Florida State Basketball Wins Season Opener in Impressive Fashion Over Jacksonville
by TrueCubbie on Nov 16, 2009 10:36 PM EST
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After a rocky few minutes to start the game, in which many jump shots went long, the Seminoles settled down and cruised to an 87-61 victory over the Jacksonville Dolphins at the Tucker Center tonight.
Solomon Alabi led the Seminoles with 17 points and 8 rebounds in only 22 minutes of play. As a team, the Seminoles shot 59% from the floor, but an abysmal 58% from the free throw line. The Seminoles looked like a completely different team from the one that took the floor a year ago. The offense flowed and the big men were comfortable passing the ball in and out of the post. The guards ran the floor well and took control of this game. Alabi, Gibson, Reid and Singleton controlled the boards as the Seminoles out rebounded Jacksonville 42 to 22, with an Oreb % of 35%.
| Offense | Defense | |||||||||||||
| Date | Opponent | Result | Site | Pace | Eff. | eFG% | TO% | OR% | FTR | Eff. | eFG% | TO% | OR% | FTR |
| Mon Nov 16 | Jacksonville (sked) | W, 87-61 | H | 74 | 118.2 | 67.3 | 25.8 | 46.1 | 55.8 | 82.9 | 35.8 | 20.4 | 28.6 | 40.0 |
This was an outstanding offensive performance for the Seminoles to start the season. Their ORtg was an impressive 121. They only went over 120 once last year. However, the Seminoles turned the ball over on 26% of their possessions, but only had 8 turnovers in the second half, many of which came on ill-advised alley oops.
All in all the Seminoles should be proud of this start. Alabi had a great game. Snaer looked polished in his debut. The Seminoles dominated in the paint and the guards played a great game against Ben Smith. He put up 30 points on Georgia Tech last year.
There is still a lot of work to do, but this is an encouraging start.
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Fans did a pretty good job of showing up.
Being a Monday night I expected a lot less people. There were more people at this game than some acc games last year.
by marlins44 on Nov 16, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
6400
Tickets accounted for….And I was one of them…Luke looked slow at times but then he had two of the best passes of the night. The between the legs bounce pass to a Snaer dunk was phenomenal and he had one equally as fantastic to Gibson late in the game.
"Reporter: What will you tell the team at halftime Bobby?
Bobby: I'll tell 'em what I always tell 'em when were winning. Boys if they don't score we'll win this game"
by fsugrizz on Nov 16, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
because he is slow
but i still love the kid
by DixieNole on Nov 16, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
those are colored chair backs....
not fans.
by DixieNole on Nov 16, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For Jacksonville that was an impressive crowd
When we first got there I thought it would be the usual, non-big game crowd, but by 5 mins into the game the place was pretty full.
The part that really bothers me though is the number of empty seats closer to the court. If the first 30 rows of a game are not filled by 5 mins in, they should let fans come down to fill them. We need fans right there on top of our opponents to let them know this is a home game for FSU and not a neutral site game like it feels now with some smaller crowds.
I will be curious to watch through this season if the fans have any more passion this year also. I believe they must give free tickets to the game to all fans who refuse to stand and cheer at the football games. “Oh sir, you refuse to cheer your team on an important 4th and goal line stand and bitch at everyone who is standing…..well here you are sir, courtside seats for the entire basketball season…you’ve earned them”
by diablonole on Nov 17, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FSUs size should dominate all the lower level teams
There is really no excuse for any other result…. of course they did only win by a bucket last year.
The biggest thing I took away was the combo of Snaer and Dulkys. If they can combo in the 25-30 range consistently, FSU will win a lot of games. Snaer is definitely a pure scorer, but at first glance he appears to need room and rhythm for accuracy (will come harder in conference play). And Dulkys just improves game by game.
The predator needs to teach Alabi some aggression.
If he wants more minutes (which FSU needs), someone needs to teach Gibson to pass the damn ball.
Singleton continues to frustrate me.
Kitchen looks very comfortable at the point, but still seems a bit bull-headed in the lane.
KJ needs to give up the basketball duties. Immediately.
Those are my initial thoughts… you know, after game 1.
by DixieNole on Nov 16, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
just in...
like anyone reads the bball articles anyway.
I just got word (wind?) that Kitchen was proved to be once again out of shape, apparently asking flow blows through the game. I missed this with the game being a laugher and watching on TV. Unfortunate. I take back my earlier praise.
by DixieNole on Nov 16, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He should work into shape
Wonder if he has some sort of problem.
by FSUncensored on Nov 16, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was on the pracice bike
before tipoff and to begin the second half
by marlins44 on Nov 17, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And we actually have a big ball crowd
by FSUncensored on Nov 16, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exciting.
then can someone help me with a nickname for Demercy. Id like to go ironic, but cannot come up with anything better than The Captain. help.
The bar was set to high with the Glove and the Rock, but I feel Demercy is good for it.
by DixieNole on Nov 16, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MattD and the other humorists...
where is TRM?
by FSUncensored on Nov 17, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Powder.
I saw him bring a deer back to life once.
by MattDNole on Nov 17, 2009 7:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All Air no Flair.
That’s a tricky one.
by MattDNole on Nov 17, 2009 7:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Depth Purposes
As in “Why is he on the team?”
by MattDNole on Nov 17, 2009 7:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hustle and Slow
Kind of a combo nickname for Jordan and Luke.
by MattDNole on Nov 17, 2009 7:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chick Fil A on Sunday
Cuz he’s not open.
by MattDNole on Nov 17, 2009 7:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Already reserved for Korey Mangum
cause he won’t be working on Sundays!
by basaltrock on Nov 17, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some Courtside Observations
My girl scored some courtside tickets (near the baseline on the FSU side of the Court.
1) LH was working the official in the second half when we were up a bunch, concerning the call where Gibson stepped out of bounds (was slightly bumped). I thought the official made the correct call. Hamilton was sashaying (sp?) down the side line, pantomiming the push. The official acknowledged that he had a fair point. A couple of minutes later, Pierre Jordan stepped out of bounds on that same baseline just before he threw a great pass out to the middle of the Court. I don’t know if the official was thinking that I owe Ham a close one, but he didn’t call him out of bounds. Anyway, good job by LH.
2) The players were very relaxed and genuinely having fun. It was especially fun to watch Singleton and Alabi dancing on the bench when other people were making plays.
3) Snaer is pretty tenacious on defense. I thought overall, he did the best or second best job on #3, with DD being the other guy. FSU rotated 4, possibly 5 different defenders on Smith, and he scored most of his points in garbage time in the second half.
4) I was disappointed that Shannon was in street clothes. I’ve got high expectations for him.
5) Reid played an excellent game.
6) Singleton needs to work on his free throw shooting. I think that goes without saying.
7) Its fine that DeMercy is getting minutes now, but anything North of 10 minutes per game in ACC play will be a waste, imo.
by fsu44 on Nov 17, 2009 8:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tobacco Fee Florida
I love Snaer! He really had good focus and effort on defense.
If we cut Demercy’s minutes, he’ll play even harder.
by FSUncensored on Nov 17, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
re: Tobacco Fee Florida
lmao. Don’t kill my golden ticket goose please.
by fsu44 on Nov 17, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I missed most of the game, but caught about a quarter of it.
I am going to get off the Reid hate train. He looked under control when he had the ball and I was pleasently surprised. I reserve the right to get back on if he picks up 3 fouls in the first 10 minutes of our first challenging game though.
OH YEAAHH!
by TBfisherman on Nov 17, 2009 8:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Plenty of room on the train
We will be happy to welcome you back anytime.
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Nov 17, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the analysis TC and crew.
It’s nice to see some evaluations since I couldn’t watch the whole game. It’s also cool to see so many guys involved. Hopefully it increases as the season goes on.
OH YEAAHH!
by TBfisherman on Nov 17, 2009 9:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
The amount of players rotated was staggering
I know it was Jacksonville and we were in control early but the player rotation was constant and frequent. At times it was hard to keep up with who was on the court. This is exciting in that we will need a deep bench this year as I expect the ACC to be very competitive this year. I think it will be a Big East vs ACC for power conference this year and I think the ACC will be the better overall conference.
I have quiet optimism for this team though. They look much improved over last year and if they get their heads in the game and stay focused, this could be a dominant team this year.
by diablonole on Nov 17, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was intentional
I caught the LH Post Game show and he was mentioning the aggressive schedule we have coming up. We have a lot of games in a short amount of time so there is no reason to have a huge number of minutes for anyone in a 30 point game..
"Reporter: What will you tell the team at halftime Bobby?
Bobby: I'll tell 'em what I always tell 'em when were winning. Boys if they don't score we'll win this game"
by fsugrizz on Nov 17, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad notes…guards picking up their dribble with no plan to shoot or pass.
Too many turnovers, poor free throw shooting.
Good notes. Gibson 5-5 from the floor including a 3 pt shot. Snaer and Dulkys nailing 3’s from everywhere. Dulkys looks like a completely different player out there. Much more confident MUCH better on ‘D’. Snaer has nice handles and made some nice passes.
Loucks reminded me of Pistol Pete with some of those passes. Not sure if that’s good or not.
Reid looks the best I’ve seen him ever. Alabi stronger every game. Moreau looked pissed because he missed his 3.
"I am not now at all sure that the tendency to treat the whole thing as a kind of vast game is really good - certainly not for me who find that kind of thing only too fatally attractive." - J R R Tolkein
by Olbrannon on Nov 17, 2009 9:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The free-throw shooting worries me. Hopefully that was an off night.
Other than that, just your typical LH coached basketball team
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Seriously, Bobby. Go Away.
by JMB on Nov 17, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't worry about FTs as long as Edenfield is on staff
OH YEAAHH!
by TBfisherman on Nov 17, 2009 11:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
X-Man has a sweet stroke
I think some of the turnovers will stop.
We can live with a turnover rate of less than 25%
by FSUncensored on Nov 17, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like how we made an inferior team look...well...inferior
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Seriously, Bobby. Go Away.
by JMB on Nov 17, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully Reid will
starting being more Ryan Reidish over the rest of our pre-conference games, so Gibson can start before the ACC schedule starts. Other than that and free throws, great game hopefully FSU will continue playing their game and not falling back on bad habits of the past (playing down to their opponents).
the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009
by CubFanRaysaddict on Nov 17, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Like it or not, FSU needs Reid
You do not want Gibson starting for many reasons, some of which have been outlined on this site in the past, but mainly because he is not a complete player yet. Im not saying the Predator is a complete player, but he “fits” in the starting line up better and FSU needs what he brings to the table to offset the softness that Alabi and Singleton bring.
Gibson needs to come in, get his points, and get out. Unless he wants to start playing defense, distributing the ball when he gets doubled, crash the boards, you know… play basketball.
by DixieNole on Nov 17, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
the announcers made a similar point last night, about his role being a catch and shoot (After his baseline jumper), i’m kind of just hoping he gets the playing time before ACC play to learn those things or be comfortable in doing those things on a regular basis.
the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009
by CubFanRaysaddict on Nov 17, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
another reason
gibson – 4 fouls in 19 mins
by sperrett on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They are underweight, slow and sloppy
I’m afraid for this season.
by Trus1te on Nov 17, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't take my comments wrong
But I just don’t see this team finishing any higher than last year—which ain’t bad…
But they are hurting @ width right now…plenty of height—not good width and TERRIBLE speed.
by Trus1te on Nov 17, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah - you need superior 'width' factor to be successful in the acc
that’s why we need to hire a ‘width & girth’ coach..
by 000111 on Nov 17, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I understand where all this negativity is coming from.
I guess expectations were really high.
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 18, 2009 1:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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