Get well Ponder and get em EJ.

We’re not going to make it to 6 wins, so 4 is as good as anything else.

Florida will give us a “set the program back 10 years” sort of beating. Bowden deserves all the jeers the UF fans will give him.

Jus sayin…

He held his ground and the Clemson DB went flying out of bounds.

Always tough to see a key player get injured, I wish him a speedy recovery (just not the Sam Bradford type – hopefully a full recovery).

this sucks

He couldn’t make the throws. FWIW, I think a healthy Ponder would have won this game. It wasn’t like our WRs weren’t getting seperation, He just had to put to much air under the deep balls to get then out there, giving their DBs time to catch up. C’est la vie. I hope he gets better soon…

They did on the next play or play after anyway. Ponder was hurt before that crushing hit from McDaniel but I think that was the one that sealed the end of his season. Clemson punished a lot of FSU players in the second half, lots of big hitting out there.

I also think this ends our season win total, not to say that EJ is not good and could surprise me but I think Wake is a better team and Maryland is a toss up. Florida will crush us and post the stats that will give the savior another Heisman (I think this bugs me the most) I say we abandon the defensive game plan and just practicing our eye gouges in prepartion for Tebow…..because that is just part of the game…right Urban.

I take solice in the fact that this debacle ends now without a bowl and FSU can begin the long journey back to becoming one of the nation’s elite again.

Get well Ponder……Kick ass EJ….and Go Noles

i think i’ve only seen him on the field 3 or 4 times this year.

study, break down film, scout, etc… ask a simple question or two and make an observation;

In the games against what was expected to be superior or equal talent we ALWAYS implode when the pressure is on. The Miami game was winnable, hell… 1st and goal from extra point range… and clock management sucked, we ran around like it was our first game (it was!) and dropped a catchable pass to pull it out in the end.

BC? USF? we should of beat both, supposed talent wise that is, but when it counted there was a lapse in good play execution.

GaTech was a shoot-out and we tit-for-tat’d them until it counted. They found a way.

UNC & NC State were games we should of won. yeah yeah UNC has a good defense. but against who? they probably suffered from some ESPN prime time dreamland syndrome and couldn’t shake it when things got tough.

Clemson… always a bridesmaid. They did everything in their power to give us this game. Ponder did not have to pass for insane numbers last night. After interception #2 I think it was clear downfield passes were risky. We had a chance at 27-24, a good chance. The damned offsides that brought back the interception/TD was killer. I said when that play happened… this is a game changer. not brilliance on my part, but history dictated that would be the result. The defense was decent for 3qtrs. ( I know, 4qtr game) in my opinion, if the offense had of capitalized on some of the gifts we received or at least didn’t turnover the ball 2 of the times we did, ??? maybe the D would of kept the fire in their belly for the whole 4qtrs.

OK… Is this Bobby’s fault? Is this Jimbo’s? or even Ponder? There was things I think in hindsight people would of done different (like Ponder’s attempt at a tackle which will end his season) If Bobby is going to be hung out to dry for things, then the blame should be shared. What exactly would of been different if BB was not on the sidelines last night? All this talk about a new DC and what Jimbo’s stamp will be… maybe, maybe not. I hope and pray that we do not go into a tailspin like Nebraska (the other team of the 90’s)
It seems like blame has to be assigned… like that makes it all make sense. Well, in my humble opinion the blame is the complete lack of heart a large number of the fanbase seems to have and some players who are there for the “glory & exposure” of playing for a bigtime program. I think people need to get it through their head, times they are a changin’. Nebraska, Michigan, Notre Dame (no, they are not back), Tennessee, maybe Oklahoma is going into a lull, hell, how many years was the great ‘Bama in decline? and yes, FSU… maybe this group is just runnin’ with the pack now. It is shameful to see what schedules a Boise St. TCU & Utah plays and they are considered top 5 or 10 programs. In a few years I guarantee you a USC or a Texas or an Ohio St. or LSU will have happen what is happening to us.

These new programs are hungry. They see enough games and boxscores to know anybody can win on a given night. GaTech is having a good run here, but that stupid triple option will get figured out and then they will fall back in the pack. VaTech I believe is ready for some mediocrity, so is JoPa and those N.Lions You watch next weekend against Wake Forest. They have the same record as we do… but they will be poised and hungry. Without Ponder… will we do a USF and start a qb who comes out guns blazin’??? I really doubt it. I fear it will be ugly. Thank God i didn’t commit to the tix somebody down there was holding for me until Monday. I can watch the debacle here at home thank you.

FSU is at a crossroads, more now than 3 or 4 weeks ago or at the start of the season. We had a chance to salvage a season and could of managed a 7-5 tally and 8-5 with a bowl… but, even when a game was gift wrapped by a team that is notorious for doing just that, we folded and looked pitiful in the process. Win 1 for Mick? yeah… we saw what that got us. This team has little heart and that is what hurts. Maybe it will take BB going and a whole new regime to come in and find their legs… but don’t fool yourselves into thinking NEXT YEAR is some big thing coming. In my humble, and uneducated opinion, this will be a Michigan style rebuild and maybe even an Oklahoma or USC job (took 4 or more years to become relevant again) Michigan is a good reference… Rich Rodriguez was considered a genius by many… and he may yet turn them around, but those who foolishly thought THIS was the year… ??? hmmmm and as good of a coordinator as Jimbo may be, he is not proven at running a whole god**** program.

question??? really, what now?

1) For the most part, all the Clemson fans we encountered were pure class… at least before the game. After the game they were virtually all douches, heckling as we made our way to the car. Before, though, they were all very nice and cordial and one group of fans even gave us some food when we asked for directions to the closest food joint.

2) The atmosphere of Death Valley is waaay overhyped. I’ve been hearing about this mythical stadium for so long I figured it’d be the one away game worth going to, but I was seriously disappointed. The running down the hill bit was anticlimactic at best, and the crowd was loud but nothing that should really earn them the reputation they have. They also use their sound system well, pumping in a lot of sound. A few things that were ridiculously corny/bad: They routinely play a “roaring” sound through the system whenever something “good” happens, and it is the most pathetic sound ever. Sounds like they cut the sound out of one of the Jurassic Park movies. AAAARRGH. They also have this hilariously bad video of players superimposed egging the crowd on. It’s one of those things you have to see to appreciate, but man it is bad.

3) No matter what happens at Florida St, I can take solace in the fact FSU doesn’t rush the field when they beat an unranked sub-.500 team at home. Seriously guys, is this as good as it gets for your program? Maybe it’s just bitterness talking, but all my anger at the loss was gone when I saw them rush the field. Maybe it’s a compliment, but I just found it to be a sad commentary on their expectations.

4) Ponder. Man, I guess you all saw this at home, but he really lost this game. And I guess after winning so many games for us it was about time he lost one. The D seemed to do enough to win, but eventually the back was going to break when they kept forcing turnovers and we kept squandering the opportunities away. I know a lot of people are ragging on Mister for the offsides on the pick 6, but I am pretty sure Kyle Parker knew it was offsides so he went for the risky throw. So it’s not really a “game defining” play in my opinion.

All in all, the trip was worth it, but I was left underwhelmed by it all.