when challenging shots, holding opponents to 44% from the floor. GTech only has two startes with an offensive rating over 100...in the ACC that isn't good enough to get the job done. They don't even have a player in the top 500. Where they are getting the job done is on the boards, particularly Gani Lawal 6'8 So and Alade Aminu 6'10 Sr. Lawal and Aminu are also doing an excellent job defending in the paint, blocking a high percentage of shots...not as much as our own Alabi. The Yellow Jackets are averaging 1 point per possision and holding teams to 0.9 points per possession. Part of this may result from their height. Similar to us, GTech is a big team and big teams do well on defense, not offense. If they can figure out to shoot the ball better and get some points from the charity stripe, GTech will win a few games in the ACC. Watch out for this team in a year or two. There will be some great games between us and them in the near future.
10. Virginia Tech Hokies
Like its football team, VTech basketball is all about defense. Last year, they held teams to a conference low 0.97 points per possession to go 9-7 in ACC play and make it to the NIT quarter finals. This year, their defense has dropped to 95th in the country and 10th in the conference. But...they are still holding opponents to 0.95 points per possession and scoring 1.02 per possession. So far, VTech is 9-5 this season, losing to Xavier, Seton Hall, Wisco, Georgia and then being hosed by Duke by 25. They don't have any quality wins so far this season, the exception being an 81-67 win at St. John's. Their opponents average Pomeroy rating is 176. To the Hokies credit, they are 8 points from being 13-1. They have lost 4 games by 8 points total.
Offense Defense
Raw Efficiency : 103.6 (120) 96.4 (107)
Adj Efficiency : 105.2 ( 95) 96.4 ( 95)
Effective FG% : 48.8 (163) 45.2 ( 58)
Turnover Pct. : 21.1 (198) 19.5 (240)
Off. Rebound% : 36.2 ( 81) 30.7 ( 89)
Free Throw Rate: 30.2 ( 48) 31.6 ( 82)
3-Point FG% : 34.0 (171) 32.2 ( 96)
2-Point FG% : 47.7 (180) 43.5 ( 53)
Free Throw Pct.: 73.7 ( 39) 68.0 (146)
Block Pct. : 7.2 ( 82) 14.6 ( 17)
Steal Pct. : 9.8 (164) 9.8 (172)
3PA/FGA : 32.5 (179) 35.0 (244)
A/FGM : 62.0 ( 36) 58.8 (270)
VTech is a well balanced team who plays hard for 40 minutes on both ends of the floor. They are an experienced team, with only 1 Freshman. They have 83% of returning minutes back on the floor this year. Their only loss was Deron Washington who was able to soar above the rim and Greg Paulus. This year, A.D Vassallo 6'6 Sr has decided to take control of this team. He is leading the team in minutes, possessions, shots, eFG% and assists. This is what you expect from Senior leadership...see Toney Douglas. If Vassallo could decrease his turnover rate, he would be a more effective offensive player. This is a team that relies on tough defense and forcing you to throw up difficult shots. They don't generate a lot of steals and we have discussed this previously. Can the Hokies defense continue to play tough in conference play? Absolutely. Can they generate enough offense to make it to the NCAA tournament...its not clear. If Malcolm Delaney 6'3 So can continue to develop his offensive game, the Hokies might end up higher than 10th in the conference. They may suprise us and end up in the middle tier with a shot at the big dance.
9. North Carolina State Wolfpack
All Chuck Amato jokes aside, this is a pretty good basketball team. Last year...they were not a great team, finishing 15-16 overall and 4-12 in the ACC, losing to Miami in the first round of the ACC tournament. This year, they are 9-3, losing their 3 games by a combined total of 10 points. Those loses were to three top ranked teams: Davidson, Marquette and that team from the swamp who will remain nameless. They have had a relatively weak OOC schedule, with their opponents having an average ranking of 210. Despite the relatively easy schedule, NC St has taken care of busineess, winning by an average of 16.7 points.
Offense Defense
Raw Efficiency : 113.1 ( 23) 94.4 ( 70)
Adj Efficiency : 108.8 ( 59) 98.2 (126)
Effective FG% : 53.5 ( 36) 42.5 ( 16)
Turnover Pct. : 20.0 (123) 16.3 (337)
Off. Rebound% : 38.2 ( 43) 31.6 (111)
Free Throw Rate: 30.8 ( 40) 25.1 ( 14)
3-Point FG% : 37.0 ( 72) 28.3 ( 12)
2-Point FG% : 52.7 ( 34) 42.6 ( 38)
Free Throw Pct.: 72.0 ( 74) 69.3 (197)
Block Pct. : 6.8 ( 58) 9.8 (117)
Steal Pct. : 11.5 (286) 7.7 (303)
3PA/FGA : 30.3 (236) 31.2 (108)
A/FGM : 60.2 ( 60) 38.6 ( 2)
This is another example of a team who is deliberate on offense, who takes care of the ball and plays outstanding defense. They don't generate steals but they defend the shot like nobody else, particularly on the perimeter, holding opponents to 28% from deep. They are holding teams to 0.94 points per possession while scoring 1.12 points per possession. I am interested to see how this will hold up in ACC play. The thing that will help the Wolfpack the most this season is their ability to shoot the ball. If they can remain patient, as they have, they will make some noise in the conference. All of their starters are in the top 400 in offensive rating, with Trevor Ferguson 6'5 Jr leading the pack with a 123.3 rating (96th in the country). However, most of Ferguson's points are from three point land. He only has 11 field goal attempts this year. But he is shooting .415 from three. Ben McCauley 6'9 Sr and Brandon Costner 6'9 Jr are the team leaders this year, contributing to 52.4% of possible possessions. If these two can continue to play at a high level, the Wolfpack will be more difficult than many predicted. Pomeroy is predicting they go 5-11 in the conference, with wins of us, Gtech,Virginia, Maryland and Boston College. Not sure if that will happen. NC State has a difficult ACC schedule this year. You may be wondering how any one team could have a more difficult conference schedule than another...check out this article from our friends at Carolina March (An SBNation blog) to see what I mean. (And by the way, kudos to the loyal Tomahawk Nation Visitors for their continued contribution to our basketball game threads...they had 0 comments during the last one posted on their site.) NC State might be another sleeper in the conference this year.
Here's the final list:
1. Duke
2. UNC
3. Clemson
4. Wake
5. Maryland
6. Miami
7. FSU
8 Boston College
9. NC State
10. Virginia Tech
11. Georgia Tech
12. Virginia
This is a huge weekend opening weekend of ACC play. We take on Duke tomorrow and the game will be televised on ESPN.
Thanks to FSUncensored for pointing out this article. Looks like we're getting noticed and might have a chance to make it to the NCAA tournament this year. Thanks for making it through all of the previews. I hope they help you understand what we can expect in conference play this year.
Go NOLES!
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Cubbie,
Who do we match up better against? Duke or UNC?
by UNFNOLE on Jan 9, 2009 6:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tough question.
To answer this, let’s take a couple of steps back and see what we do well and what we do poorly:
Good
Offense: We get to the line often and we don’t get intimidated by a team’s size. We are getting effective play from our young players. We have a 7 foot center and Singleton may be one of the most exciting freshman in the country.
Defense: We slow teams down, we force turnovers, we defend shots extremely well and we defend the paint well. We are big at all positions.
Bad
Offense: We turn the ball over 24% of the time on offense. We are not shooting well from the line and we are not shooting well from the floor. We play a slow tempo game and are not very efficient on offense.
Defense: We don’t rebound well despite our size.
Duke already plays a down temp game and they shoot the ball extremely well from the floor. Their 3 point shooting is down. They are susceptible to turnovers but their defense is outstanding, probably one of the best if not the best defense in the country. They are also a relatively big team. The two big holes in this team are their turnover percentage and their 3 point shooting.
UNC is runs you out of the gym and takes advantage of your mistakes. However, compared to Duke, they don’t shoot as well overall, they turn the ball over and their defense isn’t as stifling. They have amazing talent and have some of the best players in the country with Ty Lawson and Hansbrough. They are also getting some excellent minutes out of their big freshman Ed Davis. UNC probably has a better post game than Duke, but Alabi is not a threat, yet, on the offensive end.
I honestly think we will do better against UNC. Huh? Duke is patient on offense. They will run their sets until you get tired and make a mistake. Our young team is susceptible to making such mistakes. Florida is a team that likes to run; we slowed them right down. All of the teams who we have played this year that play run-gun offenses have played their lowest paced games of the year against us. Douglas will have his hands full with Lawson. And Reid and co will have to play great games against Hansbrough. My sense, from what I have seen, is that UNC really relies on its athleticism to win games. Duke has a system at both ends that wears you down. I don’t see us making it 40 minutes against them. I really really hope I’m wrong and I think that we will play UNC and Duke better than any other team through conference play, including UNC’s loss to BC. So…I’ll go out on a limb and say that we match up better with UNC. I look forward to the ruckus that will ensue.
by TrueCubbie on Jan 9, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent analysis
If we get teams to play ugly, watch out. Teams that already play ugly… (and by ugly I mean the antithesis of the showtime lakers), better watch out for us.
by FSUncensored on Jan 9, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good breakdown
Reading you and Uncensored gives me my information on FSU basketball. Wish I followed it more.
It seems like every game (against legit opponents) hinders on how much we turn it over. With a young team who hasn’t been good at this, that concerns me.
by UNFNOLE on Jan 9, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Chuck Amato buy some. . . . . .nevermind
TC said no Clown jokes
Great previews, TC. Keep up the good work.
Our goal is simple: Best in the land
by FSUSOM on Jan 9, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cheers.
Glad you enjoy the articles. Feel free to suggest topics for articles.
by TrueCubbie on Jan 9, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reads
UVA’s poor shooting combined with their poor assists rate leads me to believe they stagnate on offense. Probably a lot of standing around.
We should handle GT in a close, defensive battle. Not that we’re great, but I don’t like that team all that much.
I specifically like that VTech depends on foul shooting for offense. We don’t often foul.
I think we sill struggle against NC State, much like we did against Northwestern. I really like NC State’s coach. They don’t force turnovers, however.
by FSUncensored on Jan 9, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We typically do better against teams that don't generate turnovers.
Look at our last win. We had a terrible shooting streak and made some sloppy mistakes, particularly in the beginning of the second half. Once we held on to the ball, we ran away with the game. This is going to be a very tight ACC season.
Here is Dana O’Neil’s preview from EPSN.com: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=oneil_dana&id=3807593
by TrueCubbie on Jan 9, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At the risk of sounding sexist...
that’s probably the best piece of basketball sportswriting I’ve ever seen from a woman. She’s pretty good.
by FSUncensored on Jan 9, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know fans are often critical
But just to put it out there, I have alot of friends that follow NC State, and they universally do not like Sidney Lowe.
by Zach_Nole on Jan 9, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Season Prediction
We’re at 13-2 right now. We need a minimum of 7-9 in the conference and a conference win to get in.
Jan. 10, 2009 Duke (ESPN) 2:00 pm ET (likely bad loss. I hate this Matchup. 13-3, 0-1)
Jan. 13, 2009 at NC State (ESPNU) 7:00 pm ET (another convincing loss. Another bad matchup. 13-4, 0-2)
Jan. 17, 2009 Maryland (Ray/Com) 12:00 pm ET (Ugly, low scoring, bounceback win. 14-4, 1-2)
Jan. 21, 2009 at Miami-FL 7:30 pm ET (Loss. 14-5, 1-3)
Jan. 24, 2009 at Virginia (Sunshine) 4:00 pm ET (WIN. Noles score 70+. 15-5, 2-3)
Jan. 28, 2009 N. Carolina (Ray/Com) 9:00 pm ET (Loss. 15-6, 2-4)
Feb. 5, 2009 Georgia Tech (ESPNU) 7:00 pm ET (Big win. 16-6, 3-4)
Feb. 7, 2009 at Clemson 7:00 pm ET (Loss. They force tons of turnovers. People will be all over Ham after we get block out by UNC and Clemson in the same week. Keep the faith. 16-7, 3-5)
Feb. 10, 2009 Virginia 7:00 pm ET (Win! 17-7, 4-5)
Feb. 14, 2009 at Wake Forest (Ray/Com) 4:00 pm ET (Loss. Wake is a very solid team. 17-8, 4-6)
Feb. 18, 2009 Miami-FL (ESPNU) 7:00 pm ET (WIN. Miami might fade down the stretch and this is a big home game at night. 18-8, 5-6)
Feb. 21, 2009 at Virginia Tech (Sunshine) 8:00 pm ET (Win. Hopefully VT’s lack of depth catches up with them. 19-8, 6-6)
Feb. 24, 2009 at Boston College (ESPNU) 9:00 pm ET (Loss. Back to back road games are tough. 19-9, 6-7)
Feb. 28, 2009 Clemson (Ray/Com) 2:00 pm ET (Frustrating Loss. 19-10, 6-8)
Mar. 3, 2009 at Duke (Ray/Com) 8:00 pm ET (this makes back to back to back losses as the Noles drop to 19-11 and 6-9 in the conference)
Mar. 8, 2009 Virginia Tech (Ray/Com) 2:00 pm ET (Win. The Noles use their five days of rest to beat a VTech team that probably won’t be playing for anything. 20-11 and 7-9 in the ACC)
The ACC won’t get the respect it deserves, so we’ll need to win a tourney game to get in (as TC said)
Our standing will be important. At 7-9, we’ll be anywhere from the 6th seed to the 9th seed. If we get the 7th we gave a shot. The 9th would put us in a tougher spot, but it is doable.
Projected confidence that we make the tournament: 25%
by FSUncensored on Jan 9, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nicely done.
I think the Wake-Miami-VTech-BC-Clemson-Duke-VTech will determine what happens to us. If we can go 4-3 and I would be absolutely thrilled and we would make it to the tournament. However, I think 3-4 or even 2-5 is very likely.
by TrueCubbie on Jan 9, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TC, your analysis is spot on,
But I just have a feeling we beat Duke tomorrow.
They haven’t seen length like we have, and they wilted in their last big road game (Michigan)
by Zach_Nole on Jan 9, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Swing games and standard deviation
As someone who deals a lot with odds and probabilities, I often find that grouping things can help to simplify a process. To make things easier, let’s use Kenpom’s projections. We will deal with very likely wins, very likely losses, and the middle ground games.
I ran a standard deviation based off of Kenpom’s projected winning % for each game. Mean = .33, st. dev = .24, top sector (is that the name for it) = .57, bottom sector = .09
Thu Feb 5 Florida St. vs. (99) Georgia Tech (sr) Home W, 70-6474 (74)
Tue Feb 10 Florida St. vs. (88) Virginia (sr) Home W, 68-6371 (70)
Sun Mar 8 Florida St. vs. (89) Virginia Tech (sr) Home W, 65-6067 (70%)
FSU must win all of these games if it has any chance at the tournament. It would be very difficult to go 7-9 or better while losing any of those in this category
Sat Jan 17 Florida St. vs. (51) Maryland (sr) Home W, 64-6372 (53)
Sat Jan 24 Florida St. vs. (88) Virginia (sr) Away L, 67-6471 (39)
Sat Feb 21 Florida St. vs. (89) Virginia Tech (sr) Away L, 63-6167 (39)
Wed Feb 18 Florida St. vs. (31) Miami FL (sr) Home L, 66-6369 (37)
Tue Jan 13 Florida St. vs. (79) North Carolina St. (sr) Away L, 64-6165 (35)
Tue Feb 24 Florida St. vs. (66) Boston College (sr) Away L, 71-6671 (29)
Sat Feb 28 Florida St. vs. (15) Clemson (sr) Home L, 71-6572 (27)
Wed Jan 21 Florida St. vs. (31) Miami FL (sr) Away L, 70-6069 (14)
Wed Jan 28 Florida St. vs. (4) North Carolina (sr) Home L, 80-6877 (14%)
Interesting middle category here. I almost want to split this up into some subcategories, but I’m not sure how to do it. Maryland, @ Miami, and UNC (at home) are the clear outliers. If we win our 3 games in category one, we must win four of these 9 games. That’s going to be very difficult. The Maryland game is basically a must.
Sat Jan 10 Florida St. vs. (1) Duke (sr) Home L, 72-5972 (9)
Sat Feb 7 Florida St. vs. (15) Clemson (sr) Away L, 76-6272 (9)
Sat Feb 14 Florida St. vs. (9) Wake Forest (sr) Away L, 76-6177 (7)
Tue Mar 3 Florida St. vs. (1) Duke (sr) Away L, 76-5672 (3)
We’re very unlikely to win any of these games.
After doing this, I think I want to amend my projection to 6-10.
by FSUncensored on Jan 9, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs



























