Are The 2010 Konica Minolta Gator Bowl Sponsors Stingy and Tight-Wads?
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Inferior, nominal, shabby, and cheap are the words that come to my mind when I think of the gifts being given to the FSU and WVU players participating in the Konica Minolta Gator Bowl on January 1st, especially when compared to some of the gifts being given to participants of the less "prominent" bowls.
The giving of gifts to the players and coaches of both teams participating in Bowl games is a tradition that has gone on for many years. The Bowl game is a reward to the players for having a above average season and qualifying for a extra game in late December or early January, and the gifts are one of the perks which have long been associated with Bowl games.
According to the NCAA, bowls are permitted to give each player up to $500 worth of gifts once they arrive at the bowl site. Some bowls allow the players to select their own gifts, often via a gift card and usually used during a team shopping spree or "party" usually at a electronics store (e.g. 2008 Champs Bowl/Best Buy last year for the FSU team). Some Bowls give a player a "gift basket" of goodies which will usually include some type of electronic gadget, along with a couple of other items such as a watch or ring, sunglasses or apparel, luggage or backpack, and/or a miscellaneous item (i.e. commemorative football, food gift card, plaque, recliner, or some other memorabilia).
Of course, the total amount of the gift(s) is entirely up the bowl sponsors and the bowl committee.
Recently, the combination of gift certificate/team shopping spree, the gift suites, or allowing players to pick out their own gifts from a catalog, has become increasingly popular and is now being used by the majority of the bowls.
The Florida based Capital One and Champs Sports bowls, both organized by Florida Citrus Sports, were among the first to allow the players to pick their gifts.
"We're somewhat widely credited for gift suites and a shopping spree," said Steve Hogan, CEO of Florida Citrus Sports. "We kind of said, 'Look, it just doesn't make sense to kind of guess on an electronic item, a branded item and just guess what kids want.' "
Here are a couple of quick examples of what some of the sponsors of some of the "lesser" bowls will be giving the players and coaches upon their arrivals.
The St. Petersburg Bowl will give each player an iLuv iPod/DVD player, and an Oakley package that includes a watch, sunglasses and a backpack.
The R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl will give each player a Pure Digital mini cam-corder, a Balfour ring, and a Oakley package with Antix sunglasses and a backpack.
The Meineke Car Care Bowl will present each player with a choice of a Bose gift package or an iPod touch, speakers, and $20 gift card, along with a Fossil watch, an Ogio duffle bag, and a commemorative photo from the Richard Petty Driving experience.
The Emerald Bowl will be giving away Hewlett Packard mini netbooks, which are basically small laptops, in addition to a Fossil watch.
The EagleBank Bowl will giving players a Slingbox SOLO with Slinglink Turbo 1 Port, which is a device that allows users to watch TV on a computer or mobile phone, and a Powermat, which is a wireless charging station for cell phone, a hat, football, and tailgate blanket.
Participants in the Texas Bowl will be receiving a $300 Best Buy gift card, a Fossil Watch, Under Amour shirt, hat and backpack, and a Bowl T-Shirt and Belt Buckle.
For a bowl game that sold out in 2 hours, the Konica Minolta Gator Bowl's package pales in comparison to many other bowls. The words I used to lead off this story are the ones that come to mind once again when I see what the players and coaches from FSU and WVU will be receiving this year.
Hold on to your hats, or better yet, maybe the players should grab their ankles, because the giant multi-national Imaging Company, Konica Minolta, and the 2009 Gator Bowl committee, have generously decided to grace these athletes presence in Jacksonville, by giving each participant,
wait for it,
A Fossil watch and Oakley Antix sunglasses.
IMAO, I find these gifts laughable and inexcusable.
What do you think? Please vote below.
Hit the jump to see how the other Bowls sponsors and committees are putting the Konica Minolta Gator Bowl to shame by at least making an effort to get as close to the NCAA maximum of $500 as possible, or at least by giving these young men some electronics or gift cards to show their appreciation for their participation. After all, isn't this the season for giving, and the sold out Konica Minolta Gator Bowl should be showering our players with gifts upon their arrival.
SOURCE: Sports Business Journal
2009 Bowl gifts to participants
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Bowl
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Electronics
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Watch/Ring
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Apparel/Sunglasses
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Luggage
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Other
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| New Mexico | |||||
| Dec. 19, 4:30 p.m., Albuquerque, N.M., ESPN | Sony gift suite | Oakley beanie, Oakley Antix sunglasses | Ogio wheeled garment bag, Oakley Surf Pack backpack | ||
| St. Petersburg | |||||
| Dec. 19, 8 p.m., St. Petersburg, Fla., ESPN | iLuv iPod/DVD player | Oakley Holeshot 3-Hand watch | Oakley Eyepatch sunglasses | Oakley Surf Pack backpack | |
| R&L Carriers New Orleans | |||||
| Dec. 20, 8:15 p.m., New Orleans, ESPN | Pure Digital Flip mini-camcorder | Balfour ring | Oakley Antix sunglasses | Oakley Panel Packbackpack | |
| MAACO Las Vegas | |||||
| Dec. 22, 8 p.m., Las Vegas, ESPN | Sony gift suite | Fossil watch | New Era cap | Ogio Fugitive laptop pack | |
| San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia | |||||
| Dec. 23, 8 p.m., San Diego, ESPN | Flo TV television, 1-year of service; Best Buy gift card | Tourneau watch | Sports Tek hooded sweatshirt, cap | ||
| Sheraton Hawaii | |||||
| Dec. 24, 8 p.m., Honolulu, ESPN | Kahala Aloha shirt | ||||
| Little Caesars Pizza | |||||
| Dec. 26, 1 p.m., Detroit, ESPN | Sony gift suite | Timely Watch Co. watch | Football | ||
| Meineke Car | |||||
| Care Dec. 26, 4:30 p.m., Charlotte, ESPN | Choice of Bose gift packages or iPod touch, speakers and $20 gift card | Fossil watch | Ogio duffle bag | Commemorative Richard Petty Driving Experience photo | |
| Emerald | |||||
| Dec. 26, 8 p.m., San Francisco, ESPN | Fossil watch | ||||
| Gaylord Hotels Music City | |||||
| Dec. 27, 8:30 p.m., Nashville, ESPN | RCA HD camcorder | Fossil watch | Majestic fleece pullover,New Era hat | Ogio Metro laptop pack | |
| AdvoCare V100 Independence | |||||
| Dec. 28, 5 p.m., Shreveport, La., ESPN2 | Sony gift suite | Timely Watch Co. watch | New Era hat | Football | |
| EagleBank | |||||
| Dec. 29, 4:30 p.m., Washington, D.C., ESPN | Slingbox SOLO with Slinglink Turbo 1 Port, Powermat charging station | Visions Marketing Hat | Football, Kanata tailgate blanket | ||
| Champs Sports | |||||
| Dec. 29, 8 p.m., Orlando, ESPN | Party at Best Buy($420 limit) | Timely Watch Co. watch | |||
| Roadys Humanitarian | |||||
| Dec. 30, 4:30 p.m., Boise, Idaho, ESPN | Sony gift suite, Garmin GPS | Parka, Nike pullover, gloves, hand warmers, skull cap | Ogio Fugitive laptop pack | Football | |
| Pacific Life Holiday | |||||
| Dec. 30, 8 p.m., San Diego, ESPN | Flo TV personal television (includes one-year of service), Best Buy gift card | Tourneau watch | Sports Tek hooded sweatshirt, cap | ||
| Bell Helicopter Armed Forces | |||||
| Dec. 31, Noon, Fort Worth, Texas, ESPN | Sony gift suite | Timely Watch Co. watch | Camouflaged knit cap | Ogio Metro laptop pack, luggage tag | Football, calendar |
| Brut Sun | |||||
| Dec. 31, 2 p.m., El Paso, Texas, CBS | Sony gift suite | Timely Watch Co. watch | Majestic fleece pullover, VP Sports cap | Ogio Politan laptop pack | Brut hair dryer; coin |
| Texas | |||||
| Dec. 31, 3:30 p.m., Houston, ESPN | $300 Best Buy gift card | Fossil watch | Under Armour shirt and hat; Bowl T-shirt | Under Armour backpack | Belt buckle |
| Insight | |||||
| Dec. 31, 6 p.m., Tempe, Ariz., NFL Network | Sony gift suite | Fossil watch | Hat | Ogio Bounty Hunter or Hermit laptop pack | |
| Chick-fil-A | |||||
| Dec. 31, 7:30 p.m., Atlanta, ESPN | $250 Best Buy gift card | Fossil watch | Russell Athletic knit cap | Russell Athletic travel bag | Football, Chick-fil-A gift card |
| Outback | |||||
| Jan. 1, 11 a.m., Tampa, ESPN | Best Buy gift card | Pro-Swiss watch, Jostens ring | Hat | Outback Steakhouse gift card | |
| Capital One | |||||
| Jan. 1, 1 p.m., Orlando, ABC | Party at Best Buy($420 limit) | Timely Watch Co. watch | |||
| Konica Minolta Gator | |||||
| Jan. 1, 1 p.m., Jacksonville, CBS | Fossil watch | Oakley Antix sunglasses | |||
| Rose Bowl presented by Citi | |||||
| Jan. 1, 4:30 p.m., Pasadena, Calif., ABC | 19 Sharp television combo | Fossil watch | New Era 59Fifty fitted hat | Ogio Fugitive laptop pack | Plaque |
| Allstate Sugar | |||||
| Jan. 1, 8:30 p.m., New Orleans, Fox | Sony, Apple, Trek, Garmin and Weber gift suite | Timely Watch Co. watch | New Era cap | Ogio Politan laptop pack | Lane recliner |
| INTernational | |||||
| Jan. 2, Noon, Toronto, ESPN2 | Electronics package | Timely Watch Co. watch | Football | ||
| Papajohns.com | |||||
| Jan. 2, 2 p.m., Birmingham, Ala., ESPN | RCA HD mini-camcorder | Oakley Surf Pack backpack | |||
| AT&T Cotton | |||||
| Jan. 2, 2 p.m., Arlington, Texas, Fox | Would Not Disclose | ||||
| AutoZone Liberty | |||||
| Jan. 2, 5:30 p.m., Memphis, Tenn., ESPN | Westinghouse 19 LCD HDTV/computer monitor | Fossil watch | Nike training shoes, Nike sport sandals, Nike sunglasses | Football | |
| Valero Alamo | |||||
| Jan. 2, 9 p.m., San Antonio, ESPN | 32-gig iPod Touch, Dr. Dre Monster Beats headphones | Fossil watch | Oakley Antix sunglasses | Shutt mini-helmet,panoramic photo | |
| Tostitos Fiesta | |||||
| Jan. 4, 8 p.m., Glendale, Ariz., Fox | Sony gift suite | Fossil watch,Tourneau watch | Hat | Ogio Hermit checkpoint friendly laptop pack | |
| FedEx Orange | |||||
| Jan. 5, 8 p.m., Miami, Fox | Sony gift suite | Tourneau watch | New Era cap | Ogio Politan laptop pack | |
| GMAC | |||||
| Jan. 6, 7 p.m., Mobile, Ala., ESPN | RCA HD mini-camcorder | Timely Watch Co. watch | Cap | Garment bag with dop kit | Football |
| Citi BCS National Championship | |||||
| GameJan. 7, 8 p.m., Pasadena, Calif., ABC | Sony gift suite with Trek and Garmin | Fossil watch | New Era 59Fifty hat | Ogio Politan laptop pack | |
| Notes: All times listed are ET. Product details are provided as they were available. Most watches, rings, clothing and luggage are custom-made with the bowl logo. Gift suites are set up as private events in which game participants, and often bowl VIPs, are given an order form and allowed to select a gift, or gifts, up to a value that is predetermined by each specifi c bowl, not to exceed the NCAA limit of $500 per person. Sources: Bowl committees and vendors |
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Konica Minolta
You’d think they’d be at least able to give out a nice camera or something
"We'll win games with talent, but we'll win championships with character and intelligence."
by SteadfastNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for recently joining TN and for your comments.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I love this place
"We'll win games with talent, but we'll win championships with character and intelligence."
by SteadfastNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Strangely enough
They no longer manufacture cameras.
I guess they could get a Printer/Fax/Copier Combo… of course they really get you with the ink.
by coonhound on Dec 16, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Minolta doesn't make any more camera's?
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I may be in the minority but I could not care less what the players get as "gifts" from the bowls
Unless I am getting something too.
by Egret on Dec 16, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it.
Personally, I would like to see our players, the ones who have been busting their butts for the past 9 months for our school, get whatever the can from the man. Especially in comparison with what the other bowls are giving.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I consider a free education and/or direct path
to a football career a much better reward. Frankly this seems stupid. Bowls should be about playing in the bowls not what kind of gifts you get for showing up. Could the Gator Bowl match other bowl’s offers, yes. Should they? I don’t care. I don’t want the Noles to be playing in the Gator bowl and “upset about the lack of quality gifts”. I want the Noles to be playing for the NC worried about what size their ring finger is so when they bring a NC back to Tally all will be good.
"You play to WIN the GAME"
by fsugrizz on Dec 17, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The players are not "upset about the lack of quality gifts."
No player has mentioned anything about it to my knowledge.
This are my own thoughts, hence the opening line.
I am sorry you don’t agree with me and feel that the players deserve better. If something is customary and is there for the taking, which it is in every bowl, why should the Gator all of a sudden this year decide to scale back.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 17, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you are just being selfish. It adds to the WOW factor of going bowling.
Yeah, right!
by truecolors on Dec 16, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, but I am being selfish for our players, not for me. Last year they got a $400 gift card from Best Buy, and a watch.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just think the Gator Bowl could care less about 2 conferences that they don't have to worry about after this year.
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Dec 16, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think you hit the nail on the head.
Gator Bowl (Nebraska vs. Clemson)
Gifts: Bulova watch, Jostens ring, Oakley Split Thump MP3 sunglasses, fitted cap, Two-piece Mercury Luggage rolling duffel and sling bag
http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2008/12/your-2008-2009-college-football-bowl.html
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Gator Bowl may not care about the ACC but they damn sure care about FSU baby!
Way too many Noles come. Look at the FSU Bama game or the great attendance they get whenever we show up. So, being cheap is a silly thing to do to your cash cow.
http://s825.photobucket.com/albums/zz178/unclefestus/
by GonzoNole on Dec 17, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to disagree
The only reason the FSU-Bama game was sold out was because of Bama fans are passionate and go anywhere. When FSU played Colorado there last year the stadium was just over half full.
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Dec 17, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still more than a Jags game...
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Dec 17, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There were just as many Seminole fans there that day as Bama fans.
by MattDNole on Dec 17, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was there
and there were def just as many of us, and not long after the asswhoopin started, we were much, much louder than they were.
My sign: If you can read this, you didnt go to Alabama.
by Miaminole on Dec 21, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FSU outsold Colorado 8 to 1
FSU fans did their job. Where was Colorado?
http://s825.photobucket.com/albums/zz178/unclefestus/
by GonzoNole on Dec 17, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point was we are not the cash cow you think we are
If Bama had played Colorado last year in Jax the game would have been sold out. FSU getting 40K fans to travel a couple hours doesn’t impress me.
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Dec 17, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Point taken. We're no bama
First our collective IQ is higher. :-)
Second, the Colorado game was the exception. The Gator Bowl has done very well with FSU. We are one of their best sellers and they know they will get a very good turn-out when we play. Even during the past eight years, the Gator Bowl has done well with us.
http://s825.photobucket.com/albums/zz178/unclefestus/
by GonzoNole on Dec 17, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
and I bet next years SEC and Loser 10 teams will get better SWAG.
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Dec 16, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm now doomed to spend at least
5 minutes determining which bowl package I like best.
by l0stnumber on Dec 16, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Work/school is overrated anyway.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some bowls are giving players the plague?
Seems kind of rough
by RyanC on Dec 16, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You would think they would avoid those bowls like the plaque.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This joke wasn't wasted Frank...nicely done.
by DamonH on Dec 16, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Damon.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for joining TN and commenting.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as it’s not Bubonic or Black its really not that bad
by evenflow58 on Dec 16, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
gift value is relative
First of all, we were already given an outstanding gift by the Gator Bowl; the opportunity to play in a New Years Day Bowl less than 200 miles from home following a 6-6 season. Second, their authority to spend up to $500 dollars per player does not render any gift in the $100- $200 range as inferior.
by Neon Deion on Dec 16, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We did give the Gator Bowl a gift in return, a sell out in 2 ours and having to add 2000+ seats to make room for more ticket sales
They should be ecstatic considering the Jags draw about 500 a game.
by karmanole on Dec 16, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good point
I’m not saying they didn’t choose FSU because they knew they could make a mint, I’m simply adding that we are not in the position to complain considering the scope of the benefits our program receives from the New Years Day bowl… regardless of how poor the gift package stacks up against the others, and it does stack up very poorly.
by Neon Deion on Dec 16, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WVU at 9-3 gets the same gifts we do. Should they be complaining?
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With those gifts don't they instantly become the richest of the rich in Morganstown
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Dec 16, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
HA, REC.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to know the value of the gifts.
For example, do the players get a $200 Fossil watch and $200 Oakley glasses? That sounds ok to me. If this is a $50 watch and $100 glasses, then that sucks.
by FSUjab on Dec 16, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know the MSRP. However, I do see other bowls giving the Fossil watch and sunglasses, along with some much nicer gifts.
So I think your second guess is probably more in line.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
avg price of a fossil watch- $95, Oakley Antix- $90
by Neon Deion on Dec 16, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless they are the Chuck Amato limited edition Oakley's...
by karmanole on Dec 16, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They aren’t. Those are only packaged with the limited edition bras.
by evenflow58 on Dec 16, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
Chucks moobs need a special bra.
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Dec 16, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Gator Bowl is clearly a little off
We got passed by last year by the Gator Bowl when we were deserving of it because they thought Clemson would travel better than we would. These Gator Bowl officials are all about $. Thats why we got in this year. IMO they are just trying to save more money for their own pockets. I’m new to all this but I love the Noles!
by OrlandoNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome and thanks for joining and posting on TN.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
additional thought
I would rather play the Gator Bowl on NATIONAL TV and get pixy stix than play the Emerald Bowl and get computers, TVs, shoes, and a new SUV… better for the program.
by Neon Deion on Dec 16, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No question, but like I pointed out in the story, they should grab their ankles when they get there because they are getting screwed.
From what I could tell, the worst gift basket of ANY of the bowl games.
We get no respect I tell ya.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope....
I believe one bowl is giving a…………shirt.
by wnc_nole on Dec 16, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but is it a nice shirt?
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I play in the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl
…and all I got was this lousy shirt?
"We'll win games with talent, but we'll win championships with character and intelligence."
by SteadfastNole on Dec 16, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A shirt is fine with me
if its coupled with a trip to FREAKING HAWAII!!!
by freshcollegeboy on Dec 16, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not So Fast my friend
BC and USC only get the Fossil watch…no oakley sunglasses to go with it and as mentioned before the Hawaii bowl is just giving out shirts.
"You play to WIN the GAME"
by fsugrizz on Dec 17, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong. If you read the story, you will see
The Emerald Bowl will be giving away Hewlett Packard mini netbooks, which are basically small laptops, in addition to a Fossil watch.
It does not appear on the SBJ list, so you will have to trust me on this one.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 17, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize
I did read the story but when I read you comment I just scanned the table you had listed and the only thing you listed is the watch.
"You play to WIN the GAME"
by fsugrizz on Dec 17, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And it should not be a either/or situation, IMO.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Neon Deion, Thanks for joining and posting on TN. Appreciate your comments.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
any chance...
they get surprised with stuff not on the list? If I were a player I would be hoping they have a surprise for me.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Dec 16, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they do, I will take credit for it due to this story, and the players should thank me publicly.
Seriously though, hopefully they will, but I wouldn’t hold my breath, because I would think they would have said something like, “and another gift to be announced.”
The Cotton Bowl has not released the details of their package because they want it to be a surprise to the players when they get there. But I am willing to bet, it will be close to the $500 limit.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just another reason...
why FSU should have gone to the champs bowl and played a slomo big 10 team…
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Dec 16, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m interested in this Ogio Bounty Hunter that the Insight Bowl is giving away. Is this like a Dog the Bounty Hunter or Boba Fett?
by evenflow58 on Dec 16, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not surprised but I got mine
I am not surprised the gift package is cheap but I got mine. I cleared $500 reselling tickets due to this being BB’s last game. Thanks Bobby.
by Ronnole on Dec 16, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Some would call you a jerk.
I’d call you brilliant.
by coonhound on Dec 16, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a jerk or brilliant
But I am now going to the game free and with a great pregame meal.
by Ronnole on Dec 16, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you get a great meal in Jacksonville?
by coonhound on Dec 16, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not familiar with all the restaurants in town,
but Ruth’s Cris is in both Jax and PVB.
by tricknole on Dec 16, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mmmmmmmmmmmmm i know where im going
"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."
by NorFla_Nole on Dec 16, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad I don't play for a team going to the Brut Sun Bowl.
So much upside:
1. El Paso. Nicely situated next to Juarez, Mexico. This would be especially great if I was a Criminology major like a lot of Football players.
2. Brut samples in the lockerroom. Now everyone would smell like Chuck Amato.
3. Proximity to the Asarco Copper Smelting Plant! YAY! Arsenic and Lead for all. Nothing like playing ball next to an EPA SARA Title III Superfund Site.
4. A Free Brut Hair Drier. Especially useful for bald-headed players.
5. A Free Coin.
Talk about red carpet
by coonhound on Dec 16, 2009 4:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think the Sun Bowl actually picked up the ACC for next year
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Dec 16, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
There you have it… Motivation to do better than average next year.
Jimbo: “Boys, if you wanna #&*!ing play grabass all summer and sleep walk through the year, you’ll just end up smelling like that Clown Amato playing next to one of the most toxic plants in the US. You might even get raped by a Mexican Drug Lord.”
by coonhound on Dec 16, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
God I remember watching FSU as a kid and going....
Man, all these guys are criminology majors. They must really hate crime…I’m glad I root for the good guys.
Then Adrian McPherson came along.
by DamonH on Dec 16, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I be some of them have a lot to share in those classes...
by coonhound on Dec 16, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We must not have had the "social science" major back then.
OTL told me that’s the major the majority of our players are in.
by tricknole on Dec 16, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are they sunglasses Polarized?
In all honesty if the Sunglasses are pairs of polarized sunglasses it could make the difference. As a boat owner the difference between polarized and non polarized sunglasses on the water is amazing but with that being said for day to day use the polarized sunglasses really don’t matter. The watch being a fossil to is kind of weak. If the package were the sunglasses polarized and lets say a Michael Kors watch then I’d say ok, but the fossil watch is the deal breaker for me.
Spot
by FSUSpot on Dec 16, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for joining TN recently and for commenting. You would think at the $90 price tag someone above mentioned, they would be polarized.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ya arent polarized glasses like $250 more?
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by NorFla_Nole on Dec 16, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hardly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Png-PC0ews
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Dec 16, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know, Fossil actually makes some nice watches
But I still prefer my fake rolex
by FSU PHD on Dec 16, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you my old roommate from FSU?
He likes his polarized shades.
by tricknole on Dec 16, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They should get a boat too so as to try their nice new polarized shades
For all the money the Gate Bowl makes off of us whenever we show up, they should at least throw in a Gift Certificate to the local massage parlor for where, "Win or Lose, “Every Player Get Happy Ending!” Jax is a Navy town after all.
http://s825.photobucket.com/albums/zz178/unclefestus/
by GonzoNole on Dec 17, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I firmly believe that if the Gator Bowl doesn't come up with more gifts, as his final act as coach, Bobby should take the players on a field trip just like the one the Texas A&M Aggies coach took his players a few years back.
Caution: Man-Butt may be NSFW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM2f8gf6HHo&feature=player_embedded
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 4:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And it turns out the dancing/singing football players was NSFW.
Now my boss thinks I’m a lefty.
by coonhound on Dec 16, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I here that Konica Minolta isn't cheap but that...
Fred Rouse nicked all the more expensive gifts out of the gift baskets.
Familiar face around the Konica Minolta Gator bowl office?

by revival on Dec 16, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
We got the gift of a bowl that we had no business going to.
Now you want more? Greedy, Frank, greedy.
by MattDNole on Dec 16, 2009 5:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Now let's look at who really got the gift.
The Gator Bowl didn’t choose to have Bowden’s last game because they love him, or us. They did it for the bottom line and got a gift beyond their wildest projections. There are no favors being granted to FSU. This is not an act of kindness. It was a financial decision to bring us there and they have been more than compensated with a two hour sellout. So, they get this great deal and end up looking like cheap skates because they get chintzy on their gift packages. Frank’s using the other bowls as a measuring stick and the Gator Bowl comes up short. The least they can do is match what bowls of similar prestige give to their teams.
Not that I’m surprised. It is the “Gator” Bowl after all. I think I’m more surprised that the gift package didn’t include a lifetime supply of jorts, free haircuts at Sir Snips-Alot and a pork rinds variety pack.
http://s825.photobucket.com/albums/zz178/unclefestus/
by GonzoNole on Dec 17, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, we're playing on New Year's day in a Bowl that is far more prestigious than what we deserve.
What more do you want?
by MattDNole on Dec 17, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that.
Personally, I wish we weren’t. We really don’t deserve to be there and West Virginia may prove that point over and over again all night. Sending Coach Bowden out with a loss is not my idea of a great send-off. That’s why I don’t think we need to act like we’re grateful to the Gator Bowl. They didn’t do it to be nice. After kickoff, they could care less if we get our cans kicked. They got what they wanted. I just think that skimping on the gift (if they actually do) seems trite. I guess it must seem like much ado about nothing but, sometimes, it’s the little things that tell you about an organization.
http://s825.photobucket.com/albums/zz178/unclefestus/
by GonzoNole on Dec 17, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
isnt the fact that we're playing on nat tv on jan 1 enough of a gift?
considering we lost at home to USF and we’ll still be coached by allen and amato
by 000111 on Dec 16, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree it is a gift. However the question should be
A) Why the crummy gifts, compared to other bowls?
2) Doesn’t a 9-3 WVU team deserve better?
D) Last years gifts for Nebraska and Clemson were: Bulova watch, Jostens ring, Oakley Split Thump MP3 sunglasses, fitted cap, Two-piece Mercury Luggage rolling duffel and sling bag. Is the economy being blamed?
Or maybe like Matt said above, Am I just being greedy?
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Breaking news, as FIRST reported here on December 13th (I have always wanted to say that), and something the pay-for-censorship sites have yet to mention. as far as I know,
it appears that Coach Rick Trickett will remain at FSU.
It is being reported that Doc Holliday, the Associate Head Coach at West Virginia will be be the new coach at Marshall and is expected to sign a 5 year deal for $650K per season.
This is obviously important news on the Trickett front, but also affects our Gator Bowl opponent West Virginia.
BTW, this is not the same Doc Holliday as our loyal TN member and PhotoShop master extraordinaire.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 5:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Plus FSU (not WVU) are selling more ticks...so that ISN'T enough.
Yeah, right!
by truecolors on Dec 23, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gator bowl officials look to care more about money than football these days.
With FSU being chosen for the Bobby Bowden retirement sensation and clemson being chosen over FSU last year, they really seem to be all about the $$. however, this is partially justified by the fact that their sales for the jaguar games have been really low apparently.
by gonoles101 on Dec 16, 2009 6:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for joining recently and posting.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gift Horse
Never look a gift horse in the mouth. That said, they are some cheap sums of bitchaws
by Blazenole on Dec 16, 2009 6:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It is what it is
The gifts do seem somewhat cheap but I wouldn’t complain. Maybe it will provide motivation for the players to play harder next year so they can receive better gifts from a more prestigious bowl.
by Scoot3rs on Dec 16, 2009 6:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My issue is that the lesser bowls have better gifts, and last year the gifts were better, but I understand what you are saying.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A football?
Is that a gift players really want? Don’t they get enough footballs?
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Dec 16, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would think it is a commemorative type of football. Get Bobby to sign it for you, and you can sell it to a Bowdenista for thousands of dollars.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
It always reminds me of when they give a guy whose number just got retired his framed jersey…like he doesn’t have any jerseys laying around.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Dec 16, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man Up
and quit whining like some silly-ass Gator.
by WRChadwell FSU78 on Dec 16, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It's a shame you consider wanting more for our players "whining like some silly-ass Gator."
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for recently joining and finally posting.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Frank, another idea for a poll
Which of the following players would be caught in public wearing a Fossil watch?
-Nigel Carr
-Avis Commack
-Rod Owens
(Hint. Rod is the only non-laughable answer)
by The K-Man on Dec 16, 2009 8:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I guess I should look up Fossil watches, because I haven't a clue. I only wear Timex, because just like my G/F, it takes a lickin', and........
Maybe tomorrow I will look it up on my e-bay machine.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fossil
makes a sick FSU diving watch- price tag $120.
It looks 10 times better in person and I love mine!
by RenegadeNole on Dec 17, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get what's wrong with a Fossil watch.
They make a few that I would wear, if I wore watches. They also make some that I wouldn’t be caught dead even looking at.
by tricknole on Dec 16, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better Prizes Await....
We should have held out. I hear the Mogadishu Bowl will be giving players AK-47 with extended mags, complementary war lord status, and a gift basket full of goodies including a sweet satellite phone “just in case one needs to make a call.”
Seriously. Check it out: http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2009/12/15/places-a-bowl-game-should-be-held-mogadishu/
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Dec 16, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmm
This post looks strangely familiar.
Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."
by 1newplayer on Dec 16, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Please explain.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 16, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be perfectly honest, I did not see or read that. Next time 1newplayer, you should do a fanpost or a fanshot. I discovered this on a West Virginia site and that is what prompted me to do this post.
If I would have seen that, I would not have wasted the time it took me to write and research this story. However, on the positive side, I have received 2 interesting emails regarding this story, one from the Directory of Marketing for the Gator Bowl, that I may be doing a follow up story on.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 17, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I feel I have to justify anything to anyone, but here is where I first came across it, towards the bottom of the page. I was reading how WVU likes to squib kick.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 17, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its good to know the Gator Bowl is keeping tabs, at least they act like they care
"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."
by NorFla_Nole on Dec 17, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What did that guy/lady say?
And I don’t think 1newplayer cares. I don’t. I was just explaining it.
by tricknole on Dec 17, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I don’t care. Just busting your chops Frank. It’s no big deal. Actually the day I posted it I didn’t have time to make a fan shot so I threw it in the Running Discussion thread. Been to busy with work to post anything on TN lately. Your piece is well written and once again no hard feelings Frank.
Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."
by 1newplayer on Dec 17, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a former player… this is an insult….. id rather just have them donate 500 bucks of Cuban coffee for me and Coach Coley and attack the Sun like true Seminoles…
by DGreenFSU66 on Dec 17, 2009 1:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
one day Frank you'll suffer
and then you won’t give a rat’s ass for things that sparkle. And then you will start to become a human being.
by sperrett1 on Dec 17, 2009 2:42 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
That is dark and ominous!
The problem is that if you suffer enough, you won’t give a rat’s ass about football either.
http://s825.photobucket.com/albums/zz178/unclefestus/
by GonzoNole on Dec 17, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the well wishes. Are you upset with me that you never won a Shiny Prize? Is that why you brought up things that sparkle?
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by FrankDNole on Dec 17, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you even read?
Had you actually read the article. You would have seen were they explained some bowl committees are not naming off all the gifts and they are represented by an * beside the bowl. The Gator was one with an * because they want to suprise the players. Kind of like a Christmas present (you dont tell you children what they are getting). They stated the teams will have to wait till they arrive to see what all the gifts are. This is a typical post just to try to stir shit up when it dont include all of the facts from the original article.
by COUCHESBWARE on Dec 17, 2009 5:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wait which article?
I haven’t read any of them except Frank’s yet.
by MattDNole on Dec 17, 2009 7:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't go and ruin a good bitchfest!
http://s825.photobucket.com/albums/zz178/unclefestus/
by GonzoNole on Dec 17, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I don't stir some sh*t up at least once a day, I consider that day a failure. Thanks for not letting him/her ruin it for me.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 17, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for joining Tomahawk Nation and for posting your comments. Since you are new I will just give you a slight admonishment and remind you that profanity is not allowed on this site.
OK let’s say it together now, GO NOLES!
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by FrankDNole on Dec 17, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, thats an interesting admonishment coming from FrankD.
just bustin your NADS this time Frank. :) FWIW, I enjoy the.. ahem.. color you’re posts add. Even if I don’t always appreciate the word usage.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
by FSUvaFan on Dec 17, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NADS well busted.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 17, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HA HA HAAAAAAAAA
Gimme a BREAK! Where DOES this entitlement come from?? As a KMBS employee, i would rather see the company give NOTHING at all to a bunch of spoiled brats playing a game that NO ONE cares about considering the fact that we’ve had a year: without raises, without 401K employer match, no holiday party and laid off a lot of employees!!
by kmbsemployee on Dec 18, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
no one cares about them? or your company doesnt care about you?
"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."
by NorFla_Nole on Dec 18, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for joining TN and for letting us know how bad you have it. FYI, there is a new story up on this subject.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 18, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
welcome to the corporate world
yeah welcome to the corporate world. ummm ncaa keeps them from working and the bowl and the city benefit enormously from the players who are entertaining. So pony up. Heck the New Orleans bowl has a better package.
by newera4noles on Dec 21, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Frank
you notice they criticism mostly came from people who signed up just to blast you? That is pretty odd. Golly…
by Miaminole on Dec 21, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I guess you can call me the Mike Bianci of Tomahawk Nation.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 22, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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