The Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets beat the Florida State Seminoles 49-44
by SWFLNole. on Oct 11, 2009 1:02 AM EDT
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In the first half, it was one of the craziest outbursts of offense that any college football fan has ever seen. Neither team punted and it was 35-28 at the half. Florida State received the ball to open the game, and quickly marched straight down the field to score a touchdown, much like last year's game in Atlanta. Also much like that game, Georgia Tech responded quickly with a score of its own.
At that point in the game, the weather was a factor, and the game was put on hold due to the lightining in the area. Fans of both teams wondered how long it would be, and how it would affect the players on each team. Once the players returned we quickly learned that the offenses of each team were not effected.
Florida State and Georgia Tech both scored with ease on each possession. Literally every time the offense of either team had the ball it punched it in the endzone. FSU outgained GT 403 to 243 in the first half primarily through the air with Christian Ponder passing for 4 TDs in the first half alone. 267 of that 403 was through the air. GT only had 47 passing yards, however their triple option offense gashed FSU quickly and effectively for 196 yards on only 18 attempts. A comical 10.9 yds per attempt, compared to our video game like 12.7 yds per throw. It was literally an offensive showdown.
The first stop happened right after the first half when Georgia Tech QB Josh Nesbitt fumbled the ball to FSU. However the third down conversion fell between two open FSU players and freshman kicker Hopkins missed the ensuing field goal. Georgia Tech then scored on the next play when their WR Thomas went up over DB Ochuko Jenije and caught the ball for the distance. After a great run by Chris Thompson FSU decided not to go on 4th and 5, and kicked to make the game 38-35. In my opinion a bad decision. Florida State had the opportunity to go for it in positions they should have on fourth down, given their defense, a few times but did not and ended the 3rd quarter down 42-38. Georgia Tech did not stop moving the ball at all, the pace was just slowed. Don't let anything make you think our defense played good in the second half. Paul Johnson's well coached offense outplayed our poorly coached defense only nearly every snap of the game.
Again, our only stops came from the fumble variety as Nesbitt made a bad pitch and the Seminoles recovered. However, our best player and QB, Christian Ponder then fumbled the ball back to Georgia Tech. On the next drive the announcer said " you sense the defense is wearing down" however they were not paying attention because FSU did not stop GT from start to finish. On this drive Nigel Carr recovered a fumble and QB Nesbitt stole the ball straight out of his hands to give GT yet another first down. The next play led to another GT touchdown because Kendall Smith missed yet another tackle. GT led at this point 49-38.
Louis Givens made a great return to give us good field position, and our leader, and best player Christian Ponder stood in to throw yet another TD, this time to Ruby Rod Owens, to make it 49-44, however the 2 point conversion was no good with 4:14. FSU decided to do an almost comically bad attempt at an onside kick at that point. GT was easily able to run the clock out, because they could run the ball on us on every snap of the football.
Our defense failed us in this game, which is not surprising given everything that we know. Mickey Andrews is well past his prime, and can't game plan for the triple option, Jody Allen and Chuck Amato are terrible position coaches on the defense, and recruiting lapses have left us thin and starting true freshman. Obviously this has been well covered on TomahawkNation, but Bobby Bowden is the root of all these coaching failures, and once Jimbo Fisher (whose offense looked dominant) is able to hire a full staff we can expect our defense to turn around at least some.
The total yards were very similar, because our offense played well. However their rushing offense threw up a playstation like 401 yards, with a 7.0 yards per carry average. We ran well for 180 yards, and threw for a great 359 yards and 5 TDs. They only had to throw 8 times to beat us. Georgia Tech's offense dominated our defense, and we dominated their defense. However, we didn't go for some short fourth downs, and we couldn't keep them from 6 yards at any time. The reason is that the DT position is the most important position in defending the triple option, and we simply don't have star-ready DTs. Our young guys are good and inexperienced against that size, and our older guys are hurt or not as talented.
This game shouldn't surprise anyone because there were plenty of signs that we could not defend Paul Johnson's offense, and our offense is run by a smart young man who is playing better than most anyone. It was a shootout, and both teams had a shot. GT took advantage of their possessions better than we did. That is how it goes sometimes.
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This is what Im still trying to figure out...
but hey, even if they arent here it cant get much worse.. right?
Quote of the year from the post game press conference...
“Well, the critics will criticize, and the good people won’t…” Bobby Bowden
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
Good work.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
I am loving this... he gets more and more rope every game
and every loss and retarded ass selfish comment just shows to the public just how far he is away from his mind !
SWFLnole,
could we really have even developed a scheme to stop this tonight? For the reasons you described, which I agree with, I don’t know that it isn’t just a personnel issue more than anything. MA certainly is past his prime but when I watched Miami stop GT several weeks ago, it was all about the DT’s stuffing the middle w/size and letting LB’s and DB’s clean up with easy tackling. And, I don’t find Randy Shannon to be a defensive genius schematically.
We obviously have more of this to come the rest of the season (yikes). It will be such an exciting time to see who the next DC will be after the season. Our offense truly looks extremely efficient and our play makers are just becoming better and better.
problem
The problem with this is MA and Chuck have been avoiding recruiting the kind of players we need because they were too big or not quite fast enough. Don’t expect the D to get better at all this year.
by osceolafan850 on Oct 11, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
What gets me is Amato
Didn’t seem to have a problem recruting DL with size when he was at NCSt. some of those dudes were pretty freaking big.
The D will be better than this game most of the rest of the year
The triple option was born to ruin this type of defense.
We didn't do anything
We could have lined Jacobbi in the zero technique and rolled back side stunts to confuse the pitch/keep phase. We did not even look into that at all.
We could have rolled players into the dive phase, while putting our secondary players in worse position, but at least make them do what they dont know perfectly.
Regardless we didn’t have the scheme, and we don’t have the players to stop what they want to do, and many of us have said that for a while
www.fsufishing.com
At this point do you think the players even trust
any of the schemes were running or any of the defensive coaches? I think were about to see a lot of feelancing.
there just can't be anything more emasculating at this level
than walking off the field after 4 quarters knowing you didn’t stop them once. Not a field goal, not a punt…all touchdowns when they didn’t self inflict w/errant pitches resulting in fumbles.
watching the demeanor of our kids on defense is just plain depressing.
Funny thing was that we got the turnovers that we were hoping for and we didnt capitalize
I think we knew going in that we weren’t going to stop them and it was up to the offense to capitalize when they made any mistakes. 3 points off turnovers? am i remembering right?
Good grief...
44 points at home. I guess that’s not nearly enough…
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I'm not blaming the offense
I’m with most people on this board. 44 points should always be more than enough. I’m just saying i think we planned on them spanking our defense and in order to win we had to hope for them to turn the ball over. They did and we just came up short. Ponder played like a Heisman contender. We had a couple tough breaks with drops and missed routes that stopped us from capitalizing.
Half Time Adjustments
Gave their defense just enough of an edge. They stopped us twice and their offense took the lead. Our offense is much better than GT considering that we had to play a MUCH better level of defense last night. I felt like I was watching two different teams last night. I got excited when the offense came on the field, and went for a sandwich or beer when the defense came on the field.
I would suggest that our defensive staff should look into making half time adjustments but since they don’t have any idea what they’re doing in the first place, I don’t think it would matter. All you would get is a different variety of stupid.
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One thing even his great PR firm can’t help him with, is how inept he will look when the losses keep piling. Making kids hold hands for a nice photo op only works when you coach them up enough to win.
exactly osceolafan if we would have won this game tonight
They would have been sucking him off Tebow style all week and giving him nice fluff pieces in the papers leading up to our next game.
"Jimbo Fisher is the reason we lost this game"
Direct quote from a “fan” behind me..i felt as though it was my inherent right and duty to punch him directly in the nose
"He who becomes a beast rids the pain of being man"
i punched him with my words
told him terrible things..things that richard pryor wouldn’t speak
"He who becomes a beast rids the pain of being man"
Anyone who would say Jimbo is the reason we lost is a complete idiot.
Mickey and the whole defensive staff are to blame for this one. We have got to be one of the 10 worst defenses in d1 football
We have a lot of very stupid fans.
Bowden gets applauded/chanted off the field at halftime. Really? You’re going to chant his name after maybe the worst defensive half in his tenure? Hell maybe in FSU history?
I wanted to slap every single one of them.
Some retard near me had a shirt that read “If you’re wearing black, GTFO.” Joke was on him as he used cheap ink to make the shirt and it ran all over him when it rained.
I think I walked by that guy!
I yelled “Bobby’s trash you dumb ****.”
by pillsburysoldier on Oct 11, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Changed my prediction for how this ends
I used to think Bobby would fight tooth and nail to keep the job because he knows the team has a shot at the ACC next year. Now I think he will actually step down at the end of the year because he will see a complete lack of support after the season we have. He will shake everyone down for the $ before he goes, but even Bobby Bowden will know what the deal is after a 3 or 4 win season.
Bobby Bowden has been showing up at the Finance Office with
a mask, a gun and a bag for years.
He wont stop now…. he is dug in.
Now I kinda wish we hadn't banned him to see what he could possibly be coming up with at this point. It could have been amusing.
I think we all could use a good laugh right about now.
Maybe all of us mod’s should send him a joint private email and tell him he has been unbanned. Naw, it’s not worth it even for a good laugh.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
Honestly
I could stand on the sidelines and watch Georgia Tech score everytime they had the ball except for a fumble. If I stood there they might fumble once. I might come close to this performance tonight. Maybe?
That is another sad thing about this it is even dividing the fan base. Bobby has been there so long some of them can’t separate him from FSU and what it is doing for the program.
When he said tonight he was a problem solver who hired the best and left them alone it was too much. Jeff was not the best. I am getting used to losing but the lying bothers me.
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Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
How does he solve the problem of Defense?
I know its not as important as the bigger issues of the day, such as signing footballs and doing Golden Flake potato chip commercials, but I figure somewhere in your 18 hour day, you fit it in.
The dishonesty discussed me the most also
He’s been showing a real lack of integrity the last 2 or so years with some of his actions and comments.
by nappygoat on Oct 11, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is a huge disconnect between involved, informed, and realistic fans and the average fan that was showcased on ESPN’s coverage tonight. Also, to not follow up some of Bobby’s assertions without contradictory facts is absolutely ridiculous
Exactly
It’s like these sports announcers refuse to even have an honest debate about the man’s qualifications to coach this team at this point in his life. They do relailze that he dosen’t coach for free don’t they? They do relaize FSU expects to be a little better than a Wake Forrest or Duke on a regular basis don’t they?
Bowden said coaches worked like mad to stop the triple option this week
Find that hard to believe. If the coaches tried they would have learned that maybe putting 8 in the box would help.
the initial scheme wasn't bad..
the concept was good…more like what we should’ve done last year. problem was we only had one “concept” so GaTech immediatley starting cracking safteis and we NEVER EVER walked a corner up or blized a saftey before the block could be set….sad.
Yeah, right!
Jimbo during the game had a look on his face like “Damn this offense is back out on the field we must get ready and score again because we cant stop them for nothing” and when we gave the the ball back with 4min on the clock he was packing up his gear because he knew it was over…Jimbo is getting that call list together for all new defensive coaches and will have a staff together by DEC,
Trustees and Boosters
Do something anything. I just want potential recruits to hear the magic words BB won’t be here after this year.
Playstation All American, right again!
TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
I hate to write it, but FSU will have to keep losing
for the numb-skulls to get the message down in Tallahassee.
EXACTLY, it has gotten this bad.
"I'm falling apart, I'm barely breathing, With a broken heart thats still beating, In the pain is the healing, in Your Name I find meaning, So I'm holdin' on.. holdin' on to you."
and there were many, many people on this site who could see it coming... back then I was blind too, thinking it could all go down peacefully with Jimbo turning it around and Bobby stepping down in good time.
"I'm falling apart, I'm barely breathing, With a broken heart thats still beating, In the pain is the healing, in Your Name I find meaning, So I'm holdin' on.. holdin' on to you."
The key here is our people are stupid sheep to the slaughter. the key player is Bowden.
He sways the retarded fan base and he held the key to a peaceful transition.
Yeah, right!
No lower
I never thought it was possible..EVER!!!FSU Defense a LAUGHINGSTOCK IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL???Even Buffulo ranks above us in total defense…Buffulo!!!!
Jimbo isn't sticking around for this.
Maybe long enough to get the 5 mil, but the 1st decent HC offer that comes his way and I bet you he will leave skid marks getting the hell out of Tally.
Ummm…. he will be the next HC this year or next year. There’s no doubt about it. FSU will not buy him out.
Yeah....
He might be hoping Bowden hangs around for 2011 so he can collect his rent.
“One day, Jimbo, this whole factory will be yours. Everything you see: the assembly lines, the products, the managers, the front office. All yours. Now… in the mean time, help me with this can of gasoline….. and grab some matches…”
by coonhound on Oct 11, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
if he leaves prior to 2011 - HE owes FSU $5Mil - nobody will touch that buyout
Now if this is allowed to fester and blister after 2011 and HE receives his $5M bonus – then yes, he’ll blow town so fast it’ll make your head spin
I don't know about that
Where else could you be idolized for 500 football and have people say you can stay forever. Even if you are not winning you can just hire a PR firm and lie.
Playstation All American, right again!
TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
well
I watched the game over at a friends house and it got to the point where I was hardly even paying attention when our defense was on the field because I knew it would just be atrocious. The noles offense was great to watch, Ponder played about as solid of a game as anyone could realistically ever hope for and guys were making plays all over the field. However its tough to expect the offense to score a TD on every single drive which is basically what we would have had to do to pull this one off. Jimbo Fisher’s offense once again was the only thing keeping FSU from suffering one of the biggest blowouts in the history of the program.
"No, like I said, Woo peed on my rug" - The Dude
Who do I write the letter to?
To let them know I will no longer give money to Boosters and for season tickets until Bowden announces a definitive date that he is stepping down? I guess the president of the Seminole Boosters?
Ill hand deliver the letter
To the boosters on monday.
and Im serious.
Bowden came a full circle
This year 2009, worst start since Bowden’s first season at Florida State in 1976.
1976 record 5-6; 2009 record so far, 2-4. Its gonna get even worst.
Bowden’s last season could get uglier than his first season.
I'm glad you mentioned 'comical'.
There was a point in this game (Jermaine’s long run in the third), where I actually laughed out loud for several minutes. The way both teams moved the ball in this game was insane. It was as if defenses were non-existent.
Track Meet, Yup
That is what my buddy called it…at least we had to do a LITTLE on offense to earn TD’s…
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 11, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone notice the coaches expressions
Only Jimbo ever got excited or showed any concern in his face during the second half. Amato gave up, even Mickey who screams when he doesn’t know what to do was emotionless.
Bobby was asking Chuck something on GT’s last drive, looks like he said “I don’t know,” not really surprised.
Hey, Chuckie....
Yeah, Coach?
Did we think about stopping that #9 out there?!?
Yeah, Coach… we’re working on it…. we told our defense that he might keep the ball and run.
Great Job… I was just checking… dont mean to meddle or micromanage
yeah really
That stupid quote they showed from Bowden where he was talking about not wanting to micromanage.
All I heard was, I want other people to do work but me get paid like I am doing a lot of work but I don’t ever want to be held accountable…and be able to leave at any point on my own terms regardless of the teams performance.
"No, like I said, Woo peed on my rug" - The Dude
by Surfanole on Oct 11, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mickey has checked out.
He doesn’t care anymore. And, really, given the coaching he has to work with on that side of the ball, and the fact that he apparently didn’t want to come back this year but did so to prevent Amato from taking over the D, I can’t say I blame him for checking out.
by Drew J Jones on Oct 11, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say he's ckecked out
the game has passed him by and he’s just overmatched coaching wise — not much he can do and he may realize that
He should have went back to dog pile on the center...
It worked better…
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
for Amato and Andrews stopping the flex bone offense is like when you take a test and have absolutely NO CLUE of any of the answers. No need to get mad, you’re not going to yell, you just say F it, i have no idea, walk the test up to the professor and leave.
by Brandon B on Oct 11, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
wish i could rec this 10 times
everyone should read this….
They just marked "C" as the answer to every question and hoped for the best.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
by FrankDNole on Oct 12, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, Where's Our Defense?
I just sat there in disbelief… AGAIN. It is unbelievable how night and day defense is now compared to what it was a few years ago. Bobby should have let Mickey be Mickey and support him to leave when he wanted to over a year ago.
Again, Ponder was magic. I’ve been impressed with offense and hope this continues. Mickey and Amato need to go. It is obvious where the problem is, and it is time. No hard feelings, as they deserve a great send off, but we have no defense.
I'm honestly not confident we will win another game
I mean I know we will win another game…I think, but going into everygame from here on out I’d put my confidence level at or below 50 %.
NC State and Maryland look horrible.
So, we might have a shot to win more than 1 game against a 1-A team
Do you guys think that maybe breaking the consecutive bowl streak and the .500 or better streak could be a factor in BB finally leaving? We may need a straight jacket.
It sure looks like those streaks could end.
I’ll love to see how badly VA Tech beats GA Tech next week. I think it will be a butt whoopin.
well - you KNOW UF is going to stomp us - so that's one more loss
and you got to figure we’ll drop at least one more – that put’s us at 6-6 AT BEST.
I think we’re headed for a streak busting season – yeah.
UNFORTUNATELY – that’s what it might take to finally get this program moving forward as opposed to stuck in the past with has beens. IF that’s the price – so be it. I’d rather see our program become prominent again as opposed to a punch line!!!!
The 36 yard run by Thomas
Cherry called it back. He loves to do that on long runs. The blocker was not holding either they showed a re-run of it. They kept the drive going anyway though.
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i liked what i saw out of thomas.
on the td run that was called back, he showed great acceleration and burst.
by fsufrenzy911 on Oct 11, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
They drove almost at will.
There’s really nothing bad to say in a general sense about the offense. The line screwed up a couple times, gave up a couple sacks, took a few penalties, etc. But they put 44 points on the board. Ponder had time to throw, and he put the ball where it needed to be. Thomas broke off solid runs all night.
If this team could play even half-decent defense, it’d be in the Top 20.
by Drew J Jones on Oct 11, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Offense
Jimbo’s O is damn good. The players he recruited for his O are damn good. The O is going to be better next year than this year. This team has a future. I believe behind the scenes the recruits will be told the end is nigh and that if they commit they will play as freshmen. I may be wrong but I think there is a way to make this team work. We all know Bobby is leaving no later than after next year. We need to salvage this recruiting class and I’m convinced the best way to do it is to let Fisher and the others get it done behind the scenes. Call me crazy but the Noles are not that damn bad. My wife went to UT. She’s fresh off a losing season and her team is showing promise because their coach is promising playing time and bringing in recruits. We can do the same.
Bottom line is we can improve this team immediately with a good recruiting class. We need a message from the University and we need to keep the ones we’ve got happy. Let’s do it Noles. Let’s get it done. IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
And I don’t need the responses about how I don’t understand because I do friggin understand. I spent 10 years at FSU getting an undergrad degree and then a law degree. I was there from 93-2002 working and in school so yeah I’m spoiled and want what we all want but at the same time, I don’t want to see the program tear itself up on the national stage.
We have the powers that be’s attention and changes are in the mix. Let’s get behind who we have on the field because they are playing their goddam hearts out.
The coaches are responsible for a "good" recruiting class or classes
not sure what we fans are supposed to do about recruiting since getting involved is a NCAA violation.
I'd like to send CTC one of those Heaven's Gate manuels
For insturctions to a more fulfilling and purposeful life.
What is the Over/Under on how long before a Bobby Supporter posts
a Fan Post calling everyone at TN mean and ungrateful?
No! They just got upset of black t-shirts.
They don’t get upset over bad losses. If FSU looks like death-warmed-over thats just ducky as long as Bobby B gets to collect another 2.5 mil.
I have an Idea for a NEWSWEEK cover: “The case For Pulling The Plug On GrandPa!”
That is what I have been saying
This recruiting class is the key. That is why BB needs to say the magic words but he is too arrogant. He is looking out for his ego. I see a bitter man lying through his teeth.
There will be a pr type soon saying it is all Jimbo and BB can stay forever on his terms.
Playstation All American, right again!
TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
I guarantee BB's PR assignment before the game said this...
The cameras will be on you after every play. Make sure to put the headset on very often even though it’s not plugged in. Also, any time a coach is near you, make sure to ask them a question. This will make the ESPN people think you are involved in the game.
I'm now convinced Bobby will look out for Bobby and only Bobby until the bitter end
I seriously think this man is trying to broker a deal to get one of his sons the job or coach till he dies.
Ponder
I kind of feel bad for ponder because if we had anything close to a solid defense we would have more wins and would be getting more press thus heisman talk for next year….Every analyst that see him play comes away impressed and his stats are very impressive but because we are sitting at 2-4 he will go forgotten even though he has proven to me he is amongst some of the best in the country
by Fredric on Oct 11, 2009 1:44 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
He would have to play at Notre Dame to get an award like that
with this teams record
next year?
What makes you so sure Ponder will come back. He already looks like he could go to the NFL.
The thought definately cross my mind a time or 2 tonight
couldn’t blame him who wants to stick around to loose to USF and watch half the coaches on the team not put in a full days work while you bust your ass for them
I think Ponder will stay to finish his Masters...
He’s got NFL potential, but he’s not 1st round material….
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
Can you blame him?
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
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Rec'd
I also love that Ponder seems to be the only one around who believes in accountability. The coaches could learn a thing or two from him.
Georgia Tech's wide outs
were bigger than the Nole linebackers. I swear our defense is too small at every position.
this recruiting class is HUGE….2 straight classes we brought in elite talent built up the offense…This is supposed to be the D year so we need to make something happen soon playing time will be a major sell heck the first day they get on campus they are on the two deep show them the 2deep come signing day to reel them in anything because we need serious help
Unfortunately, recruiting is going down not up.
lost two of our most important targets for the DL
the playing time angle
I think they will use the playing time angle.
They will point to Greg Reid and Jacobbi McDaniel, as well as Moses McCray last year, to show that this is a team where they can come in and compete for starting time right away.
The playing time angle will sound much better
When we hire and announce the new defensive staff. I expect an elite defensive coaching staff and im not kidding at all when I say that. Coaches that are young, energetic, good recruiters and know their positions. Still have a fire and drive to succeed. I believe it’ll work wonders. Seriously. Especially if hires are made by early January 2010. There will be an all out blitz on recruits lost and those still on the board.
Yep, those Brynes guys were a back breaker, both EE's and both really good
Could you blame them though? We’ve pretty much ruined Evertt Dawkins carrer at this point. Dose he know what position he’s playing from week to wee?
Miller hurts much more than Willis
Willis proved last week that he may be a non-factor against elite competition.
Are we gonna win a home game this year???
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Oct 11, 2009 1:50 AM EDT reply actions
Probably not...
if staff changes arent made. I think we might tie our 54 home game win streak with a 54 home game loss streak.
Asked the magic 8-ball
it said: “Try again Later”
yeah
and kentucky almost beat south carolina…..
ALMOST DON’T COUNT BOBBY!!!!
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Oct 11, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Will someone please tell Coach Bowden that we are not playing horseshoes!
Some of us would like to see some football.
Maryland.......maybe
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html
On a more postive note
Did most of you see Chris Thompson motor around the end? This guy has some gears.
Playstation All American, right again!
TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
Kentucky has a head coach in waiting
Brooks is schooling him on how not to lose by more than 30
Playstation All American, right again!
TomahawkNation
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Back from the game
Feel like complete s***. I have a homicidal hatred of Jody Allen and Chuck Amato right now.
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html
JMB me too bro...
I can tell Dr. Finklestein to put “Mom” on the backburner. I have more important disturbing issues to deal with.
Before CTC left for NCSU, I saw him at Outback near Killearn. I asked him not to leave. He thanked me and left. In hindsight, I would have helped the cause doing doing some bad things to him, Richard “Ice Man” Kuklinski style…..Bad things Man….
by LincolnHighNole on Oct 11, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I was at the game, 2nd Row 30 yard line.
Some observations:
I watched very little of the game when FSU was on D. Thank God the Golden Girls were 10 feet away from me. They were totally worth the price of admission (tickets were free…).
Black Out was an Epic Fail. I was there, sitting right behind the defensive staff, wearing black. I don’t think they noticed what with all the people around me screaming “WE LOVE BOBBY” every five seconds. The crowd gave Bobby no less than 3 standing ovations. The Bowden sycophants were in full “defend Bobby mode” all around me. Sadly, there aren’t as many fans (and I mean not even close) that want him gone, as I thought there would be. While I appreciate the blackout organizer (Kid G and G?) attempts to bring some light to the situation, it was an epic fail. As it turns out, Facebook people are worthless. They follow through about as well as you would expect college kids to.
Chuck Amato thinks he can coach. I saw him on more than one occasion thinking he was “the man.” He was trying to talk to players, the refs, trying to “coach.” More than once he gathered up defensive players (more than just the linebackers) and try to drop some ‘knowledge’ on them. Sorry man, you suck and you are GONE!!!!!!!
Bud Thacker is quite possibly one of the most annoying/least talented players to wear the uniform. I usually don’t like to hate on players…but Bud is an absolute train wreck. On one of the GT TD’s he absolutely threw a fit. It was the one (one of many) where the line backers both took the inside dive and the pitch outside was wide open. Wasn’t any of the lines fault (on that play…). It was a 12 yard or so TD run. Bud went nuts. Screaming at Haggins like if he was in, he could have done something. Then he proceeded to flip out and kicked over some chairs. And then HEY!!!! What do you know? He was supposed to be on the point after and was almost late getting on the field. You may have noticed him sprinting onto the field just as the ball was snapped. He was late because he was busy being a moron.
Some others have made this point. Ponder, if Bobby comes back, go pro. To hell with it. You deserve better too. I wouldn’t blame you for a second if you declared for the draft. You manage to get a decent draft projection, take it. But IMO I don’t think he will. He stays next year no matter what. We’ll see.
I feel bad for the seniors. I mean that. Especially Dekota Watson. I was close enough to hear him yell at his teammates when he rallied them around him trying to get them fired up. He is a great Seminole and I just really wish we could have had a team (coaches really) worthy of his devotion. Sorry, man. I really hope you get to go play in the Pros and make a ton of money.
I can’t believe there were people dumb enough to say this was Jimbo’s fault. Are you kidding me? They should all be fixed so they can’t raise retarded football fans. And the worst part of it? The game played out so that Bobby can say, “well you know we were just a couple of plays away from winning.” AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I just want to scream in his face. NOT ONE PUNT, NOT ONE PUNT YOU CLUELESS SELFISH MORON!!!!!!!!!!!
I might come up with some more stuff later. My heart/head might explode if I keep going…To be continued…..
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 11, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I noticed that, too.
Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html
Also
Noticed how that all seemed to stop toward the end of the 4th quarter
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html
nice writeup
90% of FSU fans know zero about football it seems. Sad stuff
by Cee on Oct 11, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As a wrestling fan...
…I can say I don’t want him in the ring. Wrestlers have to be athletic and strong, and Thacker is neither of those things.
This defense is the worst I’ve ever seen at FSU.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Oct 11, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm...(sung to the entrace of the Big Show)...
WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, it’s Budd Nas-tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
Well 9 second half points
to their 21 didn’t help either
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Oct 11, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions
That's because...
They decided to not go for 80 yard TD runs anymore. Just hang on to it and control the clock…
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 11, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
We had oppurtunities to score more
in the 3rd. But way less than in the first 2 quarters. They played the keep away game and it was smart.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 11, 2009 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Blame the offense. They should have scored on every single possession. 44 points is not enough. Fire Jimbo! [sarcasm]
Sadly, some people will actually be serious when they
say that very thing
Yeah.....
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Oct 11, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Those people are unbelievably dumb
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html
I truly feel that this was the defense's "Wake Forest" moment
No punts forced. Good God we are terrible.
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html
I saw a bad performance coming...
but I never expected anything like this. It looked like GT was running the option against air most of the night, they were doing whatever they wanted.
The worst part of this (on the field)
is that, in the next game, NONE of the problems we saw on defense tonight will be fixed. That’s all on the staff.
We'll make UNC's pathetic offense look like world beaters
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html
Too drunk to keep typing
but I can’t wait to see how Bobby continues to defend himself, and how many people keep saying its not his fault, 0% his fault.
Well at least he is a “problem solving” CEO.
I can’t believe he settles for just $2.5MM, with his CEO skills he should go manage AIG.
He would make more, though I’m not sure if he could be skilled enough to lose only $100 Billion a year.
My new Bobby Bowden test question.
I want to ask all these people a question. Especially all these Bobby lovers that have children.
If Bobby Bowden had no other responsibilities would you let him take care of you infant? For an hour? A day? How about a month?
What’s that you say? You wouldn’t trust him to keep your kid from drinking some tasty bleach? Or from drowning in a 3 inch puddle of their own urine? Or possibly his? Or from seeing just how “zappy” electricity can be?
No, you wouldn’t. Because you know he would say to your 8 month old, “be a good little boy, Uncle Bobby has to take a nap.” Then when he wakes up he just wouldn’t understand why the kid suffocated himself with his own blanket. COME ON PEOPLE. GET A CLUE!!!!!! He should not be in charge of a multimillion dollar organization. Or be getting paid ungodly amounts of money to do nothing but suffocate children…I mean hurt this team. To hell with it. I’m going to bed. It is absolutely infuriating to sit there and listen to all these morons sitting around me. Bobby DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOU LOYALTY. Just to hell with it (crap…there goes the ol’ ticker).
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 11, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I just
Emailed Nick Saban and asked him if we could borrow his defense and coaches for the next game….
waiting for a response….
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Oct 11, 2009 2:57 AM EDT reply actions
Heard back from Nick
Said not only NO, BUT H3LL MOTHER ^&*%$&(@ NO!! Said his players and coaches would be ruined if we borrowed them.
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Oct 11, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I blame this site...
thats it, seriously. Its time to put the blame where it belongs; on Tomahawk Nation. I feel like I am in the effing matrix! Blue pill, Red pill. Someone plug me back in. I would love to go back to being delusional, thinking Bobby is the solution, not the problem. You people and your reason, your stats, and your logic. I want to be a blathering idiot to. Why did you take that away from me….
When you put me back in, I want to be someone important, like someone who built something so beautiful that only I am allowed to destroy it, and I will.
by Miaminole on Oct 11, 2009 4:35 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
that was hilarious...
Thanks for the laugh, Hunter S.Thompson from the 305….
by LincolnHighNole on Oct 11, 2009 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
and I still know jack shit ! but that’s a lot more then….
by Renegade_NOL3 on Oct 11, 2009 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm just thoroughly speechless
As someone else above said, this is on par with Wake Forest as far as I’m concerned. Whatever, if this is the pill we have to swallow to get Bowden out I’ll deal with it. I won’t enjoy it, but I’ll deal.
by Jonathan Loesche on Oct 11, 2009 7:52 AM EDT reply actions
Please
The blue pill red pill/Hunter Thompson reference is simply going to confuse the BB faction. They will have no idea what you are talking about.
Curiouser and curiouser said Alice!
Playstation All American, right again!
TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
Totally confused because all those old fools
have to take tons of multi colored pills daily. “Blue pill, red pill? Oh yes I take two of each twice every day. In the morning with my oatmeal and right before bed after I’m done praying that Bobby will coach until he’s 150.”
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 11, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Dr. Mario!
I’m going to download that now.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Oct 11, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Urban is with us all the way
In the interview before the LSU game he was asked about Bobby. It appears he and Bobby have become somewhat close according to him and he is 100% behind BB. I would be also if I were recruiting against him. You are guaranteed to never lose a top prospect.
This is the same Meyer who tells recruits in private FSU is a thug school, but at least before the media he is on our team.
Playstation All American, right again!
TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
by DocHoliday2 on Oct 11, 2009 8:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Aren't you supposed to win once in awhile
When your quarterback is breaking his own passing record on a weekly basis and puts up 45 points for you?
Playstation All American, right again!
TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
You would think.
Quite honestly, I can’t be bothered by’em anymore. I just hope my beloved NFL team, which is desperately in need of receivers and a smart QB, goes after Ponder and some combination of Reed, Fortson, Goodman, or Easterling.
Absolutely stunning that a team can have such a powerful offense can be so pathetic on defense. And the defense is getting worse every week.
by Drew J Jones on Oct 11, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
The "I love Bobby Bandwagon" still has room for more... seriously... y'all come hop on...
We’re going places!
by coonhound on Oct 11, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
do you know what
‘bandwagon’ means? it means “a particular activity or cause that has suddenly become fashionable or popular”. hmmm, based on the number of fans that have been continuing to support the team by coming to the games over the past decade and the continued strong booster support (despite hysterical claims of their supposed ever-impending, yet curiously never-manifesting revolt), I’d say the bandwagon is pretty full of the small, if noisy crowd that is obssessed with bringing down Bowden.
reality check
$12 million is 3% of the Seminole Booster’s total endowment. That’s 0.75% for each of the four years you’re talking about. Consider the effect of the economy as a contributing factor to that decrease, and you’ll have a very very difficult time convincing me that the boosters as a whole are making some sort of statement about the program. Fortunately, most boosters wisely look beyond the temporary and soon to be resolved problems with the football program to see to the financial well-being of the entire athletic program, which on the whole is doing exceptionally well, thank you very much.
So you recognize there are problems with the football program
Do you acknowledge that they are the direct result of the negligence and incompetence of a head coach past his prime? Because any other school in the nation would. You defend him and criticize people for wanting him out, but for me it only makes sense to blame him in losses the same way we praised him for years of victory.
who
says i don’t blame him for losses? of course i do, they’re mostly his fault and he appears to be absolutely incompetent. What does that have to do with anything I said above? i’m not defending his coaching ability. i’m mocking this holier-than-thou pseudo-moral attitude that so many people here express.
what i criticize is people who apparently feel the need to demonstrate their moral superiority by judging not the coach, but the man. People who make pointless, cruel statements about him as a person instead of merely criticizing his coaching.
unfortunately, when some people realize that their (correct and proper) judgement of the man as a coach is not being heeded, they make the gigantic and deeply ignorant leap to judging him as a human being in the hopes that they can destroy him as a person and get what they want (his dismissal/retirement) that way. this level of judgement is another matter altogether, and i seriously doubt there’s anyone who comes on a fan forum like this who’s worthy to sit in that position, myself included.
is it really that difficult to understand that a man can judged strictly on his value as a coach without making some sort of ultimate statement about his value as a person? it’s just sad to me that for some people, their personal happiness in life seems to be so deeply dependent on the success of your unviersity football team that they find the need to degrade a relatively decent human being for being less successful than they want him to be.
that they can’t hear even the slightest positive statement about the man without flying into a moral outrage. if you are one of those people, do you really have such a deeply painful lack of self worth and have you become so wrapped up in the success of your university football team that you feel the need to attack our coaches value as a human being? that’s just sad, no matter how bad of a coach he is.
His decisions as a MAN have impacted the job he's done as a coach.
For instance being a man of integrity and good character he would have hired a quality-elite offensive coordinator in 2001 instead of his son. That decision was selfish and went against the policy of the university. He threatened to quit if he didn’t get his way, which is childish. At this point in his career he has absolutely no reason to continue coaching other than to chase a record, is that not true? Just because people point out when something is wrong, or reprehensible doesn’t mean they’re taking a moral high ground. Bobby Bowden has done a lot to have his character called into question including glaringly arrogant statements and actions that have shown that he’s put himself above this university.
I’m not going to say he’s an awful person, but he is in fact selfish and has a very VERY hard time owning up to when he’s done something wrong. Liar could also be thrown in there. Now many of us may well be liars as well, but none of us (to my knowledge) are guilty of lying to millions of people like he is. Like it or not, some things and some people’s actions hold a little more weight than others. Bobby Bowden put himself in a position to accept high praise when he does things right, which means he should be equally prepared to take heavy heat and criticism when he does things wrong.
are you
trying to illustrate my point, or was that just incidental? your self-justification would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. and it is exactly what i’m talking about.
i beg to differ
i think i annoy you much more effectively than mangum annoys any of our opponents.
Or perhaps you just don't get my point?
If you don’t measure a person by integrity and honesty I don’t really know what to tell you. If those things were present in Bobby Bowden he wouldn’t be getting bashed by this site and our football program wouldn’t be in its current state. The program is in a terrible position right now based on personal decisions he’s made. People call him a thief because he continues to reap the benefits of a $2.4 million job while doing very little of the work required of him in order to be successful at it. He then turns around and tells the media every single week “I don’t know what more I can do” which is a lie. He says “I hire the best coaches for the job” another lie.
“We’re 1 or 2 plays away from being undefeated”
“We’re missing that one playmaker”. Which basically says to an entire locker room full of his players “None of you are playmakers and we’re losing because of it”.
Things like this cause fans like us to call him a jackass, a moron, an idiot and so forth.
You have NO idea what you are talking about...
the boosters ‘endowment’ is only about $30 Million.
Are you speaking of the budget? That is around $45 Million.
You either can’t do math, don’t know what you are talking about, or just pulling numbers from mid air.
you're
right about the numbers. sorry, got bad stats from my asst. unfortunately i can’t fire him because despite his apparent inability to do his job correctly he is my brother after all :) clearly, i was given the amount for the total endowment of fsu, not the booster’s.
unfortunately for you it hardly affects my argument at all.
though the loss of booster funds is significant enough to note, there is still clearly quite strong booster support for the program, obviously considerably more support for it than against it. otherwise you wouldn’t have these slight hints of political games being played by those who want bowden out. if the boosters were really turning on him as a whole, there’d be no need for such games, would there?
So what about all the potential
From people like me who have graduated in the past 8-10 years, and will not contribute until BB is gone. I know a group of people I graduated with, that have not gotten involved with the boosters (and will not) due to Bobby’s fiasco with Jeff.
Not saying I’m donating $12 mil, but spread over all the people who have been at FSU since 2001, I would bet it’s significant.
Some would be donating back but won’t because they dislike BB’s actions as a “CEO”, or just don’t care a lot because they don’t like what’s going on with the program.
BB
will be gone after next year at the latest, perhaps as soon as a few months from now. and after this season JF will be given practical control of the program regardless of BB’s position. whatever effect Bowden’s presence may or may not have on booster donations is essentially a mute point now.
i know it hurts to realize that they don’t have as much power as they think they do, or as much as they’d like to have, but the truth is any boosters who may be withholding their money to the program as a sort of protest against Bowden aren’t doing any serious damage, neither to Bowden, nor more importantly, to the school. it’s just a public slap at his continued hold on the job, which is absolutely fine, nothing morally wrong with that, just a typical, if ineffective public power play in a situation where they want a likewise ineffective coach to leave.
the school can get along without those particular boosters quite comfortably for the next 3-15 months. next year we’ll have a new president and a new head coach (in practice if not in title) and that small cabal of non-supportive boosters will have to either find a new excuse for withholding their support or they will have to return to the ’nole family and all will be right in ’nole land.
so, considering that they will accomplish nothing by withholding their financial support now, i suppose it’s just the principle of the thing for them?
or maybe it’s just the principal?
What if they hold a grudge past one year?
by Bud Elliott on Oct 11, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
if there are
boosters that are so angry at this point that they are going to hold a grudge even after control of the program has been given to Fisher and a new president has arrived, then I’m not sure what we can do for them.
Obviously you can’t let the guy go right now, mid-season. Like him or not, and whether you understand why or not – BB is a very popular figure across the country and in the media, and if the university is perceived as mistreating him it would be a huge pr disaster for the program.
It would also most likely cause a serious rift in the booster organization itself and you can bet some of his supporters would pull their support for the program in retaliation. So that’s a non-starter.
The best scenario of course is that someone convinces him to retire at the end of this season, but even if they can’t, even if he wants to return for one final year, it’s clear that he would be no more than a figurehead. I would think that most boosters could understand that situation and if they can’t, there’s really nothing else we can do for them. Honestly, and I don’t mean this in a rude way, but it’s not that big a deal because Bowden will soon be gone and even if those particular boosters don’t renew their support, there will be new boosters to take their place as the program begins its new era next year.
I know this season is painful guys, but next year is going to look very different. There will be an entirely new defensive coaching staff and JF will have actual control over the program. Honestly, I don’t expect BB to stick around, given the conditions he would have to agree to, but even if he does it really doesn’t matter because he won’t be able to screw anything up. The new era begins next season either way.
I see what you are trying to say, I do
But I want to ask you this, will you at least admit that he is being selfish when he refuses to set a date? Of all the things we are asking, I think 9/10 would be beyond thrilled if he just came out and said, “Guys, it was a great run. Im sorry I didnt make the decision quick enough for everyone, but I thought I had earned the right to make sure. I am pleased with what I accomplished along with this Univ I have come to love, and because of that love, I will be stepping down at the end of this season. This school has given me so much, its time to give something back. I have heard rumblings that recruits are worried about chaos, well let me make it clear; this will be my last season as the head coach for Florida State. I would love to stick around and help the program in whatever capacity the Univ would have me. Go Noles.”
I happen to think half of us might die from shock. Its simple, classy, and shows that he realizes there is a fear that he will never step down.
Just ignore Humanbeing
He will stop eventualy
by Renegade_NOL3 on Oct 12, 2009 4:54 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL, I'm sure I can scrouge one here in Iraq
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Oct 11, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions
Future games
no future opponents are wishbone teams, but why not throw it in their gameplan as a wrinkle? Its obvious we can’t stop it. Perhaps I am being obtuse, and maybe its a lot harder of an offense to learn than it appears, but if I was UNC, Clempson, Maryland, NC State, I’d be all over that sh!t. Especially the teams with a mobile QB. If if you don’t have a mobile QB, hell, throw another RB back there to run the wishbone.
Serious question about GTs defense
How bad are they, for real? Just wondering what we can expect from this FSU offense in the future. I don’t think against UNC or Clemson for instance we’ll be able to move the ball at will and not punt once. But I don’t think its out of the question to think that we’ll be able to produce some long sustained drives on offense that result in points, as long as we don’t turn the ball over or fizzle out in the red zone. Sometimes we can be our own worst enemy in that regard. I did like what I saw last night in terms of ball security and red zone offense, for the most part.
we should beat
UNC. Yes our offense is THAT good, UNC’s offense is weak and it’s on the road, so we actually have a good chance there. Clemson is about as inconsistent as we are, so it’s hard to know about that game. Either team could blow the other out. Same with NC State (who got whupped by Duke?! this weekend). Wake should beat us pretty good. Maryland is possibly the worst team we’ll play this year, so we’ll probably eak out a victory there. Florida will embarrass our defense as Tech did and our offense won’t be able to keep up. We’ll end up 5-7 on the season, 6-6 if we’re lucky. And as his parting gift, the story of BB retiring will get us into a bowl game with some weak crap team that we will dominate, giving us hope for the beginning of the Jimbo Fisher era next year.
they'll probably make up
some new bowl for god’s sake, something like the departing legend’s bowl sponsored by depends undergarments (thought i’d throw you bowden haters a bone ;)
it's a good
point, but our offense didn’t look so good only because Tech was so bad. Our offense looked like an elite offense should look against a crappy defense, finally. I’ll be surprised if we manage to repeat our Tech performance against the much better UNC defense, but I suspect our guys are ‘getting’ it now and will be tough for any defense.
One thing I was interested in.
The defensive formation. I kinda expect to see that vs UF, as Tennessee basically did the same thing with their front 5 (in FSU’s case in was the front 4).
Caught hell last night from older Noles for wearing my black FSU shirt...
…Until the president of the local booster club came into the bar wearing a PLAIN black shirt; then we lost, and they left without saying anything else to anyone.
by El Soro on Oct 11, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I saw a guy in a white shirt that wrote in "Bobby is a legend, you can't kick him out" or something like that.
I yelled “Bobby’s trash now, man.” and he wimpered back “yeah, I know.”
They’re learning. It’s going to take some more losses, but they’re learning.
Too little, too late.
by pillsburysoldier on Oct 12, 2009 6:12 AM EDT up reply actions
FSU - Defense
Is currently ranked 108th in TOTAL DEFENSE.
Ranked 98 in RUSHING DEFENSE.
Ranked 101 in PASS DEFENSE.
Ranked 87 in SCORING DEFENSE.
FSU - Offense
Ranked 25th in TOTAL OFFENSE.
Ranked 82 in RUSHING OFFENSE.
Ranked 14 in PASSING OFFENSE.
Ranked 44 in SCORING OFFENSE.
Numbers are great and all, but I am still not sure if Jimbo should be given the chance. I just don't know if he is CEO material.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
Tired of the CEO analogy?
Rather us just say coach? I guess CEO is pretty much inferred when talking about a college head coach? Are you doing ok? Worried about you there Frank….
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 11, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
he has had no time to learn how to be CEO
with all that coal shoveling he does
by coonhound on Oct 11, 2009 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I will buy a canary for you and gas it to death if it will help the cause. I used to have one of those head lamps, but I have idea where it is.
New protest theme for the next game as suggested by the K-Man.
Everybody dress a coal miners and black out their faces.
Oh wait, that may not be a good idea after all.
I don’t know why this reminds me of Zoolander.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
And how much better would the offense be
If there was at least some defense. Any defense at all. My God!!!!!!!
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 11, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I've said this previously, but I think the 2010 Nole offense will be epicly good...
We just need an average defense. I’d take something in the 50-60 range, and we’ll be in the Orange Bowl…
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
What was Bobby doing last night?
Serious question. I admit – I only saw the game on TV. But when I did see Bobby, he was acting involved – but he wasn’t . He would take a little note pad out and scribble something down every once in a while – most often when the little red camera light was on and he knew it. But he was just . . . hanging around, making little or no contribution.
It’s been that way for years and he’s gotten away with it. He’s had his assistants handle everything and the infighting has only gotten worse over the years. It’s just caught up with him.
And I hate to write this, but I can’t see that Bobby is in this for anyone other than himself as he trys to keep up with Paterno. It’s all about Bobby. It’s been about Bobby.
by Dunder Mifflin Employees on Oct 11, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
Well there is no way..
Bowden will keep up with Joe Pa now. Penn St is winning games gasp while we continue to loose. Plus with any luck the NCAA Appeals Committee will uphold the infractions ruling that we vacate 14 wins, which will be the end all factor in that stupid contest and Bobby will move on.
Its funny that people forget that Bowden had a 3 or 4 game lead for a while
I’d almost guarantee that if Paterno retired in 2002 or 2003, Bobby Bowden would have done the same. Holding on right now makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
nonsense
of course he cares about the record, but it’s not his reason for so stubbornly refusing to leave. the guy’s lived and breathed football since he was a sickly child. it is the entire and only context of his life. he’s absolutely terrified of a life without football and i’m pretty sure he expects to die quite soon after he retires. it’s understandable, don’t you think, all things considered?
BB needs his family to tell him that he needs to leave...
…and they never will.
Once it became personal with Jeff Bowden, I think he decided to stay as long as possible. He’s angry and deep down wants the team to keep failing to prove that Jeff wasn’t so bad..
More like scary.
It reminded me of seeing two old men in their rockers discuss politics.
Play of the game...
Marching Chiefs ‘Thriller’.
"Some nasty players that come from those seeds down at FSU in Tallahassee, we hold ourselves to a higher standard... we'll keep grinding it out. When you step on the field you have to represent not just yourself, but for everybody." (DD #45)
THAT was awesome
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
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the BB show
“YEah ya know and we appreciate the fans too cause ahh ahhh ahhhhum people came in their garnet and gold shirts and the students were very loud did a great job for us”
oops hit post by accident..
He has NEVER talked about people coming in their garnet and gold shirts…
by Renegade_NOL3 on Oct 11, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the Black shirts movement
will need more time to grow. Like more than one week.
Yeah, he really pwned those black wearin' fools last night. Good game, Bobby.
He also addressed 2 reporters by the wrong name last night.
Double edged sword
As much as it is going to be sad to see the Legend go it is also going to be a relief to know that the players will not be subject to the coaching that has become the sister program to the Flying High Circus.
by Renegade_NOL3 on Oct 12, 2009 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Why not, the Exec Head Coach is already known as the clown.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
BB is Yoda in disguise
But Yoda’s senility has greatly diminished the force with in him
The Jedi mind trick
(walking out onto the field)
*YOU ALL BELIEVE I AM THE MASTER AND NO ONE IS BETER FOR THE TEAM BECAUSE THERE IS STILL SOMTHING IN THIS FOR ME YA KNOW… (Ive never done this before so this aught to make people think I mean business NOW! ya know…)
- Nothing out of the ordinary to see here, just running my football team like I do every weekend taking the all inportant coaches notes…..
When really I’m reviewing the notes from my PR firm for when the reporters ask me them pesky questions because the PR firm said I could not pay them to ask the questions I want them to.
Cause ya know my memory aint what it used to be .. ya know
Also just taking a few notes on what I’m going to say on the BB show after the game
Cause ya know my memory aint what it used to be .. ya know
I can keep this sympathy credit card because I’m Bobby Bowden this thing has no limit
If i can keep the sheep happy for a few more years till these dadgum coaches can get me another National Championship thats all I want then I can get Terry the Head Coach position They owe it to me ya know. Because no one knows blocking and tackling like mah boy Terry. Ya know.
How does Bruce Feldman have us in the Gator Bowl?!?!
http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections?season=2009&week=6
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html
Thanks for that link.
But don’t you have to have to be at least 6-6 to qualify for a bowl game? Maybe since Bobby has been at FSU for so long, he deserves to be in a bowl even with a losing record.
Oh well, who is it for us to decide – or the NCAA or bowls – it’ll be Bobby’s decision about which bowl, if any, at the end of the season.
by Dunder Mifflin Employees on Oct 12, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Mickey kept his cool
I noticed Mickey was not even yelling. Has he given up already? If he were a quitter he go home. I feel so bad for him. Still, when will he learn the option team lives to take advantage of his defense.
It's really hard to even comprehend how bad
FSU LB’s are…And the issue is not talent like the Dline. Kendall Smith has some of the poorest technique I have ever seen out of any D-1 LB on any team. Elementary things like taking proper angles are lost on him.
Dekota Watson continually digresses since his soph campaign, and if I see him attempt to run around an oline block one more time instead of punishing the blocker I’m going to personally drive up to Tally and punch CTC in the mammories.
Bradham’s play is decent but not near what it should be
by Yarborough4Heisman on Oct 11, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yarborough is still our only hope on D
He’s had a total of four crushing tackles this season while only starting the first two games. It just goes to show how inept Jody and Mickey are at evaluating and developing talent, even when they have future first rounder at their fingertips.
by Yarborough4Heisman on Oct 11, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm tired of Bradham having to leap over blockers.
- needs to stop putting the o-linemen on their backsas it creates an additional hurdle for our linebackers. He needs to drive them 10 yards into the backfield instead. Stop sandbagging, 91.
i'm glad
someone else notices our incredible lack of angle awareness. i think all our guys must ever hear in practice is ‘run to the ball, run to the ball’. no field awareness whatsoever. that includes greg reid who the coaches keep saying ‘needs to develop’ but apparently aren’t bothering to help him develop. the kid’s talented and i love him to death, but he runs all over the place on the field and is constantly out of position.
I was listening to the postgame radio show
and Gene was interviewing the defensive “player of the game”. It was Kendall Smith. I am NOT joking.
We had a defensive player of the game?
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html
i agree
he just looked tragically sad a couple of times during the game, as he should have. but just imagine what we’d be left with if he retired mid-season — the chuckster would be running the defense!
Some observations
There were some truly Mangumesque (awful) signs at the game.
Some of them were seemingly Thackeresque (illiterate).
Anybody see the couple wearing cute little rhyming, matching shirts in Section 12?
Male sycophant: “Bobby is all class”
Female sycophant: “Jim Smith is an a**”
True story.
"That's just like a woman, ain't it?!"
-K-Man and Bobby Bowden
by The K-Man on Oct 11, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Question:
Is it too late to tell everyone the defense caught the swine flu?
Don't worry, guys
Basketball season is almost here!!
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Be a TRUE Seminole: http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071509aab.html
These are sad times.... we joined this conference initially to improve Basketball and other non-football sports
Looks like we got our wish to the temporary dismay of our football program.
Yeah, right!
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