Florida State Pulls Out 29-26 Win Over Maryland
by Bud Elliott on Nov 21, 2009 3:36 PM EST
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Maryland ran 73 plays to FSU's 50, and Florida State's defense couldn't get the Terps' offense off the field as Maryland held the ball for an incredible 38 minutes of possession time. But what FSU's offense did with those 50 plays was hand Maryland their 2nd worst defensive game of the season. The 'Noles gained 8 yards per snap and yet they still struggled to find a rhythm as they sat on the sidelines for long periods of time. All 3 of FSU's interceptions came after Maryland drives of 4, 6, and 6 minutes.
Florida State led 14-13 at halftime. In the 3rd quarter, Maryland started a drive that went 59 yards on 7 plays to lead 19-14 at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Florida State then went 62 yards in only 4 plays for the score, highlighted by Bert Reed's 42 yard end around for a touchdown. The 2-point conversion was good and the 'Noles led 22-19. But Florida State's 90th ranked defense was again a sieve and allowed Maryland to march 79 yards on 12 plays for the touchdown and the 26-22 lead. The drive lasted 6 minutes. Florida State was then intercepted and the defense held. Freshman return sensation Greg Reid gave FSU good field position for the first time all day, and freshman quarterback E.J. Manuel led FSU to victory with runs of 15 and 20, and a pass of 7 yards. FSU led 29-26. And importantly, they left Maryland with only 32 seconds.
Florida State had a sparse crowd for what was Mickey Andrews' last game. It was also senior day. And Judging by the attendance at the game, 'Nole fans just aren't interested in the product FSU is putting on the field. This was an important weekend for recruiting and it will be very interesting to see what the recruits at the game on official visits felt about the atmosphere and the program. Maryland had only a single win over a 1A team on the season and FSU kept it that way. Florida State is now bowl eligible for a record 28th consecutive season and will travel to the swamp to face the Florida Gators, in what is becoming a rivalry in name only as the Gators will be looking to win their 6th straight over the Noles. UF will be 4-touchdown favorites and the game will be televised nationally on CBS.
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in the terrible defense's defense...
…They did force one turnover on the reviewed play of a Maryland 4th down conversion.
by The K-Man on Nov 21, 2009 3:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
My thoughts
Patrick Robinson had his best game of the year.
EJ needs to lower the arc on some of his passes. His scrambling ability is off the charts though.
Reid once again proved to be our most electric player. He is going to be very good.
Fortson once again proved to be hot and cold.
The O-line did a decent job considering the main stay Hudson was missing.
This team never quits and that does count for something.
This seals a bowl game for us and that is good. On the other hand I have a bad feeling on what implications this has on our program and Bowden coming back.
Nice...
I personally don’t think it has any impact on Bowden at this point…what is on the table is on the table and just has to play out.
EJ is not over arching the ball isn’t turning over.
Yeah, right!
Bowden will be here but we’ll have Jimbo calling the shots on offense and a new Defensive staff and Special teams staff
Bowden would be a glorified mascot paraded around
Yeah thats a problem as well
He has always had a funny release even in high school. You can tell though that someone has been working with him on it. One interception wasn’t his fault either. It was on Beau the TE.
I don't think Ann would've spoken had it already been decided
And don’t think she doesn’t know the situation
>>---l>
Bad choice of words... the matter still has to play out, but both sides have decided where their head is at.
When the get together it will unfold… I don’t think this game affects that either way.
Yeah, right!
Bowl game vs. losing record
I think that will sway some of those making the decision. It shouldn’t, though.
>>---l>
Korey Mangum actually made a big tackle today
Was anyone else as shocked as I was that he did something right?
I was shocked too
I fell off the couch and said to my father, “can you believe Mangum made an effing play?”
his reply, “no, but they should take him out now so he can end senior day on a high note.”
Jimbo 2010
Mangum was 8 yd off the line
Same position he is all game long. Right place at right time. He still got smoked in the 1QTR and thankfully Moody played most of the second half.
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Nov 22, 2009 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
i was in awe
When I saw the screen get blown up I couldn’t believe my eyes that 22 mangum was in on the playm The D looked good at times and same old same old most of the time. P Robinson played a good game but could have had some big catches made on him. I think the D gets a C grade
by 3rdandManageable(VicVanBuren) on Nov 22, 2009 1:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
FSU had ZERO penalties for the day. WTF?????
Am I in an alternate universe?? I mean ZERO? Zip? NADA?
There was 1 penalty declined at
the end of the half on JT’s last run. Holding but declined.
They seemed to let the teams play for the most part, which as we all know is very unusual for ACC officials. Maybe since the game had no bearing on the title race the refs just checked out.
Jack Childress' crew is the best around
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
Disagree with Uncensored's judgement of the interceptions.
Those are on EJ and and the WRs. Not the defense. We had long drives before at least 2 of those picks, so the offense wasn’t rusty.
The key is that we had an off day on offense and got the win. We actually looked a lot like another team that was wearing alternate uniforms today: Ohio State (well… with really bad defense).
by MattDNole on Nov 21, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
good point
But Unscensored seems to always have a bias in his writing.. It is the defense’s fault that EJ was intercepted and returned to within the 10 yard line.
The argument is still valid
Offense never really got into a rhythm. Obviously could have played better, but they weren’t as bad as they looked. It was a rough day overall IMO.
FsuN called that, too
saying that Manuel would look rough at times out there today.
dingdingdingding
dude, he took visits to BIG programs with packed stadiums
recruits laugh at our home games now.
Best case is for them to see Tally only IMO
Joyner has been about one thing since day one, and winning and atmosphere aint it.
365 days, until I change my ways.
He made it
Reported on another site, that he made it. Not sure if he was there for part of the game or didnt get there till afterwards?
Which is a big part of why I mentioned G5 getting on the field a lot if he got to the game
365 days, until I change my ways.
bah to finish my thought above
Uncensored mentioned he wasn’t there. I heard he was or was on campus yesterday at least. I will try and find out more about that. Listed as a visit here.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Lamarcus-Joyner-78710
I'm glad LJ didn't take his official today
would like him to take it in Jan (hopefully the last weekend before signing day).
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
You're splitting hairs
MattDNole. I heard Joyner was on campus and hosted by Reid and my info is usually solid and not from from someone just reporting on who they see on the sideline during the game.
Your info is so legit brah.
He is here. He was at the game. He is being hosted by G5.
365 days, until I change my ways.
yeah
I got that now sorry. On phone, watching football and typing about recruiting doesn’t go hand in hand. carry on.
I also wonder
where some people on this site get their “info”. Most of it is just hearsay or repeating of stuff they heard second hand. The best info comes from friends in the coaching staff and Board Of Trustee’s and boosters that your family is tight with.
Oh no
I do not expect them to coach the bowl game.
by Bud Elliott on Nov 21, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You have sources and contacts, but I can't see that playing out from my POV.
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It might with just one of the D coaches
I wouldn’t be surprised.
If that happens, it would be totally asinine. That means it could happen.
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Well I think any of us who watched on tv can agree...
Our futuristic uniforms >>>>> Ohio State’s crappy unis
Thirded
There were way more here than for homecoming. Before the announced attendance I would have guessed 60-65K.
It was a good crowed
Possibly my last chance at attending a home game and I’m glad I went. LOL at all the people who left after EJ’s 3rd pick – they missed a great last series.
65K
I was very surprised that many people stayed after EJ’s pick. I thought the floodgates would open up.
Dissapointed I was surrounded by mom(s) reading magazines and doing crosswords with their kids. What a waste of 15th row tickets….
Btw, I must have won the score prediction (30-27). FSUn, what do I win? :)
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Nov 22, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
You are absolutely correct. Yours was the closest to the actual final score, followed closely by TrueCubbie with his 31-27 prediction.
I guess The Ryno and I Know, really knew.
30-27 FSU
1. Too many issues being discussed this week with little media attention paid to gameplan and scheme (Mickey, Seniors, Ann’s comments, EJ’s first performance, weather, big recruiting visit, bowl eligibility).
2. MD has nothing to lose, has no pressure playing at home in front of their pissed off fans, has a mobile QB, will be blitzing, and is a team that did beat Clemson this year.
3. We have no homefield advantage. These seniors are 11-11 against FBS teams since 2006
4. BC 2008 Redux: It feels alot like last year’s BC game, which had off-field distractions… and we all saw the players come out flat for the first half. (which if they make it through the next week, MAJOR kudos to the players for having no off-field incidents this season)
It will take a hurculean effort by Jimbo to keep these players focused
“I got a PBS mind in an MTV world”…Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Nov 20, 2009 1:27 PM EST
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SO I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH YOUR SHINY AWARD PRIZE.
IN ADDITION, YOU WILL ALSO RECEIVE A SPECIAL BONUS PREZENT FROM A FORMER SEMINOLE GREAT, ESPECIALLY FOR YOU.
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Truecubbie
Interesting the two cub named SBN posters on TN were the closest to to correct game score…and I’d like to thank Sammy and his donkey b*alls for keepin’ it PG for all the children in the room
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Nov 22, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
HERE IS YOUR SPECIAL BONUS PREZENT FROM A FORMER SEMINOLE GREAT ESPECIALLY FOR YOU.
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Damnit
If that Maryland kicker wasn’t such a dumbass Sammy would have been all mine
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
I was at the game I was guessing around 60,000. I don’t think that’s too far off.
Do they count tickets scanned at the gate or tickets sold?
I believe it's tickets sold.
but not 100% sure.
I’m sure someone else will be able to give you a more definitive answer.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
FSUncensored - an edit you should make
In the 3rd quarter, Maryland marched 59 yards on 7 plays to lead 19-14.
That drive took place in the 4th Q.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
I don't think we will
but I hope we play a REALY crappy team. I know it probably won’t happen but I would love to keep our “winning season” streak alive.
…Regardless of who the coach is.
I saw a FSU v Temple prediction this morning
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
Fortson drop
If we had lost, I would have put the loss on Fortson for his drop at the 1 yard line. If he makes that catch, we are up 21-6 going into halftime. He makes some great plays but, kills a couple of drives each week. The D actually played pretty well in the first half but, started breaking down under pressure in the second half. It sure was nice to see them get a three and out when we had to have it.
I was sitting right in front of that play, it would have been a really tough catch
365 days, until I change my ways.
That's on EJ
Throw incredibly late. Fortson had to look down to make sure he wasn’t already out of bounds.
But it still goes back to his lack of concentration.
Yes, EJ was really late and it should have been a walk in TD, but it’s still a play he could have and probably should have made. The blame on the play in the film room goes to EJ, but Fortson should make that play.
Tools Whore
Agreed
Fortson was five steps into his break before that ball got there. When he cut he was almost at the freakin’ hash!
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Nov 22, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
On the penalty front
There weren’t much called either way. Maryland noticeably held on many key plays. The refs did sort of sit on their hands today. Probably worked out better for us in the long run.
Not trying to be funny but maybe Fortson
needs his eyes checked. There was a reciever a couple years back in the league got his eyes checked after missing alot of catchable balls and found out he need contacts.
Koren Robinson, but that probably had more to do with his drinking as well
365 days, until I change my ways.
I thought it was Andre Johnson from UM?
by SANole on Nov 21, 2009 6:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
BTW...
I should have clarified the tone as I was not calling you out. I apologize if it sounded that way. :-)
I just know about Johnson because it made big news here in Texas.
by SANole on Nov 21, 2009 6:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah it was Andre Johnson
that I was thinking of, but I think SWFL is right as well. I think Koren also had a vision problem. On top of his massive drinking problem.
Some really good people love the bottle you know
Some that write about recruiting even.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Was that a shot at FSUSOM?
;)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
He would laugh at this.
I write about recruiting too!
Errr….sometimes.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Yes, because I am the one that emails when absolutely trashed.
Maybe, for the next WORT, I can start a new series detailing your drunk emails. I still have them.
:)
i think Troy Williamson had a similar issue
Not that he was cured or anything
by The K-Man on Nov 21, 2009 6:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I definitely agree with MattD
Those pics were completely on the O. One the first, we drive the length of the field. On the second and third, we were driving, but on number 2 EJ had his worst pass of his two starts and on the third Reliford ran the wrong route. However, for a RS Freshman making his 2nd start, he looks awesome! Poor guy, though, because next week he is going to look awful and the talking heads will say Jimbo’s prized recruit is a bust.
Maybe he learned a lot today.
Let’s hope so. He will have to adjust to the speed he will see next week and it will be shocking to hs sytem. I think he;s in good hands with JUMBO.
Here's a thought experiment.
What would you rather have happen. FSU somehow beats UF ending their national title hopes in one of the biggest upsets in history but in doing so guaranteeing Bobby’s return, or would you rather us get blown out and have Bobby get pushed out?
That's absurd
But beating the #1 ranked gators or getting blown out by them? That’s no contest.
Bobby is coming back regardless next year.
But the game to push him out was this game
not the UF game. Everyone expects a blowout. We are 4-touchdown underdogs.
I still expect him to get bought out.
Win And Bobby Leave
I want to have my cake and eat it too!
I don't know why people think a win in the swamp will send Bobby packing. I think the opposite. He will be a hero and want to come back even stronger.
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Why Can'T I Have Both?
Didn’t say that I thought he would leave. Just saying what I would like to happen. You have to have some to dream for.
Call me crazy
but ending UFs hopes is like a dream.
Beat the Gaytors!
I don’t care what anybody says about BB returning or what. This game means toward that. I want to beat the gaytors and spoil tim tebows last home game and cause chaos in the BCS. Who wants to sit down next Sat at 330 and say alright take it to us Tebow! Cmon Urban run up the score! W e can win that game. Keep it 3rd and Manageable
by 3rdandManageable(VicVanBuren) on Nov 22, 2009 1:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can see the Gameday promo now...
EJ Manuel, undefeated as a starter, leads his Seminoles into the Swamp to take on Tim Tebow and the No 1 Gators….
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Why wouldnt you want that
by 3rdandManageable(VicVanBuren) on Nov 22, 2009 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Cause we have already been embarassed enough this season
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
Because I want to win the bowl game
not get smoked and embarrassed by a team that nobody but professional gamblers realize is very good.
And our scheduling is a big reason why we are 6-6.
Dumbass scheduling. We need to schedule like Penn State.
or Texas or Florida or Alabama
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
Oregon State, AZ, and Oregon
Are a lot better than FSU
FSU could beat Washington or UCLA and would probably be favored
Toilet Bowl
We’ve already been playin’ in that one all season. Different opponents. Same shit. Doesn’t really matter which bowl or team we play. We will win. I’d be in favor of the Music City Bowl against Georgia.
I always love to see my 6 yuengling black and tans after a fall win… but I swear if this win gives Bobby any chance of coming back, i am done buying any FSU gear, FSU game tix or giving $ to the school/boosters. I’m sick of barely beating teams, I’m sick of a half prepared team, I want a full staff of competent coaches and recruiters so much more than I want a 6-6 season.
Happy for the win? Yes. Under no circumstances will I be happy with Bobby coming back… not beating UF not winning the bowl game. theres not one thing that can happen this year that will make Bobby coming back alright
I can't even think about espn's Gameday
A Bobby Bowedn and Tim Tebow slurp fest.
About the helmets.
Did the rain make them sparkle? They looked at times on TV like they had gold flakes throughout…
If not, it would have been a great touch…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Hated the new uniforms...
There were flakes, and it made the helmets looks wet.
We’re using this new fabric from now on, but not the color/design, right?
LOVED LOVED LOVED the new unis in person
except the helmets, hated them
365 days, until I change my ways.
Love or hate...
..they are still gone, right? Just a promo? How I see it, we already have the best unis in the country. They do a heck of a lot more recruiting than Bobby has recently.
I know said this earlier but....
Just to push the discussion. A win over Florida would make for BB’s exit. He could retire with a win over them and move on. A loss to them guarantees he’s back for his farewell tour.
I completely agree with this.
Maybe the only way he could stay…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Yeah
beating UF gives him some strength within the admin and the fanbase. Our fans would be happy with a win over UF even with this season. I don’t want to be OSU or Michigan, beating the rival does not the season make. I want to compete on a yearly basis for ACC championships and every 4-5 year for national championships, be in the running. Beating UF after a 6-6 season gives Bobby what he needs to come back
I have to disagree on that one.
Think about the ticket sales for the road games. Many fans of the game would like to say they were there for BB’s last season. Commemorative tickets at home. The merchandising alone… think Bobby bobble heads…. the possibilities are endless.
The TV stuff would be constant the tributes sickening, but pretty much anyone should be able to see the money that could be made by having him one more year as a highly paid mascot.
So, only one school makes money every year...I see.
It’s a nice shot, but it doesn’t hold water. Money could be made with it. We are going to have to pay him off anyway.
Who knows, if he’s busy with all of the glad handing he’ll stay away from the players and we might just win at least an ACC title.
Ticket sales?
It’s just not going to happen.
A bobby bowden farewell tour won’t sell tickets. Novelty only.
Other fans care less about Bowden than we do
Other fans aren’t going to rush to watch a coach they have no emotional attachment to and who hasn’t been winning big in almost a decade. Bowden is no longer a star on the college landscape anymore.
Anyone who thinks Bowden’s last season would be a boost to sales or recruiting is living in the past.
by osceolafan850 on Nov 21, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah no doubt ticket sales would
go up if Bowden came back and had a farewell tour. Plus I think we are a better team next year. Our losses this year have killed attendance. 2 games with noon starts this year as well. That hurts attendance.
Ticket sales will go up...
…when Bobby is gone and we start winning again with a real coaching staff. Bobby’s farewell tour will not sell. It absolutely will not. Who would pay money to watch a hapless team “guided” by an irrelevant and absurd figurehead? We need to move forward for the sales to go up. It will not happen before then.
We will not
be hapless next year. Our offense will be stellar and our defense with a new staff will be a significant upgrade to this year. And with all the marketing and tie-ins you could get it would be a goldmine.
I agree -- It's a money maker for 2 yrs
First year, we are much better due to a new DC & improved D. The D cannot get any worse and Jimbo will have the O firing on all cylinders. That said, BB final farewell presents the novelty of bobble heads and see you later hater shirts and shirts and novelties.
Second year out will be even better for the D and a wholoe new round of marketing for what should be a fabulous first season with Jimbo as HC.
I should add
the one thing that is a kink is this idea is money. Bringing Bowden back as a figurehead will mean a lot of money next year in terms of marketing and tie ins, but it also means paying him another year which hurts in terms of hiring a new defensive staff. Losing his salary frees up money for sure. I think the decision will be made shortly after the Florida game. December and January will be interesting months in Tally. I definitely am keeping my ear to the ground though and trying to figure out what is going on, but info is tough to get these days regarding that matter.
which demographic is sitting at home, not attending games because there's not enough finite closure in Bobby's 2009 games?
Answer: maybe a couple. And they’re douchebags.
by The K-Man on Nov 21, 2009 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That is not true
Most on this site, and from what I’ve seen, most in the Seminole Nation, are close enough to have figured this out. Bobby needs to go.
However – Around the country, and even more so around our conference, they really don’t know the inside scoop on BB. You hear it when you listen to the spin coming from the national sports guys.
It is big medicine still, out there, beyond our fan base.
Sometimes you have to look beyond your nose, which is the same problem most of us have with the Bowdens at present.
No, b/c we have a kick a$$ D and an offense second to none--that's why they will come
Next question is: How much crap will they buy when they come? With a plentiful supply of novelty items mocking BB for opposing teams and other stuff for the BB cult members who never had a chance to purchase a final farewell anything as well as black shirt type gear saying good riddence, the answer is plenty. It gives them a reason to hate UF, the memories of the 90’s brought back to life with a new DC and an offense that can’t be stopped.
The next year, a whole new line of gear for Jimbo as HC when the new DC is in his second year and bringing the D into the top 20 ranks.
Not sayin’ that I prefer the $ to putting finality to the saga.
i dont want memories of the 90's.
Kurt Kobain.
Waco, Texas.
Columbine.
Ross Perot.
I want new memories of the Jimbo Era.
by The K-Man on Nov 21, 2009 9:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
To most around the country
He remains an icon. You know the situation. Most out there don’t. And if they listen to the national media then you should know what the spin is and will be.
Couldn't disagree more
To most of the country he is an after thought. Bowden is no longer national news unless the topic is firing him. He doesn’t get interviewed by the national press, doesn’t coach many primetime games and when he does he has been losing for years. Bowden has been lapped in importance by Meyer, Carroll and Saban and expecting opposing fans to gobble up Bowden gear is as silly as expecting me to rock a houndstooth cap.
by osceolafan850 on Nov 22, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
Funny response
But I’m not talking about houndstooth caps. Bowdens only relevance IS the question of him being fired or he “retires”. Like it or not, he is an icon and the media likes to obsess on when icons get fired. You’re talking about coaching, I’m talking about the fact that there will need to be some positioning – and how to make the best of it if he ends up staying for a farewell tour.
Your comments were funny, but had nothing to do with the reality we may face.
Would you want to go see Paterno?
I wouldn’t, zero relevance to me
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 22, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec. This is the best analogy of this topic in this thread.
If PSU were playing FSU, and I was planning on going to the game anyway, great. I would not go just because it was Paterno’s farewell tour. I would go to support my team, I could care less that it was JoePa’s last game, nor would I buy his bobble-head (why anyone would buy a bobble-head anyway is beyond me, but I digress), I would go because I was it was planned.
I am sure this is the same feelings other school’s fans would feel about a BB farewell tour, just a sideshow to the game.
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Would love the Music City Bowl vs UGA....
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
I think the 03 Sugar Bowl...
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
We lost to them in a bowl game
when Rix got suspended for sleeping through a test or something as I recall. Anquan Bolden played QB and we still almost won.
Rix violated the "Deion Sanders" rule
…where, prior to the ’93 NC game, Sanders did not go to a single one of his exams during finals week.
Fabian Walker...Boldin was already in NFL
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Nov 22, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Played UGA
I think we lost to them in a bowl game about 6 or 7 years ago and lost.
fabian walker's shoulder was shredded up. couldnt get anything on his throws.
And we didn’t “almost beat them”. Talman Gardner dropped a gorgeous rainbow pass from Anquan to end the first half, and that sealed our fate.
I recall Musa Smith running all over us and Ben Watson having his way.
by The K-Man on Nov 21, 2009 7:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
A little embellishment for my boys.
But a dropped pass away from a very respectable showing with a WR getting the majority of the passes at QB? Coulda’ been worse.
Not even close,
Richt kicked a few field goals to end drives when they were moving the ball with ease. We got our a$$es handed to us basically.
FSU RECORD IS 4- 6- 1 vs GEORGIA
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09/18/1954 L 0-14 H 6-3-1
10/15/1955 L 14-47 H 4-6
09/29/1956 L 0- 3 A 3-6-1
10/11/1958 L 13-28 N 4-6 Jacksonville, Fl
10/31/1959 L 0-42 A 14 10-1
10/14/1961 W 3- 0 H 3-7
10/20/1962 W 18- 0 A 3-4-3
10/17/1964 W 17-14 A 10 16 7-3-1
10/16/1965 W 10- 3 H 5 5 6-4
12/22/1984 T 17-17 N 15 7-4-1 Citrus Bowl, Orlando, Fl
01/01/2003 L 13-26 N 16 16 4 4 13-1 Sugar Bowl, New Orleans, La
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Bowden will never want to leave
Just listen to the man, every year it’s another stupid a$$ excuse. If I start to loose more than 1 game a year. If we stop competing for championships, i’ll leave. I want to coach [Insert QB] senior year. He’ll make up some dumb ass reason every year to come back. I stop listen to Bowden about 3 years ago, when sadly I admitted to myself what I already knew, the guy is FOS.
by nappygoat on Nov 21, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
100000% correct, and he will be back with more excuses next season.
Ann, Tommy, Terry, and the PR firm will be out in force with talking points about how the honorable thing to do is buyout Jimbo and bring back Bobby for another year. We will probably escape it, but we’ll be going through all these headaches one more time.
Why is no one saying that it simply makes no sense for BB to come back?
The offense is run by Fisher. We will have new defense and special teams coaches. What possible reason could there be for Bobby to hang around? Where does he fit in? All emotion aside, this is simply the perfect time to make a complete transition. This is a complete no-brainer, yet not even mentioned by a single commentator or announcer.
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I used to believe that
until recently. Then I realized he has lost his mind. I still love the guy for what he did, a long time ago. I am so disappointed in the narcissist he’s become.
Maybe he’s been one all along. We were just blinded by the aw shucks and the victories.
Exactly
I think the time to make the move is now. We have momentum now, even espn is slightly on our sides as we struggle and they point out the Bowden’s nonsense. I think it’s risk to bring him back. With a new staff we will be better and then what happens when we try to get rid of him next year?
Like has been discussed, low ball him in salary, or offer him a bigger buyout. Let him make his own bed and crap in it for a change.
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Excuse my attitude, but I could care less what ESPN portrays us as.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Well of course, if it was up to people like us he would’ve been gone a long time ago. But the people who run this university will care, and we can see where it has gotten us
I think people overweigh ESPN's coverage in making actual decisions.
365 days, until I change my ways.
ESPN is ready to do a hatchet job on us anyway...
been in the works for a while.
Doesn’t matter what we do….they will smear us.
ACC, PAC 10, and Big 12 need to start their own network to combat this ESPN/SEC BS.
ESPN never wants any team to let any coach go much less a legend....
but the University owes the players and the fans the BEST possible coaching staff available, which is one that no longer includes BB as a part of it.
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http://www.noleball.com
They are all just sitting in their offices wondering how to screw FSU!
No, in reality ESPN wants FSU to be good. ESPN makes money when FSU is good becuase we drive coverage. We draw. The ESPN conspiracy crap is just that.
365 days, until I change my ways.
They may not be purposely trying to do it,......
but in their continuing unwavering support of Bobby’s “desire” to coach another year over the best interests of the team, they are screwing us nonetheless.
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Take our medicine and move on
Maybe they smear us maybe they don’t, smart fans, or rather, not dumb fans from rival schools know he should have been gone awhile ago, so if ESPN wants to appeal to the lowest common denominator, the casual uninformed fan, then let them. Everyone on here has seen how much the media’s opinion has changed from the BC, USF, GT stretch and right after the Clemson game. At this point it’s ESPN and soft color-analysts vs the rest of the world.
by vanillathrilla83 on Nov 21, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Well when they continue to use words like "deserve"
And “The least they can do” it sets us up to look terrible in the public eye or actually concede to another year of mediocrity.
you are right
if you give him one more year and they win at least 10 games next year, watch him lobby and fight you teeth and nails to stay, he’ll cause more damage next year than this year. This year no one can defend him on performance, they say he deserves. Next year, they’ll say he turned it around the team is playing well and he also deserves ;).
Get him out now.
Somebody set us up the Bowden. All your field are belong to us.
television announcers are no-brainers.
Easier to regurgitate cliche talking points instead of putting things into perspective.
“Put FSU on the map” requires no research.
by The K-Man on Nov 21, 2009 7:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I really miss having nextlevel/thechi around. Bud, will you email him and ask him to come back.
“We will be undefeated heading into the Swamp.”
If he hadn’t been such a dick, he would be good for a few laughs right about now.
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Come'on he was your buddy, or maybe I'm thinking of TRMnole.
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If
If a Coaches contracted salary is commensurate with his contribution…
Then wouldn’t Bobby Bowden be due for a sizeable pay cut ?
I PROMISE ! No more Pics in game day threads!
Hell yeah, Huge paycut
Let’s see how much he wants to come back. 3 mill to leave half a mil to “coach” with not authority.
Joepa has given millions....
about 2-4 to their library alone.
Bobby has given FSU almost nothing. And I am told the rare time he pledged…he never actually gave the money. But his cult members will argue he has.
have heard the same.
He really is a bit of a hillbilly. I swear when Ann talks I can hear the banjos.
If we had lost today
I have to be truthful here. I was catching myself wanting us to lose and win all in the same breath, because i truly think a loss would have been the straw that broke the camels back for Bobby.
It doesn't matter that we won...
This program is at a 25 year low point. We were 2 minutes and change away from losing at home to a 2-8 Maryland team, missing a bowl game and having a losing season.
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Bowden should be thanking Greg Reid for giving him a prayer of returning, but in reality he probably doesn’t even know ‘little number 5’s" name.
yeah he does
calls him buddy
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by Renegade_NOL3 on Nov 22, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Mickey deserved to win
in his last game at Doak. Unbelievably the D did get a stop for him when they needed it most. Also nice redemption for EJ with those two big runs at the end after a 3 pick day.
by crmnole on Nov 21, 2009 8:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
A Thought, FSUn..
While I understand your reasoning as far as if BB wins at Florida, I do think that at this point the river has soured enough to the point where the university might still only offer him a limited extension anyway? I mean, it seems to me that with Wetherell out anyway, there is a definite chance that there are those who are sober enough to still make the call and send him off anyway even if he DOES get one more year. I mean, after all the hand-wringing and the “writing on the wall” kind of stuff, is that not also a possibility as to what may happen? I think Jimbo’s proved himself enough, and I know I’m not the only person…
(1st post!)
Welcome!
He won’t be here in 2011, but if we beat the Gates this year, he will make us look back if we let him back next year and then force him out.
Where did you hear about us?
So do you guys think if we hire Sunseri as our new DC?
That he will come before our bowl game? And who do you think he might bring with him?
In such a hypothetical situation...
would he be observing or actually coaching; installing new schemes. How would it work if Mickey was still calling the game?
I didn't get to see the game, I will be watching the replay later
It sounds like we were lucky to get the win. Our D is incredibly bad, allowing that many yards against Maryland. LP had a good day from what I see, it is good to see the young guys making a impact so soon for us.
ESPN360.com
can watch the replay right now
use comcast as isp
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not 100% sure if SunSports will be showing a replay on Sunday, and if they are I’m not sure when it would start.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Sun Sports has got it listed for its usual 7:00pm Sunday slot on their website.
"The other day I... uh, no, that wasn't me." - Steven Wright
Lonnie Pryor had a very nice game
I think we should have run the ball more with him as both of his rushes went for TDs (2 for 2). :)
Seriously, though he had a solid game, not only with the 2 TDs (incl. showing that speed and burst on the long TD option run), but did well in giving EJ an outlet out of the backfield and a pretty good job at picking up the blitzers and/or helping an OT by chipping a wide rusher.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Pryor, although he doesnt have huge upside, has been extremely solid. He seems to absorbing coaching very well.
I am on the Lonnie Pryor train.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Serious Q, who's been more disappointing this year ND or FSU
both had fairly high expectations coming into the season and neither will come close to reaching them.
ND’s may have bee higher, but they also had the much easier schedule, so I’ll go with them.
The pre-season vote on here said that 8-4 was the expecatations and sitting at 6-5 meaning we finish likely 2 games below that (with a miracle getting us to within one game); whereas ND were all saying anything less than 9-3 would be a catastrophe (and they are below that already.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
ND is more disappointing because....
Expectations were low for us; while Lou Doltz was predicting on Gameday that ND would play the NC game against uf
ND lost to NAVY; at HOME. Even during the Faust years ND didn’t lose to a service academy; ND used to be criticised for scheduling service academy “cupcakes.”
Old School Nole
I say we have been more disappointing for a few reasons.
A. (trying this “numbering” scheme, bear with me if I get it wrong) I am an FSU fan, not ND
2. I really enjoyed their misery, as opposed to any sadness about their struggles.
d. What were RATIONAL expectations for them anyway? Really, other then all the idiots who put them in the top 10 after winning 2 games in a row, who really thought they would make a BCS bowl bc they deserved it and not because of their draw?
Green. Most of us knew our D would be this bad, but with an offense like we have, 6-6 is unacceptable.
WTF???? STOP IT!!! SERIOUSLY!!!
A Bobby Farewell Tour? Consider this lost decade of paying him millions for mediocrity Farewell Tour enough! No, people will no longer come out in droves to see him. That would have worked 5 – 9 years ago. Not now. The reality is that he and we are complete has-beens in the college football scene. The guys on Staff that are both competent enough to deliver, and work hard enough to do so deserve much better than what they are getting and have been more than patient in this embarrassing situation. I don’t give a shit if we beat UF by 70 and then win the Bowl Game by the same – this is a move that is YEARS overdue. NO MORE, NO MORE, NO MORE!!!!!
On a couple of separate notes: 1) Fabian Walker was definitely the QB in the Sugar Bowl against UGA. Boldin only played QB because Walker got hurt. That was back in the days of the lost decade when the D was so superior to the O and every game we lost was because the O constantly put the awesome D’s we had in awful situations. We’ve come 180 degrees from the beginning to the end of the decade – with the same result: way too many losses! 2) Someone said something about being good next year. Stop it! We’ve done the same f-ing drill every year during the lost decade. It’s always next year we’re back. Let’s do it first before we continue to look like Jokers with the broken record, tired predictions. As someone else pointed out, we needed an unbelievable punt return with less than 2 minutes left, then a Maryland team to run a prevent D allowing our QB to scramble 40 yards in 2 plays to beat a 2 – 8 team, or we end up with a losing record. Perspective can be a hard slap in the mouth some times.
by HROB3 on Nov 21, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This is the anger and sense of accountability every Seminole should demand.
The banal expression, “..Bobby should come back for one more classic run at the title” needs a concrete bath in the East River.
by The K-Man on Nov 21, 2009 9:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Did anyone notice him laugh at the prospect of us being blown out by UF in the postgame on the field?
I hope it’s just his way of dealing with stress.
Speaking of WTF, WTF is up with the RayCom reporter interviewing BB?
Asking BB, “How would it feel to go out winning a NC next year?”. We aren’t even competing for our division in the ACC and he’s asking him about a possible NC! I agree this bs needs to stop.
If he planed on next year being his last why is he fighting so hard for it, when we are falling short on our goals? If he truly supports the transition then why is he looking for his own DC candidates? One more year should not matter if he actually wanted to turn over control.
PREACH IT, BROTHER!!
hrob3 just nailed it. What a great post.
Why have we been using P-Rob for kickoff returns?
To help his draft status? I think G5 could have done a bit more back there, not just on punt returns. Greg is a weapon and expect big things from him on just about every return.
Yeah for his draft status.
He’s dropped to a second or third rounder when he was a lock for a first round pick. Haden from Florida who is entering the draft means will be the first cornerback taken. Robinson had his best game of the year though today.
Well he
had a lot of hype for sure. I will do a complete draft breakdown of FSU’s seniors when the season is over.
newplayer
when you do the draft breakdown of the seniors make sure you do mangum first, if he isnt a top 5 pick i refuse to watch football anymore, dudde cann ballll.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
mangum
will never see an NFL jersey with his name on the back unless he buys a custom one from Foot Locker.
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"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Jermaine Thomas
Why did Thomas disappear in the second half? Anybody know? Injured? Discipline? I don’t remember seeing him in once in the second….
he was nicked up in the first quarter
Came up gimpy one play, then got chopped in the legs going out of bounds the very next play.
The final straw was during the second half when he removed himself from the field in pain….during the play to his side!
by The K-Man on Nov 22, 2009 2:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I saw him get his knee twisted up under when he was tackled earlier in the game, I don't know what happened later.
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Check out his other work, He is responsible for most of the highlight videos here at TN.
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You think they'll be up tonight, pbysh?
I was unable to watch the game and would love to see some full highlights.
No, sorry, they should be up in the afternoon tomorrow.
I was going to make the highlights off of my own recording but it doesn’t have very good quality.
I just got my hands on a High Def version of the game so I am waiting for that to finish so I can make the highlights off of that, should look way better.
Rodney Hudson did not look good walking on the sidelines.
He had a noticeable limp. I would be really surprised if he is able to dress next week.
you sure it wasnt a pimp walk?
Rodney’s a pimp.
by The K-Man on Nov 22, 2009 10:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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