2011 Port St. Lucie DB's Lamarcus Brutus and Keelin Smith (Treasure Coast H.S.) commit to FSU!
by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 10:03 AM EST
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PrintFollowing the announcement of Bobby Bowden's departure, recruiting has picked up in a big way for FSU... in the 2011 class. On the heels of the commitment by OL Trey Pettis, James Coley has struck gold in Treasure Coast H.S. with the commitments of two highly-regarded defensive backs, Lamarcus Brutus and Keelin Smith. Both are also teammates of 2010 standout LB Jeff Luc.
Lamarcus Brutus is listed by Rivals.com as 6'1", 185 lbs with a posted 4.6 40 yard dash as sophomore but is still growing into his body and developing his running skill. He is listed as a safety prospect and holds offers from the likes of Ohio State, LSU, Mississippi, UCLA, and North Carolina. Keelin Smith is listed by Rivals.com as 6'3", 185 lbs, and as a corner prospect. He holds offers from the same schools as Brutus. For those of you keeping score at home, that is an impressive offer list at this stage for two junior prospects!
Both players are highly-regarded, also fielding interest from Nick Saban, Pete Carroll, and Urban Meyer. Brutus will likely be a 4 star prospect while Smith should be as well, but has a very high ceiling with his potential, frame, and skill set. Both look to be standout players. Keep in mind that there is over a year left for evaluations of these two prospects, so any early predictions (including my own) should be taken with a grain of salt in fairness to these kids.
These two commitments are a testament to the work ethic of James Coley. With the uncertainty and rumors about Bowden behind FSU, the staff can continue to pound pavement with a vengeance. It certainly looks as though Fisher and Co. have the attention of many prospects and things are really starting to heat up with the 2011 class.
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Great stuff
can’t wait for the 2010 kids to start rolling in too. I’ve even read that Noel might come back. Crazy.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
WOW!!
Coach Coley is a recruiting machine.
What will it be like when the whole staff is pulling in the same direction recruiting -wise and on game day?!?!!
Let's make some assumptions...
At least one of these kids can play corner here…. Tyler Hunter’s back is healthy… Karlos Williams plays safety instead of wide receiver….
We would have signed an entire secondary over 6’0’’ tall comprised of high 4 to low 5 star recruits.
Looks like Hunter has a pretty decent shot at playing again in the future
by basbalstr101 on Dec 3, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
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The first mention on TN was of spinal stenosis
Spinal stenosis is just the narrowing of the spinal canal (closing up around spinal cord) that causes discomfort and numbing sensations. I have no knowledge of his situation, but at his age it’s likely caused by some form of bulging disk.
Check out TC’s article about Vince Williams’ injury. I’m guessing Vince’s was far more serious from all the mentions that Tyler Hunter will be fine to play.
Hunter's health
Doctors say he should be fine if he doesn’t have contact for 3-6 months. Great news for the kid.
The next Eric Berry, c’mon down to Tallahassee……
Great news!!
This is encouraging, especially after losing Wille Downs. Man I’m going to be sad for a long time that he didn’t become Nole…
Willie Downs is not done....
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
I heard he dropped out of JUCO...
Is this not the case?
I've heard different reports
Nothing seems too credible. I’ve decided to just put him in the back of mind as a best case scenario kind of situation.
by tdchrisdavis on Dec 3, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Reports are that he will enroll locally into a JuCo...
We’ll all know soon enough…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Tallahassee Community College
Word is he was bored out in MS and didn’t get along with the coach. The coach said Willie needs to get his head on straight and do what’s best for Willie, not others.
I don’t see how coming back to Tally, the city where all his crap started, is going to solve anything. I’m not expecting him at FSU, ever.
take it easy
Do you know him personally?
He hasn’t been arrested has he? For all we know he has a terrible family situation and a poor support system around him. At least he’s still going to CC and hasn’t given up.
He has had it rough.
But he does have a reputation in town. I have heard stories straight from people who know.
365 days, until I change my ways.
I'm hoping he can be our Reggie Nelson
Only with a cooler nickname that doesn’t have to do with pencils.
I'm partial to "Willie F#ckin Downs" myself
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
We don't know if he's still going to a CC
That’s what he was supposedly going to go. He dropped out in the middle of the semester so I’m not sure he could even take partial semester classes at TCC. We shall see if he is even enrolled in spring classes in about a month.
And if you have a poor support group in Tallahassee, why come back to Tally? Why not stay out in MS where there are others seeking the same guidance you need, and people willing to offer it to you?
Yeah, FSU is still very much in this
The longer he waits, the better shot FSU has. I’m getting a little more confident on Luc every day actually, but UF (with Charlie Strong- without him, they’re done) and Tennessee are still big players.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Change of heart? What does that mean?
Luc is visiting FSU soon, and he’s likely still an EE. Most EE’s don’t visit a school in December unless they have a good chance of ending up there.
4.6 40 ???
i`ve played against Defensive Ends that run a 4.6 40…. not the speed that we need to have a stellar pass defense…
But we had the fastest team we ever had under MA this year...
We ought to know by now that a well disciplined 4.7 is better than an out of position 4.4.
Who, Jevon Kearse?
Seriously, so many people say, “I ran a 4.6 in high school” or “I played against a DL that ran a 4.6 in high school” and it’s all BULLSHEET. A 4.6 is HELLA fast. It is certainly not elite speed, but it is not as common as anecdotal evidence would suggest.
And it’s a corner. Corners need HIPS more than straight line speed. What’s the kid’s shuttle? They also need recovery speed (ie, a quick first couple steps). The 40 is a joke metric. It rarely is needed in any football game.
40 times get exaggerated like wildfire
The 40 is more of a baseline. You have to have a certain amount of straight line speed to compete, but the small differences dont show on the field that much. Guys also play different than they run in track shoes.
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Easy Example.....
Look at the UF game. Patrick Robinson is easily faster then Joe Haden, but who would you rather have on your staff? Joe Haden always makes the solid tackle and recorded a few pass break ups with a pick. Patrick got beat deep by a white kid, and numerous times got beat by Aaron Hernadez on in’s and outs. I will say however that PRob did get to flash his speed when he ran down Demps from the OTHER SIDE of the field lol.
"Reporter: What will you tell the team at halftime Bobby?
Bobby: I'll tell 'em what I always tell 'em when were winning. Boys if they don't score we'll win this game"
P Rob did look much faster than Demps there. And I never consider it “getting beat” when you are all over the receiver but the ball is put in the perfect spot. Getting beat is J Rob and Mangum on 98% of plays.
I do agree that P Rob missed way too many open field tackles, though.
But, I have no idea what this has to do with my comment saying the 40 is overrated and that I’m tired of hearing some 40 year old guy say he (or someone he knew) in high school could run a 4.5, so that a recruit running a 4.6 is SLOW.
My 13 yr old nephew is 5'10" & runs a 4.8 40
I would expect him to get faster just like I’d expect these HS jr.’s to get faster. From having been on my HS track team, I can tell you guys get faster between the time they are 15 and 19. These guys are still at least 2 yrs away from suiting up for an FSU game. It may well be more than 2 years before they see playing time at FSU. They will add muscle and get faster.
He's a Junior in high school.
These kids get much faster naturally as they grow. Add in a college training regimen and nutrition, that time can see drastic reduction. Deion came to FSU running a 4.4. He left running a 4.2.
Yea
As a college baseball players(60 yards is the baseball version of football’s forty time)…I was running a 6.8 in HS…after getting to college and hitting the weights/plyometric program…I got that time down to a 6.5 seconds in right at two years…
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And the Coley legend continues...
now, if we can just fend off the hoards
right, and any recruit we lost from losing him would not be much of a loss.
I want recruits who want to win. A recruit who is no longer interested in FSU because of Bowden’s departure is clearly focused on other things.
by tdchrisdavis on Dec 3, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t think we would, but there are some people (on WC) who really thought players still came to FSU for Bobby.
Don't go to the Warchant freeboards for information man
A lot of recruits have said they came to play for Jimbo. Hell, Tavaris Barnes even said he thought Bowden should retire and that Jimbo needs to be in charge.
This is a positive.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Recruits liked Bobby
to say that they once played for the guy. That is something cool they could tell stories about in their old age. None of them really cared about being “coached” by him, though.
Exactly
But now kids don’t even care about that. Bowden’s reputation took a big hit the last few years.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
way to start it off guys
I am just waiting for the day for the dominoes to start falling
C. Jones —> J. Luc -—> L. Joyner -→ C. Green -→ Hubbard -→ Dorsey
It would be such a statement to rest of country for us to close like this with so many people down on us.
I hope FSU can land Hubbard, but it will only happen if Alabama passes on him
and I have heard that they might make room for him.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know. It's pretty hard to get talent out of Alaska too.
The University of Alaska-Anchorage has that state on lockdown.
by MattDNole on Dec 3, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Expecting something big from Miami
Coley has been in the 305 for the last few days. Yesterday he tweeted “Feeling Lucky!!!!!” Wonder if that referred to an upcoming commitment or if he was pulling a McPherson and spending the day at the Seminole Hard Rock Casino.
by basaltrock on Dec 3, 2009 10:42 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great idea for the Luc commitment story, if it happens
“Feeling LUCky in Port St. Lucie”
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
nah the WC teaser would be somethinc really creative like
Big commitment for FSU?
by tdchrisdavis on Dec 3, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Remember the shower scene in Scarface?
That’s what would happen if those coke dealers came anywhere near James Coley.
Great News but...
im afraid to place too much stock into next years commits as of now. There’s a lot of football/time between now and then. The next season will be critical for JF and for the stability of future classes. If we don’t play well (which i dont anticipate), then expect many to decommit.
Even though they are committing to a team that just went 6-6?
Jimbo comes from the ‘Saban School of Recruiting’ remember that.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Im completely with you
but seeing how we had a few decommit this year, i remain skeptical. I know the reason may have been due to stabilty issues which are now resolved, but i wont raise my hopes up yet. Hopefully we can salvage this recruiting class first. Go Noles!!!
I think that's totally valid
Long way to go, but this is a great thing- FSU is in the driver’s seat with these guys, and they are both going to be GOOD.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Totally, but this is how big time programs recruit. They get their sure things to commit early so they can focus in later on.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Think the coaches tell Eric Beverly to go public next?
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely not
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Have you heard Joyner talk?
His level of confidence is through the roof, and in a good way. Champ Bailey could be on the team and Lamarcus would like his chances to start.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Remember when Miami was on probation?
We waxed them 47-0 but they recruited like mad. Three years later they were kicking but thanks to Butch Davis recruiting. Playing time will be a big deal.
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"im afraid to place too much stock into next years commits as of now"
We hear this everytime someone commits. It is a cliche.
Reality is, 80-90% of the time, commits hold. But folks act as if it is only 10-20%.
I don’t get it.
Touche'
Hey im not complaining we got em…im just not ready to open a bottle of champagne either ;-)
Enjoy it a little...
don’t be cocky….but it is OK to enjoy it a bit. That is my mindset with it.
I am proud of the coaches.
It's understandable
How excited where we all when Miller committed? Or Ed Christian? Recruits usually stick, but not always.
by tdchrisdavis on Dec 3, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Why I said 80-90%....
and that is with FSU’s recent dysfunction.
Commitments are good things. Folks get too nervous about it.
I think your anticipator is broken... we will definatley finish better than 6-6 or 6-7 next year.
You realize that the ACC’s top offense and one of the nations best will be returning everyone AGAIN!
And, that any marked improvement in x’s and o’s again will net us a few wins by itself….right?
Yeah, right!
It think at least 3. Ga Tech was a joke. Miami should Never have been allowed to throw over the top without pressure that many times in a row on the SAME ROUTE and...
no way we loose at BC with a descent D.
I’m leaving out Clemson which is a real possibility and USF which was on the offense…but still a few less easy big plays would have given the offense more snaps to work with on the come back.
Yeah, right!
What about Jax St, UNC and Maryland
If you said we could have one above games then we easily could of lost these 3
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
But with a good defense
UNC and UMD don’t run wild on us. Nor does a RS FR beat us with two 70 yard bombs in his first collegiate start, and on the road. Nor is the NC State game close. And we’d have actually beaten GT.
yea, thats why i said i dont anticipate them going worse than this year.
Considering everything holds and Fisher doesnt hire Jeff Bowden as the OC and Amato as the DC (COULD YOU IMAGINE???)
Since these are Defensive Commits
Does that mean that the next DC has already been agreed to and our current coaches are recruiting for him?
Yes, but are they just FSU fans or do they know (wink,wink) who might be coaching them.
I understand that other programs want these guys, but they don’t know who their coach will be…Unless Buckley’s staying on.
NICE
if lsu and ohio state were so sue to offer them this early then I have no complaints….4.6 as a soph is fast as hell taking into account they probably dont have the technique down yet and are still getting stronger…great get this will be our future of recruiting this is just a sample
Yea, but that was different
Didnt he play DIII college ball? He played in a different NFL era anyways, they are much faster now. Still good point that speed isnt the end all be all
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by geoffissiffoeg on Dec 3, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Jery Rice played in the same division as Deion Sanders...
for that matter Michael Irvin played against Sanders as well. Both did well vs prime time.
Just another example of........
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Another thing I'd like to touch on.
Treasure Coast High School was founded in 2006-2007 in Port St. Lucie, which isn’t quite “South Florida” but in 3 short years seem to have built a strong football program. Playoff runs already, great players already. Establishing Florida State there could be a very good thing.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Great point SWFLNole and great pickup for FSU
Maybe they want to be around when their teammate Luc signs as well. *fingers crossed
Our team at one time can be
DE – Demonte McAllister
NT – Moses McCray
DE – Jacobbi McDaniel
LB – Nigel Terrell
LB – Nigel Bradham
LB – Vince Williams
LB – Nigel Carr
CB – Lamarcus Brutus
S – Lamarcus Joyner
S – Greg Dent
CB – Greg Reid
I realize that this is probably never happening, and that Vince Williams is the odd man out (unless I replace Greg Dent with Karlos Williams- then Greg Reid is the odd man out), but look at the names… lol…
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
The point is that we are getting talent in here
X Rhodes has a good chance to make that 1 deep. But even if we have some guys not develop we are putting talent at every position 2 deep. That is whats important.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Sanders ways over 200..
It doesn’t look like Joyner has that same room for growth.
and college is different...It's going to be a wake up call "You may no longer be the best player on the field"...
Another undersized “big hitter” in high school looked like he needed some assistance on a couple of tackles this year——> Greg Reid. He’s electric, and I’m on the bandwagon, I just hope we have realistic expectations of our freshmen next year.
While I agree with your sentiment overall
Reid was never considered the tackler that Joyner is. Reid’s best qualitys were when the ball was in teh air.
365 days, until I change my ways.
Lamarcus Joyner and Greg Reid are different animals
Joyner is the better overall prospect out of the 2 believe it or not. I expect Joyner’s impact on the defensive side of the ball to be better than Reid’s his freshman year (overall).
Reid > Dent
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
LOL. If you don't have a "Mc", Nigel, Lamarcus or Reid in your name you are not FSU caliber.
Only the best of the best.
by tdchrisdavis on Dec 3, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Top 1% of the top 1%...of Nigels, Christians, Lamarcus-es and Mcs....
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
what is funny abouyt that is everyone is brothers
on the line you have the McBrothers
The Nigel brothers at LB
Lamarcus and Greg family in the DBs Thats just to funny
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I'm from Port St. Lucie
Just graduated from PSL High School in 2009, I can’t believe I’ve never heard of these guys.
Oh well, great pickup! Treasure Coast High is a pretty new school, and they weren’t really our rivals, so I can say GO TITANS!
by FloridaState on Dec 3, 2009 1:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
lmao
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 3, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
The official board jester strikes again!
by PeachTreeNole on Dec 3, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Lamarcus Joyner....
Have you heard that scout.com or whatever it is just had an interview with joyner and he said he wanted to play for Bowden. He said he has dropped Notre Dame and FSU now… i think my brother found that on tharinger
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