FSU @ Clemson 4th Quarter Overflow
by FSUSOM on Nov 7, 2009 10:49 PM EST
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Ugh
These are the times i hate being a fan if fsu football
by FSUSkot on Nov 7, 2009 11:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
Watching this team beat themselves is amazing. If Chris Thompson doesn’t cough that ball up when they had momentum and they take it in for a score the score would have been 24-7 and most likely a dispirited Clemson team. I think Chris just cost himself some carries.
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by DocHoliday2 on Nov 7, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Reed botched reverse didn't help
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Christian Ponder has superpowers
by JMB on Nov 7, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do they even call the reverse when you are up. Run the clock and protect the ball
by marlins44 on Nov 7, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I liked the call…if it works, it goes for a big play. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. That D is good enough where you have to keep them on their toes.
by Miaminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why take the chance when you are up.
I know it has worked for us this season, but when you have JT running well just hand it off
by marlins44 on Nov 7, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If it worked, noone would have thought twice about the call...
just how it goes sometimes. I see what you are saying, but I still think you have to mix it up. When you play it safe, you enter what I like to call the Jeff Bowden zone
by Miaminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The play call was really good....he had one guy to beat and the angle
It actually looked as though it was a bad pitch by CP.
That being said, it seemed as though bert was a little too close on the play…not sure who was running out of his lane. I think CP was pushed a little too far off the line which made the pitch closer than they practiced
by Mr. Tito Carlos on Nov 7, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CT is a true freshman
I know that is not really an excuse, but he is not used to the speed and noise of college ball fully yet.
by nolestuff on Nov 8, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on guy's, It was my hero and your's CP7 that cost us the game
by NoleBerry on Nov 7, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And he’s entitled to have one or two bad games a season. Even Weinke had bad games, Tebow too.
I just hope that tackle he had didn’t hurt his shoulder.
by 38Noles on Nov 7, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True. I think the awards stuff and the media appearances made him a little too overconfident.
One of the picks was attributable to Fortson stopping cold. The rest were on Ponder. NCSt could’ve had 4 picks to. He threw some dangerous passes. Another year with Jimbo will help him (and us).
by NoleLaw on Nov 7, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You cannot blame Ponder
If anything you have to give him props for sucking it up and playing. He should have been resting up for next game, but now, because they ran him out there with hurt ribs, he got a hurt shoulder.
by nolestuff on Nov 8, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he didnt cost us the game
he was one of many players that didnt help us win.
Perspective here is key I think. Look at how many points Clemson scored, that shouldnt have happened.
by Miaminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
all those ints were bad
but you cant blame it soley on cp7, puttin 24 on this clemson d, with a bum back is good enough, why not for once the defense bail him out, instead of the other way around, and hold clemson to a td or 2.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
by jfree on Nov 7, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Our offense dominated the 3rd quarter
And we had the lead with 10 minutes left in the game. Hardly Ponder’s fault we lost
by RaysnNoles on Nov 9, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Christian played terrible tonight no 2 ways about it.
He was due for a bad game, unfortunately he picked the game where our d kept us in it for a while. I’m not off the CP bandwagon, this just shows he is human. Our d just caved at the end and allowed Clemson to run right through us.
by fsunole23 on Nov 7, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not CP7's fault
If we had a competent defense he would not have to press so much. Combine that with some miscues from the underclassmen and we can’t capitalize on Clemson’s mistakes. If Clemson had executed well the game would have been over much earlier. We are a very young team. This is to be expected playing against a team with a bunch of upperclassmen.
by revival on Nov 7, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus...
He is hurt. and hardly practiced this week. I still think hes great…. but now we all know he is human. I was actually kinda nervous there for a few weeks…. Its bad enough the Noles are having a bad year, but robots with laser guided rocket arms from the future…. that’s scary stuff.
by HanzoSteel on Nov 7, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m betting no bowl. Wake is going to be tough. Even worse, Bobby will probably return for another year.
by lul on Nov 7, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If he does he is completely arrogant and selfish.
What will he garner by coming back one more season??! Nothing
by FSUneedsnewleadership! on Nov 7, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How close is he to 400?
Also he would be leaving more on his own terms, which would make him feel better.
by lul on Nov 7, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Make him feel better?
Wow… Lol. That settles it. He stays an our program waits yet another year to make a transition for the future
by FSUneedsnewleadership! on Nov 7, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is a reason why USC, uf, Texas, lsu, and bama are constantly on top.
It’s there recruiting classes are full of 5 and 4 stars, true that some pan out and others are overrated. But as a whole.., the stars matter. Only fsu and uga constantly recruit well and underachieve.
by FSUneedsnewleadership! on Nov 7, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wait I have my timeline mixed up dont I
LEAVE ME ALONE, I have finals around the bend…
by Miaminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We may lose out. I feel we’ll see EJ start next weekend. McDaniel smoked Ponder on that INT and Ponder was hurt to begin w/. Not sure why CP thought he needed to make that tackle.
Ameica, Land of the free and home to the entitled.
by levynole on Nov 7, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ponder is that kind of player but i definitely would have preferred less hustle and more pragmatism.
by 38Noles on Nov 7, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am confused as to why he thought it was a good idea to try and tackle him
Soon as he threw the int the game was over he should have lived to fight another day.
by Legal_Seminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
First off, use the reply button.
They pulled in mostly 3 stars and look at their run in the early 2000s.
by FSUSOM on Nov 7, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously dude?
Early 2000’s they I’d not pull 3 stars… Ed reed… Andre Johnson… Bryant mckinney.., antrelle rolle… Culms
by FSUneedsnewleadership! on Nov 7, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Taylor ring a bell??!
by FSUneedsnewleadership! on Nov 7, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Reed and Taylor were three stars.
Ring a bell?!?!?!
by FSUSOM on Nov 7, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Inspired by Mickey?
Maybe, but I think the play calling changed the performance. We still missed a lot of tackles, so the coaching fundamentals are still lacking. It seemed like we blitzed more and ran more of the robber defense. Did we even have linemen in on 3rd & long?
If the D can continue playing this way and CP7 returns, we might even win when we visit the cow pasture.
by NoleLaw on Nov 7, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mangum was involved in a lot of big plays and not in a positive way.
by Legal_Seminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The defense played adequate for awhile, as good as their probably capable of, but if Clemson doesn’t shoot themselves in the foot so much they probably put up 47-50 points.
I’m proud of their effort though.
by 38Noles on Nov 7, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The defense did not play well. The first quarter maybe, but after this it was the same. They got lucky on Clemson’s kicker sucking.
by lul on Nov 7, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Baby steps...
Comparatively speaking, they played well. Compared to their other games, it doesn’t take much to do that. They are lacking fundamentals, pass rushing DEs, etc. They also have some calls that put guys in mismatches like Smith on Spiller on pass plays. Without a change in personnel and without a change in coaches, tonight is about the best you will see the D play.
If they deliver tonight’s performance and Ponder shows up, we win. Tonight. Against Wake and Maryland. And yes, even the last game of the season when we visit the cow pasture.
by NoleLaw on Nov 7, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll give you 5su and 21 right now against uf.
by FSUncensored on Nov 7, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
&re you lidding?
496 yards, 7.9 per play allowed (w/" kneeldowns)
by FSUncensored on Nov 7, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol true
I almost nailed their uards per play to a damn decimal.
by FSUncensored on Nov 8, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in all seriousness
im puttin huge blame on mangum, he is literally HORRIBLE.
at first i used to laugh at his mess ups, now i literally get angry and wish i could jump him.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
by jfree on Nov 7, 2009 11:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say this about a college kid or any person in general...
…but mangum needs to die in fire
by Pinto on Nov 7, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on man, I hope you dont really mean that.
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by FrankDNole on Nov 7, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course not
but can he fall down a well or something? sail around the world by himself? something…anything but play football
by Pinto on Nov 7, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha i'd perfer just a kidnapping
nothing serious, just a bound and tie up, kept in a closet till the end of the season.
is that too much to ask for?
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
by jfree on Nov 7, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still can't be lieve he is playing
It felt like whenever we gave up a big play White or Magnum were involved.
by marlins44 on Nov 7, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
continuing to put him out there to be ridiculed is punishment enough
He has to know how bad he is
by Miaminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I blame his coach.
We all know how bad he is but Mickey continues to trot that chump out on the field every week. I remember reading he wears a blue jersey in practice so that means he can’t hit.
by Legal_Seminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Mickey was benched by Bryant as a senior and never forgot it? I can’t figure out why he would play such liabilities consistently.
by 38Noles on Nov 7, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is obviously an overstatement,
but Mangum seemed to cost us just about every big play on defense in the second half.
He is always running the wrong way.
by Mr. Tito Carlos on Nov 7, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you mean understatement
that is how it appeared to me, too!
by Pinto on Nov 7, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still laugh at Mangum and all of his mistakes.
Every time the other team has a big play, they show the replay and 22 is always involved somehow.
by fsunole23 on Nov 7, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I was trying to say, I guess
every big play by the other team features a clip of 22 slipping on sod trying to reverse field in the background
by Mr. Tito Carlos on Nov 7, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed as early as the 2nd Q
that Ponder was not stepping into his deep throws and using the big muscles in the back to launch the ball. That’s were his ribs were bruised/cracked last week.
by FiestaNole on Nov 7, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fixed
Manuel will play next no sense banging up Ponder more or there is an ACC title on the line.
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by DocHoliday2 on Nov 7, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to try for the bowl streak, but I’d definitely go to Manuel if Ponder is hurting at all. No sense getting in a Sam Bradford situation to finish 6-6 instead of 4-8.
by 38Noles on Nov 7, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want the bowl streak so we can get the young guys reps
by Legal_Seminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but how do the coaching changes work.
Lets just say we are getting smart or sunseri…does our bowl eligibility affect this transition in any way? I dont think it would since Bama is playing on NYE or later, but its still worth asking.
by Mr. Tito Carlos on Nov 7, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea but maybe we can hire the other assistants
and name one of the interim DC
by Legal_Seminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Last season he wasn’t even right for the bowl game.
by 38Noles on Nov 7, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Kevin Steele called a good game
However I think if our offense didn’t shoot itself in the foot they would have had another monster day.
by Legal_Seminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No doubt about it, losing begets Nole on Nole violence.
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by FrankDNole on Nov 7, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if i saw mangum in person right now there'd be some nole on nole violence
because i’d take my size 15 shoe off and chuck it right at his head.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
by jfree on Nov 7, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’d misjudge your throw and CJ Spiller would catch the shoe for a TD.
by 38Noles on Nov 7, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you Muslim?
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by FrankDNole on Nov 7, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no muslim, but i got a big arm
and im pretty sure a wallop upside his empty head would do some type of self satisfying damage for me.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
by jfree on Nov 7, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice, Dubya showed some instincts at least.
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by FrankDNole on Nov 8, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no doubt about it
he always looks like hes running in wet cement
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
by jfree on Nov 8, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Big Picture
How many of you actually thought we would win? I, for one, did not. That doesn’t mean I didn’t want us to win. The mistakes made by us in this game (on both sides of the ball) show that will still have a long way to go. The quicker we can get there (i.e. making the necessary coaching changes) the better. If we miss a bowl game it is not the end of the world for me. I want the changes made ASAP and I would hope missing a bowl would just be the icing on the cake for this to happen, and hopefully, for Bowden not to return next year.
by Pinto on Nov 7, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just dont like getting my hopes up.
They made them punt on the 1st possession, and I was hooked .If they just would have tanked like I expected from the beginning, I would have been fine.
by Miaminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t expect a win either, in fact I expected about what we got. When we played them close for 45 minutes though I started thinking we had an outside chance to win and would definitely keep it respectable. Then it fell apart.
by 38Noles on Nov 7, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought we would win, like a 35-28 type thing
i geuss the dreamyness of christian fooled me….
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
by jfree on Nov 7, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasnt Clemson w/o both starting cornerbacks for a majority of the second half?
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 7, 2009 11:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes
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by FrankDNole on Nov 7, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 8, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard rumors of teams with actual depth on defense. Mostly thought it was an urban legend though.
by 38Noles on Nov 8, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why did you think it was an "urban legend". You must have missed FSU in the 90s, depth all over the place.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 8, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Playing along.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 8, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That safety for Clemson was saved by football.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 7, 2009 11:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
MODERATORS
Seriously, twenty minutes later, I am still seething. Someone punch wolfbird in the face
by Miaminole on Nov 7, 2009 11:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Like I used to tell my wife and now I tell my fiance ="Don't worry your pretty little head."
On second thought, that sounds pretty gay when you say it to another guy though.
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by FrankDNole on Nov 8, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dustin Hopkins for safety
at least he is a better tackler than Magnum (not saying much)
by marlins44 on Nov 7, 2009 11:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
no kidding!
his form was great on that tackle. Seriously…its like our coaches make players worse.
by Mr. Tito Carlos on Nov 8, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's amazing the highlight of the game was our kicker laying some wood after missing a FG. We are in a sad, sad place.
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by FrankDNole on Nov 8, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget that horrible clock management
Which led to a 58 yard kick
by marlins44 on Nov 8, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
meh...
our D was making some plays in the first half, but most of that was due to terrible playcalling and execution on Clempson’s part. To give credit to us, our D got pressure on a few plays and actually seemed prepared on a few misdirections. But then Chucky got ahold of them and asked why they worried about “assignments” and “lanes.” The rest is history.
I’ll give you that Hopkins’ tackle was the highlight of the second half.
by Mr. Tito Carlos on Nov 8, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Isnt their a story in the Bible or a Fable or something about
a King who built up an empire only to tear it down?
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 8, 2009 12:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
*there
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 8, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As the keeper of the SHINY PRIZE, I would have to go back and read through all the comments on the preview.
If you want it, I will give it you if no one else claims it.
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by FrankDNole on Nov 8, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clemson fans appeared to storm the field
Can you guys believe that nonsense? And ESPN went along with it, Nessler saying this is their “biggest win in awhile.”
A home win over a 4-4 team with the worst defense in the country is your biggest win in awhile?.
by 38Noles on Nov 8, 2009 12:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Plus, neither team is ranked.
But hey it was a great watch if you were not a FSU fan.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 8, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a big win because they have a good shot at going to the ACCCG now. Something Tommy failed to do in his entire career and Dabo is doing in his first full year.
by lul on Nov 8, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With Tommys players no less.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 8, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would be rooting for Clemson.
Paul Johnson needs to be knocked down a peg or two.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
by badknees81 on Nov 8, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The ACC brass is happy. BC/GT was going to be another disaster for them.
by 38Noles on Nov 8, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care as long as Miami isn't there.
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by FrankDNole on Nov 8, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Goodnight, it was fun...
The sun will rise tomorrow, and we are one day closer to Bowden’s last game as coach. I take comfort in that.
by Pinto on Nov 8, 2009 12:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
From the post game comments it appears Ponder has a seperated shoulder and EJ will probably start next week.
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by FrankDNole on Nov 8, 2009 12:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let’s hope 4-8 and a devastating loss @ Florida is enough to force Bowden out this year.
by 38Noles on Nov 8, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
EJ didn't look to ready to play to me.
I know it was only a couple of plays but he looked really uncomfortable. If CP can’t go against UF, it will get out of hand. I’m thinking something like 63-10.
by fsunole23 on Nov 8, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IMO, UF can pretty much get whatever number they want. Urban has no shame, so the only thing holding him back will be injury concerns with Alabama looming.
If they want to, I think 70 or 80 could happen.
by 38Noles on Nov 8, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well that was when the Clemson D could pin their ears back
you cannot judge by that.
by nolestuff on Nov 8, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You realize if CP is out for the rest of the season or even the next few games Bobby will use it as an excuse for not making it to a bowl.
by lul on Nov 8, 2009 12:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he’ll start spinning yarns about some team from the 60s that lost it’s starting QB and missed a bowl game but came back to win it all the next year.
Hopefully 4-8 is just too much for people to stomach.
by 38Noles on Nov 8, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but but he hasn’t had a losing season since his first year. Apparently losing seasons are the only mark of a bad coach. Who knew?
by lul on Nov 8, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mangum is the worst player I have ever seen
When there is a big play against the noles he always seems to have missed an easy tackle or coverage that led to the big play.. Remember the mistackle at the line of scimmage on the winning TD run by BC for instance.
I blame Mickey Andrews since he continues to play Mangum a senior yet over Harley a freshman. Harley could do no worse and will likely play better and at least gain experience for the future
by soflanole on Nov 8, 2009 12:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
FSU's Christian Ponder suffers separated shoulder - EJ Manuel expected to start against Wake
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2009/11/8/1121147/fsus-christian-ponder-suffers#comments
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by FrankDNole on Nov 8, 2009 12:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It just seems so ironic
Not that the D played well, I know they did not, but it surprised me they got as many stops as they did. The ironic thing though is when our D does get stops, like when the team was up by three in the fourth quarter, or when they were trying to keep the team in striking distance during the USF game, that is the rare times the offense fails to sizzle.
I will say I was glad Fisher stayed in attack mode when the offense got the ball back though. Its hindsite now to say the reverse or pass plays were bad..they were good calls, just poorly executed.
by nolestuff on Nov 8, 2009 12:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s really amazing how we always do enough to lose or come close to losing. It’s actually been that way for a few years. Some facet of the game will play just bad enough to lose, but a surprising amount of time the other side of the ball will up their game so our hearts get broken.
by 38Noles on Nov 8, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did any of y'all seriously expect to won the game?
Give up 7.9 per damn play and face an elite defense, yore gonna lose. hHealthy Ponder or not. 490 yards allowed on 64 plays to a slightly better than average offense.
by FSUncensored on Nov 8, 2009 12:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t expect to win but with 10 minutes left I thought we would almost certainly be able to keep it respectable. Then we didn’t, and then Ponder got injured and the small bowl hopes went away.
Pretty rough final 10 minutes.
by 38Noles on Nov 8, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
it was mathematically impossible for us to win. Average offense + great defense>Great offense+piss poor defense.
by Okinole on Nov 8, 2009 12:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
if Ponder had been healthy and there were less offensive turnovers
The team could have won. I know Clemson’s defense should get some credit, but the loss yardage on the reverse, the fumble by Thompson, some of the INTs were just mistakes that Clemson did not even have to force. With the team leading in the 4th, yes I thought they had a chance to win it.
by nolestuff on Nov 8, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let us not forget
The missed tackle by Watson on the 3rd and long, the blown coverage by Kendall Smith, the jumping offside by Mister Alexander on a pick 6, Markus White jumping offiside when the damn TE was just getting the play, CP wasting a minute off the clock before halftime forcing us into a 60 yard FG.
Don’t forget those.
by DamonH on Nov 8, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think its a scheme issue with us I see missed tackles and players getting blown up….we have players on D that shouldnt be here and some that are supposed to be good are just average….
by Fredric on Nov 8, 2009 2:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
hard faught game
I’m happy as hell to pull this one out, usually we shit the bed in primetime
Shakinthesouthland.com-Clemson football analysis
by DrB on Nov 8, 2009 3:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is a bit off topic but I have to ask. It looked to me like some Clemson fans stormed the field after the game, why? lol
by 38Noles on Nov 8, 2009 3:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clemson fans always storm the field after the game
Thats a tradition here. I was never one to run out there, but its our thing around here.
But there was plenty of excitement amongst us to beat our old nemesis at NIGHT on national TV. I realize its a 4-4 team but every win is a big win when you havent won the ACC in 20 frickin years.
Shakinthesouthland.com-Clemson football analysis
by DrB on Nov 8, 2009 3:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait
Not knocking you, but asking a serious question…every game? Like if Army showed up, you would run onto the field? Is there any standard at all?
by Miaminole on Nov 8, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
How many times does every single person on the planet have to ask this question before someone starts to figure it out? Seriously, every damn time we’re on TV, someone brings it up. Every game. In conference, out of conference, FBS, FCS, night game, spring game, you name it. Every game.
The only blip in the whole thing was when some asshole accosted Tom O’Brien after a game with NC State a few years ago. They’ve tried to keep people off for at least a few minutes first, but that doesn’t really work.
by OrangeBritches on Nov 8, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey now fella.
Since the tone of your response wasnt super polite, Im not gonna beat around the bush. I dont care enough about your team to have memorized or looked up how often it rushes the field. Since I saw it THIS time, and had my curiosity piqued, I asked. Maybe if they didnt look like a bunch of idiots, people wouldnt ask every time.
by Miaminole on Nov 8, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can respect that to some degree since we do the same thing in basketball
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Seriously, Bobby. Go Away.
by JMB on Nov 8, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that
C’mon, CU fans. This aint the ’90s. Beating us is no big deal anymore.
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Seriously, Bobby. Go Away.
by JMB on Nov 8, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't help but think
the ending would have been so different had the Reed reverse not been a botch. The Climpson defense was on the ropes bitching at each other and very flustered. We score there and I think that defense would have folded.
by montverdenole on Nov 8, 2009 8:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
hindsight 20/20
imagine if they break on that play…
by Miaminole on Nov 8, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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