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This is not a power poll. I don't attempt to rank teams based on how good I think they are. I only rank teams based on their resume. What have they done? Not how talented are their payers or how other polls project them to do, but what have they done?The poll is designed to be dynamic. I try to start from scratch every week.

I do attempt to reward teams for "quality losses", while punishing them for poor performances. I do not give excessive credit for stomping horrible teams. I reward quality play, win or lose, particularly against other good teams. I am not bumping team A 10 spots and docking team B 10 spots when team A beats team B by a field goal in what was essentially an equally played game.I like to reward playing well against good teams, win or lose, and punish losing to poor teams more harshly than I reward defeating poor teams. To that end, Cincinnati and Boise will probably not climb much higher in my poll for the rest of the year.

I Reward Grinders. I reward those who play difficult schedules. Teams that play a tough team every week don't get to spend extra time preparing for their tough games, and they also don't face the attrition other teams face because they are able to pull their starters in blowouts. Fewer plays for important players reduces the chance those players will get injured.

 

RankTeam
1 Alabama
2 Iowa
3 TCU
4 Florida
5 Georgia Tech
6 Cincinnati
7 Boise State
8 Texas
9 Virginia Tech
10 Southern Cal
11 Miami (Florida)
12 Oregon
13 LSU
14 Arizona
15 Penn State
16 Notre Dame
17 Pittsburgh
18 Clemson
19 Oklahoma
20 Ohio State
21 Houston
22 Oregon State
23 Central Michigan
24 Wisconsin
25 Michigan State
  • Bama has the more impressive resume than Iowa, and Iowa must start blowing out some teams if they want to get to # 1.  
  • TCU has been impressive in every contest and this week they are above Florida who has also been very impressive overall, particularly in destroying Kentucky and Tennessee.
  • Georgia Tech moves up because of FSU's win, the Jackets beat down of UVA, and their stomping of Mississippi State, a team more respectable with each passing performance.  
  • Cincinatti's win over USF is now less impressive.
  • Boise's schedule is light, but they handled Oregon, and they continue to crush everyone.
  • Texas, um, still not impressed with what they've done.
  • VTech still has a top-10 resume.
  • Southern Cal's loss to a below average Washington team hurts them here.  I think Texas, VT,and USC all have similar resumes.
  • People will start to realize that Clemson is very good, but Miami still must drop.  
  • Penn State seems to be improving.  

Comments are always welcome.  

 

ACC Blogger's Roundtable

This week's roundtable is hosted by Joe Ovies, a contributor to AM 850 The Buzz Sports Radio Blog in the North Carolina Triangle Area. ACC Roundup will be posted sometime Thursday. So what do you have for us this week Joe?

1.) Now that we're in the home-stretch of college football, we have enough material to begin campaigns for ACC coach of the year and player of the year. Who ya got and why?

Spaziani.  What a horrible off-season for Boston College.  But he has managed to only lose to significantly better teams, while winning all the toss-ups.  

2.) Would your 2009 ACC coach of the year stand a chance in the SEC battlefields of recruiting and gameday management against the likes of Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, and Lane Kiffin?

No, he lacks the flash.  But it is hard to tell, because his program isn't like any SEC program.

3.) Getting away from the breathless week-to-week win/loss reactions such as "OMGZ!1!JUAN! WE WON, BCS NEXT!" or "WTF, WE'RE DA SUX. FIRE COACH!", where is your head coach in 5 years. If no longer with your school, how does the exit go down?

With no disrespect intended, actuarial scientists say that an 80-year old won't live to see 85.  Despite his diabetes and shingles, Bowden is loaded and I'll assume he has some great doctors.  Let's hope he's enjoying his retirement, forced or not, in 5 years.

4.) Coffee is for closers only. Which means plenty of ACC teams are walking around with empty cups after failing to finish off opponents or lock up divisions. As the worst offender, who gets the steak
knives?

It's either Clemson or UNC.  Carolina blew the largest 2nd half in college football this season, 18 points, on a Thursday night.  They also lost at home to UVA.  But Clemson mismanaged their game against Miami, lost at Maryland when they had a nice lead, blew their game against TCU, and allowed some ridiculous special teams TD's.  It goes to the Clemson Tar Heels.

5.) Bob Griese wants to take you and Juan Pablo Montoya out for tacos.  Where's the best joint in town

Can I give you where it is not?  I'm stuck in Tuscaloosa for law school and there is this horrible place the locals rave about- Taco Casa.  It's trash.  They have horrible commercials and worse food.  In fact, please don't eat Mexican in Tuscaloosa.  

 

Updated Rankings!

As you know, I'm a big fan of the more advanced measures.  They take out plays like kneel-downs and end of the game heaves when a team is down 4 scores, etc.  They could pick-6's not against the defense, but against the offense.  They remove all garbage time stuff.  And most importantly, they adjust for opponent based on what everyone else has done against that opponent.  

This week, Brian of has a special blurb about Florida State.  Please check it out.  

As a refresher, last week FSU was 27th overall.  They are now 21st Opponent-adjusted_efficiency_fremeau_efficiency_index_10-28_medium
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People seem to be realizing just how good Georgia Tech is.  Their defense, now getting healthier, seems to be improving.  Is FSU the 5th best team in the ACC?  I can agree with that.  They lost at Boston College by a score back when Ponder's knee was still bum.  And I agree that GTech, VTech, Miami, and Clemson are a notch above FSU.  Is NC State really the 2nd worst ACC team?  I guess at this point they have played like that.

 

Florida State's Offense

This is the one that always interests me.  Last week, FSU had the 8th best offense in the country.  After drubbing an excellent UNC defense, they jumped to 4th:

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That's a truly elite offense.  Can you imagine how much praise they'd be getting if the 'Noles scheduled something like Penn State's non-conference slate?  Luckily, this system adjusts for opponent.   Oh yeah, NC State's offense is 26th.  Expect them to put up at least 35 on FSU's defense.  

 

Florida State's Defense

Ugh.  These guys are so horribly coached.  If I am a parent of one of these players, I am uber-pissed I sent my kid to play defense for this sorry collection of "coaches".  Thankfully, that'll change this year.  As I told everyone last week, FSU's defense did not play well against UNC.  They played worse than they usually play, and it was only UNC's offense looking like crap that even made FSU's defense appear a bit improved.  Don't buy any of the sunshine pumpers rhetoric that the defense is improving.  Last week, they were 101st.  This week, 104th!  

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Yeah, that's right.  Only 16 teams have played worse defense than FSU.  It is 25 spots behind the next worst ACC defense, DUKE!  NC State's defense?  52nd, exactly 52 spots ahead of FSU's defense.  

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“People will start to realize that Clemson is very good”

I don’t think I’ve quite realized that yet.

Also, seriously, you gotta permaban the guy who firsted the post. Who does that?

by DannyFordisGod on Oct 28, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

The defense is very strong this year and is due in part to the defensive coaching staff having vastly more experience than the offensive guys. The linebacker, Scotty Cooper, should be back this week against Coastal Carolina.

by DannyFordisGod on Oct 29, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting about FSU's 1st half v. 2nd half def. efficiency

Brian postulates that the explanation is adjustments. I’m skeptical of that claim, but I’d like to hear some thoughts about it if anyone has any.

by fsu44 on Oct 28, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Except for the UNC defensive performance (if you still want to call it that), I’d say those numbers are a little misleading because both USF and BC went into super conservative schemes in the 2nd halves of each of those games.

by ricobert1 on Oct 28, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sent this to Brian

Brian,

enjoyed today’s piece immensely. I do have something that might throw a wrench in it, however. Boston College and USF literally went into a prevent offense for the 3rd quarter and a good part of the 4th quarter against Florida State. For instance, BC called 14 run plays and only 2 passing plays. USF, realizing Ponder was limping all over the field, ran the same play for literally, the entire 2nd half, knowing FSU’s offense couldn’t step up.

Additionally, FSU’s defense is so small and fast, it makes sense that if they play pass pass pass, they could be better. That happens in the 2nd half with a lead (BYU), when you know the opposing team will pass. I did some film work showing the BC and USF “prevent offense” if you are interested.

Did you ever find out if there was a game with such polar opposites between teams? Team A with a top 10 O and outside top 100 D, and team B with 99th ranked O and top 10 D?

best,

Bud

by Bud Elliott on Oct 28, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

great article as always though. quality!

by 904nole on Oct 28, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope Los Compadres hands down… Don’t know if they still do the all you can eat on Wednesday nights, but well worth it.

by NoleRaised on Oct 28, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know people actually went to Mexican restaurants for the food

I just go for the chips and dip. In this way, there is no such thing as a bad Mexican restaurant.

by ricobert1 on Oct 28, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless

both El Jalisco and Los Compadres have 2 for 1 Margaritas, and we all know that is what’s really important.

by 904nole on Oct 29, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

No love for Taco Casa, eh

Never been to one in Alabama but we had one at a mall in Pensacola and it was great.

by l0stnumber on Oct 28, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Bama always talks up their restaurants...

I kept hearing how Dreamland was the place for spare ribs. That was a huge disappointment….

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Oct 29, 2009 5:44 AM EDT reply actions  

“We have 3 things on the menu: ribs, white bread, and a rib sandwich… which is ribs on white bread.” – Dreamland disappoints me every time as well. Just too much fat on the ribs. I will say though, their banana pudding is great.

And in Tallahassee, Peppers and El Mercadito (the unknown store on Tennessee across from West10) are the best restaurants for Mexican food. Los Compadres’ taco salad is a solid lunch option though.

by basaltrock on Oct 29, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and never order shrimp at a Mexican restaurant in Tuscaloosa. Should be obvious, but a friend of mine learned that lesson the hard way.

by basaltrock on Oct 29, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno man, I went to the dreamland in Atlanta and it was really good.

by mhauer on Oct 29, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dreamland Atlanta > Dreamland Bama, but all BBQ restaurants want to be Melear's in Fayetteville...

"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath

by NaGaNole on Oct 29, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

“With no disrespect intended, actuarial scientists say that an 80-year old won’t live to see 80.” I’m not really understanding that. An 80 year old won’t live to see their 80th birthday? If we are to define all 80 year olds as people who are 80 years old, then by that definition an 80 year old has seen their 80th birthday.

And besides, survival begets survival so as you age, your expected age of dying increases. If Bobby lived in Georgia, he could expect to live another 7 years at exact age 80. I don’t have the life tables for Florida, sorry, but it would be about the same if not higher in florida because of the larger older population.

by mhauer on Oct 29, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

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