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Strategy Session: What Florida State can expect from the West Virginia Offense

With Bobby Bowden's retirement, the Gator Bowl in Jacksonville Florida made a smart business decision by scooping up Florida State, so that it could sell out its tickets to Seminole fans in a record amount of time. The word had leaked about what they planned to do, and it worked Seminoles were ready to watch Bowden's last game which would be played against his former employer West Virginia University. FSU normally wouldn't have been qualified to play in such a bowl, after having a 6-6 season, but never the less this is where they landed.

So what can Florida State expect to see from WVU when they are on defense? Honestly, the first thing they can expect is a lot of WVU in the endzone, but we knew that because FSU had the 93rd ranked defense in the country this season. We are going to take a look at the players and schemes that make the WVU offense dynamic, and what to look for on January 1 as you root on the Seminoles.  

Quarterback:

West Virginia lost one of the most impressive college football players of the last decade last year, Pat White. White was the perfect QB for the WVU offense, and set records in theig East for yards and scoring. They replace him with a RS-Sr Jarrett Brown who is 6'4'' 223 and can move very well for his size. He is an inconsistent passer, but has a live arm when he does throw it. The QB is an intricate part of the offensive plan for WVU. In WVU's offense the QB is expected to be both a runner and a passer (which has given DC Mickey Andrews fits), and Jarrett Brown fits the billing. While he isn't Pat White, he is still a threat to run.

Runningback:

WVU has one of the most impressive RBs in the entire country. Famously recruited by FSU and mentored by Deion Sanders Noel Devine wasn't going to get into FSU and chose to go to WVU instead of Hargrave Prep and re-entering the recruiting process. The selection was a good one for him. While he is only 5'8'' 178, Noel is extremely muscular, quick, elusive, and he has excellent vision. He has gained 1297 yards on the ground with a 5.8 yd per carry average and 12 TDs this season, after seasons where he averaged 6.3 yds per running play and 8.6 as a freshman change of pace back.

Scheme:

WVU's offense has been one of the most productive units throughout the last 5 years. Rich Rodriguez brought his style of offense to town and new coach Bill Stewart hasn't changed what they do very much. West Virginia is predominantly a zone-read team. The zone-read concept has been discussed on this site before, as USF runs it a lot and Boston College used it to destroy our defense just a year ago, even though it isn't one of their base offensive concepts. Mickey Andrews defense has never been able to handle this concept.

In WVU's offense the QB is set in the shotgun with 1 RB. The fundamental idea of the zone reads are simple. The OL are in a zone blocking technique (where they are blocking in a "zone" rather than a 1-1 man technique), more about zone blocking is discussed in this excellent article. The quarterback has a "read" or if you like "option" to give the ball to the RB or keep the ball.  Theplay is designed to go frontside (or the direction that the OL is blocking) to the RB, however the backside DE is not blocked in this play. If that backside DE crashes down quickly to go after the RB the QB reads him and pulls the ball backside, keeping it for a run. Here is what the base zone read looks like:

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Very similar, here is what it looks like when run as a counter:

 

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The play designed to go to the frontside, however if the DE crashes it is a legitimate option for the QB to keep the ball, especially with a mobile QB like Brown. FSU's Defensive Ends notoriously play undisciplined football, which led to USF's freshamn QB B.J. Daniels continuing to pull the ball and run on the zone read plays. A couple notes to watch for are the difference between their version of Inside Zone and most inside zone schemes is they want their uncovered linemen to go straight to the 2nd level, and watch the playside tackle, as his relationship with the defender is really important because he is almost always 1-on-1.

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However, as with any scheme defenses began to adjust. Defenses began to always crash the defensive end, and they would roll the OLB to the backside to take the QB when and if he pulled the ball down to run. This technique is called a "scrape exchange" or more commonly just a "scrape." I would expect that FSU will use Will LB Nigel Bradham to scrape against WVU quite a bit as Jarrett Brown continues to pull the ball down and run with it. He is the best tackler on the team and has shown that in space he can handle these types of situations.

 

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via smartfootball.com

However, this is where West Virginia under Rich Rodriguez was an innovater (and Urban Meyer at Utah). It was very early in the spread zone read era when a third option was put into the play. There are two different versions of an option. The first is for the playside slot receiver (Y in the photo) to not block but actually establish a pitchback relationship with the QB. The other which really confuses the "scrape backer" is a bubble screen option to the backside. West Virginia has playmakers like Jock Sanders in the slot, and with the current coaching on FSU's defense I will assume that both of these wrinkles will give FSU fits all game. Maryland used the backside WR screen against FSU over and over and it continued to work for the entirety of the game. While the triple option is different from Paul Johnson's at Georgia Tech, the triple option from this look is difficult defend and FSU will struggle against that as well.

Rather than continue to talk about this, I will let the master himself identify exactly what they are trying to do with their options out of the spread look. While there isn't anything revolutionary in this video, Rich Rod does a good job of talking about exactly what the WVU offense is trying to do.

 

West Virginia runs some traditional spread passing and running plays (which have been discussed here in respects to Jimbo's offense and FSU's opponents) that are not predicated on the zone-read concept, however most of their offense is. Many of their downfield passing plays start with a play action to the inside zone back (usually Noel Devine)

Here is video of WVU running the triple option look out of the gun:


There is one last wrinkle to the zone-read spread that I also expect in the game from WVU. As the scrape exchange has helped defenses defend the backside, and defenses are staying at home more and more frequently against these plays because they know what to expect, some spread teams have moved to blocking the end and reading the DT from the backside. Instead of running outside, the QB will read the tackle and run inside very similar to the way that the traditional read of the DE is executed. With the amount of time WVU has to implement a game plan, and the video of how undisciplined we play along the front 4 I would expect to see this run a few times as well. From Chris at smartfootball.com:

This does a couple things for you. One, it can confuse the "scrape exchange" response, where the defensive end crashes to force a "pull" read by the quarterback while the linebacker loops outside for him, because the defensive end gets blocked and the QB should have a big gap inside. And, second, it gives you flexibility in who you choose to block versus read. As the old saying goes, if you can’t block them, read them.

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via smartfootball.com


Conclusion:

West Virginia had the 41st ranked offense (via footballoutsiders FEI rankings) in the country this year, while that isn't extremely high, they run a lot of the concepts that has given Florida State fits, especially making FSU defend 11 players by giving the QB the option to run quite often. They have a dynamic RB who has been running in a zone scheme for 3 years as well. I would expect the FSU defense to struggle mightily against WVU in this bowl contest. Florida State will have to score quite often to have a chance to win this game.

 



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Great job.

Much better than I could do. Here is my version:

What FSU could expect from West Virginia’s Offensive

About 520 yards.
The End.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Dec 17, 2009 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

+1

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Dec 17, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

One correction
Defenses began to always the defensive end

Not sure what you’re trying to say here.

by tdchrisdavis on Dec 17, 2009 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

Always crash the DE

365 days, until I change my ways.

by SWFLNole. on Dec 17, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Will try to fix

365 days, until I change my ways.

by SWFLNole. on Dec 17, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

great article! but im afraid i have to disagree w/ your assesment

its not like we’ve struggled against spreads this season, much less those predicated upon misdirection in the run game

by 000111 on Dec 17, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

Huh?

I wanted to comment on how great of a job SWFL did (on a side note, Devine is from SWFL’s, FSUn’s, and my neck of the woods), but I read this comment from Binary Code and now I’m frozen. We haven’t struggeld against spreads this season??? Speechless on that one.

by HROB3 on Dec 17, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad!

Totally went over my head! Re-read it after your explanation and laughed at myself, and your comment.

by HROB3 on Dec 19, 2009 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Devine

Should rush for 150+ on us.

Their QB is horribly hit or miss, but so was BJ Daniels. Problem that day was we didn’t score.

I just hope its not like the GT game. When on offense I stood and cheered success, when on D I sat and cussed failure. We should’ve won that one….

Go Noles!

Chop it up Seminoles!

by horsepowernole on Dec 17, 2009 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

anytime

we have had to guard 11(account for the QB) we’ve got lit for yards and points….Im just hopin EJ can match em for points and we make a stop on D when it counts.

by NOLEcasterWX on Dec 17, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

So what is the solution to countering this offense?

I know you spoke about the Bradham scrape.

What the hell is that thing where we use 0-2 DLs? Makes the read mighty difficult when there are no linemen to read, doesn’t it?

Or maybe we use Reid to spy the QB?

It also seems this whole thing is predicated upon 1-1 blocking. Don’t we have some DLs that can manhandle blockers when they aren’t being double-teamed?

Also, couldn’t we overload by blitzing backers into the gaps rather than waiting for the OL to block our LBs 5 yards down the field? or throw in some corner blitzes to screw up the zone scheme?

Seems like the more pressure we put up front, the less time WVU will have to read & react.

by NoleLaw on Dec 17, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

Coaching

You teach the defense not to over pursue and learn to read what the O is doing. Stuff like if you are running the scrape, If they block the End to attempt to run inside, the LB reads this and doesn’t over commit on the outside.

The 1 down linemen is the Prowler formation.

It is predicated on zone blocking, not hat on hat. And no, we have no DL’s that can manhandle anyone.

"We'll win games with talent, but we'll win championships with character and intelligence."

by SteadfastNole on Dec 17, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

What the hell is that thing where we use 0-2 DLs? Makes the read mighty difficult when there are no linemen to read, doesn’t it?

They read the gap, not the player. So if no one is there then it would default to a give/take keep depending on pre-snap reads.

by gahnki on Dec 17, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris at smart football broke down how to defend against the zone read.

Blitzing this type of offense is not an option. You also do not want to get in short yardage situations. We need to keep WV bottled up and force them to beat us with the pass. Of course I expect this to be next to impossible. Here’s smartfootball’s take.

http://smartfootball.com/defending-spread/defending-the-zone-read-athleticism-and-the-scrape-exchange

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 17, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully our coaches have read that.

Short solution sounds like getting faster, particularly with the back 7, and let the back 7 read which way the play is going, then break on the ball.

If so, seems like the prowler, a qb spy, or even just going with 2 LBs and 5 DBs might help.

by NoleLaw on Dec 18, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps the best defense is for Bradham to play Kill the Quarterback.

I know you don’t want to wish injuries on anyone, but it’s part of playing the game-particularly if you constantly put your QB in a vulnerable position.

by NoleLaw on Dec 18, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

if anyone can do it, its Bradham...

hes just scary

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 18, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Coach Winters: Alright, this is Mississippi State’s offensive set. Second and two on our own 24, what defensive set might we call?
Alvin Mack: Eagle Zipper Hero, unless the setback shifts into the I.
Coach Winters: Good
[clicks to next slide]
Coach Winters: Third and seven?
Alvin Mack: Oakie Thunder Lion.
Coach Winters: What’s your assignment?
Alvin Mack: Kill the quarterback.
[clicks to next slide]
Alvin Mack: Hit the tight end so hard his girlfriend dies.
[clicks to next slide]
Alvin Mack: Kill everybody.

by tricknole on Dec 18, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 18, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice!!!

A The Program reference.

Get’s a Rec.

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher

by RishiM on Dec 19, 2009 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Midline Read

I really have never seen WVU read the DT (Midline Read as I like to call it)

The only team in D1 Football that I have seen use it is Oregon

Oregon used it for great success against all their opponents this year.

I could be wrong but i have never seen WVU run it

"Its called the Veer"

by EducatedSpear on Dec 17, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

I've seen a few teams run it

Oregon absolutely is the leader in running it.

It was an assumption on my part that our general lack of experience would lead to its implementation with the amount of time leading up to the game. Maybe I should have stated it more clearly.

If I was the OC I would against us, its fairly easy to do.

365 days, until I change my ways.

by SWFLNole. on Dec 17, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Also Very good comment and Welcome

Love to see people who know football contributing.

365 days, until I change my ways.

by SWFLNole. on Dec 17, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

I enjoyed the post.

I will talk X’s and O’s with anybody

"Its called the Veer"

by EducatedSpear on Dec 18, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

....

Im a former player and an aspiring coach

"Its called the Veer"

by EducatedSpear on Dec 18, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice writeup

SWFLNole. I have seen Mr. Devine Intervention a couple of games this year and he is like a little water bug. I expect him to light us up and I’m hoping this game doesn’t get ugly. If you overpursue he can cut against the grain on a dime and shifts gears in the blink of an eye. For anyone who hasn’t seen him yet here is a highlight film from last year. His runs this year have been just as exciting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp9MuxAszEM

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 17, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

Great write up SWFL

Enjoyed it and learned some things about WVU’s offense. We are in for some trouble in 2 weeks.

by andrewjmelnick on Dec 18, 2009 3:07 AM EST reply actions  

Really enjoyed this writeup.

Takes the viewing experience of the game up a notch. I usually see some of what you mention on the field but don’t understand how the whole scheme works together. It takes away the, AHHRGGG WHY DON"T THEY STOP THAT QB, and turns it into sigh, I know why they aren’t stopping it even though I don’t know how they would.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"

by FSUvaFan on Dec 18, 2009 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

And that would be one of FSU's defensive coaching staff :)

"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"

by FSUvaFan on Dec 18, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey TRMN

are you going to the game? Its not doak but I am getting down there, as you adamantley suggested a long while back.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"

by FSUvaFan on Dec 18, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll be there.

You’ll have a blast. Not much to Jax (hit the river if you’re there for New Year’s Eve), but Alltel works for a Nole off-campus gameday. (And certainly I’d have recommended this game over any home game in ’09, except for Miami.) Should be a great atmosphere. Not sure of my plans surrounding the game yet.

by TRMNole on Dec 21, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I expect anyone to score a lot of points against us

There just is no defense on our team this year, the question is how good is their defense? We have managed to put up some stellar numbers on Offense ourselves this season. Even against some really tough defenses, mostly with ponder behind center but E.J. has done alright since he was put in there. WVU’s D won’t be UF’s, EJ has seen one of the toughest defenses he will ever see in CFB at the swamp when we played the gayturds and with the extra time to practice I am sure our Offense will be ready to go. Add in the fact that at least some of the players will truly be motivated to go out and play their hearts out for Mickey and Bobby and we might be able to play keep away, control the clock, and put ourselves in a position to win it at the end.

by BS37FSU on Dec 18, 2009 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

Great job, SWFL

Their slot guys are going to wreak havoc on the hapless defense as they key on Devine

>>---l>

by DKfromVA on Dec 18, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

Excellent job, SWFL.

Perfect example of the content TN offers vs. what other FSU sites offer. Great teaching piece.

by TRMNole on Dec 18, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

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