Florida State Recruiting Update 10.28.09
by FSUSOM on Oct 28, 2009 8:00 AM EDT
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Lots of info today. As always, we funnel coverage to the 2010 Big Board and the 2010 Recruiting Map. Remember to get out and watch these prospects play. On to the coverage.
Current commits: (click the links to read more)
- DL Darious Cummings (note: Cummings committed before FSUncensored took over the site.)
- S Chad Abrams (note: we did an overview in a March WORT after Abrams committed.)
- DE Tavaris Barnes
- Holmes Onwukaife
- De'Joshua Johnson
- Tank Sessions
- Telvin Smith
- Jared Haggins
- Terrence Brooks
- Cameron Erving
- Clint Trickett
- Nigel Terrell
Some notes, some Junior College players to keep an eye on, and how Bobby Bowden is destroying FSU recruiting
Observations:
- One recruit FSU has to hold on to is Dunnellon CB Terrence Brooks. Kid is the truth. He is smooth smooth smooth. He has great hips and his backpedal is pretty good. Plus closing speed. High cut, and built like a tree trunk. He is listed at 5'10'', but members who have seen him play say that he is 6'0''-6'1'' in cleats. His speed is very good, as he recorded a 4.44 40 time at a combine last spring. He covered Willis Wright, one of the best receiving prospects in South Florida, straight up in a 7 on 7. As physical as Wright is, that is tough in a 7 on 7 format. Brooks can end up a physical monster in college. As member jfree says, he has cornerback skills with safety size. Brooks has the potential to be a great two to three year starter with coaching.
- Miami Hialeah DE Corey Lemonier will probably be at Illinois next year if Ron Zook is not fired. If Zook is fired, which is definitely not out of the equation, the 'Noles have an excellent shot.
- Multiple news outlets reported that Tampa Catholic WR Christian Green recently said that Georgia was his leader. That is probably true, but I still think that UF is the bigger threat in this race. If Lawrence Dawsey stays on staff, the 'Noles will still be in the thick of the race. FSU does not want this kid to commit soon
- As alluded to above, the longer some of these prospects wait, the better chance FSU has. It's pretty simple.
- FSU is doing a pretty good job in South Florida in regards to the 2011 class. James Coley is really jumping on prospects early. Great to see.
- STA DB Lamarcus Joyner had a great visit to Notre Dame. That being said, I still expect OSU, FSU, or UF to land him. I hope he makes his decision in January or February,
- STA RB Gio Bernard committed to Notre Dame after his visit. While I was not expecting Gio to commit the 'Noles after FSU's start, I did not expect him to commit this early. It will be interesting to see what FSU's plan B is.
- Lake Howell LB Christian Jones had an outstanding visit to ND (see a pattern here?). I still expect him at FSU next year. The 'Noles have done a great job recruiting him, and his connections to the school help.
- Dr. Phillips WR Kenny Shaw is still a huge 'Nole lean.
- Once a huge FSU lean, Tampa CB Terrence Mitchell is looking around. He has taken a visit to UGA, and will be at Tennessee this weekend. Not confident on him, but I feel like the 'Noles can still get him if they fix their problems (starting at the top with Bowden).
- Glades Central DB Greg Dent still wants an FSU offer. Badly. I do feel that he gets one in the end.
- The best case scenario for this recruiting class would be to win out. Obviously, I do not feel like that will happen (UF and Clemson). I think Bowden is gone regardless, and a bowl game would be big for this class.
A 2011 prospect that is blowing up:
ATH Kevin Grooms, from Hollywood, Florida. He goes to South Broward High School. Measurables are 5'10'' 160 and I'd say that he runs in the low 4.4, if not 4.3. Speed, speed, speed, and even more speed. Extrememly explosive. He really came onto the football scene against McArthur High School, where he had over 200 yards of total offense and returned a punt for the game winning score. He has had something ridiculous like three straight games of 200+ total offensive yards. Grooms has that special attribute - one step, and he is at top speed. Charles Fishbein (of Elite Scouting Services) believes the kid projects best as a CB. I don't know, as I would rather have him with the ball in his hands. He is receiving interest from FSU and Tennessee, and there are some rumors that both schools have offered him. He is open, but he does like FSU.
VIDEO: http://elitescoutingservices.com/news/2009/10/19/ess-player-of-the-week-kevin-grooms-south-broward/ (click on watch video; I am currently having problems viewing. Take my word - he is good.)
If any members get out and see any of these kids play, please post a report in the 2010 BB!
From jfree, about FSU commitment CB Terrence Brooks
let start off with his teams offense is potent, they racked up a 108 points in their first 2 games, but their first true test will come against next week against North Marion High School, ranked 10th in class 3a, and lost by one point to the best team in 3a (St. Augustine 34-33ot) opening week, so Terrance will be relied on heavily against North Marion (he plays cb,wr,rb and handles punt and kick return)
ok but this game vs west port wasnt a close match up, and Terrance was out by the second half, so i just got his key stats, and a couple quick observations.
- hes huge, listed as 5-10, but i’d have to bet he is 6’0 now (or better), just towered on the field, he was taller than 4 of his 5 o-linemen, doesnt look like a average cb, looks like a wr but with a thicker lower body, he has a solid base, almost looks safety-ish.
-performance wise he had a solid game, looks like high school is "easy" for him, almost like he was bored, he did fumble a punt, but i think it was because he was tryin to be flashy and not call a fair catch, he got hit right when he caught it (not a hard hit, dont worry about his health) but other than that it was a good game, he almost had a very long td reception ( had the corner beat by 10 yards, woulda been about a 70+ yard score) but the pass was bad, so he barley was able to catch it just to get a pick up (picked up about 30 before tip-toeing the sideline and going out of bounds.) He did the next series have a long td catch a good 40+ yards, then finished his night with a long td run roughly around 40 yard range, finished overally with 100+ total yards and 2 tds.
overall impression like i said he looked bored, obviously the best athlete on the feild by far for both teams, he’s fast has a great burst and with his long legs looks like he glides when he runs, almost looks like he could make a good wr with his frame and speed, when he runs hes not a "juker" or studder stepper, he makes his decision and goes, biggest thing he reminds me of is what people refer to as a "homerun threat" literally seems when he touches the ball he can score at anytime.
well ok thats my overall i geuss "review" of him, but now from week on i’ll keep it shorter, and just post his stats.
That is an outstanding report.
From NaGaNole:
-Lowndes played this game mad. I guess nothing like the cross town rival and a loss to Northside/Warner Robbins the previous week to bring out the mean streak.
-Telvin Smith Very fast for a LB, made a handful to tackles for loss. 9 total. Very comparable to Dekota Watson, but tackles very well.
-Lowndes has a kid, # 26, I think his name is Orta(sp?). He’s a junior, and can make plays. Add him to that 2011 recruiting BB.
-Tyler Hunter. Wow. Looks like Taylor Mays. I sure hope he wears G&G. Orta gets a lot of chances because no one wants to test Hunter. Hunter and Smith seem to be good friends, saw them talk on the sidelines all night.
-Ed Christian plays right tackle for Lowndes. I though he played left. Looked good. Good push on running plays. Decent pass protect, although the guy going up against him tonight was slow as molasses.
-Jay Rome is a prototype prostyle TE. I see him at a school that runs a prostyle like UGA or USCw. We’d have to really start using the TE more to bring him here. I don’t think he’d want to be an H-back in our offense.
I think Troy is getting a gem in Franklin.
Another outstanding report. I assure you that these reports do not go unnoticed.
Junior College Players
As everyone that follows recruiting by now, FSU is targeting many Junior College football players for this cycle. Most will probably visit for the Maryland game.
MORE: Copiah Lincoln (Menzie). Note that you can watch Pearl River on video too (upper right hand tab)
DE Wayne Dorsey (6'6'' 255). Perkinston (MS) Gulf Coast Community College
Wayne Dorsey's 2008 Highlight Video (via
Our thoughts on Dorsey: I watched full Game film on Dorsey, and he has a really high motor, never taking a play off. Also he has good size for the DE position. He looks like he is strong, and he gets up field very fast. He had two sacks and multiple QB pressures in the game. He is better in the passing game than against the run right now, and needs some coaching in using his hands but has good moves to break contact sometimes. Very rangy. An outstanding player who would be an upgrade right now.
Take? I would like him to commit, and there is a good chance that he will eventually, possibly when he officially visits. FSU has an outstanding shot.
DT James Carmon (6'7'' 350). Perinston (MS) Gulf Coast Community College
James Carmon's 2008 Highlight Video (via MPMballer)
Our thoughts on Carmon: There are a lot of people who are very excited about the idea of Carmon, because he is such a massive NG. However, I am not one of those people. While he is huge and would upgrade our line weight he carries a lot of it in his mid section, his base isn't proportional. That is to say nothing about his absolute lack of lateral movement, and the amount of time it takes him to start up and run in a straight line. In my opinion he is only playable on running downs in a 3-4. He plays heads up in a 3-4 now.
Take? If it were up to me he would not receive an offer, if it were up to many others he would. It will be interesting to see how FSU handles this. The 'Noles have been in contact.
DL Charles Deas (6'6'' 300). Poplarville (MS) Pearl River C.C.
FANtastic football clips No. 33 - Charles Deas (via RecruitingJunkie56)
Our thoughts on Deas: We covered Deas last week. I included the video in case some of you missed it. This is from his high school days.
Take? Definitely and the 'Noles have an outstanding shot. I expect him to be at FSU next year.
DE Scardino Daniels (6'5'' 240). Poplarville (MS) Pearl River C.C.
Our thoughts on Daniels: Daniels is a wide body that displays a good getoff at times.
Take? Yes, probably. I do think he will be in FSU's class.
DT Amp McCloud (6'3'' 290). Itawamba (MS) C.C.
Amp McCloud High lite video (via ytsejam180)
Our thoughts on McCloud: I covered him back in July.
Take? Yes, and FSU will. The 'Noles are trying to hide him. He will have three years to play.
RB Debrale Smiley (6'0'' 240 4.6). Itawamba (MS) C.C.
Our thoughts on Smiley: Debrale is going to be a very good player. He is fast for his great size, a truely dynamic size/speed combo. He is also a hard worker.
Take? Yes, and FSU will. The 'Noles are trying to hide him. He will have three years to play.
CB Mike Harris (5'11", 185) from El Camino (CA)
Our thoughts on Harris: Harris is pretty much everything you want in a corner prospect. He can turn and run, tackle, he has it all. Very impressive.
Take? He is going to Alabama. Great get for the Tide.
DT Akeem Moore (6'5", 325). East Central C.C. (MS)
Akeem Moore Junior College Highlights (via xXxK33MMO3xXx)
Our thoughts on Moore: A big body in the middle. Good skills for his size.
Take? FSU has not been in contact. At this point, I would say no.
DB Dequan Menzie (5'11'' 200 4.5) Perinston (MS) Gulf Coast Community College.
Our thoughts on Menzie: Excellent measurables. Bama, UGA, Clemson, Auburn are all on him. He graduated from Columbus Carver High School (class of 2008) in Georgia. He is current FSU receiver Jarmon Fortson's former teammate. He can flip and run (turn 'n burn). Good closing speed, and he is a strong kid.
Take? Should be a serious candidate. I would like to explore the high school options FSU has though. Jimbo Fisher has made contact with Menzie.
DB Johnnie Dixon (5'11'' 190 4.4) Poplarville (MS) Pearl River C.C.
Dixon is an untapped talent with unlimited upside not only as a safety, but as a versatile athlete who possesses offensive and kicking game skills......One of the fastest safeties we have seen this year. Has excellent instincts for a guy who lacks experience, reads keys well and locates the ball carrier quickly. Possesses outstanding closing speed, takes the shortest path to the ball and is an explosive open field tackler capable of knocking the ball loose............... Shows the ability to change directions quickly, explodes out of cuts and has good short-area man-to-man cover skills. Possesses ideal size and range to play sideline-to-sideline. Has long arms and can cover the deep half of the field. Is tall, has good leaping ability and flashes the ability to catch the ball at its highest point.........Possesses good ball skills and is capable of making some big plays in coverage. REPHRASE
Our thoughts on Dixon: Haven't really seen much. I only watched one game film, and the opposing team did not really throw or run to his side at all. He was playing corner.
Take? There are rumors that FSU is interested.
I would expect 2-7 (possibly more) JuCo players in this class. JuCos add much needed physical maturity and depth to Florida State's roster. These are not filler kids. These are very talented kids who have many offers from premier teams. FSU will not just take any JuCo.
Bobby Bowden is destroying FSU's recruiting efforts
Recruits simply don't care about him anymore. You even have five stars joining Blackout Group on Facebook. Bowden doesn't actively recruit. Except for in homes and officials and unofficials. Basically, except for December and January, recruits have to come see Bowden, not the other way around. Look at Kiffin, Meyer, and Carroll. Those are head coaches that are actually involved. Meyer was on the sideline of the STA-Byrnes game (featuring multiple FSU prospects). Where was Bowden? I would wager that he was sleeping. Coaches have to be involved in the recruiting game now. Bowden simply is not. FSU is getting negatively recruited against HARD. "How do you know Bowden will leave?" If you think negative recruiting does not have an impact, think again. It does. Most kids believe pretty much anything you tell them. The coaches are doing damage control to the best of their ability. It must be tough with basically half a staff. This is really killing the Noles right now.
And, just because I couldn't resist........
MattDNole's Top Seven (Ten would lead to copyright issues) Reasons Why Bobby Bowden is Bad for Recruiting:
- Christian Jones is allergic to metamucil.
- Lamarcus Joyner is afraid of liver spots.
- His stories of "the good ol' days" in 1940s Alabama don't resonate with today's urban youth.
- Kids are looking for a father figure, not a Father Abraham figure.
- Old people smell funny.
- It didn't help when he asked Christian Green to park his car on Christian's unofficial visit.
- He thinks a Twitter is a cream-filled dessert cake.
A fitting conclusion.
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depressing
It is starting to become worrisome that with the exception of Shaw we don’t seem to be leading for any of our big targets. My hopes for this class now are that we get enough JuCo kids to shore up our defense for the next year or two. With an average defense we could win the ACC next year and that combined with a new staff would have our recruiting back to where it should be.
Great work as always!
I agree I look forward to the recruiting updates, but they just seem to get more and more depressing with us loosing ground on so many of our targets. I hope these juco guys are able to jump right in and turn this thing around so we don’t take another big hit in the next cycle.
by vegasnole9399 on Oct 28, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Regarding the "depressing" comments
TN is not about selling subscriptions, so we don’t paint a false rosy picture about recruiting when it doesn’t reflect the reality of the situation. We tell it like it is, because Nole fans deserve that.
There are good things happening for FSU on the recruiting trail, believe me. January is going to be a CRUCIAL month.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 28, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Let me make myself clear. I’m not depressed with the work you guys do at TN, it’s by far the best Noles site. What’s depressing is Jimbo & Cooley are fighting an up hill battle with little or no help from the rest of the staff. It’s hard to believe that with their jobs probably being on the line these guys aren’t out recruiting their ass off trying to impress the new boss.
by vegasnole9399 on Oct 28, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
It isn’t depressing because of the guys at TN, it is depressing because our half of our staff has no idea how to recruit.
by osceolafan850 on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Confront Bobby!
Has anyone in the media confronted BB about recruiting. I would love to hear him try and charm his way around it. He has two or three guys doing all of the heavy lifting in recruiting. Justify that! Jimbo and co. are trying their best put together a good class. Where’s the legend that everybody wants to play for, huh? Is he out on the recruiting trail doing damage control…. hell no!
Sure he wants to go out on top? How and the hell is he suppose to do that when he’s constantly chasing recruits away. It doesn’t make any damn sense. WTF…. he doesn’t know? Yeah right, he knows….but like you guys have been saying for months, he just doesn’t give a damn about this program.
FSUSOM, another great job!
by Noletorious on Oct 28, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I completely agree
Bobby is not only bringing down our program right now, he is bringing down the future of it. Can you imagine all of the negative recruiting that goes on against FSU right now?
2006 & 2007 Classes
No one has ever questioned him on recruiting, the 2006 & 2007 classes are proof of that. That is prime example of why we have no depth on defense. Most of the kids we signed in those classes are elsewhere or out of football. I would love to see someone call out Bobby on that.
by vegasnole9399 on Oct 29, 2009 5:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Thoughts on Amp
watching that video was impressed by how well he played the DE spot (4-3). He did something that we (as FSU fans) haven’t seen from our DEs the last 2 games even once → set the edge. That is the first responsibility on every play from a DE, and he did it multiple times in that video clip, our team did it 0 times against GT and UNC.
He would look good on either spot on the interior of a 4-3 or the DE slot that is essentially a DT in a 3-4 look (to me should be lined up opposite the RT most plays).
Re: Kevin Groomes vid
when I clicked it it said “file not found” so it may not have been on your end.
Nice work, as always
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 28, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions
Wayne Dorsey
I have a problem with the highlight vid → 0 running play in it. Hard to judge how good a DE he is when only his pass rushing skills are showcased.
I do think he is much bigger than his listed weight of 255 → looks to be about 275-280 to me. He does move exceptionally well for his size as well.
Also did like that he showcased a variety of pass rushing techniques and wasn’t overly reliant on only 1 move eg. some guys are only speed rushers, some only bull rush types, whereas Dorsey showed an ability to be effective with both speed and power moves. He also showed very good footwork on the outside in rush. Very good balance on that move as (IMO) he wouldn’t be just shoved over by a OL on that move should they get their hands on him (as many DEs have a propensity to be just shoved on their keister with that move).
Watch some of the Copiah Lincoln Game
As I said in my description of him the passing game is ahead of the running game.
I think he is in the 265-270 range.
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IMO Dorsey is a must-get. Love his potential in the 3-4
and he could fill a DE spot if Markus White moves to the jack LB position in the 3-4 (which he should). He is every bit of 6’8" and has a long wingspan to boot- would probably show up every game with a PBU or two. With good coaching he looks to be an All ACC candidate.
I am so-so on Carmon. He looked a little better than I thought he would in film, but I’m still undecided. I’d prefer to limit the JUCO DTs to McCloud and Deas but if Deas doesn’t qualify I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing in Carmon.
Damien Jackson is another JUCO defender to keep an eye on. He is on Carmon’s team and plays safety. He might get some consideration down the road from our staff.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 28, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions
A couple of questions
of the JUCOs listed in the piece, which (if any) are Dec. grads (excl. Smiley and McCloud as we already know about those 2 being EEs)?
and re: Greg Dent getting an offer, is it IYO that he gets an offer only if we lose out on a Mitchell or Brooks or Joyner? That’s my read, but maybe I’m reading the situation all wrong.
Willie Downs & CJ Mizell
Do these two have any chance of getting in anytime soon? Those 2 were huge losses.
Downs wouldn't be eligible until Jan 2011 at the earliest
I personally don’t know what’s going on with Mizell, I’ll leave that to SWFL.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 28, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Downs has gone AWOL from PRCC, and the coached refuse to commit on it other than he's still doing well in his classes.
Mizell is done from what I hear.
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Re: Mizell
If you are referring to off the field problems that led to him not being asked to continue in our program, which were rumors swirling by many, I’m 100% sure that is not the case. I know what happened, and that he continued in the bridge program and on the field afterwards.
However it does appear he will not be able to get qualified. Which makes SWFLNole a sadboy.
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I haven't heard that.
He was playing at the beginning of this year(September) for sure. Went to play poker in Biloxi and happened to watch him a bit against Northeast. Also saw a bit of Deas. Downs is still listed on Pearl River’s roster as well.
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So it is a new development
Thanks for the link. Nice work. Not good news though especially those comments from his coach. Sounds like he is a loss for FSU.
I heard he's actually doing well in the classroom.
Rumor is that he misses being home…hopefully, all is not lost…
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MIzzell is trying his damnedest to test in
But….he’s just not that bright.
Which he would’ve stayed in prep/juco whatever.
Don’t expect him. He’s got a lot to learn on personal responsibility.
by pillsburysoldier on Oct 28, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
wish*
I dunno if he’s already given up or trying to find some other way in. All I know is don’t expect him.
by pillsburysoldier on Oct 28, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Top notch
reporting. The recruiting though has been getting depressing lately. Glad to see a mention of McCloud. Always liked that kid. JUCO picks overall seem to be doing well, but everything else is falling apart. Wish we could get the coaching problem sorted before things go really south. This could end up being a decent year for recruiting or a big bust.
Its funny when you talk about Perinston (MS) Gulf Coast Community College
I went to some school at GCCC in Panama City and I thought at first thats what you were talking about. I was about to say Ill go home and see what I can find out about them but GCCC PC dont have a football team only a B-ball and baseball team.
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Outstanding as usual
I will be sure to copy and paste this and sell it as PREMIUM information on my site in a day or two. At that point, I will need you to pull this down from here or risk an Internet ban.
Thank you.
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by DOT COM on Oct 28, 2009 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Awesome...lol
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Im looking at what we have vs what we need and getting lost
from what I see we need DT/DE, DB, and LB well hell thats the Def right there. If we are going to lose the FB and go to a 2 TE set more less then we need TE’s at least 2 more. A team never has enough WR and RB. I cant say anything about the O-line because Trickett is going to do what he does and do it well.
As for DT are we going to try to get JUCO to fill slots for depth or do we need players now(2010) season from these guys.
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We need immediate DT help
Deas and McCloud are being brought in to start or at least challenge for a starting position.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 28, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
McCloud is nowhere near FSU shape
He probably needs a year to have an impact.
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Jacobbi...
won’t be giving up his starting spot.
I don't think so either...
But isn’t it nice that he may have to earn it against equally as talented kids?? =)
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If we switch to a 3-4
Deas will be the starter as soon as he learns the playbook. Kid is an animal. We will rotate frequently though.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 29, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone will be learning the new defense at the same time...
He starts the first game….
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Still don't see McDaniel as the NT, but as the DT...
Who plays the middle….
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
I'm more hopeful about recruiting now that I have been at any time in the past month...
Yes, there are some great kids coming out of high school that we’re not going to get that we might have thought we were. We have really done a good job finding some talented kids that are under the radar, and the JuCo kids love Jimbo. Many of the these kids were recruited by him coming out of high school.
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"Meyer was on the sideline of the STA-Byrnes game (featuring multiple FSU prospects). Where was Bowden? I would wager that he was sleeping."
I was pissed at this also, and then I realized that this was UF’s off week.
No, It was played in Ft Lauderdale
it would be very odd for a south fl and s. carolina school to play in boston, right?
He was referring to FSU playing at BC that weekend
That is why BB couldn’t make it, not that it would of mattered since he doesn’t visit games.
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Keep dreaming
He should have been somewhere during out bye week but he wasn’t
CP7, Please do not go Pro
Not surprised in the least about Downs,although that sucks.
Ameica, Land of the free and home to the entitled.
We'd have to know we were going to be able to land a top notch S&G coach to offer Carmon.
Make sure his attitude is right and he puts the work in like Terrence Cody did. Cody was over 400lbs when Bama took him…
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WTH
is a S&G coach? Strength and Girth? Or do you mean S&C (Strength and Conditioning) coach?
S&C, I hit the wrong key, sorry bout that...
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by The K-Man on Oct 28, 2009 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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No problem...
The only reason I mention it is that I’m positive I have seen that at least 3-4 times in the last week or so.
I see Coley is hard up on some TE
I think thats great but out of the ones we are looking at what ones are possable and what ones do we realy want.
looks like FSU gave Brandon Mosley an offer 6-6/285 plays DE but could play DT,O-line, TE. Mostly going to the offense side to replace Caz
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This info is really good...
and i know it may be hard to get a ton of, but is there anyway we could hear about our status on some 2011 prospects?
Yea..
thats what i figured. Do you know anyone in the 2011 class that are big FSU leans?
Ray Drew, Tyler Hunter, Karlos Williams, Kevin Mitchell, Trey Pettis, Eric Beverly, Deion Lee
These are seen as our most talented leans at this point, some more than others.
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Any news on Storm Johnson?
With Bernard committing to ND, Do you think we add Storm Johnson alongwith Smiley to our RB class?
Still no interest in Devon Wright?
What kind of season is he having so far?
As has been said
I don’t think RB is a real need. There are plenty of guys next year that we can go after. Give me Smiley this year and call it quits. We must load up on defense, though. Every position.
Charles Fishbein thinks Green has dropped UF
and it’s UGa vs. FSU for his services. For what it’s worth.
Jeff Luc?
Any update on Jeff Luc, By when can we expect to hear from the early entry guys? Is there anyone else apart from Luc who is an early entry candidate and still considering FSU?
Just some of the JUCOs
I think Miller and Willis are a done deal.
I’ll be at the Tennessee/South Carolina game this Saturday and a number of our targets are visiting, including Jones, Mitchell, and Ken Adams. The Byrnes duo will be there too.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 28, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Luc will visit
I think that ship has sailed however. Those losses have killed us with some recruits.
ATH Kevin Grooms, from Hollywood, Florida. He goes to South Broward High School. Measurables are 5’10’’ 160 and I’d say that he runs in the low 4.4, if not 4.3. Speed, speed, speed, and even more speed. Extrememly explosive. He really came onto the football scene against McArthur High School, where he had over 200 yards of total offense and returned a punt for the game winning score. He has had something ridiculous like three straight games of 200+ total offensive yards. Grooms has that special attribute – one step, and he is at top speed. Charles Fishbein (of Elite Scouting Services) believes the kid projects best as a CB. I don’t know, as I would rather have him with the ball in his hands. He is receiving interest from FSU and Tennessee, and there are some rumors that both schools have offered him. He is open, but he does like FSU.
This will be another Big 3 vs. Ohio State battle, probably similar to Joyner’s recruitment. OSU has been recruiting this kid for a long time.
Smart after him hard to come to Bama...
We gonna have to fight to win this one…
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Hello to all. I’m a new poster, but a long time Seminole and recruiting junkie. I really like the website.
With all of these new offers, I’m really suprised Greg Dent hasn’t gotten one. We apparently reviewed a bunch of his film and sent Dawsey done to a game to scout him. It is a little puzzling.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 28, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of these new HS offers have other intentions than they seem on the face. Dent is persistent about his love for the Noles but also that he wants to play WR, which wouldnt be where he ends up here. Also it is JUCO evaluation season usually HS offers go out earlier.
365 days, until I change my ways.
I hope he gets the offer soon
I think Dent will be great on offense or defense honestly. I’d just rather have him in G&G than not.
His future is defense
Wouldn’t crack 3rd string as a WR at FSU.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 29, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you for the welcome
Great job with the website. Anyone else hearing lots of noise about Sunseri for the DC position? I just hope we get some new defensive coaches in early to save this class.
Is it just me...?
I read the small scouting report written under the video then watched the highlight video for big James Carmon and I was confused. I thought Carmon moves extremely well for a man that size. It seems like he has quite the motor. But in the report it says he doesnt have good lateral movement and can only move in straight lines. It looks like he moves well laterally
I wrote that after watching him play an entire game
we are certainly open to other opinions, and I said others think that but I just dont see it
365 days, until I change my ways.
Ohh i see..
You mean over the course of an entire game he lacked solid lateral movement? Meaning he shows glimpses at times of good later movement? That makes sense. Also one thing I noticed after watching Jeff Luc and Joyner and a big reason why I would love to see these guys playing for FSU…Swagger. On film It appears these guys have tons of swagger and play with an attitude. With that said I don’t know how these guys conduct themselves off the field or where they stand academically but that kind of swagger is what FSU needs IMO. The kind of swagger Greg Reid is playing with
No I don't see it at all, I just rewatched that highlight tape and it didn't change my opinion at all
We can agree on one point though. The more guys that are swaggertastic and gothellaswag that we can get the better. Once we start playing with that swagger from the 90s we will dominate CFB again.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Speaking of swaggerlishious, here's an update on your favorite RB...
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I'd love Nigel Carr's swagger
if he only ran his mouth after making plays. So far that hasn’t happened much.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 29, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
It hasn't. He has a lot to learn
But who’s gonna teach him this season? Lol. In all seriousness though that guy gets pumped when OTHER guys make plays. He really cares and it shows throughout the entire game. You can’t fake that.
Article with Lemonier on ESPN.
I’ve been worried that Lemonier would go to Illinois but this article rests my mind a bit.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=4605549
Still an uphill battle
especially since the three specific coaches he mentioned won’t be here next season.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 30, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
C'mon NoleThruandThru
Let me live in my glass half full moment for a bit. Like I said on the big board I’m hoping the weather in Illinois makes a difference in his decision along with my hope that Illinois keeps collapsing while we improve. Playing time seems to be a big deal with this kid and I definitely see him getting some of that at FSU. I of course have no faith in Amato and will continue to punch myself in the face any time I hear his name and recruiting mentioned in the same sentence.
Not saying we won't land him
just saying that it’s crucial that Jimbo and Coley have relationships with him as well, and the new defensive staff will have to sell him on their scheme.
As is the case with all of our top recruits, the longer Lemonier waits, the better.
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by NoleThruandThru on Oct 30, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Lemonier
why would you even consider illinois???
the women? have you seen big ten cheerleaders???
i went to the university of michigan, and the only thing worse than the weather is the chicks…. j/c, just the fact that he’s considering illinois makes me question his intelligence - ha, ha, ha!!
keep posting you guys, i’ve learned more on this site in the past two months than i have in years on the pay sites…. thanks to everyone who contributes- it’s like family- you know, like when you talk to your grandma on thanksgiving or christmas and when you get off the phone your face hurts from smiling too much…..?
sorry about the warm, gooey moments, still jacked up from house vodka at bally’s last night….
gyeah.
Corey Liuget, a former teammate at Hialeah, is at Illinois right now.
Calvin’s Smith stepdad pushes Illinois, I think.
Plus, Ron Zook can recruit.
Do we know if the coaches are talking about who the next DC might be
do the Recruits care who they are. How are we on getting some of the JRCO guys.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
What are the chances we actually land a couple of these JUCO DE's and DT's? AND...
How are we looking for Joyner, Jones, Green if the D changes are made?
Yeah, right!
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