My Letter to the Boosters: UPDATE
by Pinto on Dec 3, 2009 9:00 PM EST
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(Disclosure: I do not work for the Boosters. I am just a passionate FSU fan who wants to see their school compete and succeed at the highest levels.)
Many of you are familiar with the letter I sent to the FSU Boosters earlier this year. For those of you who are not, it can be found here http://www.tomahawknation.com/2009/10/11/1080133/my-letter-to-the-boosters. Long story short, I vowed to give up my football season tickets and not contribute any more money to the Boosters (I've been a season ticket holder and Booster for 10 years, since my graduation in 1999), unless some sort of definitive announcement regarding Bobby Bowden's future was made this year.
To say that a lot has happened since this letter was sent is an understatement. Most importantly, a definitive announcement was made about Bobby Bowden, allowing us to finally move forward as a program onto what I believe will be bigger and brighter days than we've seen in the past 9 years. I wanted to give everyone an update and also ask everyone to consider joining the Boosters to pledge financial support to the Athletic programs of FSU, so that it one day may be on par with some of the top programs in the country.
Along with another fellow TN member (RaysnNoles), I had lunch with the Boosters Director of Development for the Tampa area shortly after I sent that letter. He gave us some eye-opening statistics about the current state of affairs of our Booster program that I found both alarming and depressing. For instance, consider the following:
- In 1999, we had roughly 19,000 Boosters
- In 2009, we have roughly 15,000 Boosters
- NC State has over 20,000 Boosters...we need to step up our grassroots efforts to be better than that
- If about 20% of our living alumni base gave at the minimum level ($60) we would be incredible wealthy
The decline in Boosters over the past 10 years may have to do with their focus on the Dynasty Campaign and Legacy Campaign. They brought in large gifts, but the Boosters focused less on the foundation of our operations which is as many people as possible giving to the Annual Fund at whatever level they can afford.
I think what surprised me the most was the overall low level of Boosters that a school of our stature has, currently 15,000 (well, I guess 15,050 based on the most recent reports). I (mistakenly) assumed that in order to purchase season tickets, one must first be a Booster (I think this is the case at some schools). So I'm thinking we have upwards of 60,000+ Boosters...I guess this was wishful thinking on my part.
I like the recent reports I'm hearing about record numbers of Boosters signing up since the Bowden retirement announcement. That is encouraging, but we need more. As stated above, if 20% of our living alumni base gave only $60 per year, we'd be incredibly wealthy. I know times are tough, but $60 is not that much. There are even discounts for current students and recent alumni. Information about the Boosters can be found here: http://seminole-boosters.fsu.edu/Community/Page.aspx?pid=520&srcid=223. And I know writing this letter to the couple thousand or so people who follow this site won't all of sudden start a surge in donations, but it is a start.
Bud talks all the time about the ridiculous resources that schools like Alabama have in terms of financial support. Granted, I don't think we could ever reach their status in terms of Alumni support given that they are pretty much the only game in town in Alabama (Auburn aside), and in Florida we have to compete with the likes of UF, UM, and even USF and UCF to a lesser extent, not to mention pro teams that people may support in lieu of college teams. But, I do think with the new regime in charge it is an excellent opportunity to be a part of building a new Dynasty here at FSU. We all want the best for our football team and other athletic programs...well, it starts with us, the fans. We need to show our support financially, not just emotionally. Even if you can't be there in person to support the team on Saturdays, I implore you to at least try to give the minimum Booster amount of $60. And tell your friends. Before you know it, we may be swimming in cash and not that far behind UF in terms of financial resources. At least that is my hope...
Go Noles!
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Two nights ago I decided it was time to put my money where my mouth was and rejoined the boosters (stop giving about 6 years ago)…also joining a couple of alumni orgs at the school. I figure I’m mid career in a great job and have been blessed because of my degree from FSU. The school is taking bold steps and needs each and every one of us to support these steps. Scalp’em.
Everyone should donate to both...
the FSU Boosters and FSU Foundation.
FSU needs support for the WHOLE university.
This is the problem, there are mulitple places asking for money and multiple ways to give money. It’s a bit confusing. There should be one place and one way to give money. They make it way too difficult.
booster cash goes to athletics
foundation cash goes toward academics.
I understand the difference. It would just be a simpler process, at least for end user, if one orginization was responsible for it all, then distributed the gifts accordingly. Right now the process is split over multiple sites and multiple paths.
by lul on Dec 4, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly...
and I’ll get ripped for this.
I think FSU boosters and athletics have kept it this way because they don’t want to compete for dollars with academics. And athletics at FSU rules even more than at other jock schools.
I am all for sports, but you need to maintain your priorities at a university. In the end, I think it benefits everyone. When you lose your prioties, you wind up with TK as your president, Spetman as your AD, and just a general cluster #$# across the board.
But for now, I give to the FSU Foundation (academics) and the FSU Boosters (atlhetics). It isn’t that confusing….if I can figure it out….we all can.
Rec'd
It makes perfect sense. It is done that way by every school out there.
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
I really hope with this new Presidential hire we strike gold
If we actually had a President that could rally the alum and get them to donate and support and represent their university like UF, we would be amazed at what we could change FSU into. The University now is like the football program when Bobby took over. I truly believe so.
The second my wife gives the ok
I’m in. Even though I never went to FSU, although I might to get my Doctorate in Accounting. A few of my profs did that at FSU.
If you think i’m on a leash, no, its long term planning. The damage caused by setting the “not having to ask before buying” precedent is much more in favor for her than me.
"if we try to leave may God send angels to guard the door"
That would be a good arguement for the future but for now I don’t itemize.
"if we try to leave may God send angels to guard the door"
Party Time
The Boosters Director of Development for the Tampa said he would throw us a party and provide the food and booze in order to help recruit boosters. So if you are in the area let us know and we will see if we can get something set up.
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
ROFL
How would we know charlie ward?
I know charlie christ (well, his nephews)
his nephews?
No, they aren’t fat and they are from st pete
pretty cool kids actually
Yeah I just talked to him
He’s takin’ some of the credit for gambling stat skills :P
but he mentioned he knew you and I think you and I bumped into each other once or twice as a result…
But it appears he is doing well
Willis is extremely intelligent
Easily one of the handful of people who I would consider a genius. We often agree on what side is the “right” side.
Paid the same compliment to you
I, on the other hand, think your both full of shit
jp
But I do miss the late-night McDs
Well... I missed getting into the honors program based on my first term GPA.
I probably would’ve lived in Landis next year if I could. Cheaper than Ragans.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
Landis was nasty when we were there.
Probably a health hazard with the mold. But we had some good times.
Yeah Landis was a disaster
It was hysterical how some kids got Gilc, which had just been referb while other’s got landis, the armpit of the universe…
myjourneys took me through cawthon, deviney, smith and new hall—or ragan’s as they call it now
Yep... my rankings
1. Ragans (but far too expensive)
2. Wildwood
3. Landis
4. Gilchrist
5. Broward
6. Bryan
7. Cawthon
8. Reynolds
9. Salley
10. Deviney
11. Dorman
12. Smith
13. Kellum
and someone help me, what’s the name of the dorm next to the strip? I can’t believe I am forgetting this.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
thats only if you bother to go back to campus
why not just chill @ big daddy’s
i lived in degraff my first 2 years
im typing this from ragans right now. both are pretty sweet.
Kellum is worse than smith
even though its pretty much the same thing
kellum is NOT worse than smith
kellum can be dirty but i refuse to visit my friends at smith. There’s something in the air, mold or some other toxin. I enter the building and begin to wheeze. I feel like i just stepped off a plane into china.
When I was in school, Smith has NO A/C.
So my buddies over in Smith would hang out in sheer ‘luxury’ of Salley with me.
I lucked out and got the handicap room in Kellum
Room 913. Had a bathroom (with shower) and an extra room with a desk where I kept my computer. Lucky freshman year for sure.
I lucked out too and ended up in the hallway behind the front desk in Kellum. 5 rooms shared the bathroom. That’s much better than the usual hall.
I can't complain...
I lived in Gilchrist and then was 1 of the lucky few that was the first to live in landis after the reno….I can honestly say nothing is better then the view of landis green from landis hall during the spring time….
"Reporter: What will you tell the team at halftime Bobby?
Bobby: I'll tell 'em what I always tell 'em when were winning. Boys if they don't score we'll win this game"
Kellum sucks
My mom cried when she visited the first time bc she felt bad for me. I was sick for my entire first semester bc of the mold.
by noles 4 life u dig? on Dec 4, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I graduated in 07
I have to imagine FSun is somewhere around there
They renovated it. Probably 3rd in living.
1st in location. Wildwood is the only thing that beats it.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
i lived across the street while they were building wildwood
killed the view from ragan’s
Dorman hall was nasty
And the kids living there….it was a partial honors dorm when I resided there…kids playing magic cards on Friday night…ugh
I spent a lot of time over at South Gate, so many rich little daddy’s girls all doe eyed from finally having freedom. It’s a beautiful thing.
Im in
Ill be home in Tampa for the holidays, and Im down. My parents have been boosters for 30+ years, and I have never considered it until now. The time is now. Shoot me an email at jamesw1313@yahoo.com if it happens
I'm in too..
I’ll prob donate on site.. make sure your boy has some forms, etc.. on hand when we’re there!
I know, right...
Although I did email him a couple weeks ago, and it took him awhile to get back to me. I guess he’s been really busy lately, which is a good thing. Maybe we can just talk him into giving us the Boosters Gold Card or something…
If something goes on in Tampa, let it be known...
I’m at FSU as of this year but spent the last 2 in Tampa. my buddy who got me to FSU (current booster) and my girlfriend are down there… I’ll be there a few days over break then were headed out to Utah. I’m a student booster now but thinking of bumping up for future ticket benefits and in support of recent developments.
If something goes on, let it be known… well get out if were in town!
Definite eye opener
I made the move in becoming a Booster earlier this year. I will spread the word and “recruit” buddies (alums) of mine to do the same, if they haven’t already
Great read Pinto.
I'm ready to rejoin the boosters
but I disagree about being able to be on par with schools like Alabama as far as resources go. FSU Football was pretty much one of the most important things to me my entire life despite never stepping foot within 100 miles of Tallahassee until I was 24 years old. There are thousands of people like me across the country. Probably tens of thousands. Mostly people who jumped on the bandwagon. Personally, my dad mandated that we like FSU because he went to school there. But there are people who just liked the team from our flare in the 90’s. This site is a testament to the demand for FSU football greatness. The people are there….we just missed out on the techonology age. It’s become a lot easier in the past decade to become more closely connected with a team despite geographical distance. I’m happy to give to the boosters as long as we’re running a competent program and I think most of the users here feel the same way. I’m interested to see what this site can do in the next few months to increase booster support and membership.
*&^% this.... I am in!!!!!!....
first post ever and great article….class of 99 and glad that we have a new chapter starting for FSU! Go Noles….Scalp Em!
by LatiNOLE on Dec 3, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I am back....
just signed up to the booster’s annual membership…
just signed up to my local alumni assoc…..
…Finance and Multinational Business….(with a minor in Bullwinkles and Fatty’s and Skinny’s….)
been out of the country since graduation and now back in the (305) for some years. Final note…Bobby love you to death but….“I gotta feeling…..”
Dude is an animal...
Cali today, back in Miami tomorrow…
I can’t wait for his Cuban coffee tweet that is sure to be forthcoming tomorrow!
you think..
coley would be a good OC? he’s just had the one year experience at IU
Not after this Bowden affair was handled.
I said earlier last week that if I saw a classless move made by FSU regarding Bobby then my money is no longer going to the school.
As of yesterday I have…….
1. Cancelled my FSU Mastercard that I’ve had for 15 years. No more money going to FSU.
2. I have called the tag agency and told them I want a regular state tag and I no longer want my FSU tag which I have renewed for the last 15 years.
3. I am no longer buying FSU stuff
4. I am ripping up all letters I get from the boosters from now on and there will be no more contributions which for the last 15 years has been much more than $60 dollars a year.
5. No more trips to Tally in the near future.
I wish the coaches and players the best but I will not fund FSU with money right now after what has transpired this week.
sorry you feel that way.
You’ll either come back or you won’t. Makes no difference to the tribal faithful.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
That's too bad.
The powers that handled this so poorly will probably be gone by the end of the school year.
SCALP 'EM SEMINOLES!
Awe man
We can’t change the past—we can only change the future and right now the future is lookin’ hella bright.
Sorry it hurt you so badly—we’re gonna need all the support we can get to make this great for Fisher and his staff.
Hope you change your mind.
Perhaps you can get a Bobby Bowden mastercard, but
what about the move? That they didn’t retain him? Something else?
Unfortunately he was killing this program along with some really worthless assistants. “Aw shucks, at least you’re a good family man” doesn’t win ball games. It did if you had a huge talent advantage, usually.
I'm sorry, but...
…you appear to be in the minority. Otherwise, the Boosters wouldn’t have reported record numbers of new members signing up. Obviously, a majority of people were happy with the decision. And I haven’t heard anything about any Boosters leaving (besides you)…
Found this hacked chat transcript on a message board:
TK_nOLeZ! : “Just saw that sll1728 has cancelled his FSU Mastercard… among other things… seems pissed”
AimHigh99: “Dammit. I’ll give him a call in the morning. Hopefully, he’s not doing anything too drastic….”
TK_nOLeZ! : “Not sure you can talk him off the ledge. Give it a try, though. He’s also not renewing his FSU license plate.”
AimHigh99: “HOLY SHNIKIES!! well there goes our chances at getting a DC this year!”
TK_nOLeZ!: "Seems he’s not even opening the letters we send…. "
AimHigh99: “Seriously?”
TK_nOLeZ!: “Not even f’ing playing, dude. Says he’s ripping them up….”
AimHigh99: “Noooo….. Really?!?”
TK_nOLeZ!: “I gotta jet… but listen. I need a full report ready for the BOT meeting Tuesday. Talk to him and get the scoop. I need to let Jim and the gang know soon if we can afford to field a team next year.”
AimHigh99: “No probs TK… I wonder if he would like another Bomber flyover…”
TK_nOLeZ!: “Just get it done Randy… I’m out…later, freak.”
by coonhound on Dec 4, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This is what I don't think people understand
FSU tried to let Bowden come back next year. Bowden refused to do so unless he had control over the staff. Anyone in their right mind would look at the situation and say, we have to let Jimbo hit the ground running in 2011, and having different staff for 2010 and 2011 will only further damage the program.
Bowden refused this deal.
FSU couldn’t come out and say, Bowden is being unreasonable, he doesn’t recognize there is a problem with the assistant coaching, he wants to promote Chuck to Defensive Coordinator (and has for several years) and won’t come back to coach unless he can do that.
So FSU has kept its mouth shut, and decided it will protect Bowden and his legacy and take the heat for not retaining him.
This is why FSU sent its players out to the press conference. Because if TK or Spetman had to come out and discuss the details of the negotiations, they would have either had to lie or it would have looked bad for Bowden, and they didn’t want to do that to him.
watching the game on NFL network
The long snapper for Buffalo is Garrison Sanborn, a 2007 grad. His mother Kay is my mother’s boss. When my dad was sick with cancer in ‘05 Garrison got coach Bowden to sign a football for him. He’s number 65.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
New
I am joining the boosters for the first time ever! The future looks bright~!
Pastornolen, also thanks for joining and posting on here on TN.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
Don't question if I am a fan of FSU
I am a die hard FSU fan. I have been a fan all my life and hold two degrees from there. I have given FSU a lot of money in the last 15 years.
But that does not mean I will blindly following the bandwagon of fans who “THINK” they know what is wrong with our football program by throwing the man who gave us something to cheer for under the bus. That is wrong and so I will not give money to the school any longer. They no longer represent what I want to give my hard earned money towards. I will still cheer for FSU, but I will not give them money anymore. If that makes me less of a fan then oh well.
I didn't say Bowden wasn't part of the problem
There are multiple issues regarding the FSU program that needs to be fixed and tossing Bowden out in the street thinking that he was the only broken part of the problem is moronic.
So you recognize that he is a problem but still think he should be employed
Makes sense
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Yeah, no offense, but this guy doesn't make any sense.
I can’t imagine why you would feel the way you do, especially when any other coach would have been gone LONGGG ago. The only problem at FSU was Bowden and his ass. coaches, and they are gone/going to be gone. Problem solved.
by FloridaState on Dec 3, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
he's just angry right now
he’ll either come around or he won’t, doesn’t really matter.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Will the move allow the guys now in power the opportunity to fix other issues like firing Andy Urbanic,
Amato, Carter, Andrews, and Allen?
I know
It just says a lot about him. I don’t even believe his original post now. I think he’s just trying to stir the pot.
by FloridaState on Dec 3, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
armchair QB's? FSUn has more football knowledge on the mole growing on his left testicle than this clown has in his whole body.
Sorry to disclose such personal info Bud, but I was told about the mole by Heather.
>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em
So wrong......
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Dec 4, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Is that your left or his left?
Don’t forget to switch the sides around if you were looking at it from behind.
Bobby Bowden isn't the only person being "thrown out in the street", that's for damn sure
And if you call a multi-million dollar parting gift being "thrown out in the streets: I’m gonna go ahead and say we’ll miss your donations very very much :-)
But no seriously, there will be a large amount of immediate changes. Nearly every issue facing FSU football is being addressed so I don’t know what your problem is. It just so happens that Bowden is at the forefront and rightfully blamed because he hired (and never even THOUGHT about firing) the problems that plagued this program.
Dude, he was an enabler of a lot of the problems.
"if we try to leave may God send angels to guard the door"
Would any other school hire Bowden to coach?
At the price we were paying him? No?
Is that school at FSU’s level? No?
Sorry, past performance doesn’t deserve future compensation when you can’t even come close to replicating that past performance.
Again, we are sorry you feel that way
Its been great having Bowden here for so long and I think we can all agree we really hung in there with him through thick and thin. The university has rewarded him greatly and though it has recognized that Bobby’s time as a coach has passed him by, they extended an olive branch to coach Bowden by inviting him back in an official capacity as I don’t think anyone can stand the thought of football at FSU without Bobby Bowden.
Now its up to Bowden as to whether he can stomach the truth, whether he can confront that he is getting up there in age and that it is his time to truly be a fan of the university that he not only changed, but the university that stuck with him and gave him the opportunity to change it.
We all hope to see him back next year as we hope to see you back, too.
i dont understand
you’re alienating yourself from the university but you’re still a fan?
now i might be wrong here (i haven’t been getting a lot of sleep with finals coming up) but isn’t being a fan having pride in your team and wanting to be associated with them?
I will cheer for FSU, but disassociate myself completely…
I refuse to believe that you stole 2 degrees from FSU
because you show very little ability to think logically or objectively. You view doing what’s best for millions in the sacrifice of one man’s feelings as “wrong”. I suppose the rest of us that still have pride in the product that represents FSU to wallow in mediocrity for as long as Bobby Bowden feels. Whether you like it or not, all good things come to an end. If you truly are an FSU fan you’d understand that a sacrifice had to be made for the future success of the program and with all due respect to Bowden, from the looks of things its already paying off.
Fact of the matter is
The Bowden situation was never going to end well. It never does when a person has overstayed their welcome and has to be given a map to the exit door. FSU leadership has to accept some degree of responsibility for this mess since they allowed Bowden to turn the FSU football program into an ATM machine for his family and friends, while the product on the field became substandard. A lot of talented teams were squandered along the way (You mean to tell me we couldn’t have at least COMPETED for a NC between 2002-2004 with all the horses we had?).
Look, we all appreciate coach Bowden’s efforts, and his resignation is what compelled me to start posting on TN (Only been readin since about Aug.). Hate to say it. But how long would Jeremy Foley have allowed this BS to go on B4 he pulled the plug (OUCH!)? Would Pete Carroll even have the nerve to try? NO, Mike Garrett would do physical harm to Pete at the mere thought. FSU leadership failed, but Bobby’s ulterior motives hurt the football program and led it to fail as well. In the end his presence was being used by rival schools to drive kids away from FSU. Once again, where else would this be allowed to happen? A way overdue change was finally made.
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 4, 2009 3:23 AM EST up reply actions
Those 2 degrees haven't done you damn bit of good, have they???
You’re a Bobby fan, not an FSU fan.
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Dec 4, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
everyone hates it
but again it was time to take the keys from dad before he hurt himself and others. It’s an ugly truth. Now that it’s over, let move on.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Read TN for awhile, finally joined
I recently graduated in ‘08 and I don’t know what it was like for some of you when you graduated, but I don’t remember getting any information after graduation to join the Boosters. Did anybody else? So, Pinto, next time you meet with the director of development maybe suggest to try and focus on getting graduating seniors to join. Maybe even give them an incentive to sign up at graduation, say 6-months free to see the benefits. Just an idea, I probably would have joined sooner had I received Booster applications in the mail or was contacted via e-mail.
"One score and fourteen years ago FSU brought us Bobby Bowden, a future legend, conceived in winning fashion, and dedicated to the proposition that all Seminoles are better than gators and 'canes" - Abra'Nole Lincoln
by Abra'Nole Lincoln on Dec 3, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions
i really doubt...
FSU even has my mailing address, I’ve moved several times since leaving tally!
DUDE
LOOK AT ALL THESE NEW POSTERS! THE SUPPORTERS ARE COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORKS!
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
tha'ts the problem i have w/ boosters, they don't do a good job contacting recent alum. they feel we should contact them. that has to change.
i graduated in 05 and will find out if i was chosen to be a part of the alumni board for my school (nursing) towards the end of the month. the first topic i bring up will be the poor efforts to recruit new alumni w/ micro donations. micro may turn into macro- when these new alums are more established in their careers. the boosters should be no different in this approach.
Graduated 2007 and have not been contacted.
81FSUNole, if you want the best example of Micro, you need to look at Clemson’s IPTAY program!
I don't know if it has anything to do with ticket sales
but I got my first mailer after I went to the Iowa State game in KC several years ago. I’m not a grad. There is something wrong with a fundraising organization when it doesn’t solicit those who have put more into their cause.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
I Haven't been contacted either.
Graduated in June.
I've been getting the alumni newsletter..
and on it.. they tell you to donate!
Do they ever setup a booth/table on campus? I think if you stop students in person most would cough up $20 on the spot. Now going out of their way and filling out a form they receive in the mail or online… that’s too much work.
by lul on Dec 4, 2009 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
whoops this was meant to be in response to mmf07 below who said he signed up his first year as a student.
by lul on Dec 4, 2009 2:38 AM EST up reply actions
Hm.
Honestly, I don’t remember how I first found out/was interested in boosters, but I had a lot of leftover money from working in high school, and $100 bucks for a four year membership seemed like a steal at the time. I have no prior history at FSU, other than being accepted and coming here, but I’m a huge college football fan and love to support my school
wow, I've gotten booster mail before I started giving and I didn't even graduate there.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Just Joined
sll1728 thanks for giving me the courage to join. Just put $500 on my American Express
Booster from North Dakota!
My first post here, been a Noles fan since I was about 10…have to give them a call tomorrow and see what I can get done!
by Noles Fan in ND on Dec 3, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions
They'll be happy to hear from you
I’m thinking about doing the same and bumping up my status. BTW… Is this former QB, DW?
Give Now
A Seminole Booster representative will contact you to make giving simple. Please email a daytime phone number to Drew Weatherford at dweatherford@fsu.edu or by phone 850-644-3484
http://seminole-boosters.fsu.edu/community/Page.aspx?pid=600
guess he needed a job..
after graduating!
Um...
perhaps contact someone else.
This blog started because I did a big analysis concluding in a plea for the coaches to bench Weatherford and start Ponder.
I remember that
I also remember the days before Uncensored and pals when nafeslon ran the show…poorly.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Dec 4, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
I think your twitter math is wrong
The Constitution was ratified in 1787…222 years ago.
Bowden (80) + Andrews (67) + Amato (63) = 210.
The 3.12 million is far more important.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Dec 4, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
that is drew
g/f works with him.
actually a pretty nice guy, really quiet.
i didn't imply that you were
i dont want to say i was surprised, but you just never know with athletes. sometimes they see normal folk as beneath them.
Great Post
I signed up for boosters my freshman year for the 4 years I’d be at FSU, and I plan on giving as much as possible upon graduation. Everyone should give as much as possible to help our great school and rebuild our great football program!
i’m looking forward to the day i get great parking. just need to up the ante a bit as far as my booster contrib goes, but i am well on my way.
I encourage you to donate as much as possible
In the case you can’t some booster recieve 2 passes and sell the other at reasonable prices ($100 or so)
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
i was just thinking about the antiFSU/pull funding camp that sll is a part of
isn’t a unilateral pulling of funding just putting your opinions out of the cares of the booster organization.
the threats that some members on this blog made to pull funding was for a purpose. “If you keep bowden/amato/etc around, we wont pay for anything.”
sll (and others) thought process is: “I dont like what you did; im going to pull my funding.” What exactly can the boosters/university do to fix the situation? You’re basically losing your voice in the way sports are run.
F*** it
Just sent the last bill to the DUI lawyer and tomorrow I’m ordering Jags season tickets and becoming a FSU booster.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 4, 2009 1:42 AM EST reply actions
Boosters
They definitely need to start doing a better job of contacting current students and recent alumni. I have never heard anything from them outside of the senior gift when I was flat broke. Now that I am getting back on my feet going to start out on the Renegade level, hopefully can maintain that for now until i get a real job.
I agree
As soon as I have the 60 bucks, I’m becoming a Booster. I’m not a grad, but I do plan on being one if I go back to finish my BS. However, I’ve been a Nole since day 1 of my time on Earth, partly because you can’t say no to FSU sorority baby-sitters growing up.
Also, long time reader, first time posting. I’ve used this site countless times to show people what the true state of Noles football is in.
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Thanks for finally joining and posting. We had been talking about you and were wondering when you were going to finally get on board. Weldome.
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Thanks for all the great feedback guys
I plan on sharing this info with the Director here in Tampa and letting him know where they are falling short as well as all the new success that we are having/
I will see if I can get details on their marketing strategy for graduating students? Any other questions you would like asked?
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Ask them if they would consider starting a marketing campaign with joint FSU/TomahawkNation Visa or Master Cards. Hell, we'll even stoop as low as Discover Network cards.
We know at least one former supporter who will be looking for a new credit card soon.
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Hell I'm down
LETS DO THIS!!!
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by gonolesrolltide on Dec 4, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
suggest they expand the recent grad 50% discount
to graduate students (particuarly those who did not attend fsu undergrad).
I don’t see how that would hurt them, and getting a graduate degree doesn’t exactly guarantee that you will be making bank. Plenty of grad students are only a year or 2 older than undergraduates anyway. I think the concept of a discount as you start out is a good idea, and expanding it slightly would probably bring in more people than they would lose.
I think the idea behind the discount
is that it brings people in at a higher booster level. You get used to having your seats (for a discount) and when the time comes and the discount expires, you are less likely to downgrade your status.
It isn’t as though the stadium is full up anyway, and by giving the discount, you are setting yourself up for the time when the product on the field dictates increased contributions. In other words, here is a chance for more people to get on board now, while the getting is cheap.
Joining
I am not a student or alumni, i have been an FSU fan since 1987. I am 37 now and got my degree at another college. I am from Georgia. I will be joining the boosters this year. I have wanted to join before but never go around to it. Go Seminoles!
I want to get my season tickets back...
I let them go in 2007. They were section 27 Row 77 and I want something comparable if I can swing the required booster donation. The booster membership, alumni association and joining the Tampa Bay Seminole Club will come first even if I have to just make it to a game or two.
NoleBall
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With the decline of season ticket sales in the last few years I don't doubt you could do much better than your previous seats
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Boosters and Season Tix
If I join the boosters at Renegade level ($300)…It looks like I can buy 2 season tix in Priority I or II. Are the season tix the same price as they normally are, with just betters seats?
Hell, I'll join Tomahawk level if someone can get my GMAT requirement waived for the MBA program...
I can not focus on preparing for that think ;)
Season tix prices are they same no matter where your seats are
The prices vary from year to year dependent on how many home games there are
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I'm pretty sure
at the Renegade level, you can only get Priority II tickets. You would have to go up to Warrior ($600) to get 2 gets in Priority I…see below
http://seminole-boosters.fsu.edu/community/Page.aspx?pid=1091
When you join/rejoin Boosters this time...
…personally inform the leadership that you are holding them accountable this time around. I urge everyone to do this. I also encourage those who can to get involved beyond just sending the check in. I have no problem stating that I am not a fan of AM, CB, etc., and if I were so inclined (I’m not today – it’s time to get our wallets out), I would have no problem posting some of the most embarrassing and frustrating e-mail transcripts you’ve ever seen, as well as my most scintillating recollections of phone calls that would require the use of many ****ing little ****’s like these (*’s), and no, I’m not only talking about the handling of Bowden. I’m talking about the fact that you and I could walk into Seminole Boosters and in a week have 1,000 new members signed up. I’m talking about IPTAY and small donors and internet and students and where the hell are these ideas (in any real capacity) at Seminole Boosters? I know I’m the killjoy around here sometimes, but I post these thoughts for a reason. Please, if you’re going to jump on the bandwagon, consider making an impact. It’s your money, and the school desperately needs new energy in athletic fundraising.
Graduated in 07, Masters in 08, and now a booster at the end of 09. Probably wouldn’t have joined without this post.
I was going to wait until next year to join
But I figured, let’s just get it done now, I’ll take the tax deduction :)
I like the energy the program (especially Coley) is exuding right now.
A little off subject
we gonna get together and bash lil’ timmy during the SECCG tomorrow or what??
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Congrats Tomahawk Nation
It has been just under 24 hours since this story was posted and by my count there are 14 NEW Booster commitments with 5 of those being confirmed in this thread alone. I encourage everyone to follow through with your commitment and give whatever you can. I have also taken note of your concerns and will relay those to the powers that be.
We are still in the process of setting up a Booster get together/fundraiser party over the break, I am initially shooting for Sunday December 27th, it allows those who are home for the break to attend and there is also a FSU basketball game that evening. Please feel free to email me your thoughts and interest in the date or other possible dates.
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Good job all
And great job on the article. I’d love to head over to Tampa since its only a 2 hour drive, but it might be hard to swing for the 27th. I’ll let by best friend/FSU grad know, and he may stop by.
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Just signed up - 12-6-2009
Told myself that after I graduated in 2001 I would support the team…then rescinded that when Bobby promoted Jeff. Over the years I have continually said that I could not support Bobby’s poor decisions, and especially given his comments about those who would dare to criticize him.
I’m totally on board with Jimbo, and look to increase my donation amounts as possible, ut the following really hit me…
If about 20% of our living alumni base gave at the minimum level ($60) we would be incredible wealthy
I need to be part of that 20%, even if I can’t give what I’d like to right now (2 kids, 4 and 2, and a baby on the way).
Thanks Pinto!
Hey Buddy, congrat's on the new one on the way.
Listen, next time we talk privately, remind me to tell you how to prevent this from happening again in the future. That is if you are interested in stopping and not just doing if for the tax deductions. If it’s a boy, you should name him Jimbo, and if it’s a girl, Coley.
Congrat’s.
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