In Their Own Words: Florida State Football Talks Win Over Wake
TV Note: Florida State plays Maryland this weekend. It will be a Noon game and shown on Raycom.
After the big win and RsFr. QB E.J. Manuel got his first big win, Fisher was very pleased with the whole performance. He said it was about as good as he could have hoped for. Everyone did the job that they were asked. He reluctantly complimented TY Jones, but then managed to insinuate that he was still pissed at Jones for not running the 3rd and 1 play correctly. Honestly, any back could have made the two nice runs Jones made. The offensive line blew those holes wide open. Then it was back to his usual coach-speak, talking about how the team all played within themselves and only controlled what they can control. He pointed out that the 'Noles had only 3 upperclassmen on offense. 1 Senior, 2 Juniors, 7 Sophomores, and 1 Freshman. And that's encouraging. (This says a lot about his ability to evaluate and develop talent and coach). Says Manuel has great instincts. Seems to be more nervous in drills than he is in a game. Fisher says he can coach 80% but there's a 20% feel aspect that hes to come from somewhere else and EJ has it. Fisher said he got on him a few times to see how he responded and thought he responded well. Of the 20 balls he threw, 3 were dropped. He completed 15. On the play-action, he does it very well. He's a natural, he's a very long guy, long arms and big hands, like Manning, and he extends the ball and it's a great natural fake. He said some other stuff as well, but that's all my buddy could remember.
As for Manuel himself, Andrew Carter caught up with him:
How were you able to stay so calm in the game?
Our practices are so high wire and Coach Fisher puts so much pressure on us in practice to perform, the game is really easy. It becomes second nature. Today was really a glorified practice.
Were you nervous?
When you're warming up I think everybody's nervous. They'd be lying if they said they weren't. The o-line they took care of me, the running backs did a good job, and the receivers did their job and the tight ends, and the defense took a lot of pressure off us.
Was there anything different about the offense with you starting?
The nakeds (bootlegs). I'm pretty good with my feet. I felt that's what Christian would have done, too. We saw it was open so we had to execute. We're a machine. That one piece got hurt but we're going to try to mend that up and keep moving as an offense
The rest is at that link.
Carter also caught up with injured quarterback Christian Ponder:
How was he able to stay so poised?
He has such high expectations for himself. We go out in practice and he prepares himself really well. That's the biggest thing. He knew what he was going to do, the preparation helped with his confidence.
His first pass was dropped, too (by Beau Reliford).
I know. That would have been a big one. If I were him I'd go slap Beau right there.
And Corey Clark has a nice article about getting Wake off FSU's back.
"I knew I could do it," Manuel said. "It's not even about me, though. I feel like the offense really helped me out and took a lot of pressure off of me. I didn't feel any pressure. The O-line protected me very well today."
"I thought their (offensive) line played really, really well," Wake Forest coach Jim Grobe said. "They just did a nice job. They had a good game plan and their kids executed it. I was very impressed."
Also, please keep Democrat writer Steve Ellis in your prayers. Steve suffered a heart attack and is still in the hospital. He's covered the 'Noles for years and I met him this year during media day. He's a nice guy and I certainly have him in my prayers.
Inside, check out the animated drive chart and some other articles!
Here's a nice writeup from member PBD:
Green. It was very interesting to watch our coaches, especially on defense. It seems pretty clear to me that CTC is in charge of the defense. Mickey spent a lot of time watching the offense play while CTC talked to the defense. Mickey also played a more hands off role when the defense was on the field. He got on them a couple of times, but overall didn't seem to be involved in the overall execution of the game. He seemed to be more like a position coach than DC. Offensively, it's the Trickett and Jimbo show. If any of the other coaches are doing any coaching during the game, I didn't see it.
Okay, I have to go back to the defense. I could make a list of the things that they don't do at all, or that they had a major fail at during the game, but the thing that comes to mind first and foremost is that they don't make good decisions. I honsetly don't know if this is on the coaches or the players, but we many mistakes on defense. We had guys over-running their zone when we were in zone coverage. For example, Skinner rolled out and we rolle the zone to the side of the field, and rolled right out of bounds rather than tracking with the receivers in the zones...it was sad. We had guys making terrible decisions on getting to the ball carrier, almost like to avoid them. Mangum was exceptional at this...did it multiple times, including on the 20-ish yard TD run (far endzone, couldn't see where the ball was very well). Looked like the LB was being blocked and couldn't shed the block, and Mangum cut inside when Adams cut it outside. Almost looked like a dodge to me.
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I hope..
Trickett stays with us for a while.. I’m sure he’ll have OC, HC offers elsewhere eventually!
Blame it on inexperience, nice try Bobby
Bowden was asked if he equated the 2009 year to the 1986 season — in which a talented but inexperienced FSU team went 7-4-1. The next year, 1987, Florida State went 11-1 and started a 14-year run that is considered a modern standard for consistent success.
So with so many promising players slated to return in 2010, does Bowden think it could be a 1987-type season? “I would give anything that it was,” he said. "The characteristics are very much like it … I’m going to always look at it as the glass is half full. So when I look at it, I’m going to say yes.
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is one way tis kinda true.
If we get a good DC that comes in and get the Def from 103 in the nation to about 50-60 we could very well go 10-2 or 11-1. Its not like we dont have the talent. Big thing is to keep that talent coming.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Agreed
But inexperience is not what has plagued us this season.
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but get a coach in there that can teach these guys what to do and where to be
that will turn this around. I would love to get a DC that can recruit just as well as coley and JF but if we get one that sucks but can turn our Def around then so be it. We can always get Pos Coaches that can recruit. Right now we need a DC that can coach hes butt off. Someone that can turn the raw talent we have to domanece on the field.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
thanks FSUncensored
lots of good links to click through this morning. Personally I was really impressed with Manuel and Fisher’s play calling. Only bad thing on the offensive side of the ball was Hudson’s injury. The defense again was nail biting when they were on the field, but by know I am used to it. And last but not least I hope Steve Ellis gets better. The guy is a solid writer.
Amazing what good coaching will do.
Teaching the finer points of technique and concepts, rigorous preparation and disciplne.
And good opposing coaches like Grobe can see it and appreciate it for what it is, because that’s how they succeed too.
Man, I’ve long envied other teams for that. I’m excited we’ve finally got some of it.
That is one thing about teams like WF and BYU
They have respect for the teams they play. Other teams like Maimi and UF I dont know if its because of the rivery or what not there is no respect with them or there fans. Miami is changing for the most part but they will always be Miami. there are some coaches out there that will give another team and players there props. and mean it. Others say it but you can tell they dont give 2 S@#ts.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Just wondering out loud if Bobby could possibly have been involved in Steve Ellis suffering a heart attack as revenge?
Seriously though, I wish the best for Steve. He was the first one with any balls in the mainstream media, other than FSUn of course, to acknowledge publicly what many of us have known for a long time.
FSUn, have you heard any rumors of Fisher having narrowed down the DC field to Smart and Sunseri? Unsubstantiated rumors are that Smart wants to stay at Bama and continue to be Saban’s puppet, while Sunseri is looking better and better for FSU every day. Any thoughts you care to share?
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watching the drive summery its funny because we look like we did so great on DEf
But we all know the truth. The Def should get some credit though. they made some very big plays at the right time to help out the offences. Most might think that they suck and they do but, as bad as they are what they did this game is what we have needed all season. A few key stops and/or turnovers. We are not going to score on every drive but we should score on most. I realy think The Def needs to focus on stopping the run. Make teams beat us in the air. Sounds crazy but If we put 8 in the box like everyone though WF would agenst us we will make teams throw. Yes they will prob sucseed most of the times but there are a few teams that will try to stick to the running game. 1st and 2nd down we need to stop the run. let them pass and get it that way. I will bet that sooner or later we will get a pick. If we stack the box on 1 and 2nd downs we can get them in 3rd and long where we play the odds game and I think we can win that 50% or more of the time.
this will only work agenst some teams I know, But Maryland is one of these teams i think
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Damn, hate to hear that about Ellis.
Hope for a full and speedy recovery.
Unfortunately it seems we are going to get at least one more year of the Bowden...
nonsense. Just hope it will be merely as a puppet and that Jimbo has all the power of the Head Coach. Also Bobby needs to come out and declare it to be his final year so recruits know whats going on, and if he messes around a bit longer we will loose Jimbo Fisher as well as Rick Tricket to someone else willing to give JB full control right away as well as the title he deserves of head coach and not this coach in waiting bull crap. Plus somewhere else he wont have to deal with all the surrounding off the field crap you have to deal with in Tallahassee.
A setup where Jimbo has total control and Bobby just has the title of head coach is WRONG. What if the team won a title next year? It would be credited to Bobby even though he did nothing. That’s WRONG. If I were Jimbo I would throw the title game so Bobby wouldn’t get credit. It’s BS. (Note: I don’t actually think the team will win a title next year. Just demonstrating that such an arrangement is s a bad idea.)
Throw the game?
Even if BB gets the credit for the win so will Jimbo, and besides no matter how wrong it is to who ever would think that., all the real fans will know the truth. I can see BB now taking all the credit and Jimbo just sitting back and smirking. Jimbo knows his day in the sun is coming, and I am sure he would never throw a game out of spite or malice. Now BB on the other hand.. track record and all.. guess he would do what ever would be best for him.
by Renegade_NOL3 on Nov 16, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
You’re right. Just like Mark Richt is always credited by the media for those titles at FSU… I always see when ESPN throws up that graphic of the all time best coaches.. it’s written Bobby/Mark Richt for 1999 and 1993 titles. The record books show Mark Richt with two titles already from FSU.
No really though, you’re right, he won’t throw game. He won’t have to. FSU will never make it that far. Don’t even try to tell me Jimbo wouldn’t be more motivated and wouldn’t do a better job if he were the head coach in title and didn’t have Bobby hovering around.
Andrews said it was a team game. Everyone pitched in.
says they won 1st down and aoccomplished the goal
3rd and long did not win- but did we force more?
How many yards did they make after contact? few longballs. (played a lot of cover-2)
4th down not good, but honestly, those are 4th and short’s
happy he didn’t have to face skinner again and they didn’t win 4 in a row
when they pull, it creates a new gap, you have to maintain gap integrity and re-adjust your leverage.
mickey said they are only doing the ceremony stuff because they were asked.
when you’re a committed football coach, sometimes you have to do things you don’t wanna do, even when your priorities should be elsewhere, like if your family needs you.
Greg reid has come along and been rewarded with more PT
Mickey really looks better today, seems happy.
Wouldn't he benefit more in the long run if he had the surgery now?
QB Christian Ponder (shoulder) said after the game there is a chance he could avoid surgery and heal the shoulder separation on his own. Surgery has been scheduled just in case.
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Sometimes it is best to let the body heal its self and some times surgery is necessary. It just depends on the individual. Sounds like they are playing it by ear and just seeing how CP7’s body responds before they use surgery as a last resort. As I understand it, sometimes there may be side effects with surgery like a decrease in range of motion, or a % chance for other complications that may not be encountered with natural healing and rehab… Just my guess..
by Renegade_NOL3 on Nov 16, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Given the..
He most likely is waiting for a couple reasons, Thanksgiving coming up next week and letting the swelling and inflammation go down prior to surgery.
I am probably wrong, and I guess this is a question for TrueCubbie, but I don't think it is a question of whether he will have surgery or not. If I am correct, he will need surgery.
I don’t know if this is the case, but sometimes they wait because of swelling. Also his class schedule may be a issue or a personal preference (holiday’s?). But from what I’ve heard, surgery is the only option for this grade of separation.
TC?
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dumb question
What does CTC stand for…understand it is our favorite LB coach’s nickname.
by Futurenolecoach on Nov 16, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions
I told my dad I think it should stand for Certified team Cancer
by Futurenolecoach on Nov 17, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions

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