Florida Gator's Head Coach Urban Meyer to Resign
by Bud Elliott on Dec 26, 2009 7:00 PM EST
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Citing health reasons, the University of Florida announced that head coach Urban Meyer will resign due to health reasons. This is a complete shock. Details as to his condition or ailment are unknown at this time, but a source close to UF indicated that Meyer has a heart condition. More to come as information is known.
This release from the University of Florida:
Urban Meyer is stepping down as coach of the Florida football team, athletics director Jeremy Foley announced Saturday afternoon in a release.
"I have given my heart and soul to coaching college football and mentoring young men for the last 24-plus years and I have dedicated most of my waking moments the last five years to the Gator football program," Meyer said in statement. "I have ignored my health for years, but recent developments have forced me to re-evaluate my priorities of faith and family.
"After consulting with my family, Dr. Machen, Jeremy Foley and my doctors, I believe it is in my best interest to step aside and focus on my health and family.
"I'm proud to be a part of the Gainesville community and the Gator Nation and I plan to remain in Gainesville and involved with the University of Florida.
"I'm very appreciative for the opportunity I've had to be a part of a tremendous institution - from Dr. Machen to Jeremy Foley and the entire administrative staff at UF. I'm also very thankful for the chance to work with some of the best assistants in college football and coach some of the best college football players and watch them grow both on and off the field as people. I will cherish the relationships with them the most."
Meyer will coach his last game in the Sugar Bowl January 1st.
Meyer checked into a hospital the night after the SEC Championship game for what sources termed "dehydration". This is from Bruce Feldman's twitter page:
Stunned to hear #Urban Meyer resigning, although a coach I know ran into him 2 weeks ago & said he looked so gaunt he barely recognized him.
For the first time ever, both Florida and Florida State will have new head coaches in the same season. Florida also lost its longtime defensive coordinator, Charlie Strong, who is now Louisville's head coach, and its best offensive assistant, Billy Gonzalez, who left to take the offensive coordinator position at LSU. With National Signing Day coming February 5th, UF must quickly find successors to Meyer, or risk what was shaping up as the top recruiting class in the nation. That recruiting class is especially important as the Gators will likely lose up to 12 players to the NFL, including multiple underclassmen.
This could result in Florida State signing the state's top 8 players, particularly Matt Elam, who liked Florida State better than UF but had an extremely close relationship with Urban Meyer.
More on the brain cyst:
In a story published by Sports Illustrated this week, Meyer revealed that doctors discovered an arachnoid cyst on his brain when he worked as an assistant coach at Notre Dame in 1998.
According to the report, doctors didn't consider the cyst to be life-threatening but told Meyer he could suffer from head pain if the condition flared up because of stress.
Best wishes to Meyer and his family.
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I know this is a story about Meyer
but is your feeling that many things will change for FSU and recruits over this?
Do you think Strong takes the Louisville HC if he knows UM would be stepping down?
a la, this is a surprise to everyone?
No, come on.
That’s a little ridiculous.
by Drew J Jones on Dec 26, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Charlie Strong would have been the HC 30 min after the announcement had he not been offered the Louisville job. He's a phenomenal coach, and the Gator Nation loves him.
by Randall W. Spetman on Dec 27, 2009 6:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe FU didn't want strong as a HC?
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
Not with Meyer there.
I wonder how much it would cost to buy him out of his UL contract…
I bleed Garnet and piss Gold.
Even if he did...
any buyout he would need could easily be provided in “bonus money” from the Gata boosters. At this point, that would probably amount to a small fortune, too!
I bleed Garnet and piss Gold.
Dont Forget
About mr donovan , who was signed to a PRO team (orlando magic if anyone forgot) – and the gaytor community was able to get him back. I would not be surprised at all if Strong came back. In fact that was the first thing that I thought of when I heard the news
by LETSGONOLES on Dec 26, 2009 11:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is definitely a surprise to everyone.
It came about after the SEC CG game when he was hospitalized.
Elam and Dunk are both EEs
I think they have until January somthing to ultimately decide.
In theory
In theory an EE is just a student at a school and not part of a team yet. So they could transfer w/o sitting out b/c they never signed a LOI. In effect it is like going to a CC for a semester.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 26, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
If, say, a guy like Elam sent his EE papers to UF
could he just not show up for classes and enroll at FSU? Or is that already binding?
i have a friend
who registered for classes in georgia, decided to change her major that the school didn’t have, then transferred to ucf the day before classes.
dont know if its the same for athletes, but students can do it.
It depends on whether or not the sign a LOI
FYI – LOI are not required by the NCAA
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
I know you can do that.
But is enrolling at UF “binding” per NCAA? Or does it not become binding (considering no LOI yet) until you literally walk into your first class?
Elam sent EE papers to UF, FSU and WVU
so he can (if he passes NCAA and University standards) be admitted as an EE to any of those 3 schools ONLY. If he wanted to go to another school, he’d have to wait until Feb. to sign and be a summer/fall enrollee like most other recruits.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Ahhh!
So they are not enrolled in school yet! I know the kids are allowed to participate in Spring Practice when they EE… That is always what I have wondered about. How do these kids get done with HS a half year early?
Yes. Timing is interesting.
Maybe he’s getting his life in order to coach the Jags. OR… since he played the “family” card, maybe he’s been banging a co-ed.
Didn't Elam...
Sign on December 18th? Or did he wait and still hasn’t officially enrolled at uf?
Didn't sign.
That’s in February. That was a deadline for EE paperwork, apparently. And I haven’t found anyone yet to say the rules here.
He's a douche
But you’ve gotta hope his health is ok ultimately. Now as for those recruits on the fence . . .
Let’s see, DC, OC and HC gone . . . come on kids. Come to Tally.
He’s actually a very nice man. I understand that rivalries can affect your opinion of people but UM is a much nicer person than comes across on television.
Of course he's nice to recruits...
after living in Gainesville for 2 years, I rarely heard anyone say anything about him being “nice”…In fact, I mosdtly heard the opposite.
Fortunately for UM he doesn’t get paid for being “nice”
by Randall W. Spetman on Dec 27, 2009 7:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No problem w/ Meyer at all ...
Spurrier was another story … Johnson from Miami was also another story.
Meyer is classy …
Maybe this was the reason he didn’t express interest & Notre Dame did not go hard after him.
Meyer trashes FSU in the recruiting process every chance he gets, what are you talking about
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Not to mention whining about officiating
everytime UFAG loses. I wish him the best in terms of his health. But he was the enemy,and conducted himself exactly as such.
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 26, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
In a story published by Sports Illustrated this week, Meyer revealed that doctors discovered an arachnoid cyst on his brain when he worked as an assistant coach at Notre Dame in 1998.
Florida: Meyer dehydrated after loss
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
wow
hope it hasn’t returned….this isn’t the way I’d want to see our advantage over FU come back.
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Dec 26, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
I feel sorry for him and it's a awful way to have to leave
but as long as we return to glory without sanctions, I don’t care how it comes about.
hope he's ok
can’t really say anything except a John Madden post. Huge blow to florida.
I would think the opposite
Personally, I would not like to play for a bunch of cry babbies. Aren’t may teams (including FSU) losing a beloved coach and a class of seniors? I hope UM is OK, but the theatrics are a bit much.
Huge blow to the gators
Just like you don’t want to see an opposing player get hurt, you don’t want to see this either. Coach Meyer is going out at the top of his profession.
He Feared the New Spear!
My first post. Been reading TN for almost 2 years now. Working on the avitar.
Fear the Spear!
I actually tried to beat the press..
and be the first to anounce it on TN.
Ya’ gotta be quick around here.
Fear the Spear!
me too
ya two people had beat me to it within a minute of the announcement lol
It's a fruitless task
to attempt to beat the press/insiders/writers on TN. This merry band of goons is a sharp bunch who undoubtedly has shelled out many a sexual favor to a lonely secretary for insider information.
But that’s why we love them.
by Randall W. Spetman on Dec 27, 2009 7:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, he had a real bad case of being a jerk.
No doubt the fact that Tebow and Strong will be leaving made a difference.
If he really does have healt problems, I hope he gets well and my prayers are with him about that.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
Exactly what I was thinking.
You posted just as I was typing it.
Fear the Spear!
This'll be an interesting hiring decision
Who’s even left, especially when it comes to OC or DC hires, let alone head coach?
I'm thinking it would be interesting...
if we got Sal and this is Smart’s ticket to HC
Fear the Spear!
Wow
i was shocked when i saw this on espn. I can’t imagine the havoc this will play with UF. The best choice a couple of weeks ago would have been Strong, but he has a job now. The OC left last year. There is just nobody left in house who can just keep the show rolling. The hot lower tiered coach of the year was Kelly and he has his dream job now. This should stick a cloud of uncertainty over UF that will last well into next year. This recruiting class should fall apart. The work done with kids like Lemay and maybe even Wilder for next year could fall apart. Their offense may have to learn a completely different scheme next year. Kids who came to play for UM may feel no attachment to the new staff and bolt for the NFL at first chance. This could set UF back for years.
But on the down side
Bad thing is he will forever go down as THE coach to all Gators and we don’t have a single win over the guy.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 26, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Who cares?
I don’t. We all know Bobby and the FSU program were a shell of its self under Meyer’s “reign”.
agreed tricknole
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule reseident broncos fan for ap lol
In 30 years this won't really mean much.
We just have to beat them and this will all be a thing of the past.
i agree with osceolafan850
I have the most annoying gator friends… I will have to hear the “Fsu never beat Urban Meyer” excuse for the next 30 years..
reply with:
The Great Steve Spurrier hadn’t beaten FSU in Tallahassee in six tries, including the NC year.
reply with
He had no business NOT beating us. Based on the disfunction of our program. I’m more concerned with who’s wood CBS and ESPN will begin to s%$k on an weekly basis now
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 26, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Wonder if they will look back to Utah
Any chance Kyle Wittingham is a candidate?
Would be a horrible cfb coach imo
He couldn’t decide on a QB in the pros, imagine what all that swapping would do to a teenager’s mind. 1/3 of his roster would be QBs.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 26, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
I wish they would hire Gruden
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Feels like cancer, based upon the report.
I hope not, of course. I’m no big fan of Meyer, but obviously I don’t wish harm on him, and I hope whatever it is he gets past it.
Good riddance to the chinless phoney
I knew Stoops and the crew were good but not this good. The man is having a heart attack.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Hope he's OK
as I don’t want to see ANYONE leave ANY school for potentially devastating health reasons.
I wonder if Strong leaves Louisville? Gruden isn’t a college type coach – too hard, too stubborn. Certainly it’ll be a job that MANY will want.
Chop it up Seminoles!
I agree with jjodog
This only makes it worse if we lose to them next year. They are still several years ahead of us as a program and will be favored to win next year.
by EngineerNole on Dec 26, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Several years ahead?
HC – gone
DC – gone
OC (from 2008) – gone
RC – gone
JC (jesus christ) – gone
half their O/D – gone
by tricknole on Dec 26, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not several years
Next couple. I’d of rather caught up to, and passed UM. Not have any victory that is tainted by “oh, well, UM retired, so obviously FSU should win.”
by EngineerNole on Dec 26, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree it's tainted. A win is a win is a win.
It’s not like the FSU they’ve been beating up on was any good the past few years…
agreed
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule reseident broncos fan for ap lol
As my wife is a Gator... fan
I was most looking forward to both teams winning and FSU rising back up to spank ’em like we used to.
Fear the Spear!
i love beating uf
in ncaa10
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule reseident broncos fan for ap lol
yes
it does and the u also i like beating every school but fla sta and ark
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule reseident broncos fan for ap lol
Wanted to beat the so called real Gators, not rebuild
Like JJ wanted to beat the Gators next year, not the team in flux. Everyone looses position coaches but it was still UM s team we would beat. Granted beating the Gators is always a great day, but beating a supposed good team is better. State Champs .
I truly wish no bad will on UM, and wish him the best in what ever his health issue is. Must be serious to step away this fast. God Speed UM and my thoughts to you and your family on this issue.
but TY.
Florida State Class of '94
Booster since '96
only MN season ticket holder and booster
I believe we are a team ready to make the step up
Yes we lost a head coach and gained new position coaches. But we have an offense in place, a new head coach sort of. The Gator loses are now huge. Potential candidates to replace the position coaches losses are now out the window(not to mention promoted coaches), as the coach hiring them is gone. We truly only lost the defensive coaches and scheme. They are now loosing the OF and DF schemes. They will definitely be down next year, is what I had meant.
Florida State Class of '94
Booster since '96
only MN season ticket holder and booster
I think we gained a lot by not allowing BB to return.
If you ask me we didn’t lose a head coach but rather gained one.
by Legal_Seminole on Dec 27, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Wow
If he really does have a brain cyst I feel sorry for the guy but I would give two to one it is by the ear you hold a cell phone. Many more people are going to have them.. I don’t use one.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
WOW!!
Better hope Strong stays at U of L.Whatch out for Smart and Rutgers head coach.but this could be the best christmas present ever. But also hope he is ok and comes back from this.
by kiefernole on Dec 26, 2009 7:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I hope it is not Mullen
He is better than Meyers
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Spurrier comes back!
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
That would be interesting ...
Awful situation for Spurrier though (or whoever gets the job) — impossible to live up to Meyer … Meyer wouldn’t have been able to do it if he stuck around.
Would Smart be too green
for the Gates liking? Curious since their options are so limited at this point.
Go Noles coming from Atlanta!!!
Damn
Hate to see someone go out because of health reasons. Hope he gets it all sorted. Unbelievable the offseason Florida is having. Haven’t heard a lot of good news lately concerning the Gators and nothing but good news for us. By the way…welcome to the team Matt Elam.
Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."
NFL Suggestion
I recommend the Tampa Bay Bucs OC and DC drive up I-75 N and work their magic on the Gaytors.
Amen!
They should hire Raheem Morris. LOL.
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Dec 26, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO
That is the best nickname for Rah-Rah I’ve heard yet – RADIO. Although, Radio was a likeable guy – I’m SICK of Rah-Rah………horribly unready to be a HC.
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Dec 27, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
No matter how good a replacement hire
this will stil set them back.
This is great news…though I hope it isn’t as serious as the sudden nature of the departure implies.
WOW.
STILL am not holding my breath on Elam or Dunk. I wouldn’t mind if this helps with Lemay or Jernigan next year though.
Kyle Whittingham might be an option
Look what he has done at Utah in the wake of Meyer.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
He won't leave
That guy was born and raised in Utah and has spent around a decade coaching there between BYU and Utah. He loves it there.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 26, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Wasnt Spurrier leaving Duke?
If so there is a big difference between leaving Duke for UF and leaving Utah for UF. The way the MWC is going I wouldn’t be shocked if Utah made it into the NC before the lion share of the ACC and SEC.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 26, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
You got it wrong.
Okinole is saying Spurrier is a Florida guy and he left his alma mater, so that the Utah guy could do the same.
Wow...
On the other hand, I’m seriously considering putting my car title on UF -infinity.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
Recruiting dead period question
So, the UF coaches aren’t allowed to talk to any of the recruits about this situation right now?
Dont think its gonna be an issue for them to find out.
Check their email… Go to ESPN… Read a paper… Walk oudside and hear their Seminole neighbors screaming “Thank God”… Wake up tomorrow and find the sky blood red and filled with flying pigs…
I bleed Garnet and piss Gold.
They will know about it ...
The issue is that there are real questions that Florida will not be able to answer (though maybe that’s a godsend — it gives them time to come up with their talking points.
Oh wow
Great catch,
but I guess that could be negated by the fact that FSU coaches cant talk to them either.
I know I am going to burn in hell for suggesting this, but...
hopefully this isn’t some ticket sales ploy. “Come see Urban’s last game!”
I bleed Garnet and piss Gold.
From Jay Gilmore of WPTV.com on meyer resigning and Matt Elam
“I spoke to him in Palm Beach Gardens last week and he didn’t mention anything out of the ordinary. I spoke with star Gator recruit Matt Elam Saturday evening and unfortunately, I delivered the news to him. He hadn’t heard it and he’s scheduled to start school in Gainsville in January.”
Elam will stay
If he was seriously looking around at other schools … another answer. He has already tied himself to Florida and not enough time to really open it back up (I’m sure he was relieved that it was done and he was already mentally in Gainesville).
There was FSU smoke
He took an official to watch the Noles and reportedly was in touch with Jimbo. Elam was going to be a Gate b/c of UM though, since he knew him from his brother’s recruitment. I wouldn’t be surprised if Elam was in play.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 26, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Why would he stay?
His Head Coach is gone
His Defensive Coordinator is gone
HIs Recruiting Coordinator is gone
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Get ready for an avalanche of de-commits
with Strong and Gonzalez gone the Florida recruits will be deciding between FSU & Mijami…any of the gates considering NFL are now also gone.
Especially since next year may be the last before a rookie cap
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Dec 26, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
It's different for guys who aren't top-15 picks
Hudson wasn’t going to get the major bucks either way.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Dec 26, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
You know he filed it. He'd be an idiot not to.
If he gets a good report, he’d also be an idiot to stay. Imo.
Look at Geno Hays
He is 22 years old and is one if the best players on the Bucs D. He came out an year early and was 20 years old when drafted. He is on the verge of a huge contract (Probably not from TB if things continue the way they are with that org). Brandon Spikes stayed in school as a sure fire first half of the first round pick… Geno will make more than Spikes and Tebow combined. How do you turn down sure fire “real money” to play for nothing?
Depends upon what the report says
There is a big pay gap between first half of the first round and a second round pick. Our O didn’t get as much recognition as it should next year due to our youth, Ponder’s injury, and a 6-6 season. With our returning starters, Ponder’s recovery, and the changes at FSU, our O will get much more recognition.
I see your point. Why risk injury and no money vs. taking some sure money for at least 1 year. Many underclassmen could be drafted, but the question is where? Even some guys that are highly touted college players, flop in the NFL and make little money. If you have a legit shot at making it to a very high pick and can take the time to refine your game while playing against college level talent and at the same time get a degree, there are factors to balance. Trickett is one of the best line coaches at any level. Hudson is more likely to improve his game playing for Trickett than playing for a 1-15 NFL team. That said, I think Hudson will be a success in the league regardless of when he goes. I’m just pointing out that there are a number of factors to consider. We all want him to stay a nole for his final year.
I wouldnt look too deep into the "no comment"
Rodney isn’t a very talkative dude anyways.
by The K-Man on Dec 26, 2009 8:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The other aspect is
a lot of guys file for that draft advisory board for evaluation with no intention of considering the NFL — the evaluation that comes back oft includes comments about what the player needs to improve on.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Dec 26, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'd guess all stay committed (in the short term)
But say that they are interested in looking around. Long term they will probably lose some … but it will be a more drawn out separation.
Don't want to be a newbee and highjack but...
Already the UNC loss sucks.
I’m rooting for all ACC teams in the bowl games.
Already off to one loss.
Fear the Spear!
UNC
There wasn’t much hope, that int in the redzone hurt them plus the kick out of bounds before the half.
He did alright with the final few minutes/timeouts.
His QB just sucks. Getting booed at UNC basketball games when they put his face on the scoreboard. Says it all.
I thought it was unfortunate. I mean, he's like 21/22. Just a kid.
But could have have thrown a series of worse passes to end the game?
On the other hand,
Pitt is allegedly a Top 20 team, and their barely skated by against UNC.
by Drew J Jones on Dec 26, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
In my mind this is one of the best chances to test those FEI metrics.
USC SHOULD be much better you would think, but the FEI rankings say BC is a ridiculously dominanty defense. Lets see what happens
So glad we are not playing in that game
USC would crush us in that bad weather
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
SoCal vs Gainesville girls.
Yeah, not seeing the appeal for Slick Pete.
by Drew J Jones on Dec 26, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
ESPinNers just said that it wasn't due to a drastic health reason
Which is more stipulation for Meyer’s plans for a break before making a major coaching change… to the NFL. Someone’s gotta want Timmy in the Pros.
Fear the Spear!
Timmy
If the Jaguars draft Tebow in the first round, I hope they move the team to LA.
Jax has poor choice position this year.
I think if Timmy goes first or second round, the Jags will have to trade ALL of thier cards just for him. That puts Jax in a bad spot with the team potentially being traded due to poor fan base. This will be a last ditch effort for jax to have fans. Especially if they get Teabag and lose with him.
Fear the Spear!
QB is the least of JAX's problems
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Dec 26, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Jags
The Jags most recent draft picks from UF have all been horrible (Nelson, Harvey)
STILL doesn't mean they won't pick him.
Ticket sales sucked during NCAA season. Picked up after the Gators stopped playing. If UM was still a factor next season, sales would once again suck. So perhaps Timmy’s stock in Jax has dropped a bit now that the Gatas are a bit of an X factor. But if UF keeps any stock and hires well, you might see him drafted high in Jax just to spite the Gatas program and hopefully spike SOME sales.
I bleed Garnet and piss Gold.
It would be a ploy for ticket sales.
That’s it. Tebow will be around to be drafted by anyone for at least the first three rounds.
If the jags want him then they will get him.
Dan Mullin will be the new HC for the gaters.
Mark May just said UF next coach should be one of the Stoops brothers
Slobberpuss said he thinks it should be Mullen or the Utah Coach
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
I wonder how exactly will Elam be able to come to Florida State when he has already sign his papers to go to school at UF
Is there a loophole?
Theres has GOT to be a way around it
There are too many things that can happen after that time period to force them to keep along with it.
Remember Spiller
LOI was binding.
Fear the Spear!
Wasn't Spiller
that was a WR that had the Clemson/FSU controversy. In the end it didn’t matter as he didn’t qualify that year. Sorry name is escaping me at the moment.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Smith?
I know who you’re talking about. I was a kid from SC. His name was Markesh Smith or something like that. He ended up at Clemson, he had blazing speed (legit 4.3). I think he only lasted a semester though.
by army_nole26 on Dec 27, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Markish Jones
Ended up not even qualifying that year, not sure where he ended up long-term.
It pisses me off because
I just saw a Bowden family highlight on SunSports and BB and Tommy talked about the guy that Tommy took from him. Maybe I’m not going back far enough.
Nor care to much to exhaust the researching.
Fear the Spear!
I think i found the answer here..
Signing day (early February) is the day that all recruits sign, regardless of being on campus or not. A recruit has to physically be on campus and register for classes before he’s bound by his letter of intent. Now, take Matt Elam for instance. He is set to arrive on campus in January, but because of the Army All-American Bowl, he won’t be able to get on campus until after Jan. 9. Classes at UF begin on the 5th, I believe, so Elam really could play out his recruitment until after the Army game if he wanted. Once he gets on campus and registers, he’s bound to Florida and has to abide by regular transfer rules./blockquote>
by Gulfport Nole on Dec 26, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anywhere but UF
We’d love to welcome Elam to the Seminole Family. The continued turmoil and turnover at UF gives Elam and other highly-regarded recruits an excuse to gracefully come home to FSU. If we can’t have him, let him go to one of Florida’s competitors.
that's what i'm reading online
you sign your papers in the spring. Apparently only JuCo transfers have to submit an LOI if they wish to be spring qualifiers.
One thing is for sure
this puts the timetable to throw someone into the HC position as very limited. A lot of coaches have already moved. Foley definitely will hire the right guy though. He is an outstanding AD and I will celebrate the day when he leaves.
Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."
Hats Off to Urban...
As much as I hate the gators i must admit that I was a fan of Urban Meyer prior to becoming the HC at UF. Had he went to any other college I would still be a HUGE fan of him. I want the Noles to beat the Gators with Urban there but its VERY sad to see him have to go out with Heath problems. The prayers of me and my family go out to Urban & Family. Hope to get a chance to see a Jimbo-Urban matchup in the future
Huked On Foniks Wurks Fer ME!!!!
by PanamaCityBeach-NOLE on Dec 26, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions
between games
ESPN spent the whole time on the Meyer story. Names mentioned:
Dan Mullen – would follow a pattern Jerome Foley uses
Kyle Whittingham – runs same offensive system
Bob Stoops – former Florida DC
Mike Stoops
The agreement seemed to be that Foley will pursue a current head coach at the collegiate level.
If it turns out to be a Stoops, it will be interesting having Mark Stoops as our DC and one of his brothers as HC at Florida.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Dec 26, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions
Muschamp
It would be tough since he is the HCIW at Texas.
Why would it be tough
Brown just signed for another 5 years, no way Muschamp waits that long
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
bob stoops
why would he go to FU? he has a pretty good set-up at OU and probably has an easier schedule than the gators do on average.
Stoops in the past
has said that 10 years in one job is probably the max one should do. He’s just finished his 11th season at Oklahoma.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Dec 26, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I am nominating Steve Orvil Spurrier for this job right now. LOL
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
He wont return
UF Fans and Alumni say so, they said so after he was let go by the NFL. He could never achieve the level he once had at FU. The expectations would be too high and his massive ego would not allow that.
Would like to see him back as well, as he has been figured out much like our defense.
Florida State Class of '94
Booster since '96
only MN season ticket holder and booster
Wow didn't see this coming.
Although this is good news for us, I hope all turns out well for Urban and his family.
Didn't Miami win five national championships
with five different coaches? UF is one of the top 3-4 premier programs in the country right now and won’t fall far. But, the timing really hurts them close out this recruiting class. I expect a large migration of juniors as well.
Schlabach @ ESPN:
“Meyer has been to the hospital multiple times since suffering chest pains after the SEC title game, a Florida source told ESPN. He has been diagnosed with a heart valve muscle defect, the source said.
The problem is not life threatening, a Florida source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN’s Chris Mortensen. The same source said Meyer will remain in Gainesville in a non-coaching role to be defined later."
This doesn't smell right
I see one of two reasons prompting this change:
1) Wife gave him an ultimatum: It’s me and the kids or your coaching.
OR
2) He’s done something really, really dumb and is looking to cover it up…well, poorly.
It would be a HUGE ruse
if “health reasons” are cited now and redacted later. Huge loss of credability.
I bleed Garnet and piss Gold.
I don't think they'd retract
They’d stick on it, citing that as the sole reason when in actuality was just a cover.
Agree with you, ricobert1
This story stinks…
Not only for the reasons you pointed out, but his statement was very Tiger Woods like – “He has to get his priorities straight with Faith and Family.”
That sounds like regret over something that he has done, or regret that he got caught. Tiger expressed the same such regret. The fact that his health conditions are not life-threatening fuels these thoughts even further.
Truly wish him the best
HE was not a bad person much like SS.
Florida State Class of '94
Booster since '96
only MN season ticket holder and booster
UF should stay with the system and get Utah's coach.
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by DOT COM on Dec 26, 2009 8:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think it was meant to be sarcasim
I think Whittingham rode the coat tails of Meyer
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
sorry to continue this insensitive theme...
But this could be a gift that keeps on giving, right up until 4pm on National Signing Day. Don’t forget that tasty morsel of goodness.
by The K-Man on Dec 26, 2009 8:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
As much as I should feel relief...
I don’t. If this is truly for health reasons, I sincerely wish him and his family, as well the University of Florida the best. I hate it for the UF fans, and I hope that the damage is somehow mitigated in the long run. A Jimbo/Urban rivalry had incredible potential, and the fact that it will not materialize is a damn shame.
On that note, I’m very suprised that nobody has mentioned Gary Patterson’s name. I know he just signed a contract extension, but we all know how meaningless that is.
Bob Stoops, Patterson, and Loeffler are my 3 replacements
by Randall W. Spetman on Dec 26, 2009 8:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hope it's anyone but a Stoops
I think that causes some unique conflicts of interest with our program. After finally ending the stupid Bowden Bowl I’d like to avoid family members coaching against family members.
Hope UM will be alright......
My first thoughts after my concern for Urban’s health was, all the recruits we will now get……..December has been GREAT to FSU…….Happy Holidays!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO NOLES!!!!!
UM? At first glance I thought you might be concerned about the canes.
Agree about the positive thoughts on Urban’s health… not the gators, of course/
by TEMPORARY LIKE ACHILLES on Dec 26, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
It's being reported that Elam will not be an EE
I think he is a Nole. So do we get Dunkley?
Funny
Jason Lieser at the Palm Beach Post tweeting:
Dwyer LB/TE Gerald Christian, a UF commit, said he heard from Miami, FSU & Georgia within 30 min. of Urban’s resignation. UF hasn’t called.
And so it begins...
"We'll win games with talent. We'll win championships with character."
-Jimbo Fisher
by FloridaStateJay on Dec 26, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was dead period now?
No contact with players? Is it not?
Go Noles coming from Atlanta!!!
Class will lose chunks
There is no way UF can cover all their bases with their class now. They were already down their DC and Rec Coord, both of whom were a big part of why some kids came to town. But now losing the HC as well is a major blow. And without a full staff there is just no way they keep everyone in the fold and still go out and close on other targets.
JB
I heard Jeff Bowden is available.. Got to be a step up from wide receiver coach at North Alabama.. Sorry, just couldn’t help myself…
I second that. JB perfect fit for this job.
I probably don't know Judo, but I have a black belt in crazy.
That's why Bobby would go to UF games...
…As a “nuetral fan”.
Fear the Spear!
Beating JB on over and over again would do so much healing for the fanbase...
"I am the way, the truth, and the life...no one gets to the Father but through Me"
Bring Back Coach Dickey
Let’s stir up the Ghosts of UF past glory years. The loooong history of great SEC and National Championships of the past under Coach Dickey, Coach Hall and Coach Charlie Pell.
Oh—-wait a minute…Whoops, NOT ONE Conference Championship or title of any kind for 80 years. Some TRADITION!
heres to them finding another Charlie Pell.
The man left not 1 but 2 programs with troubles.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
just look on the TN main page
his twitter account is on the left pane at the bottom
"We'll win games with talent, but we'll win championships with character and intelligence."
by SteadfastNole on Dec 26, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing Yet
Coley is in Gator Bowl mode, as he should be right now(based on my take on the rules). But he is going to be like a caged beast after the game, awaiting till his is allowed to hit the road again. I worry about the airlines, fear the spear airlines, here comes coley and the cuban coffee express.
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Booster since '96
only MN season ticket holder and booster
My best guess (and it's welllll educated.....)
is that Dan McCarney will get a promotion to Head Coach. Again, just speculation, but speculation from a reliable source.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
That sounds misleading. A source who has sources
is talking like it will happen. It’s not actually from inside the program, but it’s a move that would make some sense. McCarney has HC experience, is a very good position coach and is the Assistant Head Coach at UF right now. It also may help keep some recruits in place, mainly William Campbell.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I could see them do this
to give UM time to figure out his health. They did say he would stay on in some capacity and he’s only 45. They give him whatever medicine is prescribed for his diagnosis w/ a few yrs to refresh and then he comes back more “laid-back”. Not saying it is the smart thing to do but coaching is all he’s ever done and is his identity (sound familiar?). He’ll think he can be superman and he’s the best coach they’ve ever had and one of the 2 best in CFB so the admin will let him do it. McCarney is literally the caretaker w/ full knowledge of the plan. At worst he gets HC experience; at best UM decides against returning and he get to keep the job for awhile if he’s successful.
They have to hire Mullen or from within...
if urby stays in town. Coaching under his chinless shadow would not be a good thing for an established HC. They new guy would be a caretaker, sort of, until meyer leaves for Jax in the NFL. Once the caretaker under achieves, then they can grab a real HC, unless they hire Mullen now. That would be the only long term move.
It’s Machiavellian… but it might play out that way.
I think it's a pretty serious health issue. Don't think he will be coaching anytime soon.
It’s being reported that Meyer had a heart-attack during the season. Unless he wants to die, I think he will stay out of coaching.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
thanks for the TMZ style update
you should leave the sexy dreamed-up CFB machiavellian political drama to your grocery store novels.
hes a real guy with a real family and a high profile, high-stress job that sent him to the hospital a few times. Hes leaving a job because his family is concerned for him. They have plenty of money and he doesn’t need to push himself to the brink anymore. How many CEOs have left big companies because of stress-related health issues?
by NorthernHaze on Dec 27, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
with the lieing and vague comments coming out of coaches mouths these days
how can you blame anyone for being skeptical. How many times has a coach said they’ve not been offered a job or have no plans to leave their current job only to bolt the next day? How many coaches and athletes have boldly denied being part of a scandal only for them to be outed later on.
The steroid era in baseball and guys like petrino or donovan make us never take statements at face value anymore.
Exactly
The next round of…“my wife and I love it here and plan on winning a championship” will roll off the tongue of Dan Mullen. He’d be crazy not to take it. The gaters would be smart to lock him up. Consistency in the wake of what appears to be devastatingly bad news for the gaters. It makes too much sense.
Hope it's not Mullen,
my daughter is a student at MSU and I have kind of adopted the Bulldogs in the SEC. I’ve been telling her to not despair about their team because Mullen is a good young coach who will turn their program around.
Some coaching possibilities.
Stoops will get a call from Foley but will remain in Norman.
Tuberville needs a job and has done well in the SEC.
Foley and Spurrier do not like one another so he stays at USCeast.
Strong and Mullen’s agents will be busy over the next week. UF easily has the funds to buy out either one.
Wildcard: Butch Davis…………..
I forgot KW at Utah as well.
Machen is from Utah and of course Urban was KW’s mentor.
Best wishes to Urban and Family
Not that this means much coming from me, but thanks to all the nole fans who are showing class to meyer and his situation!!! Great to see seminole nation show some dignity!!!
Health problems should never be taken lightly. Anyone who openly rejoices because of what UM may be going through should be ashamed of themselves. That said, if it turns out that it was nothing serious, there will be a lot of more or less justified jeering :)
by EngineerNole on Dec 26, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
The word ‘actually’ should probably have been inserted between ‘was’ and ‘nothing’.
by EngineerNole on Dec 26, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
i can agree to that
but until then, i’ll take the story at face value until proven other wise.
Can you take anything at face value in today's world?
Seeing everything we have over the last several years with coaches, players, and anyone else involved in the sports world lying straight to our faces with attorney-speak statements tells me that as mudra and ricobert1 point out, there is MUCH more to this than what is being released at this point. I will be highly shocked to find out that this is what they are reporting it is. I will be as equally not shocked if there is something like another coaching job, or some Tiger Woods type unfaithfulness, or something totally different that none of us are thinking of right now. Call me a cynic, say that I should have more compassion for his health, but I just do not buy this for a minute.
Bobby Petrino
will likely be a candidate.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Dec 26, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions
Petrino is loyal.
He would never leave a place where he has recruited young players. His sense of commitment…..
well…ok…he would be a good gater.
But he ain’t comin’
Seriously?
He left Louisville less than 6 months after signing a 10-year contract extension. He had young players there that he left for the NFL an then he left 13 games into his only NFL season.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Dec 26, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well that is a fail on my part
I hate to have a sarcasm recognition fail
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."
by geoffissiffoeg on Dec 27, 2009 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
UF won't touch Petrino.
Is there anyone that would believe a word that comes out of his mouth at his presser about how the UF job is his dream job? Nah. I think Fisher and Coley would crush Petrino in recruiting and Foley knows it.
Names being mentioned
Names in the article (link here):
Bob Stoops – Foley’s top target in 2001, but turned it down
Bobby Petrino – on Foley’s list in 2004
Dan Mullen – familiar with Meyer’s system, continuity angle
Chris Peterson (Boise State) – someone will eventually pry him away, maybe it is now
Mike Shanahan – candidate in 2001. Former Gators OC
by Wild@Heart Nole on Dec 26, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions
Two names that are missing but should be on
Will Muschamp – Organization, Good background, Great Defensive Coach and comes from a talented coaching tree.
Kyle Wittingham – He allows UF a seamless change because he comes from Urban’s tree and would keep everything offensively largely intact.
by Legal_Seminole on Dec 26, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Muschamp is the HCIW at Texas
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 26, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Mack Brown doesn't look ready to step down
While Texas is a top5 school Florida is pretty damn close. I think if Florida wanted him they I bet they have the funds to pay his buyout.
by Legal_Seminole on Dec 26, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I believe the terms of his buyout were similar to what we had Fisher under, if not higher.
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 26, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
14-13 USC vs BC
Anybody think we would take Brice Butler as a walk on?
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Who's Brice Butler?
Good game so far. Really hope BC pulls it off.
by Drew J Jones on Dec 26, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Bobby Bulter's son... WR from Buford, GA
Not at all leaving USC…. not sure what Doc is smoking tonight
Thank you Noles fans
for being classy about this situation. While this obviously benefits FSU, I haven’t seen any excessive gloating here.
You guys are a good group.
While I am glad he is gone....
I honestly hope he is OK. I wish nobody a terminal illness or something serious.
It's just football.
Anyone who wishes actual harm on someone over a football rivalry is an idiot.
Hopefully Meyer’s not facing anything too serious.
by Drew J Jones on Dec 26, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm glad he's gone too but he seems like a reasonable man
and I don’t want him to be at serious risk for anything regarding his health. I’m not surprised that there is really isn’t any gloating over here. FSU fans are mostly very classy and realistic.
We have no reason to gloat
We have too much pertinent business to handle ourselves. We have to focus on getting our house in order first. The business being conducted by our adversaries should be of only minimal concern, as we have a long road ahead regardless
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 26, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
headed for nfl
Rumor I hear is redskins….I know it sounds like a joke but its not…lots of money..
by noles305 on Dec 26, 2009 9:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Best bet for if is to promote in house. Best wishes to meyer!! One of the best coaches in the last decade (probably the best)
by DesiNole on Dec 26, 2009 9:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Personally, I don't see any of UF's remaining assistants as HC material
Steve Addazio just screams the Next Ron Zook.
Which assistants do you have in mind?
Health Issues
seem to have been initially played up. Watching what herbstreit and dr. lou said, doesn’t sound like he’s gona croak any time soon. Sounds like he was just stressed and has a heart condition
They should hire Mick Hubert
Then we would never have to hear “oh my” on the radio again.
After the players heard it enough in practice they would bludgeon him do death on the side lines.
Sort of a two birds one stone approach.
alot of twitters are sayin elam is pissed off. the other guys sayin this have givin them something to think about.
Problem is
Problem is how many of these guys have given FSU a good look? And how do we handle the guys we have committed to us right now and guys we look good for vs guys we want to peel from the Gates? I know Elam was taking a bit of a look at us, and if we pulled anyone I would expect it to be him but other than him who has a OV left to take or took one to FSU? Not a lot of time left to come out of nowhere and get a kid. But Jimbo did pull it off with Reid last year so I wouldn’t put a surprise or two past him.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 26, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Dunkley would have been nice
Sounds like we some how screwed the pooch on Dunkley though. I thought I read there was a lineman or 2 that considered FSU earlier as well.
Go Noles coming from Atlanta!!!
Yeah I saw that.
SWFL was the guy saying Dunk looking to BAMA. My question/concern lies with the comments Genron had made a few days ago that we turned Dunkley away. He is someone we should have taken and made room for.
Go Noles coming from Atlanta!!!
Genron has been pretty reliable with his “tips”
by DesiNole on Dec 26, 2009 10:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He was dead on
with the DC hire though. Said it wasn’t going to be someone off Bama’s staff, had coached in the state of fla before, and coached some 1st round picks as well. Bam! Now we have Stoops
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 26, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
This might work out fine for Meyer,
He can take a few years off, maybe guest commentator now and then, and then come back and take over at Notre Dame when Kelly tanks.
question?
Does he still “step down” if they beat alabama? Doubt it…
by noles305 on Dec 26, 2009 10:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Health is above everything. He is on top of the world and for him to give it up, he defly has to have some serious condition.
by DesiNole on Dec 26, 2009 10:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Leon Orr?
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Could be
Could also be Herban sees what is coming next year and wants to keep his marketability intact
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Let’s be classy and not ridicule someones health condition!
by DesiNole on Dec 26, 2009 10:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wait, I thought Tim Tebow had the power to heal the sick?
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 26, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions
On a serious note, I wish Coach Meyer all the best with whatever it is that caused him to step down.
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 26, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Drat. You beat me to it.
Curious as to if FU can get Strong to come back or if it’s too late.
Don’t see (Bob) Stoops’ ego allowing him to go there w/ “Irvin” lurking in the background.
Stay classy, Tallahassee!
Nope
Just the power to snip the tip.
LOL
Fear the Spear!
by SublimiNole on Dec 27, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no big name coaches
are coming to hogtown with meyer still around casting a shadow. it ain’t happening.
How funny would it be if Phil Fullmer started waving his hand saying"hire me".
Emergency Broadcast
This is a medical emergency, all holiday leave has been cancelled for Shands Hospital workers. Please report to duty immediately as medical lines are expanding.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
yeah, im not impressed with shands
drove 2 hours to go there for a medical issue. was seen for literally less than a minute and sent on my way.
As remarkable of place it is,
It does lack a “human touch”. Too many mechanics, not enough nurses…(although UF mandates that nursing students be visible by wearing white scrubs…it’s a GREAT rule)
by Randall W. Spetman on Dec 27, 2009 8:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Over Under...
What’s the Over Under on this being the longest thread in TN history? Anyone, anyone, Bueller? Anyone?
Wow
I cant believe it. That guy is such a smart football coach, its really bad for college football.
LOL, Jax news station is having a special. Some redneck just called in begging for Spurrier to come back
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 26, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions
Love to see Coley's and Jimbo's texting to certain
high school football player, just now.
Chief Osceola
Hope not...
They had better not be “texting” anyone
Don’t need any violations or bad press!
by DesiNole on Dec 26, 2009 10:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
When you really think about it...
UM has never stayed in one place very long. He did take over some great players and recruited even greater ones at FU. But now that class is leaving as have a number of coaches. He was about to face an entire rebuilding process. If his health is truly a concern, then this is the perfect time to take a breather. Timmy is gone and FSU is moving up quickly. In short, an all consuming job just got a lot more difficult. Also. it works with his normal time line. Stepping down now, while adding in the health issues, makes sense.
Few men are such great coaches to maintain excellence years on end.
If you know what I mean…..
Recruiting update from a sportswriter friend
“Urban Meyer/Florida news: Been a busy night for a Sportswriter but wanted to send a quick note out to all the Gator fans (Jill, saw your post about Robbie having to deal with this for the Gville Sun — uggh). Holy geez you never know when something like this is going to happen. Spurrier did this after New Years 2002 too.
For the Gator fans out there: Talked to two Gator 2010 recruits tonight (QB Trey Burton and DB Gideon Ajagbe, kids I really enjoy talking to) and the mom of the No. 1 Gator recruit, Matt Elam out of Palm Beach.
Trey told me he’s talked to 8 Gator recruits already and they are all still on board — that includes Cody Riggs, Mack Brown and Ian Silberman. Matt’s mom said Matt’s in “a daze”. Wasn’t sure how to take that exactly. Gideon said he wouldn’t leave no matter what. Loves the school as much as he loves Meyer, but did say he talked to Urban JUST last week and Urban was talking about Gideon coming up to campus and making sure he was still committed. Sounds like Urban found out some serious health stuff in the past week. I guess ESPN is reporting a mild heart attack after the SEC game? wow"
by Sabon on Dec 26, 2009 10:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Most of them probably ARE "Still on board"
However, those kids can tell Burton anything they want, that doesn’t mean they aren’t still looking around. But also, even if UFAG’s class does fall apart, that doesn’t mean they’ll end up with us. If UF was on them, obviously they would have other top tier programs across the country vying for their services if they chose to re-open their recruiting. They don’t have a lot of time figure this out. We realistically, can only hope to land de-commits who had already considered FSU, anything else is just gravy. That being said, as long as they ain’t playin for UFAG, I’m cool!
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 26, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Negative recruiting will get them
The kids don’t really know what to think or ask right now. But other coaches will bring up system changes and not knowing who your position coach will be. Will ask them how can you trust what the UF coach is telling you when you don’t even know if he will be there next year etc.
Some Gators I talked to want Mullen or Strong. I just don’t know if either of them leaves their new jobs that quick. I think the G’ville Sun was reporting that a new coach will be named in a week. That screams a hire from within to me. ESPN reported that Strong hasn’t signed a contract yet with L’ville but backing out of the agreement to take over at UF is a career killer if he gets canned from G’ville. Will be interesting to see what happens next.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 26, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed on the comments about Strong
If he does take the UF job and leaves Louisville in a lurch(When they are the ones who gave him his long awaited opportunity), that would scream of a lack of integrity on his part. He and Mullen need to stay put. Especially if they value their coaching careers long term. They both get to cut their coaching chops in less pressurized environments, which IMO is key to a coaches growth. I doubt Foley would go that route regardless
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 26, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
No way.
This is a 100% completely understandable situation. It was obviously unforseeable, and if UF has the money, the only people on earth who would blame Strong would be Louisville fans, and they’ll get over it.
But if he bombs he's done!
First job in a high pressure environment, with a UFO sized microscope on you, at a top program? Strong went through too much to get that Louisville job. And if he turns his back on it, he’d better be sure, because people will be watching. If you don’t get it done at a BCS school, he may only have MAC and MWC jobs to look forward to in the future. Zook only received another opportunity because his recruiting acumen was so well known nationally. And even he, took a big step down. As much as that hurts me to say. Mullen can go 8-4 next year and possibly land the UGA gig next year if those wahoos give MR the boot. I think it’s a moot point though, because ultimately, Foley probably has more experienced coaches on his wish list.
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 27, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
lot easier to bomb in Louisville
I could coach UF next yr and win the SEC east. he’d be a fool not to take if they offered. Loyalty simply has no value these days….on either side.
Umm ESPN...
ESPN’s list of current top UF commits has Elam as a RB/LB. Has Elam ever been considered for RB?
He ran for almost 200 yds in the championship game
Don’t remember exactly but he had maybe a dozen carries.
We'll have to agree to disagree
He can build a program under less scrutiny in Louisville,plus not have everyone question his integrity for ditching the program that gave him a chance. I know that loyalty is almost non-existent in college sports. But things have not evolved to the point where a black coach (Who had trouble landing a job as it is ) can compromise his allegiances,and piss on programs, Petrino style. Better to man up and make the best out of your current gig. Career longevity is the aim. Damn winning the SEC East next year if it shortens your coaching options long term. Which it will if Foley fires him
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 27, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
took a stroll over to a gator message board
and they had the list of top “targets”:
Shanahan, Cowher, Gruden, Stoops, Carroll. Could they be more delusional? They also mention they should get Muschamp for DC. Haha.
While other coaches are sleeping Coach Coley is stalking HS football players on their FB and twitter accounts and reading their old book reports.
What controlled substance did they import?
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 26, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
crystal
meth probably pretty easy to come by in hog-town
They will have to go after either Saban or Fisher
The process is unstoppable!
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Let's pay Bowden $1 in mid-January so that we can say he outlasted Meyer.
There is no way to peace; peace is the way.
This is just the beginning
The same shit that happened to Tiger is about to happen to ole Urbie
Hes been sleeping around with female Jorts
"Its called the Veer"
I have to think that he makes the most sense...
Also, you gotta wonder who the next DC is…..
He would be the most viable
The players who are left there fit his offense. As a matter of fact he well may have been the brains behind Meyer’s success.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Is this true
Has he been double dating with Tiger?
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Bring Back Coach Doug Dickey to UF
Let’s stir up the Ghosts of UF past glory years. The loooong history of great SEC and National Championships of the past under Coach Dickey, Coach Hall and Coach Charlie Pell.
Oh—-wait a minute…Whoops, NOT ONE Conference Championship or title of any kind for 80 years. Some TRADITION!
Well, they did get a couple SEC Championships (and a national title if you talk to some real deluded Gators) under Pell. They just paid for them.
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
Big Cat Country Radio, Every Wednesday Night at 10 PM EST
by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 27, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
Gator Conference Championships Revoked
They went on probation and had the Conference Championship revoked. The Gators have a very long history of dismal and unremarkable football results until fairly recently. They must have been green with envy to watch BOTH UM and FSU clearly garner the nation’s attention with records, Conference and National Championships before the “Johnny-come-lately” Gators finally joined the club.
Teabag has commented on UM's resignation
"The past four years he has been my dad away from home. We will always have a father-son relationship for the rest of our lives. Coach loves the university, his players and the fans. I believe he has made the right decision for him and his family."
I always assumed it was more of a priest-altar boy relationship.
(that being said, I hope he’s ok)
by ArsonistSavior on Dec 27, 2009 12:20 AM EST reply actions
I don't believe this is a real quote.
Its lacking the “God bless you” or whatever he says.
>>---,,->
Scalp 'em Seminoles!
Meyer's daughter tells the opposite story
that she hasn’t had a father in the last few years, New York Times
Chief Osceola
Timmy Tearbow and Urbie Crier both gone?
Who’s going to supply the river of tears over there in Gainesville?
by seminoleballer on Dec 27, 2009 12:46 AM EST reply actions
the fans?
There is no way to peace; peace is the way.
by GoNolzOhio on Dec 27, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There's an old Gator Joke I've heard.
Why does the St. Johns river flow North?
Because Georgia sucks!
Now we also know where the water comes from and why it’s so brown.
Fear the Spear!
by SublimiNole on Dec 27, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Very Odd
It just seems odd how all of this happened. First the loss in the SECCG with Tebow crying on the sideline, then Meyer checking in Shands after arriving back on campus. Something is very strange here, but I do wish him well and god speed on his journey back to healthy.
+1
I wuoldn’t be suprised if there is a bit more to this story that comes out in the coming days and weeks. With that said, I won’t speculate. I wish Meyer and his family nothing but the best. I hate FU, I don’t hate him.
"We'll win games with talent. We'll win championships with character."
-Jimbo Fisher
by FloridaStateJay on Dec 27, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
wouldn't
"We'll win games with talent. We'll win championships with character."
-Jimbo Fisher
by FloridaStateJay on Dec 27, 2009 1:42 AM EST reply actions
This is the price of sucess!
First my thoughts and prayers are with Urban and his family. Though he is a gator and I’m a gator hater through and through but there is a time and place for everything.
I think what has happened is exactly what drove Spurrier away from FU and that is the constant pressure put on the coaches, players etc…… in their football program.
Remember last year when they lost to Ole Miss? Talk to any hardcore gator fans after that loss? I did and all I heard was “stupid Urban. I wish they would fire his ass”
Now add the stress to the goals of the Gator football season this year. Finish wire to wire #1 in the country and then blow it in the game that puts you where you want to be. Not only blow it but simply get killed.
This is the very reason I’ve never liked FU or many of their hardcore fans I’ve encountered over the years. It’s a money elitist machine in Gainsville. It is almost a “cult” like atmosphere. I’ve known gator fans from back in the 90’s who were practically homicidal maniacs after losing a game.
Folks you have to question a program that can sellout a 90,000 seat stadium to play a Div II school. It’s pure obsession. Ever been to a sportsbar and saw gator fans who didn’t have tickets to the game and would yell at the top of their lungs if UF made a first down against a Div II school? I have.
Now add all that following up and all the money that rolls into that program and you are the head coach of that beast and you can see why Urban is having health issues now and probably since he took the job. There is no loyalty in Gainsville. They are only looking for wins. Sure it appears Urban had some medical issues prior to this but in a high stressful job like that and to just say enough is enough is very scary and bold.
Frankly I really don’t know who the hell would want that job. I really think the only person with thick enough skin for the job would be an NFL coach who has to deal with NFL owners etc…
I mean it goes beyond a game at this point. This is what scares me a bit about having our new coaching staff being put into place at FSU. I hope and pray we never end up like UF in the ugly issues I’ve seen for many years.
Heck I work with a guy who went to UF, played basketball at UF, his parents were profesors at UF and have been gator fans forever. They knew a person just like them who had been a season ticket holder for over 50 years. This guy died and of course his tickets went to his son. What did UF do? They sold this guys season tickets to someone on the waiting list. Not his son, but someone will to pay the money for them. It is a money making machine there. They don’t care. Foley will not even expand the stadium because they consider everything surrounding the stadium right now sacred and will not tear anything else down. Fans have been dying for an expansion and they will not do it because they know they can raise the prices so high for season tickets each year and people will pay. If you look at it the Swamp is behind many of the SEC stadiums and its not that they don’t have the money either. They have more money than they know what to do with.
This is the price of sucess?
UF fans
I work at Publix and a woman came in wearing gator stuff. She started talking about football and when I said something about the Gators (strength of schedule this season) she flipped out and said I was suppose to scan groceries and complained to the manager. Some fans are so ignorant if you say something other than how great the gators are they react like your praising the devil.
FSU will be ddoing a lot of that stuff and soon.
If we are to be great again, that is.
Money wins college football games.
My guesses are that
this could be applied to pretty much any other powerhouse football school (UF, Bama, Texas, OU, USC)…
The pressure of winning (like someone said earlier, winning makes $) IS immense, but so are the paychecks. IMO it’s a fair trade-off. I sincerely hate that UM had to resign over it, but these guys understand the mental/physical toll coaching an elite program takes on them.
by Randall W. Spetman on Dec 27, 2009 6:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
HOW MANY COMMENTS?/ AND
Nobody has thought to mention that Bobby at least has the grace to wish Jimbo and crew well, but he would go live at his Ft walton condo so he wasnt seen to be “looking over Jimbo’s shoulder”. Just one more example of his decency.I feel for oiban and hope he regains his health(and sanity), but anyone who read the 7-8 page story on him awhile back in sports illustrated or watched him could tell he was ready to implode for years
p.s. google image that “cyst” and you may well be shocked. it’s serious stuff.
Bobby in Tally wouldn't work
I will be interested to see if Urban will. He is much more connected than Bobby within the coaching ranks at this point.
Coaching is much harder now thn it was in previous decades.
How long...
…is ESPN going to treat Meyer’s resignation like the death of a legend? I know they’re SECSPN these days but this is ridiculous.
"We'll win games with talent. We'll win championships with character."
-Jimbo Fisher
by FloridaStateJay on Dec 27, 2009 2:35 AM EST reply actions
It's a really big deal
He’s probably the best coach in football and he just abruptly resigned. It’s a huge story and ESPN should cover it as such.
A segment of Sportscenter, yes
But to return to Meyer as often as they have is a bit much, IMO.
"We'll win games with talent. We'll win championships with character."
-Jimbo Fisher
by FloridaStateJay on Dec 27, 2009 2:44 AM EST reply actions
Let me just say this..
… as much as a pain in the ass Meyer has been for FSU (and other schools) to beat, I honestly hope he is ok. A persons health is the most valuable thing we as individuals can cherish.
Now with that said… F U UF. Eat it and like it.
According to the paper
He has an arachnid cyst. This is a junction where a vessel enlarges and has a thin wall. Yeah they can pop and it is lights out but I have one myself according to an MRI. You may never have a problem in the future or you could unexpectedly cash in your chips. You would never know it is there unless they told you.
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
If Meyer is staying at UF as it is being reported on ESPN in a non-coaching role
I would expect someone like Dan Mullen to take over as coach. Meyer will assist with the hiring and even though he will have a non-coaching role, I would expect some oversight. I can’t see an established HC come to work under Meyer.
And if that is the case, I don’t see many recruits changing in the end. Not Elam, not Christian.
Depends.
Meyer may well be saying that simply to assure recruits, but the reports I’ve seen indicate that Elam and Christian are pretty pissed off by this. Might be the case that they simply don’t trust Meyer anymore.
by Drew J Jones on Dec 27, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
The timing of this is interesting.
There is more than enough medical evidence to support this decision he has made. What this shouldn’t be is something new. With the money big time programs are pumping to these high profile coaches I gotta believe regular physical examinations would be a moral imperative (I wonder if Jimbo gets his examinations). I know for a fact Bob Stoops get his. That being said a faulty heart valve can easily be overlooked.
I think what makes people skeptical, including me initially, is the timing of other things. His DC leaves, his QB coach leaves for LSU, and although well stocked with talent it’s going to be a rebuilding job next year. No Tebow and nothing else to prove there.
In his defense though if he really wanted to just leave he wouldn’t need an excuse for his health. My goodness just over a week ago he could have named his price for Notre Dame.
In any case the PR at Gainesville is working overtime to spin things with recruits and the media.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Another name to throw into the hopper
I know that he just signed a new deal … but has anyone heard the name Jim Harbaugh at Stanford as a possible replacement for Meyer?
He'd fit in perfectly with his attitude.
by Legal_Seminole on Dec 27, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just saying...
Winner, excellent recruiter, coaching pedigree, offensive background and an aggressive personality .. Sounds like the gut who just left
No FL ties
at all for Harbaugh. I’m listing:
Mullen
Stoops
Strong
as my top 3.
Chop it up Seminoles!
by horsepowernole on Dec 27, 2009 11:53 AM EST reply actions
Yeah but..
Meyer didn’t have UF or SEC ties either .. I think Foley goes for people who can win a championship and not “keep it in the family” thing as his priority. If they happen to be Meyer"ites" so be it.
Foley is probably the second best AD in the country.
this is all about making money in the future
the gig at uf is up, tebow gone, and most of the important coaches
meyer is left with little to build on
he would definitely suffer some questions on his coaching ability in that situation
he can handle the heat, he will demand more salary by not staying there
I GOT IT!
Meyer resigned because he knows Teblow won’t make it in the NFL, so he plans to have Teblow com back to UF after bombing in the draft and coach UF with Meyer being his mentor.
After all they do love each other immensely…..
SARCASM OFF.
His change of heart was nothing more to SAVE this class. He will split as soon as these kids are committed and a new HC is placed by Foley.
No other explanation, and it proves he DOES NOT care about the kids 100%.
Go Noles coming from Atlanta!!!
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