Should Jimbo Fisher Call Plays as Head Coach??
Recently, there has been discussion over whether Jimbo Fisher, FSU's offensive coordinator, would continue calling plays once becomes head coach next season. Yesterday, Fisher revealed that he intended to continue calling plays and coaching quarterbacks as the head coach. He indicated that he would have an "eye in the booth" (James Coley, his current man in the booth) to assist him. So he will call the plays. But should he? To answer this, two things must be considered. First, Fisher has an excellent track record, having won the ACC offensive coordinator of the year and this past year leading the ACC's best offense in a decade. But that was as an offensive coordinator. Have any other head coaches had success as play-callers? Mark Richt and Steve Spurrier did it well for many years. Here is a list of the top 15 offenses in the country, based on Opponent-Adjusted Offensive Efficiency. I think you'll find that this list pretty clearly shows the best 15 offenses in the country for this season.
| Team | Opponent-Adjusted Offensive Efficiency | Comment |
| Georgia Tech | 1 | HC Paul Johnson calls plays |
| Stanford | 2 | HC Jim Harbaugh heavily involved with the offense. |
| Notre Dame | 3 | HC Charlie Weis calls plays |
| Houston | 4 | HC Kevin Sumlin runs the offense but has a playcaller. |
| Cincinnati | 5 | HC Brian Kelly calls plays |
| Oregon | 6 | HC Chip Kelly Calls plays |
| Alabama | 7 | Defensive minded HC has OC call plays |
| Florida State | 8 | Fisher calls plays |
| Texas | 9 | OC Greg Davis calls plays |
| North Carolina State | 10 | OC calls plays |
| Idaho | 11 | OC calls plays |
| Arkansas | 12 | HC Bobby Petrino designed the offense, OC calls plays. |
| Texas Tech | 13 | HC Mike Leach calls plays |
| Florida | 14 | HC Meyer designed offense and heavily involved; OC calls plays |
| BYU | 15 | Defensive HC lets OC call plays |
- Of the top 6 offenses, all 6 have offensive-minded head coaches. 4 of those 6 calls plays, while the other 2 designed the offense and remained heavily involved in the offensive attack. That's pretty incredible. 3 of those 6 teams are going to BCS games.
- Of the top 10, 9 have offensive head coaches. 5 of those 9 offensive head coaches call plays, and 7 of those 9 are heavily involved in the offense.
- Of the top 15 offenses, 13 have an offensive head coach. Of those 13, 6 call plays, while 11 of 14 are heavily involved in or designed the offense.
- Of the 6 head coaches who call plays, 3 have done so in their first BCS conference head coaching job.
I think it's pretty safe to conclude that allowing a head coach to call plays is just fine, provided he is a good play caller.
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As long as it doesn't impede other aspects of Jimbo being a HC
i.e. overseeing the program as a whole, I have no problem with it.
I do hope that Coley (and I expect he will) is able to contribute a lot in the pre-season so help reduce the burden of both running the program and the O.
I also expect Coley will make suggestions about adjustments b/w O series (or perhaps even during the O series) based on what he sees from the booth.
Lastly, (and this has nothing to do with the O) I hope we have at least 1 D coach in the booth next year. Anyone know if Stoops coaches in the booth or from the sidelines for Arizona? I want to say on the sidelines, but am not 100% sure as I only saw them play maybe 2-3 games this year and it wasn’t something that I was looking for at the time.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
i hope he doesn't coach in the booth
coaches tend to be more effective with motivation when they can be on the field. We do need someone up there though.
Yea, I think its best with Jimbo on the field and Coley in the booth telling him what he sees.
Because that way i think we would be able to exploit a defense’s weaknesses each time.
He tried to coach in the booth his first year at FSU
Then figured out what a cluster it was on the sidelines with zero leadership and decision making. I think the kind of relationship he has built with his QBs will keep him on the sideline calling plays. Nole93 is right. Coley is his guy up top and that seems to work well. Would be unusual for a head coach to be in the booth…unless your school rhymes with Penn St.
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by onebarrelrum on Dec 17, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Defense
As the HC do any of you think Jimbo will oversee what the defense is doing at practices or will he allow Stoops to do his own thing as long as he gets results? I do expect Jimbo to be more involved in practices than Bobby has been in recent years. I just don’t see Jimbo riding around in a golf cart all day.
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FSUncensored is a machine, and doesn’t need sleep.
Did Coley get ahold of you? Or did you start drinking Columbia Coffee too? Maybe I need to start that….
Yeah the coffee is Cuban, the Columbian stuff is entirely different
365 days, until I change my ways.
"Columbian" style
Other, more potent, stimulants added?
Might need it to keep up with Coley. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y08erKJMkc&feature=related
this is probably a function of the confidence
Jimbo has in his defense and defensive coordinator. A lot of the teams on the list above were not successful (I.e., did not win tons of games) because their defense was so bad. Long and short, Jimbo was put in place as HC to win football games, not set offensive records. If he can win as OC, by all means do it. I would almost like to see a correlation between the nations top teams (AP Poll is what I would use to determine this) and the team specific responsibilities of the HC.
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by FIGUREFOUR on Dec 15, 2009 6:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Jimbo could have easily acted as HC this year
All while calling the plays and serving as OC.
In all honesty, he acted more like the HC than BB did, especially towards the end of the season.
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Dec 15, 2009 7:32 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know that Jimbo would've been able to single-handedly fix Mickey's D this year.
He said it himself during the press conference—he’s an offensive guy. Just don’t see him telling our 26-year long DC what to do. So as far as the D goes, don’t know that it would’ve made much difference—having Jimbo or Bobby. As HC, he’ll be more involved on the D side. Biggest impovement will come from Stoops though.
I thought we were upset that our HC wasn't involved.
As Homer said to Marge, “First you didn’t want me to buy the pony, now you want me to give it back. Make up your mind!”
by TEMPORARY LIKE ACHILLES on Dec 15, 2009 8:12 AM EST reply actions
SORRY, RAY.........
no harm intended. I just can’t type and only using two fingers, its much easier that constantly checking for caps, etc. i meant no offense.
p.s. what does punked mean??
Not true....all coaches are meeting together at various times for game plannig....
He was at those meetings last year, but could only speak to his side of the Ball. Now he will at least have input into the D, without expending much more time.
Also, you hire it done well. If the D is so bad that it needs more than an approved gameplan with minor tweeks and input, then you have hired the wrong person.
Yeah, right!
I meant during the game.
A good, tactical HC might see something from time to time a DC might not. It’s good to have a second set of eyes.
by PeachTreeNole on Dec 15, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I am a little surprised
On the other hand this is Jimbo’s first big gig. I am sure he wants nothing to go wrong. It does not mean this is the plan forever. Offensive coordinator can still be shifted over to Coley at a later date. Coley will be in the box recommending plays and checking off with Jimbo.
Fisher is looking to kick off his initial stint as head coach with a bang which is I am sure what we all want also.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
This turned my thoughts back to LSU
Jimbo had a head coach at LSU, Lester who wanted to always be involved in the offense. That is one reason he left. I would really love for Lester to run the whole offense. That would surely be a spectacle. This guy has already called time outs when the ball is dead and spiked on on fourth down instead of kicking the winning field goal. He is paid four million a year to prove an idiot can win 8 games at LSU.
FSU is getting way more for their money with Fisher.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
LSU offense
has been going down hill each tear without fisher
I've had that theory about LSU
for years, and Lester proved it.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
I think there's a theme there with the teams..
on that list whose HC called the plays for them… they had a porous defense. GA Tech, ND, Houston, Oregon, Arky…. I’d rather have the HC with an equal hand in all 3 phases of the game.
I don't think the HC calling plays on Offense has anything to do with the weak D of those 4 teams...
I think the real issue is being able to recruit bulk up front Defensively to those 4 schools.
Yeah, right!
Oregon's D was top 20...
GT lost a ton fron 2008 last year
ND and Hou can’t get players on defense
Arky, not sure what their problem is.
point being, are any of those analogous to our situation?
by Bud Elliott on Dec 15, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'm fine with Jimbo calling plays if that what he wants...
It beats the H.E.L.L. out of a head coach that stands 30 yards away from the action, by himself, and spends the game blowing his nose.
I assumed all along and I am not surprised Jimbo would coach the QB's and call the plays.
Also, there is a difference between delegating responsibility with accountability, as Jimbo will probably do, and delegating, being hands off, watching from a tower, give almost complete autonomy, discretion, and not holding your staff accountable.
Jimbo, as a new HC, will be a work in progress. He will loosen his grip as he gains confidence in Coley and whichever other coaches he brings in.
And just as Jimbo will be a work in progress, so is EJ. Under Jimbo’s guidance, EJ will show the same progression as Ponder did from year to year. I am not too concerned about EJ starting in 2011, and as he gets more PT this year (hopefully).
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I'm glad to hear that Jimbo will keep calling the plays.
In my opinion he is one of the best at keeping the defense on their heels with his play calling.
by NoleBetterTeam on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions
Who's to say Coley isn't as good or better?
Just sayin….complacency breeds bad things, like coaches that never leave…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Jimbo
I would imagine it is somewhat like this now. Coley looks over the field at the alignment suggests something he thinks might work, Fisher agrees or disagrees and signals something in. After the offense is where he thinks it needs to be he could well give patsie games and mop up all to Coley to evaluate what he is doing.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Jimbo has to call the plays...
…from a continuity perspective. With so many changes going on right now with the new staff members, Jimbo needs to hold off on handing the OC duties to Coley until 2011. If he didn’t it would be, in effect, changing both offensive and defensive coordinators in one offseason. He’s maintaining a sense of stability by doing things the way he is.
"We'll win games with talent. We'll win championships with character."
-Jimbo Fisher
I'm truly amazed how quickly Fisher has turned things around here.
In 3 years, the offense has gone from cellar-dwellers to top 10 in the country… that’s amazing. Hopefully, we can get a quick turnaround for the defense as well.
coley is the hype man in the box but jimbo should have the ultimate say
I think it will be a joint effort coley telling jimbo what the D is doing and jimbo looking into is qb eyes and feeling the gamem but I think in his 1st year jimbo should call all the plays with suggestions from coley. Jimbo will know 1st if a TD is there cause coley will be screaming in the headset its there! Its there! Fear the spear! Keep it 3rd and manageable jimbo
by 3rdandManageable(VicVanBuren) on Dec 15, 2009 9:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
With Stoops
Having turned a #22 defense in Arizona I would be surprised if he doesn’t come very close to replicating that at FSU. Now of course he is new on the job, but I honestly believe he is being handed a talent group much better than he was working with. I think Stoops believes that also as he was very interested in this job it appears.
Common sense tells us we won’t have the #106 defense in the nation next year. How fast he upgrades it will be very interesting.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Maybe we will do another
Progression, Stagnation Continuation, Regression series next year.
And in case anyone is interested, I am thinking of writing a follow-up and recap to this years series after the season is over, and I will be assigning our members who participated grades on their projections.
Unfortunately, I think I might have to grade on a curve this time around.
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Frank, if you have time
I’d like to see results of how you feel each unit did in 2009. Can use the pre-season pieces as a counter to see how you (and we the voters) did in terms of “forcasting the future”
I’m not suggesting you pull a 2000+ word piece on each unit, but rather a summary of each unit.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
That was a great series.
I remember thinking how much ‘fun’ it would be to go back and look at our predictions. I think I can sum it up for pretty much everyone. Offense-Spectacular Progression all the way around (well, I guess the running game took a hit but with the passing so amazing…I’ll overlook that). Defense-ridiculous regression of epic fail proportions.
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by onebarrelrum on Dec 17, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I read
That he took Arizona’s defense from 106 to 61st in the nation in his first year. Even as a bare minimum, that improvement would be huge for the team. With the athletes at FSU though, it could easily be higher
"We'll win games with talent, but we'll win championships with character and intelligence."
by SteadfastNole on Dec 16, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
The biggest thing I’m concerned about is defending the spread. UF runs a similar offense to Oregon and AU hasn’t defending Oregon all that well. Granted there is a talent gap between the two schools and I think Oregon is a very good team, especially offensively, but I’ll be interested to see what he does. I’m not saying Stoops can’t build a defense to stop that sort of thing but rather I’ll be interested to see what he does to try and stop it.
Note: I understand that UF will be more of a pro spread next year but they’ll still have many elements of their current offense like the zone read and what-not.

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