An Open Letter to the Bowdenista's and a Olive Branch-Sort of
by FrankDNole on Dec 2, 2009 10:46 AM EST
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The Bowdenites have called those of us seeking change "Bobby haters." That's fine, no big deal, get it out of your system, threaten to never attend another game, and then say you have lost all respect for FSU, that's your right.
But just to be clear, I am not a Bobby hater, I am a FSU lover. If you look back over every single story, post, or comment have ever written, you will find that I have never insulted Bobby. I have supported FSU football emotionally and financially since 1978 (I was called a petulant kid recently and I found it very flattering, thank you). If you were to reread anything I have ever written, you will see that I felt it was time for a change, and I always stated the change should come at the end of the season, preferably by Bobby retiring. I never called for Bobby to be fired mid-season or at all, I just did not want his contract renewed and only wish Bobby would have done what is right for FSU by retiring, on his own this time, for a change.
Apparently TK, Randy, the majority of the fan base, and the boosters who contribute much more than me agreed, and the right decision was made for FSU, again for a change.
I have been using the word circus, to describe FSU for months, and this final fiasco from the administration in having 2 players face the national media is just one of the 3 rings that is presently the FSU circus. At least TK's and Randy's (hopefully) last act was to finally grow a pair and give Bobby his ultimatum, which I believe was way past due and ultimately the right decision for FSU..
Now that the Jimbo era has begun, I am willing to wait and see if the program improves to a level becoming FSU in the next 4 years (Jimbo will probably be signing a 5 year deal), and if not I will once again be calling for a change. However, to expect a NC next year, or even the year after, as some of the readers have suggested, is insane and illogical. Jimbo cannot rebuild what has been neglected for 8 years overnight and he should be given the opportunity and time to right this keeling FSU ship that I love.
Also, those of us that thought Bobby should retire and demanded change are not the ones that will not give Jimbo a fair shake, it is the Bobby-was-wronged and the Bobby-should-go-out-on-his-own-terms crowd who will divide FSU further, and never give Jimbo a fighting chance.
I too am glad none of the Bowdenista's are my family members, and I too do not want to share the stadium with those who want to rename FSU the Bobby Bowden University, and won't even give Jimbo a chance. Hopefully Jimbo starts turning this program around next year with a fully functional coaching staff and at least have us competing for the conference championship.
Then, if those Bobby lovers decide to come back, great. If not, you will not be missed.
Bobby gothellaswag.
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Bowdens & Jimbo
Re Bobby-haters, FSU fans shouldn’t disapprove of Bobby for coaching at FSU until now-he was just trying to pursue his own interests (e.g., win most games, make most $, etc.) like the rest of us. FSU fans should disapprove of FSU admin for re-newing his contract for so many years when they shouldn’t have. In short, FSU fans should disapprove of Bobby’s bosses, not Bobby.
Re: Jimbo-haters, Jimbo has a stunning resume: he won at Auburn, won a national championship at LSU (where he made JaMarcus look good!), and made FSU’s offense the best in the ACC the last 2 years with a divided & dysfunctional program.
Btw, there are currently ZERO Bowdens coaching in D1 football. Wow.
That would be great Hey even if you suck JF can make you look so good that you can be a first round
I would buy that.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Source: Bobby heading to ND, taking Terry as OC, Tommy as DC, and Jeff as recruiting coor.
This will put them all back in DIV 1 coaching.
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You know what in 2 years all The Bowdenites
Can kiss our @$$e$. Thats if they are still alive to see the changes that are going to happen at FSU. If the boosters come back great if not we will just have to kick some major Butt and get new ones. When I become rich (or at least get promoted to a rank where I dont live pay check to pay check Ill get into all that and help out where I can.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
They're not going anywhere. They will renew their season tickets, send in their dues, and not go to the games and give away their tickets. Same as they have been doing anyway.
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by FrankDNole on Dec 2, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You can donate
as little as $25 I believe….
Bill McGrotha used to say
That those who aren’t passionate about something lead lukewarm lives.
For years many folks have been passionate about Bobby Bowden- his warmth and charm, his religious convictions, the stories of helping kids from broken homes. They are emotionally invested in the Story of Bobby Bowden. Most saw his decline and could admit it on an intellectual level, but we’re emotional creatures too, and that shapes our thinking. This has been harder on them than us. They did not see the public embarassment, decline in ticket sales, attendance, contributions, mechandise and TV revenues, or losing to our rivals, as sufficent reasons for not letting Bobby do it again next year. They don’t think $20 million paid to Bobby for the Lost Decade is enough. They hate what has happened, so they lash out at those who acted to fix the situation, at Jimbo Fisher, at anybody except the true cause of Bobby’s dismissal— that would be too hard to admit to themselves.
We are in the camp that it is FSU that deserves our passion and the emotional investment. Those who love Bobby foremost often respond that Bobby IS FSU. That’s Darnell Docket Logic and doesn’t begin to make any sense. A man is not a school. One coach is not the only who could have brought success at FSU anymore than at one man at miami. People loved FSU before and during Bobby’s connection, and they will afterwards. Those are the fans I want to sit by.
If the Bowden First camp wants to complain and undermine FSU’s efforts to fix what’s broken, it’s best that they make good on their threats and just leave.
Personally, I won't miss them if they are that out of touch with reality.
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Back before Al Gore invented the internet, there was Bill McGrotha with his press hat on, giving the Democrat readers our daily FSU fix.
After I left Tally, his articles about FSU would very often appear in the Miami Herald fish wrapper.
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I loved gettnig up on Sunday mornings and
reading about the glories of FSU football through the eyes of the only, and best, media cheerleader we’ve ever had.
Pretty good Frank
I have insulted Bobby but now more than being called a playstation all american myself and an ebay person. Some of my pics are not always flattering but I don’t apologize.
Frankly I would be tickled to death if they hired Dave Hart back again and fire Spetman.
Playstation All American, right again! AKA The Vulture per Bobby Bowden
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Better to bear the rebuke of the wise than to hear the song of fools
I agree with waiting but I'd only give him 3. to be in the top 10 nationally.
a. he’s already recruited a little towards his goals…it’s not like he just stepped off the plane in tallahasee. ( i know he’s been half staffed recruiting, but he’s still pulled in top 10 caliber classes for a couple years)
2. Half the culture war is over on offense…just has to change the culture defensively and that should be easy to do since the staff will be ovehauled and several key players were actually recruited by his staff any way.
d. I think 3 years is long enugh to tell what ANY leader can do with ANY organization provided they have unfettered access.
top 5 or 10 by 2012.
Yeah, right!
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