Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets @ Florida State Seminoles Preview
by DA-2 on Oct 9, 2009 6:18 PM EDT
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The preview will be much shorter this week because I'm on the road, and the Bowden coverage was the main coverage of the week. Last year Georgia Tech gashed the Noles for 31 pts and 400 yards in 3 Quarters. That's 8 yards/snap. The Noles never stopped Georgia Tech while their Quarterback was in the game. But then Florida State got two major breaks. First, Georgia Tech's quarterback sprained his ankle on a non-contact play. Second, Zebrie Sanders got away with a hold that would've made Hulk Hogan jealous. The refs didn't call it, Florida State avoided a safety and went on to score. Georgia Tech's backup quarterback produced two ugly turnovers which helped FSU get back in the ballgame. Then GT got their break as Marcus Simms' fumble on the go ahead score. The point here is that if you think FSU was unlucky, you're not being objective. Both teams had good and bad luck throughout the game.
This year Tech's offense is still good. While Clemson and Miami severely limited Tech's offense, Florida State does not have the personnel to copy their gameplan. In fact, I would say that Florida State does not have a single Defensive Line starter that could start for the Canes or Tigers. FSU has planned for most of this offseason to stop this attack, and should better prepared this time around. It would be nice if the Noles CB Patrick Robinson would play as he has been hampered by an ankle injury while GT's WR D Thomas is excellent. Georgia Tech will get their yards and some points, however, their recent revelation that their coach doesn't trust their quarterback to make reads but rather calls predetermined run plays could help the Noles in this game of rock, paper, scissors. I dont like the matchup of the Noles man-to-man defense against this attack, but FSU does not run a good zone defense so man-to-man will still be played. I expect GT to get 30 pts and 455 yards on 61 plays. I also expect them to yield two turnovers.
While Georgia Tech's offense is still very good, their defense has taken a large step back this year. They lost three of four starting defensive lineman, all to the NFL. A starting safety, a starting linebacker, a starting defensive end as well as his backup will all be out because of injury. Tech however, has the best player on the field on either team in #91 DE Derrick Morgan. He lines up across from Zebrie Sanders which means that Florida State will give Sanders a ton of help in pass protection. Their secondary does feature an All-Conference Safety and two good Corners all of which are vulnerable to giving up the big pass play because of their agressiveness. I feel that the run game is close to being corrected, as the errors I saw on film are minor and not fatal. In the red zone where Florida State has struggled recently, I expect Florida State to use more spread sets because their young TEs and FBs are simply not suited for a goalline jumbo package at this point in their careers. I see FSU scoring 35 pts and gaining 440 yards on 70 plays with no turnovers. I also expect a big special teams play in the return game as Georgia Tech has been vulnerable to that this year.
35 - 30 Noles. I think people are overestimating the impact of this week's media attention on the coaching dysfunction. This team is use to seeing coaches fighting, and the turmoil that comes with that. They have been affected in every game this year, however, I see no reason why this week's turmoil will be worse than previous weeks.
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I can't believe he picked us to win this game
WOW.
Everything else about this site is spot on and brutally honest, but has FSUn actually predicted us to win every game this year? LOL
Fsu has been favored in 4 of 5. Its not as if I am calling for unrealistic upsets. In fact, I think I have done an excellent job.
I called BYU when nobody else did. Basically wrote the script. Look at k-man’s recap, he compred it to spoiling the end of the 6th sense.
Against usf, I wanted to call for the loss. But I was talked out of it by some very knowledgeable football people. 2TD favorite at home off the BYU game against a freshman QB? Come on Fsun, they said. Yet go back nd read that. I said I didn’t like the matchup at all, that they wouldn’t miss Grothe, etc. I even posted a video of people saying they hd a bad feeling from some movies. And I predicted a 4 point win. Others predicted huge blowout wins.
I also wrote 2 articles saying fsu would come out flatter than flat against jstate. Didn’t anticipate the late arriving downpour.
I put a lot of work into these. I don’t see anyone doing a better job. I’ve called for fsu to lose before. I will again. These aren’t guarantees. They represent the most likely outcome in my mind. Georgia tech wins this game 40 of 100 times. Thos is the best approximation of what will happen in my mind. No koolaid. I’ve bet against fsu successfully this season and last.
Put your money where your mouth is. Paypal, however much you want. Gimme fsu and you take tech. Whatever amount makes you sweat. Paypal. This isn’t a koolaid pick. fpeople come here for honest opinions. I try to give them the best I can and I am in the 2% of winning gamblers because I don’t overreact to emotional BS in the media.
When I start calling for upset after upset, then asl for my head to be checked.
by Bud Elliott on Oct 9, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't let them get to you Bud
I called the win over BYU also. Of course I have called an FSU win for every game that is why I am homer. I will call another one tomorrow. It just might be the controversy will give hope to the team that change is coming. That could fire them up.
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I think you do an excellent job with these previews as well, so excellent that TN is really the only FSU site I read, I just think your final score predictions are a little optimistic.
It’s probably good that you aren’t getting caught up in the negativity and are taking each game one at a time, but at the same time I don’t think I’m out of line pointing out that you’ve predicted a 2-3 team to be 5-0.
Um... FSU
Has been favored in all but BYU and I predicted a margin smaller than the line 3 times. I don’t think you get it. Maybe I should throw in a percentage that I think the team will win.
by Bud Elliott on Oct 10, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Who cares about the line??? FSU blows games they should win, we all know that, so IMO the line is not very significant.
The line is incredibly significant
It determines favorite/ upset.
Are you gonna take Tech?
by Bud Elliott on Oct 10, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t bet on games but I do think Georgia Tech wins. I’m not trying to get into an argument with you over this game. I’m expressing surprise that someone who knows their stuff so well has failed to predict any of our losses this year.
True, you have not been predicting us to win in fantastic upsets, but we’re a chronically inconsistent team, suffering through a huge amount of coaching turmoil. and playing one of the toughest schedules in the country. To me that sounds like a team that is going to lose one of their first 6 games.
Well have to wait to see who wins...
…but the line has nothing to do with the teams and everything to do with how the betting public thinks the game will go.
The goal of the line is to get betting even both ways so that the house wins no matter which team wins.
This is why I personally believe gambling on games or even "calling" games is a bit silly
You can have the most in-depth research & analysis (which TN does) and still come out a loser because of some unforeseen act-of-God, a star stubs his toe, or a coach gives the half-time speech of his life. JMHO.
What's laughable is that fans are now blaming TN for not calling FSU's losses.
Did you lose some money on games or something there chief?
LOL Thankfully not. I’m not trying to throw around blame. Maybe I was too harsh because I seem to have bothered some people. My apologies.
The point I was trying to make was that these previews are always excellent, top notch, best analysis I read of FSU ANYWHERE, but the final score predictions seem to be off the mark. We’re 2-3, yet predicted to be 5-0. That strikes me as a little out of whack.
Again, my apologies if that is no-no.
I don't think it's too harsh, but FSUn might have taken it the wrong way
BTW I think FSU will probably lose this game too. I’ve lost all faith in the defense and the offense has been having some issues of its own.
He is def as biased a Homer I have ever seen...
Never thinking through his arguments, and actually..I think I heard him say in the beginning of this year we were gonna win the natl championship…hahah crazy guy.
FSUn has been drinking the kool-aid and then some,
but I agree
FSU 41 – GT 28
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I'll have some of what he's having.
’Noles 38-27 Jackets
by Drew J Jones on Oct 9, 2009 9:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I am afraid to even pick what FSU will do anymore
Let it be said Ponder leads the ACC in passing with 1423 yards in five games, has a 139.1 rating, 66.3 completion rate and FSU is leads the ACC in total offense. They might pull it out but the receivers could certainly help if they hang onto the ball and don’t cough it up.
The game will hinge on whether Mickey can slow up Georgia Tech. Tech won’t be able to stop FSU I don’t think.
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TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
Ponder is a bad@$$
If we had any defense whatsoever, and a couple more breaks went our way, Ponder would be in Heisman conversations.
We will win
If only because CP7 and the offense put up video game #s against GT’s defense
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
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p-rob is on schedule to play right?
and i saw mangum is still banged up? gooood, hopefully moody or harley starts in that spot.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
yea the one play vs BC where jajuan hawked down montell harris
was amazing to see, i was so tired of seeing mangum running after players as if he was running in wet cement.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
If you throw in SWFLNoles report that Harley is sick, which I don't know if that makes him questionable or probable, here is the rest of the official injury report.
OUT
FB Daniel Gard (knee)
OT Antwane Greenlee (knee)
LB Aaron Gresham (knee)
OT John Prior (knee)
LB Vince Williams (back)
QUESTIONABLE
DT Justin Mincey (knee)
CB Patrick Robinson (ankle)
PROBABLE
ROV Korey Mangum (shoulder)
I heard somewhere that Nick Moody will be starting, and that PRob was out, but don’t quote me.
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p-rob out would be huge =[[[
but i dont have a problem with moody at rover if harley is sick, shit i wouldnt have a problem with jacobbi at rover as long as magnum isnt in there (i kiddd i kid…i think? 0_o)
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
If there was a game that PRob had to miss, I think this is the best one.
They do have one good receiver, but their passing game is weak to say the least, so he should rest his ankle and get it ready for the rest of the schedule instead of pushing himself on a run oriented team. Of course he will be missed, since he is one of the top 3 players on D, but it is the best time for him to be out.
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I disagree.
Last year we were able to put PRob on Thomas and forget about it. We still had problems defending 10 on 10.
I don’t know that we have another corner that can shut down Bay Bay without help. That means we’re playing 9 on 10.
Listen pal, if you ACTUALLY READ MY POST, you will understand what I am trying to say.
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OK, now that I lightened the mood, and everyone knows I am a$$hole,
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PRob will always be missed, but what I mean is that out of all the remaining games,
if he does have to miss a game, I prefer he miss this one because of % of runs versus the % of pass we SHOULD face tonight.
But like I said previously, don’t be surprised if our D makes Tech’s running QB the next Heisman contender after tonight, we have a way of making opposing teams QB’s look like 1st round picks.
All I meant if PRob HAS to miss one, tonight is the better than later.
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I wonder who they put on Thomas if PRob is a no go. Greg Reid? or
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BTW, the MAN is manipulating us and causing infighting within our ranks. We are testy and turning on each other, The MAN is trying to put us down like a sick dog (ironic?)
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52 -18 FSU
Because BB sorry friend/coaches really have the national media scrutinizing them now..They will actually decline taking 20 hours naps/7 days a week with BB & go to work on the players..The players will respond to bring back some FSU excitement & cause those who chose the blackoutoption to be boo’ed…
I can live with that MDFSUFAN
It might be we see a total team effort. Then again it might be more of the same who knows. I will bet the offense will be fired anyway.
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TomahawkNation
Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
If it happens
it won’t be because of Bowden. It’ll be because the BS the kids have been putting up with has been brought to light and Jimbo and company (the good company) will have these kids motivated.
Ot, they’ll come out like they did against USF and we’ll suck. I’d like to see a MIami effort type game from the offense and BYU type game from the defense. Is that too much to ask??
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Oct 10, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Uncensored you know I love you (not like that)
but we’d be 5-0 right now if your picks worked out. The offense would have to be better than last year’s Oklahoma in order to make up for the s***show that is the FSU defense.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
The fans are generating some heat
I have to believe Tn is part of it also. The dead side of the coaching staff knows the spotlight is on them at this point.
Playstation All American, right again!
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Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
Here is hoping for the best
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by DocHoliday2 on Oct 9, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Isn't it 'FSUncensored'
and not…(FSUncesored’s thoughts and words spoken through the phone.)
FSU is unpredictable
we only beat BYU b/c we didnt’ turn the ball over. our D can’t stop any O—esp. GTech’s. whoever turns the ball over less (esp. on the 1 yard line), wins. We’re terrible!
by TLHWG on Oct 9, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not an aberration.
Just taking advantage of opportunities when they come. We had the opportunity when Greg Reid dropped that pick against BC. The offense put points up. If he makes that catch, they probably win it. Without the bogus pass interference call, BC also would’ve had to punt, and who knows where that goes? No aberration. Just a big screw-up from GR and a total giveaway by the refs.
USF — again, without the fumbles (and I’ve seen few games with so many screw-ups), we probably would’ve been able to put it in the endzone. If anything, that game looks like an aberration. That was the only game where the offense was a failure, as far as I’m concerned. I don’t think many are betting on that to be the case tonight.
Generally, our offense can put the points on the board to win. It’s mostly a question of whether the D takes advantage when those rare opportunities come along. We all know they can’t stop everybody, but they need to make sure they’re on target when the opponent beats himself.
by Drew J Jones on Oct 10, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
35-17 GT
I’m not as confident in our O right now. I feel like they will feel the pressure of “having to score” for us to win. I think that that may cause us to try to “force the issue” which (up to now) we haven’t done on O.
Also, I do expect GT to score a lot of points. I do think that their O can be contained if you eliminate the big play. I know a lot of people say that they will just grind you out if you take away the big play. However, I haven’t seen that to be true. What I’ve seen is that GT will end up shooting themselves in the foot if you force them to medothically work their way down the field with a dumb penalty or 2 that will put them in a spot that they are not well equiped to handle (no one is, but the nature of their O hurts their chances even more).
That being said, at no point this year has our D taken away the big play, so I can’t just say we will this week and expect it to be so.
I see GT hitting us with a few big plays that will result in either good opportunities to score after the play or scores directly.
I haven’t seen enough discipline in our DEs to expect them to be able to handle the option looks that they will see all day as it seems like they end up chasing rather than containing on virtually every option look they’ve seen this year.
I’m hoping to be wrong (again) this week, but I’m not sure our D is equiped to play disciplined, assignment football.
GT 17, 18, 28?
They’re going to score at will against us…. it’ll be just like last year except their offense is better and our defense is worse.
Yeah Hopkins has a strong leg
He is also wildly inconsistent. It will probably get better down the road with practice. Right now you never know what he will do.
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Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
It's a win-win
Even if we lose, it will put more heat on Bowden, so in that regard it’s still a win.
Did anyone else see that pathetic interview on sportscenter with Bowden? He thinks we can turn it around and should wait for the remainder of the year before criticizing him. LOL. What a joke.
When I start sucking at my job I will find something else to do and won't keep ruining peoples' lives by sucking at my job.
lol i saw it
was hard not to laugh hearing his BS
Thats why we need to lose, because some people out there believe him.
"I'm falling apart, I'm barely breathing, With a broken heart thats still beating, In the pain is the healing, in Your Name I find meaning, So I'm holdin' on.. holdin' on to you."
by FSUvaFan on Oct 10, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate to REC this but youre 100 right
I think we need to lose out and take the pain it will be more than worth it in 2-3 yrs when we can actually make a run at something meaningful.
I still cant root against us but I know it will be better for the team in the long run.
Us making some kind of miracle turnaround would litterally be the worst possible thing that could happen to this program.
If you build it, they will come.
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by stevegrizzle on Oct 10, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Never
Root for the Noles to lose, it’s pathetic. The players deserve better. I want Bobby to retire as much as the next guy, but I want the team to win out more. Either way Bobby is gone by the end of next season, wouldn’t you rather win on the way there?
by crmnole on Oct 10, 2009 9:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can you read?
It is clearly written that I cant root against us.
Bobby is not necessarily gone after this season, if you think he’s doing 8 million interviews and hiring pr firms just so he can walk quietly into the night then youre delusional.
The fact is we need lose if we want to have a functional program next year. It sucks I know. Thats the cold hard truth though man. Im sorry it has come to this but Bobby will be back next year and that will be another throw away year if we make a bowl this year.
If you build it, they will come.
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by stevegrizzle on Oct 10, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Noles need to win.
I disagree, was last year a throw away year in Ponder’s development? Wouldn’t you rather them go on a run and end the season semi-respectable with something to build on for next year.? If Bobby comes back next year, with Jimbo in charge per a new contract and Jimbo having hired the defensive staff, I don’t think it would be the end of the world, particularly if everybody (recruits) know next year is Bobby’s last. Winning some games this year would also help recruiting.
How do you know that either way Bobby is gone by the end of next season?
This situation is pathetic, but because people are willing to blindly think BB is the problem only losses lights a fire under peoples butts.
"I'm falling apart, I'm barely breathing, With a broken heart thats still beating, In the pain is the healing, in Your Name I find meaning, So I'm holdin' on.. holdin' on to you."
Whoops.
**because people are willing to blindly follow BB and ignore reality, losing is the only thing that lights a fire under people’s butts.
"I'm falling apart, I'm barely breathing, With a broken heart thats still beating, In the pain is the healing, in Your Name I find meaning, So I'm holdin' on.. holdin' on to you."
I couldn't help but notice how selfish he sounded
He kept talking about what’s best for him and how he has nothing to lose by staying until he wants to stop coaching. The truth is FSU has everything to lose form his staying until an undetermined date: it ties our hands in regards to the preparations we make for the program after Bobby. It was grossly obvious how much he’s into himself just by watching the interview. There was no mention of the program and I lost count of how many times he said “I”.
I'm not
picking this week. I have no idea which FSU team is going to show up, the one that played Miami and Byu, or the one that played J. St., USF, and BC. I’m just hoping for the best and expecting the worse!!!
GO NOLES!!
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Oct 10, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions
I hope I'm wrong.
But I think GT is going to kill us in this one. Honestly, how can we even begin to think our defense will stop these guys? Seriously. Ask yourself that question. There is no good feeling about it.
I agree that FSU will come out pumped for this game. They will not be mellow. Yet, they will be vulnerable. If GT gets an early lead, we just might see a complete blow out. It might be mental breakdown stage for the fans, coaches and players.
Again, I hope I’m wrong and maybe the Noles will surprise but I just don’t get how any of you can realistically take FSU in this game. It just doesn’t make sense. We are guilty until proven innocent here folks.
Expect the worst but hope for the best. God help us.
Bobby's pregame speech is going to have our players so fired up they are going to come out and totally dominate because of the motivation he will instill in them.
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And Chuck is going to BUY ALL THE Linebackers NEW SHOES
If you build it, they will come.
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by stevegrizzle on Oct 10, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Bud...Do we want the ball first again?
I assume the strategy is to get ahead early, let them get their yards and then look to capitalize on their turnovers.
I'm not Bud and you didn't ask me, so I will tell you, IMO yes every game from now on. Try to score first every game, score often, and hope for a few defensive stops at some point during the game.
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I said what I think we should do, what we will actually do we won't know until 8 PM. Maybe Bud knows what we will actually do tonight.
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remember the good old days when there we like 20 people on this blog
and Bud replied to my questions in like 5 minutes.
Big plans for the game tonight?
Tom Rinaldi can can totally go to hell.
He totally has been wearing the blue shirt and orange tie all week too; what a “journalist.”
If Ponder is healthy (which I have heard nothing of how his knee is)and can run well we may have a chance to keep up with them if ponder does not run I think we will loose
With CP runs FSU 34 GT 31
W/O CP runs FSU 24 GT 34
VA Tech
is showing what a team does to mediocre teams like Boston college when you have a pass rush and a running game. They are making Shinskie look like below average QB that he is instead of a Heisman contender like we made him (and every QB we play) look. I am glad we don’t play them this season.
Now about GT, I think we can win this game but it will take a really good offensive performance. I have no faith at all whatsoever that our D will slow down GT. If we can pull it out I am thinking 38-35.
Of course when I look back at my picks for this season so far I just look like another FSU homer in denial about how bad our team is and we could lose this game by several TDs, I give up.
Go noles.
"No, like I said, Woo peed on my rug" - The Dude
VT is up 31-0 on BC.
I will be rooting for us but I think Tech wins 42-34. Pre season I had us winning this game in a close one but things have changed just a bit. Hope I am wrong.
Halftime. wow.
BC has zero first downs, zero completions, and 3 total yards of offense.
That makes us look really bad.
Surfa, I just said the exact same thing about opposing QB's as you did, up above. HA.
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VT's defense shows what good coaching can do for players. I fantasize about Bud Foster leading our defensive talent.
"I'm falling apart, I'm barely breathing, With a broken heart thats still beating, In the pain is the healing, in Your Name I find meaning, So I'm holdin' on.. holdin' on to you."
Game time snack
I have slipped my tickets between 2 slices of bread. A little snack while watching tonights game on TV. to much drama for me to go. would not be able to enjoy myself. So im going to enjoy a ticket sandwich and wash it down with a few beers and wait to see what future BB creates for next season.
Hopefully next year there will be “Nothing in it for him!”
Come on out, man.
Seriously, throw on a black shirt and have a good time tonight. I’m at my mother-in-law’s, getting my last TN fix before we head out, and I’ll be honest, yeah, I’ve been more excited about a game before (atrocious understatement). But there’s gonna be a footbal game at Doak tonight, and that only happens roughly six times a year.
Thats awesome... one day, one day I will be down there.
"I'm falling apart, I'm barely breathing, With a broken heart thats still beating, In the pain is the healing, in Your Name I find meaning, So I'm holdin' on.. holdin' on to you."
I've been wrong the past two weeks, so I'll go for three in a row
Ga. Tech 38, FSU 27
Didn’t like this game before the season, like it even less now.
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