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Marquette Golden Eagles at Florida St. Seminoles, Nov 29, 2009 7:30 PM EST



The Seminoles showed signs of life in the second half of the Old Spice Classic Semi-Finals against the Alabama Crimson tide. FSU struggled, once again, with the full court press in the first half to which Coach Hamilton responded with a three guard line up of Derwin Kitchen, Devidias Dulkys and Michael Snaer. It worked. The Seminoles started to distribute the ball and run a crisp offense distributing the ball to the open shooters. Chris Singleton and Dulkys landed a number of big three point shots that helped the Seminoles move into the Old Spice Classic Finals against Marquette. The Golden Eagles upset Xavier and Michigan on their way to this game. This would be a huge lift for this young Seminoles team to defeat the red hot Eagles.

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Game Time: 7:30pm EST

Television: ESPN2 and ESPN360.com

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Get ready for a good one folks. The Seminoles were able to fight through two poor offense performances and battle their way to the Finals of the Old Spice Tournament. During the three games, the defense led the way, limiting opponents to poor shooting efforts, permitting the offense to find a way to win. It wasn't pretty at times, but for those of you who watched the second half of the Alabama game, it seemed as if the lights went back on.

Marquette enters the game with a 6-0 record. The first four games of the Golden Eagles season were against poor opponents: Centenary, Maryland Eastern Shore, Grambling and South Dakota. Many wondered if Marquette would be able to make it through the more difficult half of the bracket in the tournament that included Michigan, Xavier and Creighton. They did so easily, defeating Xavier 71-61 and Michigan 79-65. In those two games they had an eFG% of over 50% and a TO% of less than 20% in each game. They held their opponents to poor shooting percentages.

Here are the four factors evaluations for the Marquette's two games in the tournament:

 

 

 

Marquette struggled on the offensive boards against Xavier but seemed to do much better against Michigan.

Here is the likely starting lineup for Marquete:

F #32 Lazar Hayward 6'6 225 Senior
F #33 Jimmy Butler 6'6 215 Junior
G #1 Darius Johnson-Odom 6'2 200 Sophomore
G #10 David Cubillan 6'0 175 Senior
G #23 Dwight Buycks 6'3 190 Junior

Despite losing two significant senior contributors, this is an experienced team that has post season tournament experience. Notice something about their lineup? They are relatively small in comparison to the Seminoles. Though they do have a 7'2 freshman on their bench. Don't be surprised to see the Golden Eagles play full court press as much as possible in the game as it will likely force the Seminoles to go small. Coach Buzz Williams was able to sit and watch the entire Seminoles game as Marquette played early in the day on Friday. Fortunately for the Seminoles, they are learning how to respond and proved they could play small ball against Alabama. It's still not perfect.

The Seminoles will continue to start: Kitchen, Dulkys, Singleton, Alabi and Reid. Though, look for a quick switch to that three guard lineup if necessary. Singleton is having an outstanding tournament and he should have continued success tonight.

Keys to the Game:

1. Be Patient. Marquette plays physical man to man basketball. Play fast but not rushed and make good decisions.

2. Limit the turnovers. Duh. This will be a theme for the rest of the year.

3. Adjust on the fly. We know that the combination of Kitchen, Dulkys, Snaer, Gibson and Singleton works. The Seminoles will continue to have a huge size advantage with this 'small line up.'

4. Don't let Marquette get out early. The Eagles only use 8 players. This is the 3rd game in 4 days. Tired legs.

This would be a huge win for the Seminoles. They have the opportunity to beat an SEC, Big East and Big Ten team in one season. Let's keep that opportunity alive.

Officials: Announced at game time.

Prediction: Seminoles 73 Eagles 66

Go NOLES!!!

Cheers,

TC

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Thx for the preview TC

I’m curious if they’re a frequent pressing team…

by CelticPride on Nov 29, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh they are.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

After losing to UF in b-ball and football..

…this would really bring my spirits up if FSU can pull a win tonight

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 7:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

An Old Spice Classic championship and a win at Ohio State Wednesday equals a

pretty good nonconference resume, in Big Dance terms, if you asked me.

by GoNolzOhio on Nov 29, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Online link

http://www.justin.tv/bigeasttv

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

8-2 marquettte

hit a 3 off fsu turnover, not looking good so far

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

3rd turnover for FSU

I have a bad feeling about this game

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good idea by Luke

but was a bit out of control.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Alibi gets a block

then Alibi turns it over

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

2 O RBs by Kitchen for our 4 points

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah we need someone to hit a couple of outside shots

to prevent Marquette from just crashing down and giving us no room inside in the post or even for the drive.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

8-4 Marquette with 15:21 to go in the 1st half

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How can Alabi possibly be a first round NBA pick?

he looks terrible with the ball. I mean even for a big man.

by GoNolzOhio on Nov 29, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Doing a good job of getting the D boards right now.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice Alabi is huge on the D end today

making Marquette think every time they are inside

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Dribble Drive by Dulkys

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah, he really rushed that last one also

seems to be pressing as he’s “a shooter” and hasn’t been knocking them down so far this year (at least not with any consistency)

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

11-8 Marquette 11:13 to go

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As long as we keep getting these looks I like our chances

as we look like we can get a very high % of the O boards which will help us in the long run.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very good patience by Marquette on that possession

led to a good decision and 2 FTs

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

2nd mini run of the game by Marquette (had 8 in a row earlier)

now 7 straight

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

seems like we type

“missed layup” a few times each game thus far.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

8 points in 12 minutes.

getting to be a typical Noles offense.

by GoNolzOhio on Nov 29, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Are really going to need to bear down on the FTs today

with us struggling from the field so far.

The FTs could keep us in it early.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

Offense is looking terrible.

by sealclubber on Nov 29, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

down 10

2nd timeout of the game already.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

was hoping not to have to use the 2nd as the next stoppage

is the under 8 tv t.o.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This getting ugly

I hope we can keep it within 10 points at halftime…I don’t see us making a run this half

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and they've all been wide open looks as well

with no one in their face.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

19-9 at the under 8

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

7:09 to be exact

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nice floater by snaer

and we all of a sudden have some momentum

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice floater by Snaer

hope that gives him some confidence and will hit an outside shot or 2 before the half concludes.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

O boards keeping us in the game

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

as Luke put one back

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

huge

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was good also

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they just showed

12 turnovers for fsu so far

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Another rushed pass after picking us the dribble in a bad spot

this time by Dulkys

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

12 turnovers already yikes!

forcing 7 is pretty good, but shouldn’t be returning the favour at an almost 2-1 clip

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mostly man though.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh okay

I just don’t see the point in man right now; they have the speed advantage and we are wearing ourselves out

by Trus1te on Nov 29, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I’d just clog the middle up…force them to become a great shooting team

If the shots don’t fall for them they will wear themselves out mentally playing such hard man on the other side of the floor

by Trus1te on Nov 29, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True enough

But I’m just playing the percentages

Our height advantage works best when we use it for what it is actually worth.

If we need to play a 3-2 then fine…just don’t give up the bucket

by Trus1te on Nov 29, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Like that we're getting more aggressive in going after it on the O boards.

with us struggling on O we really need to hit the glass hard.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Make up call.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Really need to get those FTs

we can really use those points today.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How are there so many Marquette fans there?

It’s in frickin Milwaukee. Our team and fans look docile.

by ricobert1 on Nov 29, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Singleton got baited

need to force that guy who passed up the open 3 to be the man to shoot

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How about the travel there?

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ouch

i want to stop watching now and come back later

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Can't let Johnson-Odom shoot

he’s been the biggest factor for their O

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

13 turnovers.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And while Marquette has been credited with a lot of steals

most of the turnovers were of the unforced variety IMO.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Alabi much?

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Glad Johnson-Odom finally missed

hope he’ll follow his teammates lead in the 2nd half :)

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think all of them were when they put the ball down in the post as well

as they kept thinking that they could dribble when there were 2 or 3 defenders within arm’s length of them/the ball.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

TrueCub

I’ve skipped over every post but what’s your opinion on Coach Ham? I catch roundball games when I can and not impressed with the way our squad plays for the most part. I don’t want to see some of this talent go to waste.

by CSI Nole on Nov 29, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Loaded question. I ran a post last year that looked at player development under Hamilton.

To equate it to football…think Mickey Andrews. We’re going to get outstanding talent, very athletic players and see if we can beat you one on one.

His defense has been outstanding over the years, but he’s all about man to man, very limited zone play or willingness to play the zone.

There is limited variability in the offensive sets. We have great shooters and our assistant coaches are great at coaching how to shoot.

But…we still can’t beat the press…it burned us last year and we still suffer against it.

I think Hamilton is a good coach, not elite. But, I wonder who would want to come to FSU? Clearly FSU thinks he’s great and his NCAA tournament bid earned him a 5 year contract.

We need an assistant who can really coach the offense. As you can see, this is a highly talented team and Hamilton has been able to recruit some sleepers and gems in his time at FSU. We’re very very close. If this team had a true point guard that could consistently handle and distribute the ball with a limited number of turnovers, this team would be outstanding. We’re close, not quite there yet. Could be there in the next few years if Alabi, Snaer and Singleton hang around. Couple of nice additions coming next year.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Before I read your entire post

I had to laugh… I compared him to Andrews as well.

by CSI Nole on Nov 29, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am convinced that Coach Ham would be best as an assistant

And not HC. Everyone expected a win over UF. Watched part of that game and it was obvious that coaching was key. I could be wrong but thats what I took from it.

by CSI Nole on Nov 29, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"Coach the offense"

It just doesn’t make sense to me

They need someone who understands that part of the game…But in my mind it would just be laughable if every time the team went to work on offense some other guy took the podium…

That sort of system would never work

What Hamilton lacks is the Gestalt principle

by Trus1te on Nov 29, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Need to find a way to get Snaer/Dulkys/Demercy

to hit a J or 2 when we are in the 3 G lineup (yes I know Demercy isn’t a G) b/c Luke and Kitchen aren’t really a threat to hit the 3 very often. Maybe we should start to run a bit of a high post/face up with Alabi/Gibson so that we have some room under the basket for Luke/Kitchen to drive/crash the glass.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Box out. Seriously.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

34-22 M

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting to see both Snaer and Dulkys out there to start the 2nd half

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

3rd t.o.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just too tired

Guard play already a limited commodity for us. Can actually say I’m looking forward to conference play. This limits any kind of run in the Tourney, though, not having good guards.

by ricobert1 on Nov 29, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And 1

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good hustle by the D on that possession

to create the steal and fastbreak that Singleton got the and1 on

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great effort by Demercy leads toe the And-1 by Singleton on the other end.

Need to get a good run started here. Hopefully, Marquette will get tired

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not only is the % terrible

but we should be going to the line a lot more than 4 times in the first half (and the 1 miss by Chris in the 2nd half)

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish sports was like american idol

Where we could phone in what we think the coach should do next

by Trus1te on Nov 29, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Demercy.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Luke traps himself in the corner and then throws it away

leads to the semi-break and a good job by Butler to take away the space from Gibson and draw the foul

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Please make these FTs

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

3 by Chris

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

down to 8

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Timeout Marquette

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and 1!

time to step up the FT shooting.

by sealclubber on Nov 29, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We hit 1!!!

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey....a made FT

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

12 Footer by Reid

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

46-41 with 7:15 to go

got ourselves back in the game

hope we have enough to finish it

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yep, big 3 by Kitchen

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Never been a fan of rewarding the O for

jumping into the Defender and bailing them out

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Huge effort to play through

enough though are very tired.

The answer by Kitchen to get it right back to a 2 point spread after Marquette got up 4 again was bigger than huge.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Big block Alabi.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great comeback by our guys.

Demercy has been huge, and Singleton is playing lights out. Lets finish it out though!

by fsunole23 on Nov 29, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Was a huge luxury that we were able to continue that run without Singleton

and were able to rest him for the stretch.

How lucky are we to have the depth that we could go with Alabi and Gibson for the last few mins (before the Alabi re-insertion at about 3:50 to go) and still have the size advantage?

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

55 54 with 1 to go.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice Solomon!

Thats a strong move!

by fsunole23 on Nov 29, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lead as Kitchen licks the 3

and about time that Alabi attacked and not settle.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Last shot...

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

56-55 Marquette, 24.8 to go

our ball at midcourt. We have 1 timeout left (so does Marquette)

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hell yea Solomon.

That’s a way to step up!!!

by fsunole23 on Nov 29, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If we have any D left

lets leave it on the court now……

by Okinole on Nov 29, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

11.9 left FSU up 57-56, we used our last timeout.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

FSU in single bonus

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What’s the negative to Singleton just chucking it down the floor here?

by evenflow58 on Nov 29, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Launch it.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great W

We showed a ton of mental toughness to keep fighting.

by 21nole24 on Nov 29, 2009 9:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice get to hear about what we can't see on TV

always an added bonus on such a long road game.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that game is not on espn?

i thought all the acc-big ten challenge games were televised?

by GoNolzOhio on Nov 29, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I meant what we don't see on tv

it’s on ESPN2

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. On ESPN 2.

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by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

such as sideline interactions

coaches demeanors, reactions during timeout etc.

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We Win! We Win!!!!!

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by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure Old Spice was happy that the game gave both teams a NICE SWEAT!

:)

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Per FSUn
He cannot recruit. He spits on people when he talks and he smells like an old person (literally). Kids don’t remember him as anything but an old man.

hehe

by CSI Nole on Nov 29, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesine Awesine awesome

After sleep-walking through the first half (only making 4 shots) – we looked tired.
We turned a 17 pt deficit around in the second half to win by one

Who did we go to in the last minute (always trailing by 1) even after he had sucked pipe all game
Alabi
Who came through?

Alabi!!!

by CelticPride on Nov 29, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Holy Crap

I missed the 2nd half except the last minute….tuned in at the right time

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Singleton with many points

DeMercy played some big quality minutes (including two phi slamma jammas!)

by CelticPride on Nov 29, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

These guys fought back through moderate exhaustion

You can’t teach that. That’s just spirit; a tournament “X” factor.

Way to go, boys.

by ricobert1 on Nov 29, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

In all honesty

We took a lot of good shots in the first half that I expect us to make on most nights…

by CelticPride on Nov 29, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I thought that (and said as much early in the game) that if we kept getting those shots we’d be fine.

I like that we stuck with what makes our team strong and didn’t just start to take wild shots despite the fact we were down by double digits for seemingly half the game.

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, well over 300 comments

pretty soon TC you’re going have to start doing separate threads for the 1st and 2nd halves (like in football with separate threads for each Q).

:)

Gotto make you happy to see such interest (even if it isn’t with the same volume of posters) in the basketball program growing each game.

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Nov 29, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

CSI

No worries – there’s been no moratorium declared – I’m just suggesting one.

by CelticPride on Nov 29, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am officially a quitter

Turned it off when we were down by 17 and didn’t record the comeback. DOH.

by pbysh on Nov 29, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You can catch it on ESPN360 if you want

Oh, and thanks for the youtube videos. I did that before but the censor police banned my account for some other videos I put up and I lost all of my work.

by samnite on Nov 30, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

time to move on from the big line-up

if it takes three guards to get the perimeter play FSU needs, then so be it.

by DixieNole on Nov 29, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nope, don't move on, but...

Maybe wrinkle it a little bit…. .perhaps start with the smaller lineup, get into the flow of the game, and then bring in the big boys to finish them off. Disappointed that it has to be this way, but Alabi and Gibson (and Shannon) still need some growth before they can play effectively on the floor together.

I still think the key for our team is Snaer’s maturation on the perimeter, though… he clearly has the ability to PUNISH a team that chooses to double down on any of our towers… he just has to settle down and learn to finish. We’re very, very close.

by arrdub on Nov 29, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Snaer is Good..

…and Alabi is a sick defender that swats shots left and right…even if we get to ACC play without losing again, I think we will be in trouble….the talent is there the ball handling is not…we turn the ball over way to much.

by DaveSpates on Nov 29, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am hoping that turnover issue gets corrected prior to ACC play, but I see no evidence that

it will. If I had to take a runner on it, I would agree with you that I think we are going to miss the dance. I hope I am wrong.

by GoNolzOhio on Nov 29, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Either of you cats remember last year's Northwestern game?

We looked awful. Horrible.

Look, we played Florida, who has turned out to be a little bit better than expected (with a single day of practice, whereas they had 3 days off before a home game), and, yeah, we looked pitiful. Since then, we’ve won 3 games in 4 days, right? Including 2 against quality competition in Alabama and Marquette (both beat formerly #15 Michigan).

It’s early in the season. The team will progress. It will be a very, very enjoyable year.

by arrdub on Nov 29, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i do remember that N'western game and it was brutal.

I like your optimism and I sure hope you are right. I mean, it sure is possible that I am overreacting. Its just that some of the turnovers so far this season have looked, well really, REALLY bad.

Then again, I may be making an unfair comparison to a team (last year’s team), that had a future NBA draftee guard on its roster.

by GoNolzOhio on Nov 30, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree that is a weakness.. but development of Snaer is key.

He has the capacity to fix what ails us. Just needs confidence, and by midseason I think he’ll be there. In the meantime, we’ve got enough talent in the front court to beat most teams without any ball handlers.

by arrdub on Nov 30, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We did an awful job last year with turnovers, even in ACC play.

But, the talent in the ACC this year is the front courts…not the back courts. Don’t get me wrong, there are some impressive guards in the ACC, but the talent is in the big men. We have more depth a the guard position than most.

We have to control the turnovers, or it will be a long season. Still hopeful.

www.Tomahawknation.com

by TrueCubbie on Nov 29, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We look horrible

but we continue to win

this seriously is surprising.

by B-rod24 on Nov 29, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

true

we can’t afford to keep having these 18 point first halves though. We turn the ball over at a ridiculously high rate and still cant shoot the 3 well as a team. That will screw us over when we play great teams (like ohio state).

We have a lot to be optimistic about though. Singleton is progressing as expected.

by B-rod24 on Nov 29, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you recall the Wake game last year?

I believe we were down 20+ and came back and won it.
I don’t count our team out ever.

by CelticPride on Nov 30, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we beat wake once in the last two years

and that game was a acc tourny game where we were up most of the game. last year we played wake once and lost by 23.

by B-rod24 on Nov 30, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You may be thinking of the Clemson game where we were down 17 at their place and came back to win

by samnite on Nov 30, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

I was thinking of the Clemson game.
Although it felt all year that we were never completely out of the game – but nor was the opponent.

by CelticPride on Nov 30, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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