Preview and Game Thread: Florida State Seminoles vs. Florida Gators, 7:00pm EST
by TrueCubbie on Nov 24, 2009 12:00 PM EST
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Florida St. Seminoles at Florida Gators, Nov 24, 2009 7:00 PM EST
It's time to see what the Seminoles are made of as they head into Gainesville to take on the Florida Gators. Since 1951, when this series began, the Gators have won 38 of the 60 match ups. However, in the past six years, the Seminoles have taken control winning four out of the six games. With one exception, the Gators have been ranked in the top 25 in every match up, including a #4 ranking in the 2006 match up. The Seminoles have the opportunity, for the first time ever, to beat the Gators in four straight games. That task won't be easy as FSU heads into the hostile swamp at the O'Connell Center in Gainesville.
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Game Time: 7pm EST
Television: Fox Sports South/SUN/NESN Look for online links here and here and ESPN360.com.
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The Seminoles are off to one of their best starts in recent history. According to Ken Pomeroy's site, the Seminoles are the second best statistical team in the country so far. Keep in mind, this is based on a limited data set and this should not necessarily be considered a marker for the rest of the season. What it does indicate is that the Seminoles have won the games they are supposed in a way that should be expected, meaning the Seminoles should win these early games by 20+ points. They have done exactly that, winning the first three game by an average of 23 points per game.
Many wondered how far the Seminoles offense would drop without Toney Douglas. Many wondered how far the defense would drop without and outstanding on the ball defender. Compared to last year, there really is no comparison through three games. The Seminoles are holding their opponents to an average of defensive efficiency of 60 for second best in the nation. That means that the Seminoles are holding their opponents to 60 points per 100 possessions or 0.6 points per possession. They are holding teams to an eFG% of 31% and a FG% of 25.7%. They have a block% of 29.4 with double digit blocks in the last two games. Coach Hamilton's squad has also generated double digit steals in the last two games. You might say that this has been against weak opponents. Thus far, the Seminoles' opponents offensive efficiency is ranked 32nd in the nation. Believe it or not, Jacksonville is ranked 22nd in the Pomeroy ratings, granted this only based on one game against FSU and the relative activity of their future opponents. Some may not take much weight in the Pomeroy rankings, but it is the measure that is used for statistical purposes here. To make the defense seem even more impressive, consider this. The Seminoles have not allowed their opponents to score more than 18 points in a half and did not allow Mercer to score a single two point field goal in the first half. Simply put, the Seminoles are taking care of business on the defensive end of the court.
Now, the Seminoles head into the Swamp to take on the Gators. The Gators enter the game 3-0 with wins over Stetson, Georgia Southern and Troy, winning easily in each game. Thus far, the Gators have averaged 74.3 points per game and have only allowed 51. The Seminoles are averaging 85 points per game and only allowing 49.7. Despite averaging 74 points per game, the Gators offense has been relatively lackluster, particularly against relatively weak opponents. Thus far, the average Pomeroy rating for the Gators' opponents is 255. The Seminoles' opponents' average ranking is 148, granted all of their defenses are...not good.
Florida has been successful in limiting their opponents three point shooting ability and is likely a result of their tight man to man defense. They play full court pressure on almost every possession possible. This might give the Seminoles significant trouble to start out the game, likely resulting in a close game during the first half. The Gators' defense ranks 16th overall. They also do a really nice job rebounding the ball, limiting change of possession. Given the choice, would you think the Seminoles or Gators play at a faster pace? Believe it or not, the Seminoles do, despite having such an outstanding OReb%. Offensive rebounds decrease the number of possessions in the method that we calculate possessions; they continue a possession rather than start a new one in the way we approach the game.
While the Gators may excel on defense, their offense has yet to turn heads with an Offensive efficiency of 92.6, or less than one point per possession. They only shoot 24% from behind the three point line and have an excessive amount of their shots blocked. However, the Gators are a very athletic team and are waiting to break out of their early season woes. Despite their youth, they have done a nice job limiting their turnovers.
Here are the likely starters for the Gators:
F #21 Dan Werner 6'8 230lbs Senior Middletown, NJ
F #23 Alex Tyus 6'8 220lbs Junior St Louis, MO
C #32 Vernon Macklin 6'10 240lbs Junior Portsmouth, VA
G #1 Kenny Boynton 6'2 183lbs Freshman Pompano Beach, FL
G #11 Erving Walker 5'8 171lbs Sophomore Brooklyn, NY
Kenny Boynton, the highly recruited guard out of Plantation, Florida has demonstrated his athleticism and has contributed immediately: 19 points per game 2.3 assists per game and 4.3 rebounds per game. He is contributing as expected and is playing significant minutes, averaging 32 minutes per game. He is going to give the Seminoles guards a significant challenge. However, the Seminoles have depth. It's not such a bad thing that Snaer is coming off the bench in this game. Hopefully, the Seminoles will be able to wear him down and get him into foul trouble early. Additionally, the Gators haven't seen a defense like this as of yet, certainly nothing like the Seminoles have in the paint.
Tyus has his moments, but is currently playing with a sprained ankle. He is very active defensively and can be a work horse on the boards. Werner was quiet until the Troy game when he finally broke into double digits. Macklin has two double digit point games and is a big body in the post and has done a nice job so far this year. He transfered from Georgetown, allowing Tyus to move to his more natural power forward position. Erving Walker was quiet until Troy as well. As you can see, Walker is not the largest guard in the country. Our size will give him difficulty. It seems that Florida broke out of its shell against Troy. Therefore, it will be interesting to see which Florida team shows up against the Seminoles.
The Seminoles will again start: Alabi, Singleon, Reid, Kitchen and Dulkys. This has been a very effective line up and poses significant match up problems as Loucks, Snaer and Gibson come off the bench. This is the tallest team that Florida State has seen so far this year, but the same goes for the Gators. The Gators do have a good amount of size on their bench and it will be interesting to see what the match ups are as the game goes on. Don't be surprised if Hamilton continues with his rapid fire substitutions. It allows the Noles to play at a higher pace and apply pressure on both ends of the court.
Keys to the Game:
1. Break the press early. Punish the Gators for being greedy on defense. If the Seminoles can break the press quickly and effectively, getting easy baskets the Gators will have to get back on defense. However, this could cause some trouble for the Noles. However, they have seen a lot of pressure late in games so far this season.
2. Establish the paint. Don't get intimidated by the Gators down low. They play physical defense and will likely get a lot of calls at home. This will be a long battle for our big men. Control the paint and force the Gators to shoot threes, which they are terrible at.
3. Keep the crowd out of it. Don't allow any big runs by the Gators. Use time-outs effectively. Keep the stadium quiet. This is an early road test for the Seminoles, no need to add extra pressure.
4. Be patient. This is going to be a close game for most of the contest. Stay calm and take what they give you. Don't lose focus.
If the Seminoles want to continue to earn respect and gain attention, this is a must win game. This will be a physical battle and there will be a lot of frustrating calls. Yes, the Gators will get calls at home. Just like the Seminoles, be patient as a fan. The depth that the Seminoles possess is remarkable. Multiple players have scored in double digits coming off the bench this year. The defensive pressure of the Seminoles will give the Gators fits.The only game tape I have seen of the Gators is against Stetson. Given the the 2-1-2 defense that Stetson plays, it's not a fair comparison or a great tool to evaluate the Gators. They did well against Mercer's man to man. Where they scored a lot of their early points was in transition off Mercer's mistakes. Simply put, the Noles cannot turn the ball over without getting into serious trouble. Florida wants to get out and run and score the easy buckets. The Seminoles need a TO% of less than 20% to have a shot at winning this game.
Officials: Tony Greene (Referee) Ted Valentin and Michael Kitts (Umpires) Tony Greene is an SEC official. Over his long career, he typically calls a fair game. So far this year, he has given a 4 foul advantage to the home team. The only team for which he has called more games during his career is Kentucky.
Prediction: Seminoles 75 Gators 68
This should be a great game. Enjoy.
Go NOLES!!!
Cheers,
TC
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This game
is the only chance we have at beating the Gators this week. It also is the first game I will be able to watch so I am pumped. Thanks for the analysis True Cubbie.
by 1newplayer on Nov 24, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think we take it 71-62.
I think our solid defense will be too much for them.
by fsunole23 on Nov 24, 2009 12:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Strong pro money on +4 knocked it down to +3 before Noon
very good sign :)
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 12:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Trends still very high for us at +3 as well
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vegas is backing off
hence the line shifts… means the money is coming in on FSU.
by DixieNole on Nov 24, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I know pro money on fsu is good
not sure what Swflnole meant
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Betting trends since it moved to +3
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh you meant betting +3
gotcha. Yes
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where can I bet on this game
90% of ESPN pick’em is choosing Gators.
I can’t believe they’re favored.
I’ll be shocked if FSU loses this one.
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i wont get to watch this one.
driving home for thanksgiving.
The gators are small so we should be able to use our height to control the paint on defense and make it tough for their 5’8 and 6’2 guards to shoot over our 6’5 guys.
They are terrible shooting 3’s but they sure do attempt a bunch. regardless, i expect our d to give them very few open shots.
for the past few years we’ve been able to use superior athleticism to run all over them. Last year was close because they were able to limit toney and the rest of our offense looked confused on what to do. This year they cant hope for the same problem. I bet on defense they try to collapse into the paint to stop our bigs so look for dulkys and possibly snaer to have a great game.
If we hit some 3’s early it will free up our guys in the paint.
by B-rod24 on Nov 24, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Which UF team scores more points against FSU this weekend?
My bet is football
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 1:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nitpick re: Jacksonville -- can't put ANY weight behind kenpom rating.
We’re the only team that they’ve played, so they’re simply getting credit for not getting beat-down like other victims of the powerhouse that is FSU basketball. There is no outside reference point for them.
by arrdub on Nov 24, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Very true. Should have made that more apparent. Unfortunately there are not a lot of data points for many teams so far. But point noted.
www.Tomahawknation.com
by TrueCubbie on Nov 24, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And corrected.
www.Tomahawknation.com
by TrueCubbie on Nov 24, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mutiple FSU/UF match-ups this week
I like that the schools schedule match-ups in several sports the same week. There is also a UF/FSU swim meet this afternoon in Gainesville (men and women).
by skigator93 on Nov 24, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want a volleyball rematch
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mens swimming was very close - went down to the wire
womens not so much.
by skigator93 on Nov 24, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FSU 63 UF 59
I think we’ll be down early, perhaps as much as 10. But our length will give us enough extra possessions to make the difference, while also challenging their passing game. Kitchen playing smart ball and the team making free throws will be big too.
I see a 7 point game either way
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Nov 24, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Live Tempo-Based Stats
We have live tempo-based stats for FSU/Florida which you can check out here…
by jonpyardi on Nov 24, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
thanks!
Can you post the box score here at the half? I sometimes forget.
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TC excellent work.
In the end I agree, too many big bodies for them to handle.
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if anyone was wondering
these are the radio stations carrying the game
1040-AM, 1470-AM
by B-rod24 on Nov 24, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I cannot wait
going to the game to root for my noles!!!
by disturbednole on Nov 24, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
awesome!
Post updates on twitter!
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My roommate and I are just about to drive down
Should be great! Looking for a lot of blocked Gator shots. I’ll be happy with 5-6.
by ricobert1 on Nov 24, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will squeeze every ounce of joy out of this victory.
Especially since Saturday is going to be miserable.
by Miaminole on Nov 24, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
First of several big games tonight
We have this one, the 2-3 we will play at the Old Spice in Orlando this weekend, and then Ohio State next Wed. in Columbus. In other words, we’re already down to brass tacks in the OOC part of the season.
by El Soro on Nov 24, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Which is a good thing
Gotta build our dancing resume…
by DamonH on Nov 24, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Write Up
Enjoyed the read TC, thanks!
by KnoxNole on Nov 24, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the write-up
I heard Parsons has a lingering injury as well…
FSU will be facing its toughest test offensively, so I wouldnt expect big numbers. But the Noles athleticism should prove to be too much for the Gates to handle. Lets be truthful: When Parsons and Dan the Man are battling for top returning starter, you have issues. 65-55.
by DixieNole on Nov 24, 2009 5:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Beat them
Beat them mercilessly into submission. Beat them until they’ve cried enough to our satisfaction. No quarter will be given. Make them suffer. Burn the O center down.
by Okinole on Nov 24, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WE dressed in ALL BLACK
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chris Singleton
Came to play tonight, gentlemen.
by DamonH on Nov 24, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kitchen had that fast break, F
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why didnt he take it to the rim!
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dulks is off, Tyus hits a long 2-point jumper. I'll give everyone that shot.
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Long 2 point shots=horrible effeciency. All night.
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not prepared for their pressure
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WOW Reid with the horrible pass inbounds
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I dont know much basketball
but just watching the beginning if we cut our mistakes down i dont think they can hang with us
by PJVNolefan on Nov 24, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We do seem very anxious
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UF's shots are all long 2's except for the put-backs
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We have to box out and not just try to rely on our length
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Watching on 360
So I have a time delay – won’t comment too much
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe
That UF has the depth that we do…I could be wrong.
by DamonH on Nov 24, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the announcers are annoying on sunsports tv too
by NorthernHaze on Nov 24, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
In case you didn't know
Guys with long arms can block shots and deflect passes easier
by DamonH on Nov 24, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Soon they'll show speed and height advantages
And then “Shooting advantages”
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Singleton, strokin'
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chris Singleton likes the food network
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
as does SWFLNole
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just a reminder...
live tempo-based stats here…
by jonpyardi on Nov 24, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Solomon is overwhelming on defense
they don’t even want the ball on the same side of the court as him
by truenole87 on Nov 24, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Singleton, still strokin'
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Singleton with another long 3ball. he has all 10 points.
At some point we will need to run our offense
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BS luck shot
we’ll take that all day, he just threw it up
by truenole87 on Nov 24, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We're making some awful passes.
Shouldn’t be this close.
by Drew J Jones on Nov 24, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Snaer can guard Boynton
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We'll be the best competition they've faced all year
if we would just play like it.
by Okinole on Nov 24, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
CUT DOWN THE TURNOVERS KTHX
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Got to cut down on those lazy passes
This could be Singleton’s coming out party
by marlins44 on Nov 24, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
360
use comcast as the isp
username: footballboard
password: warchant
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
10-10 as UF lays it in off the turnover
Loucks terrible job
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"It's almost bonus points"
someone shut these guys up
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We have to have someone who can pass the ball.
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1000
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Loucks is such a liability vs decent teams, but Kitchen isnt much better, quicker at least
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Unbalanced.
D looks pretty good, but the offense is outrageously sloppy and stupid.
by Drew J Jones on Nov 24, 2009 7:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what's up with these announcers did we get the UF home feed
by willdabeast on Nov 24, 2009 7:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How does he get worse every year
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reid looks terrible, terrible, terrible
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Like a bull in a china shop
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL "they are long and deep"
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I laughed too
thats what she said
by NorthernHaze on Nov 24, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this is ridiculous. why so sloppy?
and where is Snaer?
by truenole87 on Nov 24, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
#ReidFail
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
did it go in
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tyus has improved tremendously
tremendously
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Holy God.
I didn’t see the travel there, nor did I on the previous 20 or so.
by Drew J Jones on Nov 24, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This game has taken on a national perspective
So much that ESPN picked it up…Oh wait
by DamonH on Nov 24, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TD was a huge loss
I have caught hell for thinking FSU will be worse this year w/0 him
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Eh, this team is definitely more talented
Hamilton… well we all know he can’t design an offense.
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is a recruiter
but he can’t keep choking his assistants
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Talented, but lacking experience
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
But are talent is underclassman with a center who didnt start playing basketball till high school
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
our*
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How long has it been since FSU has scored?
by DamonH on Nov 24, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did Alabi really miss a dunk, wow
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
NBA ready? :)
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FSU can't break a press
Since when?
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Snaer with the ill-advised cross-court pass to Dulkys
Dulkys feeds Alabi who tried for the highlight dunk and fails. Snaer gets the rebound and is fouled
17-10 TV Timeout
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 7:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
10TOs
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We need to change our diapers.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is good.
If they play the whole game like this, it’ll make the football team almost acceptable on Saturday.
by Drew J Jones on Nov 24, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bucket! Excellent ball movement and after 2 tip int ries it ggoes 17-12
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TO #11
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
YIKES!
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
great camera work
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wanna kill these losers with the pom poms in the front row
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I really hope they fire coach Ham
and let a guy with fundamentals coach this group of talent
Like they did to Zook at UF
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But he is so good at making adjustments
Hve faith Bud
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's an excellent recruiter, but our gameplan always seems like "let's out athlete them."
He got saved by Toney last year.
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's just a recruiter
He’s a cool black guy
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He gets saved every year by someone
Al Thorton?
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The perks of being a good recruiter.
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, we are really POORLY coached
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No true ball handlers=long season
FSU better get used to the press and us fans to the turnovers.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's pretty obvious.
Kitchen has been absolutely horrible as a point guard tonight. He NEEDS to improve as the year goes on if we’re going to compete.
by seminoleballer on Nov 24, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No fundamentals
No passing
No boxing out
Everyone playing street ball
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
CTC Ball
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UF 24 -FSU 12
FSU timeout UF has one shot to go…
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They willeventually get tired from out hustling us…….
by Florida_State on Nov 24, 2009 7:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
NIT here we come!
I knew Jeff Cameron was on the tournament train, I just thought he meant the other tournament.
by jasonole59 on Nov 24, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Overreact much?
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
offense
the halfcourt offense, or lack thereof, is really hard to watch from FSU
by jonpyardi on Nov 24, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Man, we're making some risky passes.
I think I’d get benched if tried those.
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Please Derwin, keep picking up your dribble.
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what the hell
our guard play is just terrible. Nobody is creating off the dribble. Just awful
by truenole87 on Nov 24, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We haven't had a post player get the ball in the paint all game.
And a terrible 3 jacked by loucks
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
at least he didnt turn it over
He is so Andrew Wilson
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least he wont be here 8 years like Wilson
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Balla was open.
Kid’s got swagger.
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Get used to it, we lost TD and its going to be a rough year.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I think we bounce back quicker than you think…
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
But we dont have a point and/or obvious leader on the court. Decent teams will eat us alive with the press and double down low.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
30-14
can’t do anything about that shot
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't someone tell me beforehand
we were going to mail it in so I wouldn’t have trash talked to my gator friends?
by Okinole on Nov 24, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is this a joke?
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see that three? Dude slipped getting him the ball.
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Weve turned the ball over 16 times.
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reid with another turnover
Holy fuck reid is shitty.
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we have crapped our pants......
by Florida_State on Nov 24, 2009 7:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
HOW DO YOU TRAVEL YOU ARE A SENIOR. DRIBBLE THE %^&**)()(IONG BALL
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dribbling and being a senior shouldnt be mutually exclusive
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
32-14
Ryan Reid is lazy getting over
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is a sign
The basketball will play like this today and the football team will come up with the upset Saturday. Obvious.
by truenole87 on Nov 24, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As bad as this is I have a feeling Saturday will be even worse
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This just means the second half we'll be better, right?
I mean we have to.
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
100 things to do to lose this game
we have done 99 of them.
by Okinole on Nov 24, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Alabi with FSU's 1st points by a big man, nice play to get it iinside 32-16
and then UF gets it inside on a screen 34-16
Nice ball movement Derwin pullup is good 34-18
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WHY DOES RYAN REID DRIBBLE SO MUCH?!?!
he’s just a bumbling clumsy dude on offense
by truenole87 on Nov 24, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UF with a big jump shot 36-18
Reid with another turnover
Gators hit a 3 off it, 39-18
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Since when did Werner ever hit a shot?
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
can we just cut that motherfucker ryan reid
terrible work by him
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who would you rather never play another minute for FSU
Reid or Mangum?
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Reid
Football is done with
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ham is gettting OWNED by Billy
Ham gets out coached by everyone who am I kidding
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he always has
He is a fucking idiot. And he needs to let his assistants work
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But
he does recruit well
We can;t get some superstar basketball coach here. It’s not like football or abseball
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe FAM's coach would like pay raise?
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hami is here until 2011-2012. He got an extension last year. Which I questionede but everyone said we HAD to extend him based on the tournament appearance.
by lul on Nov 24, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that Hamilton can watch Reid and keep him in the game should be enough to fire him at half.
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Next possession get it to Reid at the top of the key! That's bound to work!
Seriously WTF are we thinking.
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Do our guys have any fucking PRIDE?
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
haha, seriously
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
39-19 at half
Don’t see Uf shooting that well in the 2nd half
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
39-19 half?
Tell me the buzzer beater was late.
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why on earth is Reid still on there?
Give Terrance Charles some tick, put Xavier Gibson in the game. Anything else is bound to work better than Ryan Reid.
by truenole87 on Nov 24, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I never should have talked smack to my Gator friends. I can hear them already the arrogant bastards.
by 1newplayer on Nov 24, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I said the same thing above
I wish somene would have told me my team wouldn’t give a shit about this game.
by Okinole on Nov 24, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I did not expect this. Our guys look like they have never seen a full court press before. Ryan Reid has to be the worst offensive player in the ACC, and for some reason UF is shooting lights out. I expect that to slow down in the 2nd half, but I think we are too far down to come back. I hope I am wrong, but it looks like we are going to endure 2 ass beatings from UF this week.
by fsunole23 on Nov 24, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side
There’s nothing we can do worse in this game
by Dawg013 on Nov 24, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They have never been taught how to beat
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My liver is lucky I have to be at work in the morning
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Are they taking lessons from the football team?
Lesson #1: Let your opponent score at will
Lesson #2: Look like you have no idea what’s going on
Lesson #3: Be completely undisciplined at everything, look like you haven’t had a second of coaching all year
by seminoleballer on Nov 24, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And to think I thought this was a ACC Championship contender
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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 24, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what else is on tv tuesdays at 8?
I’m not taking suggestions.
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TMNT
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Matrix
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Office
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, obviously
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HEY THE BIGGEST LOSER IS ON!
oh wait, we’re already watching that
by Okinole on Nov 24, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We're playing bad
but does anyone else think floridas getting the calls more?
by Dawg013 on Nov 24, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A little...
But it’s not why we’re down 20. Reid has been hacked alot and they havent callled it.
by smash! on Nov 24, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, Reid has flailed wildly
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course not
We have pathetic play to blame for that. But it just seems like some of the blocking fouls or no calls
by Dawg013 on Nov 24, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Burn every black jersey ever
It is not one of our colors. We should never have to wear them in any sport.
by steveNole on Nov 24, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What is "v", biggest loser, ncis?
Are these real shows?
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lots of ugliness here...
tempo-based stats:
http://www.scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=3637
TO%: 44%
oreb%: 20%
dreb%: 50%
by jonpyardi on Nov 24, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
no way, Northwestern last year
was much much much worse to start out
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Percentages
FSU 38/25/50
UF 53/50/75
Big story is turnovers – that is ugly…
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
not that good
gators aren’t this good. we can beat these doucheholes if we start penetrating the zone, play a little smarter on D.
by rocknrollnole on Nov 24, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Question
It is obvious that Ham doesnt coach, but what about his assistants?
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lets try to
kill florida to make a statement
get a win
keep the game close
make some nice shots
not turn the ball over every time we touch the ball
by Dawg013 on Nov 24, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I bet we play much better
in 2nd half
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
define better?
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know
It’d be hard to play worse
by Dawg013 on Nov 24, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im sure we will
but probably not enough to make up for 20 points
by Dawg013 on Nov 24, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Singleton has outscored the other FSU starters 10-9
Despite picking up two early fouls…
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If we can lose by single digits
I’ll be happy in the end here. UF clearly wanted this more
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we can make a run if we stop the turnovers
We were clearly full of ourselves to start the game
by FtLauderdaleNole on Nov 24, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If UF starts missing shots
They won’t be able to set their press.
If they don’t set their press, we can score.
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can we run our offense through Singleton for a little while and see what happens, plz.
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
SWATTED
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
HOLY HELL
WHAT A BLOCK BY SINGLETON!
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
bad rotation
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
weird there.
Definitely a shot clock issue
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
41-27
Singleton with the block – UF with the hometown shot clock – that’ll shorten the game
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hopefully Leonard uses his to's
when these gator doucheholes make their run
by rocknrollnole on Nov 24, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great drive and Dish by Snaer
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
He needs to see more time.
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Much better with the ball in his hands than Kitchen tonight
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FSU's defense keeping them alive
but we turn it over, 41-29
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
43-31 as we trade buckets
And they call a reach against Derwin. Bullshit
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gibson is crashing hard right now
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And another FSU steal!
6 2nd half steals for FSU already!
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Also, did loucks go between his legs in traffic?
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I cringe everytime i see him on the court
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
SNAERRRRRRRRR
Beautiful feed to demersy!
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Snaer. Can. Pass
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think we're getting back in this.
Actually, I know we are.
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
GREAT HUSTLE REBOUND BY REID LEADS TO A KITCHEN 3!!
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats his role
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Game ON
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm
WOW
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
here we come...
just a matter of time, too much talent. Pride kicked in.
by FtLauderdaleNole on Nov 24, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I bet we play much better
in 2nd half
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by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i switched TV's so you can thank me for the turn around....
by Florida_State on Nov 24, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Laptop died...
HERE’S the FSU team we thought we’d see!!!! We SHOULD be crushing this team
by DamonH on Nov 24, 2009 8:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Snaer needs to be our point guard right now
And Drewin can be the 2 and play defense
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
UF 43 FSU 38
How you like me now!@!!!
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
leonard to billy
HEY BOY! GIVE ME YOUR LUNCH MONEY!
by Okinole on Nov 24, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whoever light the fire under this team's ass
Thank you
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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 24, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Effin' hell.
I turned off my desktop already, and sure enough our guys got it together. Not sure if the little lappy can take the video.
by Drew J Jones on Nov 24, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
43-38
FSU forces their 8th 2nd half takeaway in 8 minutes and it is FSU ball. TV timeout
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wooooooo
fi they win this i think ill pee my pants
by colpo1 on Nov 24, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just under 12 minutes left.....
Lots of time…
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, wow.
That’s a hell of a turnaround in no time flat.
by Drew J Jones on Nov 24, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
#Demercyfail
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Demercy what an idiot.
Selfish, have to give that ball up on the 2-on-1
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Too many white guys on the court
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No worries.
Only a five-yard.
Wait….
by Drew J Jones on Nov 24, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We blow another 2-on-1
That might have been our chance boys
And now Reid fouls maclin
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well I'm back
UF will probably go on a run now.
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
4-0 UF run in about 2 seconds
I’m a curse.
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Talk about a case of Dr.Jekyl and Mr.Jackass
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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 24, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TIMEOUT
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ok im turning this off
Maybe we will score some points now.
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Game turned on those two missed 2 on 1's
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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 24, 2009 8:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Got sloppy again after those two easy fast breaks we missed. Might have given the whole thing back
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Btw, in case anyone is curious
Panthers, Bears, Jags, Chiefs, Dolphins, Raiders, and Eagles will have scouts at the game Saturday
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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 24, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good.
Any of these guys can catch better than Teddy Ginn.
by Drew J Jones on Nov 24, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FTR Kitchen has looked terrible with the ball tonight in decision making circumstances
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Nov 24, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
has ham not learned
over these years, we do not compose well without tos
by rocknrollnole on Nov 24, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Solid Boxout
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
there's the calls you said they'd get, cubbie
by DamonH on Nov 24, 2009 8:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
He got him with the body
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well... I'm hoping for some Thanksgiving magic here.
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Would rather that go towards Saturday
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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 24, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
14
After FSU blows a rebound on a FT
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I see one more 5-10ft one-handed floater
Im going to write some freakin letters.
by NorthernHaze on Nov 24, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Singleton fouled under the hoop
with around 8 min’s left FSU down 14
by CelticPride on Nov 24, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone notice?
FSU was o for 4 with TC’s keys to success?
just giving props. . . we started getting them in the 2nd half now we’re dropping back out
by freshcollegeboy on Nov 24, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
16 seconds left on the shot clock, and he hoists up that long 2?
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No one ever said they were smart
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good, keep fouling.
Put singleton on the line.
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What a killer cheer by the UF fans.
Let’s just repeat someone’s name over and over again.
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let's see a hard foul
I wanna see blood.
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We have officially given up with 5:17 left
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The smallest guy on the court should not drive through 3 defenders in the paint
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
8 feet is being generous
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh my god
stop shooting 3s. this looks like my HS bball team
by NorthernHaze on Nov 24, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what an impressive showing
I’m sure the ACC is trembling at the sight of us.
by Okinole on Nov 24, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is simply Ham's glorious plan to lull them to sleep.
Then we will pounce like tigers!
by treemeister on Nov 24, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What were the other schools that recruited Loucks?
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
His turnover potential
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard we got it back to 5, then I check the score and we are down 15!
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We cut it to 5 and then blew two 2-1's
by FSUncensored on Nov 24, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and 1s?
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
crap down the leg
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mother$%^&* do they need to wave their little pom poms after every bucket or foul?
Some day I will go to a UF b-ball game and knock their fans the hell out.
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love Erving Walker, quickness ya cant teach
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
there is no way UF is this good
The Noles should be ashamed of themselves tonight.
by Okinole on Nov 24, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You are never ashamed when you are that "long and deep"
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes they should be ashamed.
being long means nothing when you don’t get “up” for it
by Okinole on Nov 24, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The team overall probably isn't this good.
The defense might be, though.
With this much youth, though, who knows this early?
by Giant Catfish on Nov 24, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Run someone over
Let out your anger Noles.
by tdchrisdavis on Nov 24, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
UF is just better tonight and any night. Smarter coaches and players.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
fuck you asshole
we should watch a game together then u can tell me how dumb our boys are then i’ll break your fukin elbows to match your fukin knees bitch
by rocknrollnole on Nov 25, 2009 2:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So sad
that Alabi touched the ball MAYBE 6 TIMES. . . AAAAHHHHHH!!!!
by freshcollegeboy on Nov 24, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
so many inappropriate jokes running through my mind
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
by RaysnNoles on Nov 24, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
was Jody Allen and CTC trying to coach tonight
by Florida_State on Nov 24, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
good one
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man this sucks
Just when something at fsu was starting to get exciting, they go crap all over themselves as usual.
by colpo1 on Nov 24, 2009 9:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We will get them next time :/
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 24, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Point Guard?
Y sub when u have 5 scoring/
by bigsand on Nov 24, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i should have just slept this whole week
today till sunday.. Can’t wait to go down south and deal with gaytor nation
by steveNole on Nov 24, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hate to be a debbie downer
but it sucks to be a seminole these days
by colpo1 on Nov 24, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Turning point of the game...
down 5, with the ball on the break DeMercy doesn’t pass, but rather keeps it and gets called for the charge. That should have been an automatic 2 pts, potentially 3- and a 2 or 3 point game. Instead, it completely stopped all our momentum and we never got back in it.
by smash! on Nov 24, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It sure does.
We still have to deal with the massacre that will be Saturday.
by fsunole23 on Nov 24, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Women’s soccer plays in the quater finals Friday. The crocs are already knocked out of that tournament.
by lul on Nov 24, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“They look good getting off the bus”
Loucks to point and more work less swagger perhaps? At times I have know idea what they were trying to do. Apparently they didn’t either.
"I am not now at all sure that the tendency to treat the whole thing as a kind of vast game is really good - certainly not for me who find that kind of thing only too fatally attractive." - J R R Tolkein
by Olbrannon on Nov 24, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hasn't it been in the UF/FSU series
that the school that loses in basketball wins in football a few days later???
Seems like one of those wierd statistics that is true.
Oh well, at least I have the Orlando Magic this year.
by montverdenole on Nov 24, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Come to think of it…we beat them and they won the National Championship couple years back.. Deja vu?
"I am not now at all sure that the tendency to treat the whole thing as a kind of vast game is really good - certainly not for me who find that kind of thing only too fatally attractive." - J R R Tolkein
by Olbrannon on Nov 24, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mother****er
Men’s BB was one of the few things we had better than UF, too.
Ugh, Saturday is gonna be awful
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Seriously, Bobby. Go Away.
by JMB on Nov 24, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
FSU needs to hire an AD that is a ruthless MF'er with ONE DIRECTIVE: BEAT UF AT EVERYTHING!!!
Everything else is just cake.
by Egret on Nov 24, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The sad thing is, we'll beat much better basketball teams this year.
This UF team won’t be very good. We just absolutely could not protect the rock tonight and that caused everything to fall apart.
by smash! on Nov 24, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
sometime at about 4 pm on Saturday
just keep saying ’Serenity Now" Serenity Now" it will all be over soon.
by montverdenole on Nov 24, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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