Preview and Game Thread: Florida State Seminoles vs Ohio St. Buckeyes, 9:30pm EST
by TrueCubbie on Dec 2, 2009 1:37 PM EST
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Florida St. Seminoles at Ohio St. Buckeyes, Dec 2, 2009 9:30 PM EST
After winning the Old Spice Classic in an exciting one point victory over Marquette, the Seminoles travel to Columbus, Ohio to take on an excellent Ohio State team in the Big Ten/ACC Challenge. Tonight, FSU has the opportunity to complete the trifecta: SEC, Big East, Big Ten. It won't be easy as Ohio State is one of the most balanced teams in the country and is loaded with talent, despite departures to the NBA in the past few years.
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Game Time: 9:30pm EST
Television: ESPN2, ESPN360.com
After a thrilling victory over Marquette, the Seminoles jumped to #21 in the AP polls. Ohio State is ranked 15th in the AP and ESPN/USA today polls. Despite the winning ways, what appeared to be an efficient offense, typically with an Offensive Efficiency (points scored per 100 possession) in the 110-120s, the offense has slowed to an offensive efficiency of 98.5, 202nd in the country. Fortunately, and as expected, the defense continues to lead the way, currently ranking 3rd in the nation with a defensive efficiency of 75.8. Only Minnesota and Texas have better ratings and there are three ACC teams in the top ten for defensive efficiency. In the past three games, Seminoles fans have seen the growth of Michael Snaer, particularly in terms of minutes an his defensive skill. It is clear that he is committed to playing lock down man to man defense. He still has a lot to learn, but the intensity and effort are there.
Turnovers continue to plague the Seminoles, particularly in the first half of games. So far, FSU has turned the ball over on 26.4% of its possessions. Again, the defense has prevented any wicked turnover differentials by forcing its opponents to turn the ball over on 24.6% of possessions. A team can only get away with that for so long. Ohio State's defense generates turnovers at a rate of 22.6, which is quite good. However, they only turn the ball over on 15.5% of their possessions. One of the keys to the game will be Florida States ability to force Ohio State their most turnovers of the year. With the exception of North Carolina, Ohio State has yet to see a defense that compares to that of Florida State.
Ohio State enters the game at 5-1, only losing to North Carolina 77-73. The rest of their opponents include the following: Alcorn St, James Madison, California ( who was very injured at the time), Lipscomb and St Francis. In two of the 6 games, Ohio State has put up 100+ points, but against some of the worst defenses in the nation. Currently, Ohio State ranks 25th in the Ken Pomeroy Ratings. Florida State sits at 17. Ohio State has an offensive efficiency of 112.9, 36th in the nation, and a defensive efficiency of 90, 56th in the nation.
Here is Ohio State's likely starting lineup for tonight:
F #52 Dallas Lauderdale 6'8 255 Junior Solon, Ohio
G #21 Evan Turner 6'7 205 Junior Chicago, IL
G #23 David Lighty 6'5 220 Junior Cleveland, Ohio
G #33 Jon Diebler 6'6 205 Junior Upper Sandusky, Ohio
G #44 William Buford 6'5 190 Sophomore Toledo, Ohio
This is an experienced basketball team that is used to playing close, physical games. They do not have a single freshman on the roster, though they have one of the best recruiting classes in the country coming in to Columbus next year. The other thing to note is that they're not huge, but they not short either. This is a highly athletic hybrid team that wants create match up problems all over the floor. Fortunately, Florida State is able to do the same. Typically, when teams have gone small, forcing Florida State to do the same, the Seminoles continue to have a significant size advantage.
Evan Turner has been outstanding this year and this should be an interesting match up with Chris Singleton. Turner has been scoring 19.8 points per game in 34 minutes of play, pulling down 12.8 rebounds and shooting 62.5% from the floor with 6 assists. You might argue that Turner hasn't seen any good defenses. He scored 23 against UNC and shot 64% from the floor. The Buckeyes also have three other starters averaging double digits: Diebler (15), Lighty (12) and Buford (11). Jeremie Simmons and Kyle Madsen are getting signifcant minutes off the bench, but the Buckeyes don't go very deep into their bench. They do have seven foot Zisis Sarikopoulos, who may get more minutes tonight if the Seminoles can be effective early in the paint.
Florida State will continue with the following line up: Dulkys, Kitchen, Singleton, Reid and Alabi. However, don't be surprised if this quickly turns into the Kitchen, Dulkys(Loucks), Snaer, Singleton and Gibson lineup. Jordan Demercy played outstanding minutes during the Marquette game. Don't be surprised if he see minutes due to his defensive abilities and energy that he brings to the floor. Florida State's bench is deep and always presents match up problems. Depending on how this game starts will determine how long Coach Hamilton leaves Solomon Alabi in. Due to teams double and triple teaming the big man, he has had limited effective offensive minutes in the early going. His defensive continues to be stellar. But, with teams playing the press against the Noles, his ability to handle the ball and move in the open court can be a liability. Alabi needs to establish good position on the blocks and score early and force Ohio State out of their comfort zone.
Keys to the Game
1. Be proactive, not reactive. Florida State's opponents have dictated the Seminoles' lineup. Force Ohio State to react. Don't allow them to get ahead and force adjustments. Make them adjust.
2. Get the ball to Alabi in to the post early and often. Get early position and provide the big fella the ball before he gets pushed off the block. Set him up for success, meaning he doesn't need to put the ball on the floor to get into a better shooting position. He has been forced out of games due to turnovers. His defense will continue to be strong and he will control the paint. Making him an offensive force will make Ohio State reconsider their strategy.
3. Keep getting Snaer to shoot. Against Marquette, he had many open looks that he missed or rushed. Build his confidence and don't let him get frustrated. He is too big an asset on the defensive end of the court to not have in the game.
4. Turnovers. Enough said.
5. Shut down the big three. Limit Ohio States' scorers. Don't allow all three to go off during this game.
This could be a huge win for Florida State. Winning on the road against a Big 10 opponent only helps in the long run. Complete the trifecta: SEC-Big East-Big 10. Florida State has battled through its last three games and getting another win to reward them for their effort will help as they quickly approach ACC conference play.
Referees: Ed Hightower (Referee) Ted Hillary and John Higgins (Umpires). Hightower is a Big Ten/Big East referee and has called fair games all year. He has called the most games for Iowa and only 7.5% of his games has OSU been a part of.
Prediction: Florida State 68 Ohio State 63.
This is going to be an outstanding basketball game. Enjoy.
Cheers,
TC
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The ACC needs this game something terrible…Go Noles.
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Followup
For those fans who maybe don’t follow college basketball outside of FSU, and thus aren’t familiar with the ACC/Big Ten Challenge, the ACC has never lost. The ACC dropped the 1st three games of the series this year, but won the next 3 to even it up at 3-3 going into tonights games.
Last year, the ACC pulled it out 6 games to 5 (FSU lost to Northwestern).
I will be there
Perhaps only Seminole fan in whole place….
Sorry - Unfortunately no Twitter
This game should be interesting – both teams are unpredictable. Great talent with spotty execution…
Go Noles.
true
btw, did you see his face in his hands at about 11:00 to go (14 down) against Marquette? It seemed to me he was saying, “we’re just too tired, we can’t get this one back.” And to be honest, he looked genuinely surprised after the game.
No.
Are you talking about when he buried his face in his hands for literally a minute or two straight? I thought he was so pissed off he didn’t even want to watch the game. Thought he was seconds away from literally walking off the court.
People here say that about him too.
A lot remember him as the coach before Eddie Sutton at Ok state. A lot feel he also set the table for Sutton before he left for Miami.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Awesome!
Does she have twitter?
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
by RaysnNoles on Dec 2, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, nor would you want her analysis
I’m sure it would involve what people in the stands are wearing.
365 days, until I change my ways.
You will be surprised at how quiet the Schott is. Acoustics were built like an NBA arena. It will feel very much like a common NBA game, if you are familiar with it.
Opened in 1998.
The fans sure as heck didn’t know it. The Bucks used to play at St. Johns Arena which is college basketball at its essence- loud, run down, cramped, and fun to be in. But as with many things in life, the allure of a newer building and higher gate attendance won out. It honestly feels like a morgue in there for less high-profile games.
What is the name of the OSU poster who checks in us regularly?
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
That's it, thanks,
ghanki,
If you read this in time, will you please give us your thoughts on this matchup. I, as well as most of us here, have always appreciated your comments.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
TC
Great analysis…as always.
I’ve watched OSU a couple of times this year, and this is a GOOD basketball team. They are very athletic, and Lighty is hard to contain. Turner is one of the best in the Big 10, and maybe even the country.
IMO, A win tonight doesn’t come easy. As TC said, the Noles will have to limit their turnovers, and will have to play great defense (which they can do). OSU has a ton of experience, and I really don’t recall many self-inflicted wounds when watching them play.
Let’s hope the boys bring their A game tonight. We need to win this one badly. The ACC is counting on us, bigtime, and a win looks great on the resume in March.
GO NOLES
by DamonH on Dec 2, 2009 2:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Agree
I could see a 10 pt FSU win or a 15 pt loss. A lot of it revolves around slowing down Turner. I don’t see Singleton matching up with him very well. Hope I’m wrong.
One of my keys to the game (other than what you've listed)
is keeping Singleton out of foul trouble.
Just moved to Boston from Ohio two weeks ago...
otherwise I would be at this game. Of course it happens now that I’m finally gone…I guess i’ll have to settle for the BC game…
Very interested to see how we handle Turner as well. Like Doak said, a big key to this game revolves around slowing him down. Hopefully, Ham will scheme (those two words don’t go together i know) if he starts to heat up….
Personally
I’m waiting for FSU to put it all together. All the pieces are present. They just have to get going on the offensive end.
The thing that troubles me about this game
Is the difference in scoring depth.
OSU has 4 guys average significant double figures. FSU has 2, and they are both sub 14 points/game.
We all know how brutal the offense has been against decent competition. We have scored 52 (L), 54(W), 60 (W), and 57(W), in the first real games of the season. The press contributed to that offensive inefficiency, and it will be interesting to see if OSU presses. Which brings me to my next point…
OSU does not appear to be particuarly deep. As an example, OSU only played 8 guys against UNC. The three off the bench combined for a total of 46 player minutes and 12 points off the bench.
I’d like to see FSU get to the line in this game, put OSU’s starters in foul trouble. Unfortunately, I haven’t been real impressed with anyone off the dribble this year, which is the best way, in my opinion, to get teams in foul trouble.
My score prediction- OSU 68, FSU 61
we have scoring depth
just haven’t score as much as them. Gibson can score off bench and you just keep waiting for Snaer to go off. Is gonna happen, just a matter of how soon. Even Reid, with his lack of natural ability, gets to the line and is becoming an adequate shooter. He can knock down the 10 ft shot when teams leave him open (never thought I’d type those last 2 sentences). having said that, I would love to see LH start Snaer over Reid for D. Looking at the lineups and our past few games against similar small, quick teams it is inevitable that we’ll have to go to that lineup very quickly. LH doesn’t operate that way though.
DK can get his off dribble and, indeed, that is his strength. Unfortunately, him playing PG diminishes that facet of his game. Add to that his obvious discomfort at playing PG and the situation isn’t ideal. Hopefully, Loucks can take more PG mins as season progresses. He is the only true PG ready to play at this point and does make a huge difference in running the team. That’s acknowledging his quickness challenges. Snaer also can get his off the dribble, just can finish yet. That will come.
He just wasn't very good at his job
He never should have been hired in the first place so he was set up to fail, IMO.
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
So FSU Un
How do I post from my blackberry? – I don’t twitter, but I facebook (and I have a browser)
What’s the mobile page URL?
Don't know much about Ohio State..
..seems like they are a pretty good team….I hope Alibi has a hell of a game and I believe that if the Seminoles offense can go 10 turnovers or under they can beat anyone on any given day in the country..I have a feeling that we are going to be trying to make a comeback the whole game though due to early turnovers…
Noles over Ohio State 68-66
I don't believe
the FSU offense will go under 10 turnovers a game that often this season…
based on the amount of big men we play
We trade TOs, really, for better D (shot blocks). Probably the way to look at TOs more effectively is by looking at TOs divided by blocks (ok just made that up). 3 or 4 to 1 is a little ugly, but serviceable.
Tremendous write-up. I’m glad you mention the 2010 class; if Evan “The Villain” Turner sticks around next year then there are legitimate hopes for a national title.
If anyone has time to kill before the game, check out one of the best blogs on the net-Club Trillion.
It’s written by an Ohio State walk-on basketball player by the name of Mark Titus. He’s a very talented and humorous writer who really provides an inside look at the OSU program.
If you can only read one post tonight, I BEG you to read this one: Stuck in an Elevator. Get to the timeline and you will die with laughter, I promise.
IF all 3 games stay the way they are
This thing is over…no more pressure on the Noles.
Looks like Clemson about to lose
75-74 Illinois, UI about to go to the line and 8 secs to go.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
BC up 8 on Michigan with 20 secs to go
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
it was me asking on JTV
i.e.
I’m FightFan3
:)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Karl Ravich
“The Seminoles can really light up the scoreboard”
Really?
Yeah...
I think they’re just hyping the game, with no real statistical evidence.
nah, wouldn't want ESPN to ruin their rep
of no substance and all hype
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Bench Reid already!
The guy has no midrange shot, even wide open. If he doesn’t understand how to put it on the floor and get into his own range, he’s useless!
Reid needs to at least learn that he can't shoot
Every time he makes a bucket it’s bittersweet because it will only encourage him to shoot more.
Let me fix that for you:
The guy has no midrange shot, even wide open. If he doesn’t understand how to put it on the floor and get into his own range, he’s useless!
No, I'm fed up. Hamilton is a terrible coach.
by tdchrisdavis on Dec 2, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Hey guys, just let #33 sit on the perimeter and shoot
It’s a good strategy. Working well
Singleton got confused and threw the ball in the stands, think he was expecting help.
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12-6 but another turnover
Ibid – number 5
by CelticPride on Dec 2, 2009 9:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
FSUN
Will you lift the cussing ban if we have more turnovers than points at halftime?
lol heard this and couldnt help but smile
at the uninformed informants :)
by freshcollegeboy on Dec 2, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Challening a ton of shots and deflecting passes. Need to hustle for the loose balls.
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TrueCubbie, is Alabi blowing your mind this year
or was this expected? I expected him to beast it out but he’s playing awful as far as I can see….
Alabi is awful this year
He hasn’t improved from last year. He got a lot more single coverage last year with Douglas. Now teams swarm him and he has no offensive game to counter it.
His defense is where I expected it to be. He has only played organized basketball for 5 years. Learning how to play offense on the block is an art.
You can just dribble and be agood shoter. So I’m really not surprised. And he is getting a ton of attention from opponents. Double and triple teamed. He’ll get there. NEeds to be a lot stronger in the lower body to get position and keep it on the low post and not get pushed off the block.
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I'm sorry that's a travel
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
OSU, isn't making us rush our entry passes
so we shouldn’t especially since they don’t seem to be wanting to double right away.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
A "semi contested" shot
I have been watching basketball my whole life, and I’ve never heard that.
Fran is correct
Demercy was late challenging that 3
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Basketball is a strange place
where old white men make young white men feel less than their darker counterparts.
but i digress
Kitchen got caught trying to cheat underneath
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
we've got a 3:1 turnover to assist ratio
YIKES!
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
at 3:1 yes, not that we don't have a good ratio
but it’s not that bad normally (is it?)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Don't you guys know to only watch the final 7min
LH strategy: Play man defense, where out other team hope team has enough energy to hit enough shots to win it
I HATE those type of foul calls
i.e. no foul if it goes in
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
im gonna be that guy
there is some home-cookin go on tonight
kitchen needs to score
or go sit on the bench
blown call gives them possession via the arrow (?)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
yes 2 early fouls (prior to the under 16)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
get ready for this fellas
gonna be ugly all year. sadly they will win enough to make it interesting, but goodness. can we buy some offense?
thank you!
kitchen should never leave the baseline
I really hate Jon Saunders
go announce hockey
by Bud Elliott on Dec 2, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He's got a lot of goodwill with me
since he’s from the T-Dot
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
T-Dot = Toronto, Ontario
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
It's just what we call it
the t-dot or the t-dots, don’t try to overthink it
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Jon Saunders announcing hockey?
Darius Rucker called, he wants his unexpected place to see an African American male back.
Gotto quit cheating underneath on the screens
in the 2nd half
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Gotta do somethign on those screens. Anything is better than what we are doing now.
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Bench every one of those lazy kids
We’re getting out-hustled all night. Sloppy passes and lazy rebounding are getting us killed. The refs have been horrible too, but that’s not why we’re losing. Our kids are flat-out lazy tonight and it’s gonna cost us the game.
how about we just get in a fist fight with them.
with our length we definitly have the reach advantage.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Roy Jones was my man
especially after he got screwed in Seoul in 88’
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
was just about to post
saved me the trouble of having to find the link (I have the page saved)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
That kind of looks like a throw
Never been hit with boxing gloves but Roy looks like he was trying to throw it
In fact the more I watch it
The more I get angry for Roy.
Someone told him to throw it. He wasn’t injured for shit; that Danny guy’s bunches were like buttered wheat.
That fight was weak…Boxing appeared very corrupt
I missed a lot fo the first 30 mins
as I was concentrating on the B-Hop fight until 10p; had our game on, but wasn’t “really” watching.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Matt, you better be careful before I make you my bottom bitch...
That’s how we roll in the P-Cola…the West side of the 850
Ha! I rented a place on Innerarity Island before the storms.
Where you at now?
still nice
although nothing can erase that loss at the o’connell center.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Hey look... I need you to do me a huge favor...
Could you please take your screen name off of all your posts? Thanks. Hurry. Please.
I hope we can still be friends.
And that you can forgive me for ruining your marriage and costing you millions of dollars in sponsorships.
kthnxbai
I jinxed us...
I was planning on doing a “Things that are more competitive than the ACC-Big 10 Challenge” Offbeat Friday this week.
Speaking of tiger woods...
Buy a damn pre-paid cell phone and keep it in your gold bag for when you go out of town. Cheating is dumb but cheating on HER is ridiculously dumb. Hell, you can probably buy every gas station in Orlando that sells pre-paid cells
missed fsu fts on the other hand...
by CelticPride on Dec 2, 2009 10:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
JD is winning me over
someone must have cleaned the sht out of his ears. good for him.
Did you guys know that it's harder to shoot 3's when someone is in your face?
God bless these commentators. Awful. Nice steal by Singleton, but FAILS to follow. Awful
That's for sure.
Refs totally took Singleton out of the game. I’d like to see how OSU would have done without their star in the game. And the mystery foul on Kitchen was one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. Right up there with the tech on AJ during that Duke game a couple years ago and every foul that’s ever called while D-Wade is shooting.
by seminoleballer on Dec 3, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
At least we are committed to working inside this half
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
We should get in the bonus early this half
hopefully we’ll start to hit a few of the FTs as well
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Both the good steal/layup and the bad 2 missed open 3’s
by CelticPride on Dec 2, 2009 10:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
jd just needs to play within himself
know your role!
Demercy should've taken a "rhythm dribble" before that last 3 attempt
didn’t catch it clean and it threw off the timing of the shot
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
rythm dribble to the rim
kid can jump out of the gym. dont settle when you are not a shooter.
Me too, man...I wanna win this one. Badly.
OSU spanked my alma mater…The Noles are my last hope.
I hate Ohio State…what a buncha dooshes. Except Ghanki. He was cool
I was hoping that we'd go into Alabi on that last possession early
but did get a wide open 3, unfortunately a bad pass threw off the good poss.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
it's 37-28 with 13:43 to go
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Nice Alabi pulling a Moses Malone
missing no purpose to pad the RB stats (not really, but threw it out there anyways) :)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
They're killing us from 3
What are we 0 for 50?
by CelticPride on Dec 2, 2009 10:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
fsu needs ball rotation
alabi needs help to get position
play defense and play your game
dont worry about OSUs shots
Wow. How profound.
Those shots are obviously gonna stop going down soon.
43-32 with 11:45 to go (under 12 timeout)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Only 3 2nd half turnovers after 9 in the 1st half
2nd half problems have been 3-ball and ft’s… i’d rather fix the turnovers and hope the shots go down
is CHam going to coach here?
32 pts… pathetic.
I would like Hamilton to be gone
There has to be some coach out there better than Hamilton that can take one of the best rosters in the nation and actually do something with it.
settle down
i am no CHam fan… but who do you think wants to be at FSU?
Good thing we have a shooting coach.
by MattDNole on Dec 2, 2009 11:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we don't need to force bad 3's
We can still win this on the inside with some steals and stops
by CelticPride on Dec 2, 2009 11:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
should have left him in the first
taking players out with 2 in the first will kill you
our bigs are getting the rep as soft
bad news for foul calls moving forward
FSU needs to give up on the big lineup
dont have the guard play to pull it off. FSU “Starting small” is still pretty big. move on.
Yeah bad on O tonight
Clearly we lack identity still on that side of the ball… oh, TD if you were only a year younger….
Is it Christmas in Ohio already or what?
Noles have played decent D, but good Lord OSU is making everything from beyond the arc…
Uhmmm....how much did the NCAA pay to get the Big 10 to win the challenge this year?
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Tell cincy and TCU the playoffs
The firt weekend of the season
by CelticPride on Dec 2, 2009 11:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Really Kitchen. YOu should know better that you're getting chased. use the rim to protect the shot.
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Refs never call the in the cylinder goaltending on a fastbreak
on plays like the Kitchen/Turner layup/block (this clearly wasn’t a goaltending)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
About time we hit a 3
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
wow we hit a 3
5 min left down 16
by CelticPride on Dec 2, 2009 11:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
kitchen should not be allowed at the top of the key
goto the baseline.
Too many of those soft passes on the outside got stolen today
the majority of our 2nd half turnovers were like that and a few of them led to true fastbreak opps for OSU
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
looks like we lose the challenge
by CelticPride on Dec 2, 2009 11:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
How long before we see Snaer start
2 weeks? Like CLH said?
this is more embarassing
than taking a laxative and a sleeping pill at the same time.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
My friend sent a text...
Im studying for finals and unable to watch.
Has it really been another example of wayyyy too many TOs?
Thanks TC
how about you do me a favor and consdense the 600+ posts and tell me what the hell happened in one beautiful brief synopsis.
The Big10 would like to thank Clemson and the refs in the FSU OSU game for the win
by El Soro on Dec 2, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
we got it to 14
But they hit a dagger 3
by CelticPride on Dec 2, 2009 11:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Dear Coach Hamilton
Please switch to zone.
Learn how to use the full court press when you have a big athletic team.
Please teach team basketball and meaningful offensive motion, such as basket-cutting and 3 different ways to use a pick and roll.
Best,
Ryan
A match up 2-3
Is like Alabama’s football defense.
Its hard to teach, but even harder to get through
If you can play a match-up 3-2, look out, no one can stop you.
I like this kid
experience means nothing when the freshman gives you a better chance to win
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
I'm good with this as Dulkys isn't the defender or ballhandler that Snaer is
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
Well, he hasn't shown he can consistently score IMO
Which is what we need. I love the kids hustle, and he’s tenacious. I say
To lighten the mood.
The link that the Ohio State fan posted earlier IS hilarious.
http://clubtrillion.blogspot.com/2009/01/love-in-elevator.html
This stuff is FUNNY
snaer on a 4-1 run
Down to 12 w 96 secs
by CelticPride on Dec 2, 2009 11:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hamilton is "teaching"
What the HELL could he be teaching?
I think the key to success
Just hit him the face like a rubarb pie
He's saying
I save my best for when its too late
Have a good one everyon...thanks for sticking around. Rough night. Three points and Turnovers were the story of the game.
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Yay cLH
Way to lose with superior talent yet again.
And the hard part watching this is that you can see there is so much passion in his face; so much will to be there. He just disconnects when it comes down to it…
Does not compute
Positives:
Alabi continues to show he can be a big time player. Its not easy for a big man to score over 20 pts, work the glass decently, and stay out of foul trouble against a talented team.
Snaer might be off the snide
kitchen had 6 assists
It seems espn lied to me earlier.
kitchen only had 4 assists.
Negatives
We continue to suck in the first half. Only Alabi really showed up.
shooting. Dulkys 0-6; Singleton 3-10; Gibson 0-2; demercy 1-5
Turnovers 20! highlighted by singleton (6) and snaer (5)
assist t/o ratio. Only 2 guys were positive. team was 10/20
shot blocking. 1 block!
perimeter defense.
Demercy and Reid
These two are not ACC caliber players, yet Hamilton plays them start minutes. Those two are terrible. They are killing your team. FSU’s starting lineup should be Snaer, Dulkys, Kitchen, Singleton, and Alabi.
Captain Kool Aid sez:
We’re going to be fine. Did you SNAER out there? The guy is truly an insane talent. In actuality, this game was lost as soon as they tagged Singleton with a couple quick, cheap fouls. He is our only aggressive offensive player at this point in the season, and our offense consistently stalls without him on the court (and is only erratic, at best, while he is ON the court).
That said… for the future… If we get either Snaer consistently creating off the dribble OR Dulkys finally hitting shots from outside, we will have too many threats for most teams to defend. Both of those guys should be averaging double digits. One of them most certainly will be before long.
I think the team truly is still showing their youth, but will steadily progress until, by mid-ACC season, we will be among the top 4 teams in the league…. not necessarily reflected in our record at that point, but performance-wise, with the potential to go on a serious run to close the season.
As always… I am still optimistic!
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