Bobby Bowden Retires After 34 years at Florida State
by Bud Elliott on Dec 1, 2009 2:37 PM EST
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PrintWe broke the story yesterday, and now Bobby Bowden has made it official. After a tremendous 34 year career at Florida State, he will lead the Seminoles onto the field for the final time when he coaches FSU in its bowl game, Bowden said in a statement released today. Bowden met with his players before releasing his statement. "It's been a great 34 seasons," Bowden said.
"I'd like to thank my wife Ann and my family for their love and support. There were a lot of nights when I was on the road and not at home at the dinner table. We all know that's part of it.
"I'd also like to thank the coaches and their families who helped build the program into something that is special. You can't have a successful program without players and we have been blessed to have young men who are winners both on and off the field. I want to thank them and their families for committing 4-5 years of their lives to me and to FSU.
"Finally, I'd like to thank the University and FSU fans who have supported the Florida State program. We've got one more game and I look forward to enjoying these next few weeks as the head football coach."
Bowden was named National Coach of the Year six times (1979, 1980, 1991, 1992, 1996 and 1999), and a national award presented by The Fellowship of Christian Athletes bears his name. He led Florida State to national championships in 1993 and again in 1999, the latter being the first team in the history of the Associated Press poll to go wire-to-wire ranked No. 1.
Wetherell, who will retire from the presidency of Florida State when his successor is installed as president -- perhaps within a few months -- said Bowden's "sterling personality and character" personified Florida State University.
"Bobby Bowden is not only one of the most outstanding college football coaches in history but also a great man who you would want as a mentor to your children," Wetherell said.
"Every true Seminole fan appreciates all that he has done in service to the university and all that he has accomplished for its football program -- two national championships, 12 ACC championships, 14 straight seasons among the Associated Press' Top Five, two Heisman Trophy winners and a Rhodes Scholar, induction into the College Football Hall of Fame -- but more than that, he has been an off-the-field mentor to so many young men looking to their future."
Wetherell, who was one of those young men, said he hopes Florida State's Athletics Department will plan a celebration and recognition for Bowden during next year's football season.
In his own tribute to Bowden, Wetherell said:
"Bobby Bowden has served as our head football coach and inspirational `friend-raiser' for more than 30 years. He led our football program to unprecedented success and established it among the nation's elite for many years. He set records of achievement on the field that will probably never be equaled.
"Bobby Bowden contributed in many ways to the overall success and advancement of a young and growing university, and the entire Bowden family is also a major part of this success story.
"I played for Bobby Bowden 45 years ago, when I was a young man, and he was an assistant coach under Bill Peterson.
"The bond between player and coach is strong enough, but our relationship forged even more powerful bonds as we worked hard for the university's advancement. With me and other presidents, Bobby Bowden helped raise public and private dollars to build some of the most impressive athletics facilities in the nation and to bring additional recognition to Florida State's academic achievements.
"Millions of Americans could see the good work and academic contributions of our university through the window of national television --a window that winning football teams provide for their institutions.
"Bobby Bowden, in many ways, became the face of Florida State. It was his sterling personality and character that personified this university. And because his influence was so powerful, we were able to advance far beyond what many of us ever dreamed."
For Florida State's part, they clearly made the right move. They have a duty to provide their players a competent and capable head coach. But how they went about handling the announcement was brutal. Florida State Athletic Director Randy Spetman ran away from reporters and refused to answer any questions regarding the biggest announcement in Florida State history. Instead of owning up to their decision, Spetman and FSU President T.K. Wetherell paraded current players to deal with the media. For their part, Florida State captains Christian Ponder and Dekoda Watson handled the questions well, considering the circumstances. But refusing to take any questions after making this decision is a cowardly and classless move by Spetman and Wetherell. Wetherell won't be around to answer questions in an official capacity for much longer, as he is retiring. And Spetman, long thought to be Wetherell's puppet, might not either.
Bowden is guaranteed $1 million per his contract upon retirement. Details of an additional compensation package are not yet available. Bowden will likely stay on as a fundraiser and visible face of Florida State football, much like John Wooden did at UCLA.
Bowden did not want a press conference and has always stated that he wanted to go quietly, without a farewell tour.
Jimbo Fisher, the reigning ACC Offensive Coordinator of the Year and head coach in waiting (HCIW), will be announced as head coach later this week after wrapping up some recruiting matters. Fisher and FSU have already agreed to a 5-year contract.
Gator Bowl President Rick Catlett on 1010XL radio in Jacksonville this morning said that if Bobby agrees to coach the bowl game, FSU will be playing WVU on January 1st. There may be some issues with ACC bowl rules, however, and at this time it is not known if those will be worked out.
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There was always that lingering fear
in the back of my head that something crazy would go down. sigh Hats off to Coach Bowden for all the good times, and to Coach Fisher for a bright garnet and gold future.
by Rock_and_Nole on Dec 1, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
What’s with the picture? Did he just roll up in his car, yell “I’m out!!”, and then drive away? I hope he did that. I’m going to assume he did.
by evenflow58 on Dec 1, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He just shot the duece and kept it moving.
All the time yelling I’m rich bitch
by osceolafan850 on Dec 1, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
was his blinker on the whole time?
Process > Results
by TBfisherman on Dec 1, 2009 3:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He had a good speach prepared, but inside his head....
I think it went something like this. In all seriousness, his legacy will be cherished, and he will be missed, but nothing gold stays and it is time for him to retire. Thanks for not making this any harder that it had to be. (If you think this couldnt be handled worse, you crazy) Enjoy living a relaxed, carefree life coach, you’ve earned it.
I am Glad
That he is apparently staying on in some fashion, which could make this divorce a little less messy.
by Jturner01 on Dec 1, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Finally....
resolution….
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Swisher Select...on the outside.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Dec 1, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm
No mention of his future role as ’friend’bassador and no wishing good luck to Jimbo…seemed alot like TK man-love for BB, but that’s understandable
http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120109aab.html
Hopefully he’ll do that during Jimbo’s announcement later. For this to completely come full circle I really want to see BB say “this team and our program is in good hands, and we will no doubt be great again with Jimbo Fisher as head coach”
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 1, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions
Noticed that...
Corey Clark reported the ambassador role, but that isn’t mentioned in the statement from the university. So what’s the deal? He’s no longer officially employed with the university?
by KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) on Dec 1, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe now I can get back to remembering him like he was in the 1990s.
Now that this is over I really hope so.
by MattDNole on Dec 1, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
For at least a few more days I can still go after Chuck Amato.
I can only hope for the sake of my writing that Jimbo hires a coach with a speech impediment or something.
O happy days
Well its been a long road with some pains but now we know what is going on we can now look back at what he has done and let him go in a good way. I like how hes going to say around and help out with things. I just hope he dont try to make that into more than it is.
Well JF its your ball. What are you going to do now. There are a ton of options. First things first go get us a good DC, then get some recrutis, and figure out how the hell we are going to beat WVA
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
AND FLORIDA
"as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts."
Once again a great day to be a Nole, and a sad, sad day to be a Nole.
I guess you have to be a certain age to feel this way, but that is the way I feel.
I can now say this without sarcasm,
LET’S WIN THIS BOWL GAME FOR BOBBY
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
by FrankDNole on Dec 1, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No time in the world could prepare that defense for any offense
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
No but a overcrunk bunch of missguided, rag tag, athleticley gifted athletes can do some damange for at least 2 drives.
"as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts."
by FSUvaFan on Dec 1, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Are tickets going to be available or sold out soon?
Seriously thinking about attending this game.
"as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts."
It's all over.
Waiting for Ann to say “Sike” or something.
Bobby, goodbye and God bless.
Oh, and Ann, yes FSU did have the guts.........
by CFCNole on Dec 1, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
haha!
In Ponder We Trust
Pre-Injury Regular Season Stat Projections: 21 TD: 2 Int, 3738 yards, 70 %COMP
Like the way the very end came
Press release was clean and very smart. No chance for weird questions, just a press release to show him as a humble guy ready to ride out into the sunset. Now that he will no longer be responsible for the product on the field we can remember him from the 90s without the present getting in the way.
Dakota and Ponder
Answered questions to the media. My wife was watching, said they did great. I’m sure it will video will be up soon
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 1, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions
Ok I have a problem with this.
It is ridiculous to throw two 23 year olds under the bus and make them do something the old men in charge should be.
Do you honestly think that nothing crazy would have happened if they let him talk to the media?
I think his emotions would get the best of him right now, after the Bowl Game when it has all sunk in and hopefully we beat WVU, he can have his goodbye speech and be carried off the field like he deserves. I imagine he is still pretty upset about the whole situation right now and did not want to let it get the best of him on camera.
I was talking about the President and Athletic Director.
It is ludicrous to make two college kids do your job for you.
that makes more sence.....
Miss understood you. Yea I agree completely that TK and Spetman should be taking questions instead of the players.
TK is almost out the door
And I would expect the same from Spetman. Who knows, maybe a reporter would have chucked a shoe at Spetman while standing behind the podium. :)
Man...this was absolutely ridiculous.
Has to be unprecedented in the world of college sports. Sending players out to announce the retirement of a legendary coach? Look, I wanted Bobby out as bad as anyone but this was just brutal. The entire ordeal, from Smith’s comments to this. What a show and an ugly one. I know Bowden made it difficult with his actions but it has just been handled poorly on both sides. The finishing move? TK and Spetman acting like children leaving it up to players clearly more mature than they are. All well, Christmas came early this year, no matter how bad the packaging is. I’ll take it.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
local news
checked wctv and nothing up yet, so may not be online until 5:00 program
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 1, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s be realistic here who do you think would do a better job of these interviews? I think they made the right choice.
Nice article on Jimbo in St Pete Times
Something to add to the good feelings.
by csfuu on Dec 1, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Very Interesting
All of the FSU-WVU connections are eerie (sp). Forgot about Jimbo growing up in WVa and being pursued for the HC job in 2007.
Can’t wait for the Jimbo era, he has been so professional this year through all of the administrative garbage and done such a great job getting the players prepared. Great days lie ahead…
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 1, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Great story
Wasn’t aware of how much Jimbo loves FSU. Only makes excites me more about the future. Good luck Jimbo
It's sad
reading this and then seeing comments from scorned Bowden fans who have blasted Jimbo as some kind of outsider.
I was scared last night of how this would unfold....
Glad to see the 2 sides depart with good words, at least for now not much bad press can come from how it ended. Lets win this Bowl game for the greatest coach in CFB history. Love ya Bobby, hope you have a wonderful retirement.
It’s really a shame that BB didn’t walk away sooner and that it had to come down to this. The program has been in shambles for too long and it’s beyond sickening to watch the other teams in the state demolish us. Hopefully Jimbo can bring in a top notch defensive coordinator and new staff and get things moving in the right direction. I am glad to see though that TK and the AD put the best interests of the program and the university ahead of Bobby’s.
ESPN IS FUNNY
If they woul read this site they would have known last night that BB was not going to have a press conference. Thank you again FSUn for getting us the news first!
by DJ82585 on Dec 1, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
paul finbaugn (spelling?)
really knows his stuff on OTL
let me fix that for ya...
lol Finebaum really knows nothing else.
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
and as soon as i praise him
he goes and rips jimbo’s ability to coach
FineBoob hate FSU, Hates BB...
hell he probably hates Tallahassee
He was right about one thing
Saying Bobby spoke as if he owned FSU as opposed to worked for FSU.
OTL talking about FSU
Funny how everyone said the media would kill us. ESPN has been incredibly understanding for the most part. They said FSU handled best as could be expected. Finebaum is on now, for some reason. Says it is sad but Bobby gave the impression he owned the school instead of worked for it. Forde says the tipping point was basically the JF debacle and then the whipping by UF when Bobby sounded like he might not come back.
Finebaum
Finebaum says he thinks Jimbo will be an interim coach and it is too hard to follow a legend. Press doesn’t see that the last 9 years have been the coach who had to follow the legend and if Jimbo wins double digit games, which is easier now with so many games, and it will take a while before anyone is tired of Jimbo.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 1, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Schlabah
Or however you spell his name just said that he was told by an Ass. Coach earlier in the year that the problem was too many roosters in the hen house. I really don’t think the press knows how much natural talent FSU has on roster. Quality coaching would have netter us 3+ wins minimum.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 1, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not following a legend...
Bobby 2001-2009 followed a legend.
by Bud Elliott on Dec 1, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
i have always said..
this was the best thing for FSU’s future. Most of the time legends go out somewhat on top and the fanbase never gives the next guy a chance. I know a few things about this sort of thing ;).
"The goal is to be a champion," Saban said. "I didn’t say to win a championship. I just said be a champion. That’s our goal here. That’s what we want to do."- Nick Saban
If you don't mind
more of the Finebaum quotes as you hear them. At work and wish I could watch.
Side note: Although in my 3 years I lived in Bham and listened to Finebaum, I never heard him ever mention FSU or Bowden. So I’m not sure why they’re interviewing him. Because Bowden used to coach at Howard/Samford?
by KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) on Dec 1, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Are those Bama boys going to beat UF this week?
God, I hope so…
FineBoob hates FSU and BB
so I guess now his hate will transfer to Jimbo.
Also, He was a big-time Spurrier glad-hander.
They switched from FSU talk
They went to talking about ND and Kansas. Finebaum is around because ESPN considers him an expert on CFB. He was basing his talk on Fisher on the fact that the guys who followed John Wooden and Bear Bryant sucked. Our situation is different since Fisher and co have been keeping us afloat.
After the break they are going to talk about which down traditional power will be the first to come back up. After last year my money would have been on Michigan but now I don’t know. I would probably bet on us just because of the recruiting footprint. More big time players close to FSU than Michigan, ND, Nebraska or any of the others.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 1, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Finebaum really only knows Alabama and Auburn football and that’s it.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
It's mainly SEC talk
but you’re mostly right. The calls on that show are absolutely priceless.
by KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) on Dec 1, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
I keep looking at that photo and for some reason this keeps popping into my head...
Specifically the :58 second mark…
Looks just like that amateur sketch
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Dec 1, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
So is a DC announcement expected by the end if next week?
And Jimbo as HC press conference before the end of this week?
In Ponder We Trust
Pre-Injury Regular Season Stat Projections: 21 TD: 2 Int, 3738 yards, 70 %COMP
Great job Bud,
You’ve been all over it as usual.
by FtLauderdaleNole on Dec 1, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Just a guess
I would say the rest of the week goes to Bobby. Sometime next week they will officially announce Jimbo as HC. Then after that he will start putting the staff together officially.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 1, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Dekoda Watson
“The only thing that disappoints me is the people that tried to knock him [Bowden] down.”
“If that’s what he had to do, then we have to respect that, that’s what he had to do.”
CFB Live
CFB Live is on now. Dekota saying he was only disappointed in the people who tried to knock Bowden down. Reporter says meeting was very short and emotional. Says school is releasing a video statement by Bowden later today. Players told reporter Bowden was a great father figure and leader.
Talking about Fisher
Says he has to fix the defense and get on top of recruiting. Make FSU a destination for top talent again.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 1, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Even the fat O-lineman is on our side
I usually hate the guy and he is negative on this but he admits FSU had no good options. Either let Bowden keep going and basically lose or force Bowden out and make him look like a failure at the end.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 1, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Mack Brown on now
Talking about how amazing Bowden’s run was and how bad things were right before he got there. Just talking about how great Bowden was until recent years. Focusing on the positive, which is good, and avoiding the negative, which is even better. I was about to complain about having him on until I remembered he played at FSU.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 1, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Herbie on now
Herbie admits that Bowden was already treated differently than other coaches. Says it is sad to see Bowden go but the school had a right to make a decision. Doesn’t matter if Bobby built the program at some point you have to make the decision even if it offends some people. Trevor, the fat guy, says FSU needs to go forward full steam even if people will get offended. If anyone is a Bowden loyalist instead of backing Fisher and the school they need to be let go as soon as possible.
Herbie says Fisher will work harder than his opponents and is a great play caller. Says two biggest things are who will be his DC and how good Fisher can recruit since Urban and Randy are sharing the state with him.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 1, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Herbie finally speaking with some sense.
Trevor too. I’m just glad Mark May and Lou Holtz haven’t weighed in yet. I’m sure we’ll hear from them Thursday.
Man i am at work but wish i could be watching this so bad
spent my whole lunch break in front of the tv, keep the updates coming they are much appreciated.
thanks for the recap
I don’t get all worried what public perception is these days. There’s “real” FSU fans ( people that know what’s happening internally) and then there’s everybody else. Thanks to this site i can be a knowledgeable fan
by Cee on Dec 1, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Thank God
Erik Kuselias isn’t hosting CFL today. He kept going on and on this mourning on 1st and 10 about how FSU should be ashamed of themselves and how they should let Bowden coach until he wanted to leave.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
yah because he went to michigan
and he hates fsu and the longer bowden sticks around the longer we’ll suck
Eric Kuselias is the worst person on ESPN.
Without a doubt. I hate especially when he’s on CFL. I don’t know what he did in his life, but he’s the host. Your opinion is not wanted, Eric.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
Actually he’s one of the smartest. People will listen more to somebody who they disagree with rather than somebody they agree with. People also like to listen to somebody who is wrong so they can here them eat crow. He gets ratings that way, which is why he hosts.
He has to have something on somebody
The guy is a complete and utter douchebag. I think they keep him around, and manage by sticking him wherever they need a gap temp filled. For crying out loud, they stuck him on fantasy sports…
Yeah gotta agree with the general population here.
Saw that idiot this morning and First Take. No dice.
Wofie, I could really give a crap what someone whose avatar says F*ck FSU.
As a matter of fact that violates our profanity rule and until you change it I will hide your post.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
by FrankDNole on Dec 1, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Now only Spetman remains
TK, gone
BB, retired
How long until Spetman is shown the door?
Somebody set us up the Bowden. All your field are belong to us.
soon hopefully....
he is a nice man but he is in over his head more than Jeff Bowden was.
Will this guy be gone?
Who is the guy that is always next to Bobby and handles his head set? I have seen him for several years now, it doesn’t look like his son. Who is it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZT7nYmvp-U&feature=related
The guy is at the 23 second mark.
There was a firefight!!!!
been wondering that same thing for a while now. Aside from keeping up with what’s being said on the headset, I think he fills Bobby in on the score and the name of the QB.
by KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) on Dec 1, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's a new kid.
I don’t know his name, but I met him once. I’m not exactly sure what he does either.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
Defensive Coordinator...
Does anyone know of potential Def. Coordinators that Fisher might be looking to bring in? I haven’t seen any lists of candidates anywhere. Just curious… I doubt after this year that anyone could be promoted from within so I assume he’s going to try to get someone from another school.
lol... tripped me up for a second, but I got it...
thanks for the repost though!
We're getting a black eye
Long time reader, first time poster. This move was definitely needed no doubt. But what disgusts me is the way our administrators are handeling it!!!! We’re already going to get torn apart by the drive-by sports media, but for our fearless leaders to be running from press conferences and reporters after an announcement of this magnitude is surreal. MAN UP and ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
FSUn…an off the wall question but, how has the retirement affected the site in terms of new memberships
Huge!
I become a member of the site yesterday and I’m not even a FSU fan. I am a college football fan and have always respected and admired Coach Bowden and the FSU program. Of course I only started following FSU after the Niners drafted Dexter Carter and William “Bar None” Floyd in the early 90’s. ;-)
/loved Bar None on the Niners
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
As a fellow Niner fan...
welcome aboard! My Christmas list:
1. Get the Noles back to their 90s form
2. Get the Niners back to their 80s form.
In that order.
Fisher as head coach will help the first item on that list at least.
Alex Smith looked good against Jax
Or maybe Jax looked bad against Smith.
Either way, I’m rooting for him. No particular reason why. None at all. :)
40 new since we made that fanshot saying it was not Bobby's choice
And we’re going to have 30K visitors in 2 days.
I also joined to because I enjoy your writing.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Dec 1, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We've enjoyed you over the last day 49er
look forward to your contributions to CFB convo’s in the future!
I joined because Bud was on ACC Nation podcast a little over a year ago
It was called “Beat the blogger segment” and they had Bud on to talk FSU and make ACC picks for that week. I was so impressed with his knowledge I had to check out his site. This is a first class blog and while there other good FSU blogs out there this one sets the standard. Bud, True Cubbie , and everyone else who contributes makes this a great experience.
By the way Bud, I was the listener who made picks against you. Out of enormous respect for you I won’t say who won. ;-)
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
by Okinole on Dec 1, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hey! I remember that!
And my picks sucked for that weekend. You rocked me. I think I went 3-5 at best.
LOL, you snitched on yourself.
But you are about the truth and that’s what makes it great here. Patrick and Jim ran a great blog and podcast but they had to quit a few weeks later for family issues.
I went 5-3 and took Wake over the Noles. Don’t worry, you’ve been right about the big things since them.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Our long journey through
the darkness is over! Praise God!
Today has been a disaster.
How is it that the only people answering question at Doak have been CP and Dekoda Watson? I agree with the decision but the university messed up today.
Exactly
Its like a little kid hiding in the closet because hes afraid to admit he spilled the milk in the kitchen
getting a player’s response is pretty common though (remember the James Davis tears after Tommy Bowden), but this wasn’t a firing, so a statement by TK or Spetman would have been appropriate.
dont get me wrong
i have no problem with players answering questions, heck they could cancel practice one day and have all the players answer questions for all i care. But to not have the head honchos out there discussing this with the public makes it seem like we did something wrong and we’re afriad to admit it (ie tiger woods).
I think it's more to place the focus on Bobby and to make it look like HIS decision.
Any involvement by Spetman/Wetherell would look fishy IMO
It’s fine for TK and Spetman to not speak since Bobby asked that they not but it’s inexcusable for them to trot out Ponder and Watson to answer the questions that the press is going to ask. Just don’t have them speak. I’m sure the press can call them if they’d like or speak to them at practice. Just another black eye in the long list for this FSU administration.
FSU definitely looks bad from an outsider’s point of view.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
What else is new
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
What about the state troopers?
Through Bobby’s time at FSU, he has had only 2 state troopers by his side for security, and one for the last almost 20 years. Hope that guy doesn’t have to go back to traffic duty.
That guy was FHP Auxiliary.
Billy has made quite a bit of money over the years doing other things. He will be fine.
BTW I just saw some of ESPN's coverage.
They ended the piece with this nugget: Since 2001 the highest FSU has finished in the AP poll at the end of the season is 11th.
Watched BB's video announcement on the Official FSU site...
Hope he is as at peace about it as he seems and it was a classy move for him to say he will be cheering for Jimbo Fisher and the team next year.
Hopefully time will heal some of these wounds (on both sides).
Here is the link to the video (3:55)
http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/fsu-m-footbl-body.html
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i hate the media
jay mariotti and woody paige are too stupid to come in out of the rain
they’re so ignorant its not even worth discussing
by 000111 on Dec 1, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Not as bad as Kornholer
“Before Bobby Bowden, there WAS no FSU”.
The past is the past. This move had to be made to save our future.
What does that statement even mean?
I mean does it mean that after Bowden there should be no FSU either? What the hell? They will honestly never get it. There are still kids on this team that deserve to play for a more functional program, fans that root for wins and not past glory. I suppose now that Bowden has retired we should just demolish the program and start over in 10 years? These people need to get bent and that includes in FSU “fan” that comes with that same idiotic argument. Wanting all of us to sit idly by while the gap between us and our biggest rival continues to widen all so we can appease their perception of who Bowden is and pay back some imaginary debt we have to him. Like I said, the legend will never be forgotten but this non-sense gets under my skin.
BB & FSU did each other a favor
BB by retiring. FSU by letting him know it was time rather than allowing him to sink further, chalk up losing seasons and break the bowl streak. He’s not going out as a NC winner, but he’s not going out a loser either.
ESPN Classic is all Bowden today
Per Heather D’s ACC Blog…
http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/7287/espn-classic-tribute-to-bowden-today
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I'm watching the 94 Orange Bowl win over Nebraska
and Bobby is being interviewed by…OJ Simpson.
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by Curtain Jerker on Dec 1, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Don't confuse them with facts
They will just allege that we live in the reality-based community.
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by Curtain Jerker on Dec 1, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe thats how I can contribute more on this site
stamping out incorrect statements with very simple stats so those who are much more gifted can spend their time on more features.
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nothing wrong with makin a livin out of pickin low-hangin fruit
that’s how my PhD is shaping up right now
Can you produce that graphic with:
1) TD frequency per red zone appearance by team
2) TD:FG ratio by team
While I appreciate our ability to score when in the red zone, part of that is because of the large # of attempts.
I would kill for the Jags to have that kind of red zone effeciency
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 1, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Here is the transcript of his video.
He starts by saying:
"Nothing lasts forever, does it? But I’ve had some wonderful years here at Florida State, you know it. Hadn’t done as good lately as I wish I could have, but I’ve had wonderful years, no regrets."Q: Looking back over the past 34 years, is there any game or player that you will remember?:
"There are so many players, I’d really hate to start mentioning them all. There’s been so many great players through our program. I’ve had quite a few calls today from them, who’s gotten wind of this. And then somebody says, ‘any great game?’ Well, they’re all great. Well there were some pretty dadgum big ones. We won our share, we didn’t win them all, but we did win our share."Q: I know you would have liked to have gone out with a NC trophy, Are you going to coach in the bowl game:
"I’ll coach until the bowl game. I think my contract is good until the fourth of January and so I’ll coach until the bowl. I met our players today at 2:15, told them and then we made a release. So it’s not like I’m telling them goodbye because I’ll be with them now until the bowl game."Q: Are you in a good state of mind?:
"You know something like this is going to happen. If it didn’t happen now it would be happening this time next year, but it’s happening now. As long as my family is happy, that’s the main thing. So I’ll go out and make a lot of talks now and tell everybody how good I was."Q: Was the decision a contentious or adversarial decision?
"No it was not, it was a case of the president (T.K. Wetherell) coming down to see me and talking. He and I had met earlier in the year and we said we’ll sit, after the season we’d sit and discuss it. Very amiable. I told him I’d go home and talk to Ann and decide what I ought to do, and so that’s what I’ve done."Q: The HCIW received praise and criticism, Have you talked to Jimbo?
"I talked to Jimbo (Fisher) yesterday and told him what I was going to do, you know? And wish him luck and I’ll do anything I can to help him and Florida State. I’ll just be pulling so hard for Florida State, especially these boys next year."Q: What has your family meant since the start of your career?
"Well, you know, when you do something like this, you wonder how it will affect your family because they are all worried about their old man. They don’t have to worry about me. Of course I want them to be happy. We’re going to be happy. Now, you know I have to go out and get a job? Can you believe that? I’ve got to go get a job. I ain’t had a job in 55 years. But Ann and I will get a chance to spend a little bit more time together. Of course I want to go out and speak. Speak to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes and different churches invite me and things like that. I think maybe I can do some good there."Q: Your wife Ann has been a head coach’s wife for 60 years:
"It’s tough on her. You know because I’m gone so dadgum much. I mean, I remember when our boys were coming up and all of them were playing football, I’d be out 100 miles down the road looking at someone else’s son, you know? I regretted that. I wish I could watch my own boys play, you know? But Ann held everything together when I was on the road, did a tremendous job. Any success that my teams have had is because of my teams, and my coaches, and my family’s support."
Here is the link to the video interview
http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/fsu-m-footbl-body.html
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Bobby Bowden
Is the man haha I love him man
hey does
anyone know where i can find that picture with bobby bowden and hes got those 10 rings on his hands
go to the boards at scout.com (noledigest)
And find a thread with “xfactor”…it’s his sig.
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
what about cleaning house?
HCIW was a mistake. JF isn’t very inspiring. You should clean house and start over. a successful football program would recover the $5M you’d pay JF. i guess I heard it’s a little too late for that now.
B-bye to king Bobby. I hope something goes your way in your last game as HC. Then again, maybe not.
To the contrary
JF is very, very inspiring. He has made this offense an elite unit (top 10 in the country) after having to clean up JB’s mess. He made Christian Ponder into one of the best quarterbacks in the nation after Bowden called him a “program guy.” He modernized practices, absolutely cleaned up in recruiting, and did all of this while being subverted by people within the program. We’re in good hands.
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CP is a natural talent
Ponder should have been a great QB. JF is tainted. Wait until next season when BB harasses his lapdog with his one up attitude. You need new leadership that wont take BB’s BS.
How long do you predict it will take JF to rebuild the program?
CP is a natural talent?
Did you watch FSU last season when he threw more picks than TD’s against FBS opponents? I give Jimbo 2 to 3 years. He already has the offense in good shape.
JF is tainted? What does that mean?
He also made Jamarcus Russell the number one pick. Jimbo is not Bobby’s lapdog, I can assure you of that.
As to how long it will take, that’s a good question. The defensive hires we’re about to make will be huge in determining that. So will the recruits we’re able to pull in these next few months before NSD. The next two-ish months are arguably the most important in the modern history of our football program.
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Wait, who will Bobby be harassing?
CP a natural talent? He was a 3* coming out and Bowden said he was a “program guy” who had a scholarship because of his dad.
Will king Bobby be vacating his HC office
Hope he doesn’t cross paths with his successor. Like I said, just a gut check but Bobby will always be heralded by the status quo. FSU wants change. You’re sorta getting change.
Fisher is 0-0 as ahead coach
He will have a 5-year contract. This program is a lot worse off than you think. I want to win out division in 3 of those years. I think that is a reasonable goal.
And what do you mean by rebuild the program? FSU won’t be competing for national championships on a yearly basis no matter the coach.
No dog in this fight.
I would like to see FSU come back to the national picture. However, as long as we’re lowering the bar maybe FSU could be a patsy team for UF to save for a real coach.
If you have no dog in this fight
Then you are more than likely oblivious to anything involved with FSU football in the last decade.
Do some homework before you run your mouth like an uninformed trolling hack
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
I think once every 3 years is likely
But if you are doing that you are technically competing on a yearly basis because your status as a program never disappears.
However, Bud, I will fervently disagree with you on this point. As Notre Dame proves, money ain’t everything.
USC sucked very hard for a while
UCLA has a very active athletic department.
I don’t know the monetary figures there—so not a good argument. But it FEELS like USC should have never come back or UCLA should have never gone away.
Why isn't Fisher inspiring?
I suggest you read this.
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2009/11/23/1170020/florida-state-smashes-encouraging
I've read that article
On the flip side maybe that just says JB is a putz like his dumba$$ father. The fleecing is over, FSU has to go back to the proverbial drawing board. I look forward to next year when the picture is a little clearer.
Wait
it also shows his performance against all 11 other teams…
He produced the best offense since Pro Bowler Phillip Rivers was a senior…
There is a part of me that wonders if Fisher is the right guy for the job, but you will never know until he is finally the head coach.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
I suppose you think Chris Rix was a natural talent too?
We have lots of talent on D, but what are they doing?
Natural talent will only go so far. When you get to this level, you need talent and coaching.
A great offensive coordinator doesn’t necessarily equal a great head coach, but he deserves a chance to coach the Noles with a staff of his choice.
Very bittersweet day for me...
jacked about the program moving forward but sad day so see coach bowden retire.
Saban and Meyer were not available for Head Coach in Waiting jobs.
I think we got the right guy. As long as he puts good people in place to coach the D, we will be fine.
Because Zook sucks as a head coach. You don’t know what you have in Jimbo Fisher yet.
I live on the West Coast and watched Oregon do the whole head coaching in waiting thing. They also promoted a young offensive coordinator named Chip Kelly as their head coach. And look at Oregon today. On Thursday they are playing for the Pac-10 Championship and a possible birth in the Rose Bowl.
So give Fisher a chance. If things aren’t working out by year three or four and FSU hasn’t improved, then I agree he should go.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
My intentions are real
I hope you don’t waste another half a decade trying to decide if JF’s your man.
I respectfully disagree
As someone else here said: he has his own statue, the field he trots around on is named after him. He’s a legend!!! JF is about 3rd in line to the HC title. King Bobby built a dynasty with him at the top and didn’t want to let go. I fear all that power and loyalty from the assistant HC’s, boosters, staff, friends, family, players, waterboys/girls won’t go away overnight.. Did Chip Kelly follow a legend?
His point isn't that Bowden himself isn't a legend
It’s that the Bowden of ‘01-’09 is not a tough act to follow performance-wise
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You're out of touch
with informed and avid FSU fans and Florida State football. Many have wanted Bowden gone for years and many have followed Jimbo and lauded his success. Yes, success. What he has done with the Offense has been miraculous. The defense is so bad, that it can only improve.
To follow your line, you certainly must expect Jimbo to fail. I don’t know how you look at next season and project a 6-6 or worse season. Jimbo’s offense will be back. Most of the D will be back too, only they will be a year older and bigger and faster and will have coaches.
We will most certainly improve next year. If Jimbo is not getting the job done in 4-5 years, I highly doubt that we will cling to him like a legend.
Out of curiosity, who do you see as a proven head coach that would come in and be a replacement “legend”? And what other HC would justify paying Jimbo $5M to leave, considering how Jimbo has the offense in the top 5 in the country with a bunch of 3* underclassmen?
All the asst HC will be gone. boosters helped dethrone him, players did not know him, family is irrelevant, friends don't have a voice, staff can be replaced, waterboys/girls-now I understand you don't have a clue and are just a baiter with nothing to do.
I can’t believe I let you suck me in and that I even took this much time responding to your nonsense.
But listen, thanks for joining anyway to post your thoughts and opinions.
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I'll be disrespectful
GTF out.
Your inability to combat quantitative data with your own quantitative date tells me you are an incompetent hack and that you need to leave.
Go run for congress you flugy
Gator Bowl....
When will that be finalized/announced? I’m more interested in that now. I like the idea of screwing clemson out of that bowl this year if it all plays out that way.
Go Noles!!!
J-ville
Thinking about going as that will one big par-tay/celebration of the good years…and the new good years ahead.
A serious fan of the Garnet & Gold.
I'll have to tell the wife.
Last year she got us tix to the Champs bowl for a xmas present. She called me tonight to ask if I had heard about Bowden’s retirement. I had to explain I am still at work due to following the coverage and a huge memo I need to have done by the morning.
Finally
After reading these blogs for a while, I finally decided to sign up and comment. This site has been great for all my Nole info. I’m 25 yrs old and Bobby is all I have known. In NY, FSU is something people don’t know about but I bleed garnet and gold and can not wait for Jimbo to take over and bring the talent out of the team I love!
by NyNole13 on Dec 1, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Searching online for the Gator Bowl info turns up
a few petitions from other teams trying to get their team over FSU.
Go Noles!!!
Bobby leaving
It is sad that it had to come to this; the administration giving BB no other option. But during the last 10 years, BB has shown that he only does the right thing when it is the only thing he can do. Jeff Bowden as OC was a good example; he could see Jeff was not qualified (of course when Rix played well you didnt hear criticism of Jeff). Jimbo Fisher as the OC/HCIW was the right thing; but it only happened when BB was told he had to accept it to save his job. To paraphrase TN, BB was a victim of his own success; and his eventual failure to live up to his own success. Charlie Weis/ND over the past 5 years had virtually the same record as us, but he was FIRED; not allowed to resign/retire. No other coach with BBs record would get the consideration he got. It is unbelievable how far the program had to deteriorate before BB was forced to do the right thing. Everybody assumed BB would do the right thing; but it’s only natural for someone who works on a field that is named after him; and can see a statue named after him every day at work (Michael Jordan didn’t get a statue in his honor until he retired; Vince Lombardi didnt get a statue in his honor until he had been DEAD for more than 20 years) to want to hold on as long as he can. The university enabled BBs behavior. The university took a hands-off approach to this situation until the car was out of control, careening toward a ditch (a loss to USF; a near loss to something called a Jax St., etc.). This allowed BB to be defensive over his team’s slowly declining production; and to take personally constructive criticism that was offered.
Well, we can now take the bags off our heads and not be ashamed to wear FSU gear anymore (I know Im gettin one of those cool sideline coaches hats for xmas ). Let’s just hope that in the future the university does the right thing; and not wait until it’s the only thing to do.
Old School Nole
by chokeindoak on Dec 1, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This is the message that uninformed, unattached America should hear
Not that asinine drivel from Mark May and company.
I agree with most you say except for one thing; the careening car in fact crashed into the ditch (2006), veered back onto the roadway, partially righted itself (Jimbo/Trickett), then lost the backend again and went into the woods after crossing the median (2009).
by The K-Man on Dec 1, 2009 9:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
who was driving that car?
carlos dunlap?
by B-rod24 on Dec 1, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
1010 XL (Jacksonville)...
…had several former players call in tonight, mostly no namers. One caller named Marcus called in to say how important Bobby was to his players. The host asked at the end who he was, turns out it was the Rooster, Marcus Outzen. I’ll always remember that win against UF.
Another caller talked about kids he grew up with like Leroy Butler and Edgar Bennett and how they grew into men while some of their peers here in Jacksonville lost the battle in the streets. Pretty powerful calls. I am glad we are moving on, but the mess of the past several years will never tarnish Bobby’s legacy…
I live in Tampa Bay Bucs country
So I got to meet Derrick Brooks, Warrick Dunn, Brad Johnson, Deion Sanders, and others. All of them are class individuals. It’s a tribute to BBs attempts to recruit good individuals, not just good football players.
Old School Nole
Time to let JF bring us back to the top!
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Thanks for the memories, Bobby Bowden
well - it's 5 years overdue - but better now than never
Thanks for the nat’l Championships and building the program to a national power – a pox on you for tearing this program down during the lost decade and being more concerned with using FSU as your family’s personal unemployment fund. Don’t let the door knob hit you.
Next Dc
Wrote this on November 5th…
I personally believe the signs point to Alabama’s Kirby Smart as FSU’s Next DC. Why Smart?
1. More money at FSU (5 or 600K)
2. Connections to Tallahassee and his family is nearby (Smart’s parents live in South Georgia, just a stone’s throw from Tallahassee).
3. Smart coached at Florida State and loved it, reportedly.
4. Chance to mold the defense in his own image— total autonomy and schematic freedom.
5. And with that autonomy, the chance to get credit for doing so and turning around one of the bottom 30 defenses in the country. No matter what, Bama’s defense will always be Saban’s.
6. Not having to work for Nick Saban (Guys want to work for Saban only long enough to learn all he has to teach, then they get out. He’s terrible to work for and treats his guys like crap. Also, families of Saban’s coaches typically don’t enjoy it.) Fisher could be slightly less insane than Saban and still be effective.
7. Quicker path to a head coaching job. Saban has not done a good job of promoting his assistants for head coaching positions. Smart would have to know that if he turns FSU’s defense around (likely, given the current cluster that is the defensive staff), he’d be one of the hottest commodities in the country, especially given that he learned from two organizational masters.
Other ties I won’t delve into.
No matter who it is, the next DC will be of the Saban defensive mold. There isn’t a defensive system that is close when it comes to the college game.
So I predict that there will be big changes in less than a month, and those changes will be known to the public. If I had to say it right now, I’d say Kirby Smart in, Bobby Bowden out.
1 prediction down, one to go…
i know some are saying Sunseri
What are the odds that’s one of those 2 guys and not some other random dude?
[Warchant]
Considering your BB prediction, your size-matters defense prediction, and being that you are in Alabama, this prediction lifts my day more than Bowden’s retirement.
Still good news
Hopefully it’s a little higher now that it is officially clear who will have the reigns over the Noles and the authority to get rid of CTC & Co.
Either one I will be happy with
Both have the pedigree and positional coaching abilities we need.
Having said that, do you see Jimbo replacing Carter with an RB coach? I ask because I would wonder if Trickett might “adopt” that position. I know Tricky Rick has a GA who could theoretically “manage” the OL and let Trick bounce between the groups?
Either...
Smart or Sunseri would/will do a fine job. Can’t wait for the “chucking” of Amato and the hiring of some new energy. Sigh Just to think how we’d have been this season w/ simply an adequate D. Of course, we may look back on this crap being a positive thing for our future.
Stay classy, Tallahassee!
Anyone watching the NC games on Classic right now?
Even in 1993 our defense looked 10 times bigger than it does now
Our defense in that Sugar Bowl against Florida was amazing. We must have pressured Wuerffel on 80% of his dropbacks. A real tribute to Mickey along with Bowden.
At halftime of the Nebraska game I was struck by how different Bowden’s comments were from the ones today. He actually analyzed the offensive performance instead of vague cliches.
Yep
I’d forgotton two things: 1. How great the D was and 2. How ugly fashion was. Did you see Osborne’s coat?
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by Curtain Jerker on Dec 1, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
They are now showing the Sugar Bowl win vs VT
I remember being terrified of Vick for two weeks leading up to the game.
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by Curtain Jerker on Dec 1, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Thankfully the oles built up a decent lead early.
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by Curtain Jerker on Dec 1, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Media coverage and a graceful exit
Some might critcize the “force out” of Bowden and the way this was handled with Smith’s comments and the absence of TK & Spetman.
The media has two ways it can dominate the coverage: (1) honor Bowden or (2) trash FSU for lack of loyalty or some such crap.
Smith’s comments helped the pressure mount. Someone had to have the balls to publicly say what many were thinking. Someone had to be the first to put it out there and give others the chance to say it’s him, not me. Then the fans and boosters joined with record low attendence and $ withheld. That pressure helped the admin. get the balls enough to present Bobby with the options that led to HIS decision. That’s right, Bowden was the Decider.
And thank God, he made the right decision. He can still go out a winner. He can still go out with the bowl streak in tact. He is lucky. If EJ had not engineered the comeback against MD or if we had lost to Jax St., Bowden would go out a loser with and the bowl streak ending would have been the straw that broke the camel’s back.
He gave a lot to FSU, and FSU has returned the favor by not “forcing” a winner to leave a winner. It would have been a shame to allow the program to sink further and to allow Bobby to become a loser and leave a loser—all because he didn’t have enough sense to know it was time (b/c of his age, delusional wife, or whatever reason) and because the “men” in charge didn’t have the balls to tell him. A true friend is honest with you even when the truth hurts. However this decision came about, it was good for all. Bobby will leave as a winner. I hope the media honors him that way and focuses their coverage on Bobby Bowden’s successes and his passing the proverbial torch to another winner. Long live the Noles!
Long live Jimbo Fisher!
Long live the Unconquered!
You know, the Unconquered statue bug the hell out of me. Maybe Jimbo will demand the point the damn spear in the right direction.
I understand wanting the flame up high, but it is just lame the way it is.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 1, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I never noticed that before. Now, I cant stop thinking about it.
Damn you, FrankDNole!
by The K-Man on Dec 1, 2009 9:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ever since they put the spear on Chief O. backwards (2003?) our football program has been going assbackwards as well.
Baby steps.
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Wow
Never thought about that. Maybe less of a burn/fire hazard for morons by putting flame at top?
Stay classy, Tallahassee!
Maybe I'm not seeing it right.
It looks to me like Osceola is turned to his left and is even pulling Renegade in that direction. The tip of the spear is pointing in the same direction he is looking.
I'm sorry to disagree. In person it looks even worse.
Just think of Chief Osceola riding Renegade with the lit spear before the game and you should see how wrong this is.
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The good news keeps coming and it keeps getting better and better.
Could Bobby Bowden’s retirement affect `Canes postseason?
Here is the jist of it.
IF
-Clemson beats Georgia Tech in ACC title game
-The Chick Fil-A Bowl selects Virginia Tech.
-The Gator Bowl would be free to invite any ACC team it wants. According to the Florida Times-Union, the bowl’s contract calls for it to invite the ACC runner-up just once every four years. That happened in 2007 with Georgia Tech.
If the `Noles grab the Gator Bowl spot, it creates a domino effect. Georgia Tech probably goes to the Champs Sport Bowl. The Music City Bowl would then choose between UM and North Carolina. There are reports out of North Carolina that bowl organizers want to invite the Tar Heels and Kentucky, creating a matchup of basketball powers.
If so, that sends UM all the way down to the Meineke Car Care Bowl.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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I wouldn't be so sure if Clemson loses the ACCCG
That fanbase would be hard to pass up for the peach
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 1, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Can some one please link me to the Ellis and Bianchi's articles calling out BB's faults over the last decade
"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."
We gotta get Bobby a Bowl WIN!
Bobby loves going bowling! He loves the extra prep the atmosphere and build up to a national audience. You know it is going to be all access with camera crews. I hope it inspires our boys to win one for POP BOWDEN. God bless ya BB Keep it 3rd and Manageable with the fam
by 3rdandManageable(VicVanBuren) on Dec 1, 2009 10:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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