Our New Offensive Coordinator
by 1newplayer on Nov 6, 2009 11:17 AM EST
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With all the talk of a new defensive coordinator coming to FSU next year I'm surprised I haven't heard some discussion about the other side of the field. Assuming our best case scenario occurs and Bowden leaves, this also means Fisher would move up relinquishing his duties as OC. Has there been any mention of who might take over offensive duties at Florida State? Will Fisher try and hire someone he doesn't know and who might be candidates for the position outside of Florida State? Will Fisher try and assume both titles head coach and offensive coordinator? Will a new coordinator coming in hinder Ponder next year assuming there is a new playbook? I would love to get some feedback on this situation since it looks as if our coaching staff will be getting a major overhaul next year. And by the way everyone should send Kirby Smart a Xmas card this year.
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Everything I have heard points to Coley calling plays next year
Supposedly he is as bright as Jimbo.
by RaysnNoles on Nov 6, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jinx
RETURN TO DOMINANCE, 2010!!!!
by UnstopaNole99! on Nov 6, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure Coley gets the nod as OC
RETURN TO DOMINANCE, 2010!!!!
by UnstopaNole99! on Nov 6, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
sorry to be late
not sure if I have seen in discussed before on TN, but in other locations I’ve seen what has been mentioned here. Many, many times.
Coley was the OC at his previous program (FIU) and at the high school level before he took a GA position at LSU (then later as an NFL asst under Saban). So he’s qualified — at least under an offensive minded head coach.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Nov 6, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That works for me.
I personally have no reservations about giving JC a shot at calling the plays.
by Scalpemall on Nov 6, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jimbo will still have his fingerprints all over the offense.
And I couldn’t be happier about it.
by MKE Nole on Nov 6, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coley is ready to drop-kick adversity with his cobra commander boots!
I love that guy’s Twitter page
by Pinto on Nov 6, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
New DC
Just saw Tony Dungey in Publix, told him we needed him in Tally.
by MRMAGOO on Nov 6, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He has never coached on the college level
No Thanks
by RaysnNoles on Nov 6, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DB coach at Minnesota in 1980.
But, for all intents and purposes, you are correct.
"The other day I... uh, no, that wasn't me." - Steven Wright
by O-Town Nole on Nov 6, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dungey may be back with the Bucs next season if Radio keeps this up.
by CFCNole on Nov 6, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Soooo he left the incredible Colts and Manning to go back to the miserable Bucs?
Doubt that.
by smash! on Nov 7, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He left the Colts to be closer to his family.
Wanna guess where his family lives year round?
by CFCNole on Nov 7, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know they live in Tampa. But there's no chance he's coaching the Bucs next year.
I don’t think he believes he will coach again, ever… but if he does it won’t be for many years.
by smash! on Nov 8, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would he go there
when they fired him?
by Nole93 on Nov 9, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They fired him because he refused to fire Shula and lack of playoff productivity.
Not because he did not win. Right now the Bucs are looking at 2-14 with Morris, whose honeymoon is over.
Dungy built the Bucs but the perception was he could not win in the playoffs and hence he was canned. He would be welcomed back by the vast majority of Bucs fans in a heartbeat.
If he coaches again it will be in Tampa IMO.
by CFCNole on Nov 9, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That still doesn't answer the question
Why would he come back to the same team/owners that fired him?
by RaysnNoles on Nov 9, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point is that if TD wants back into the NFL IMO it will be with the Bucs.
1st Reply: Soooo he left the incredible Colts and Manning to go back to the miserable Bucs?
My answer: He left the Colts not because he planned on going back to the Bucs, he just wanted to step away from the game. Now that he is back in Tampa with his family and greatly enjoying it (by all accounts) and because the Bucs are bad it makes sense that IF he wants to come back to the NFL it would be here.
2nd Reply: Why would he go there when they fired him?
My answer: That happened many years ago and I think both sides wish they could have worked it out without the firing. The Glazers are not going to splash the cash to hire anyone “Bigger” then TD and Dungy would likely take a discount to coach in Tampa. In addition the Glazers really need some positive PR in Tampa and this would do it. Again, this is all based on him wanting to come back. He may not ever coach again.
Hope this answers your question.
by CFCNole on Nov 10, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are the most succesful OCs at the collegiate level...
QB coaches also or some other position coach.
by revival on Nov 6, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Historically at FSU
I won’t try to remember exact years, and one coach’s name is eluding me but:
70s to early 80s – George Henshaw. Also coached OL for FSU, but before and after coached about every position on offense but QB.
80s to mid 80s -guy was also OL coach. Left to become OL coach at Atlanta Falcons and later at Georgia
One or two season in mid 80s – Art Baker. QB coach as well.
late 80s to 1993 – Brad Scott – coached OL when promoted to OC. Had coached TEs and was RC before being promoted.
1994-2000 – Mark Richt, QB coach
And most remember from there – the WR coach and now the QB coach. For the majority (barely) of his time at FSU, Bowden’s OCs have also coached OL.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Nov 7, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jimbo should stay QB coach
I do believe he has his finger on the pulse of this position.
Many say Cooley is an even better OC than Fisher—I’m just interested in how his play calling will differ from Fisher’s… I love Fisher’s domino approach—no other team executes their offense in the manner we do; its just so interesting to watch the dominoes fall.
But of course—we will have to embrace the changes and enjoy the new deviations.
by Trus1te on Nov 7, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if Coley is named the OC
That does not mean he will be the one calling plays. He might oversee the offensive practices and meetings, but Fisher could still design and call the plays. Other head coaches do it, and have done it successfully.
by nolestuff on Nov 9, 2009 12:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bowden himself did it
throughout his career until about mid-80s. Over time, he’d let the OC do it during mop-up and such. When FSU experimented with the “freeze-option” attack in the mid-80s, he’d let Art Baker, the OC/QB coach he brought in to implement it, call most the plays. When Baker left to become head coach at East Carolina, Brad Scott was promoted to OC, but Bowden initially called the plays again. That lasted about a year. When he finally relinquished the play calling, Bowden said something to the effect that he’d been playing calls so long that the opposition knew what he was going to call before him.
He wasn’t exaggerating on that — I remember being in the stands and shocking my friend Chris by guessing each next FSU play and being right about 85% of the time in games against inferior opponents. Less success when the opposing team was closer to par or arguably better than FSU – I didn’t study the film on the opposing team like the coaches did. But usually by the second half I could get back up to 70% right.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Nov 9, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love that game
I got pretty good at it when Jeffy was calling plays.
by RaysnNoles on Nov 9, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What was really fun
was nailing trick plays. B. Bowden was famous for them, to the point that some weren’t really trick plays when FSU ran them – double reverses, flanker or running back passes, etc. At the time, FSU had an assistant in the booth who’s sole job on game day was to look for opposing defenses overpursuing or otherwise playing in a way making them vulnerable to them. Of course, in the stands you could spot the same things. So you knew when they were coming.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Nov 9, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I cringe every time our offense starts inside our own 3 yard line
I know deep down Bobby is dying to run the Weinke/Snoop play again but this time defense would expect it and something terribly wrong would happen (i.e. QB stands there faking the handoff, gets drilled by a blitzing linebacker, thus rupturing his spleen, the ball is fumbled, we somehow manage to recover for only a safety but let the opposing team score a return touchdown on the free kick.)
by RaysnNoles on Nov 9, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sounds about right
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Nov 10, 2009 2:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I figured Coley was getting the job
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Seriously, Bobby. Go Away.
by JMB on Nov 9, 2009 3:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Coley can have the title but Jimbo calls the shots.
Having Coley the title he can us it for recruting. I was under the idea that there are 2 groups one goes with Jimbo and the other with Coley sore more players get more reps.
All I know is that The next offense coach that comes in has a clue and can recruit with the best of them. Thats what we need more than anything right now on offense more recruits with stars.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
by Desman on Nov 10, 2009 7:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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