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Florida State Seminoles Beat Alabama 60 - 51 and Earn Spot In Old Spice Classic Final Versus Marquette

It started out like Seminoles fans hoped it wouldn't but expected it to: pressure from Alabama and lots of early turnovers. But, the defense played strong and Florida State started to get into a rhythm in the late first half when Coach Leonard Hamilton switched to a three guard lineup: Kitchen, Dulkys and Snaer. This change placed more ball handlers on the court, allowing to break the press in a more efficient manner. Despite the adjustment, the Seminoles continued to have a significant size advantage over the smaller Alabama team.

Once the Seminoles settled down, the passing was crisp, the movement off the ball was active and the shots were falling. Deividas Dulkys went 3-6 from behind the arc and hit key baskets and was begging for the ball down the stretch. He had a lot of empty looks at the basket as Alabama attempted to protect the paint as the likes of Kitchen and Snaer penetrated the defense. Dulkys and Singleton hit the key baskets that allowed the Seminoles to go on an early run in the second half from which Alabama couldn't recover.

 

 

Again, you can see the stair case pattern of scoring in the first half. The horizontal periods occurred during turnover heavy periods. The defense kept Alabama's guards in check until Florida State got it's offense rolling. Alabama didn't have a single player in double digit scoring, which is outstanding considering three of their players typically average double digits. The Seminoles only had five recorded blocks, but the big guys down low altered numerous shots through the night. They also out rebounded Alabama 33-27 with 20 defensive rebounds. And as the defense has done all year, it limited Alabama's FG%, shooting only 40% from the floor and 40% from the 3 point line. The Seminoles also showed a good amount of full court pressure. The Crimson tide had an efficiency of 96.2 on 53 possessions, their lowest output of the year.

As you can see from the chart above, it took some time for the Seminoles to get settled and start scoring points. Derwin Kitchen played 35 minutes and scored 8 points. His greatest contribution to the game was his 6 assists with only 1 turnover. There were a couple of questionable decisions in the first half that resulted in turnovers, but overall it was a much improved game. It helped that Dulkys was getting open looks and hitting his shots. Kitchen was patient on offense and found the open man, particularly in the second half. Chris Singleton also had a nice game, playing 34 minutes and scoring 14 points. He was very active on the defensive end has really started to develop into a nice player this year.

Michael Snaer had an outstanding game and the stat sheet will not show his contribution to the game. He played 26 minutes and only scored 4 points with 2 assists and 1 turnover. He played an outstanding game on the defensive end and really showed his commitment to that end of the floor. He also passed the ball extremely well tonight and helped the offense settle in against the pressure from Alabama. He should continue to get more minutes each week. It's unlikely that FSU will use a three guard line up regularly in ACC play, but it is certainly a nice option to go to.

Alabi played limited minutes, scoring 10 points in 20 minutes with 4 blocks and 4 rebounds. He went 4-4 from the line and has only missed one free throw all year. Like the game against Iona, Alabama collapsed hard on Alabi as soon as he got the ball. He still needs to work on establishing his position better in the paint and not bring the ball so low as he makes his turn to the basket. Defensively he was a monster, as expected.

Here is the four factors evaluation for the game:

 

 

The turnover percentage is still too high, but significantly improved. The Seminoles did significantly better in the second half and is likely why it is elevated. The goal should be to have a TO% of less than 20% every night. The shooting was much better and the Seminoles had an offensive efficiency of 113.2. This reflects the great shooting night in a very slow paced game. Additionally, the Seminoles had an assist on 75% of their baskets, reflecting the good ball movement and unselfish play.

This was a good win for the Seminoles. There is still a long way to go in terms of development and tightening up the offense. Fortunately, we were wrong here at Tomahawk Nation with our prediction (Alabama 68 FSU 63). They limited Alabama's opportunities off the turnovers and started to shoot the ball well. The defense continues to lead the way.

The Seminoles now look to Marquette who has played a great tournament thus far, beating Xavier and #15 Michigan. If the Seminoles of the second half show up, it should be a great game. Tune in Sunday night at 7:30pm EST for tip off. The game will be televised on ESPN2.

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New starting lineup?:

Snaer Kitchen Dulkys Singleton Alabi?

by CelticPride on Nov 27, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

re: the 3 guard lineup

I actually think we’ll see it a lot more in the first half of the season that I think people expect as Shannon is still finding his way onto the team, necessitating Singleton play more mins at the 4 that I think most were expecting.

As a result I think we’ll see a good deal of Dulkys and/or Snaer our there when Demercy isn’t effective as the defacto 3. I don’t think there are many teams that will be able to hurt us there as both are big 2s and are about average for a college 3 man these days. So while it may appear that we are going more 3 guard, it may really just be playing Snaer/Dulkys at the 3 and not really changing anything.

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Nov 28, 2009 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

I agree that we will likely see it more before ACC play begins.

It may be coincidence that we saw three teams in a row that like to play the press. However, I have the feeling that we will continue to see a lot of it. Compared to most of our OOC competition, our team is huge and playing someone like Snaer at the 3 and Singleton at the 4 does not put us at a height disadvantage. Our guards are relatively big compared to most collegiate teams. If teams are going to press us early, they will need to go small in order to have the athleticism to play a good press. No problem, go to the three guard line up. In ACC play, the number of athletic big men, who play the 2/3 or 3/4 position is remarkable. So they may be able to play the press without going small. But, it might be a really nice change up for the Noles to go ‘small’ and create some match up problems.

It will be interesting to see what Marquette decides to do. They started a 6’6, 6’6, 6’2, 6’3 6’0 line up against Michigan and only went 3 deep on the bench. They do have a 7’2 freshman and a 6’10 player on their bench. Once again the Noles have a size advanatage. But can Marquette afford to burn their energy playing a full court press playing the 3rd game in 4 days?

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 28, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice progression in guard play the last 2 games. It’s obvious Donovan is an excellent coach and exposed all of our weaknesses. The team is responding well and their confidence is growing.

Yes the 3 guard lineup looked good. As the guard play gets better and they recognise the press earlier expect the FSU guards to play more in a two guard lineup.

The level of competition here in this tournament will be a great stepping stone to the later half of the season. And the level of non-conference play will help us be ready for the ACC.

Lot of growth particularly from Kitchen this last two games. I want to see more of Shannon and Jordan. Jordan played well in a few minutes that were far from meaningless. Shannon is a beast on a leash.

"I am not now at all sure that the tendency to treat the whole thing as a kind of vast game is really good - certainly not for me who find that kind of thing only too fatally attractive." - J R R Tolkein

by Olbrannon on Nov 28, 2009 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

I was there as we got trounced, but we may come back to look at this game as a great disciplining of our players and coaches. He exposed our “bigness” by forcing us to beat them with our guard play, which is admittedly young and mistake-prone. We made that 21-5 run to open the 2nd half primarily through forcing turnovers and offensive finishing with our 3 guards on the court.

We need to get past the need for a dominating 1-2 combo guard (Pickett, Douglas, Thornton (ok, kind of)) and be able to win with team basketball. Duke and UNC get their fair share of amazing guard play, but I just like their team chemistry and team ability to score.

I love our Defense. Snaer lacks that first step agility that guys like Lawson and Douglas displayed, but I am impressed with his consistent efforts at the 2 and 3 position.

Oh please oh please Kitchen…turn into an amazing PG…please please please

by ricobert1 on Nov 28, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

update BB roster Jordan is number ‘0’

"I am not now at all sure that the tendency to treat the whole thing as a kind of vast game is really good - certainly not for me who find that kind of thing only too fatally attractive." - J R R Tolkein

by Olbrannon on Nov 28, 2009 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

So I guess the question is is this repeatable? Certainly that’s something we’ll find out but is this a case of Kitchen getting hot/lucky in his reads? I wasn’t able to watch this game so I don’t know. It’ll be interesting to see how they respond going forward.

Who was Ham taking out for the 3rd guard? I would imagine that Reid sat, which is probably the best decision, but Alabi only got 20 min. Was that because he was not effective or because he isn’t helping on the press as well as other players?

I’m glad to see us beat Abalama and the Marquette game should be a good one. I just hope we can keep it up and grow.

by evenflow58 on Nov 28, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

Is This

going to be the game thread for the FSU – Marquette game?

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

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