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Offbeat Friday: Florida State Recruiting Coordinator James Coley is the Solution to Your Commitment Issues


A few months ago, Tomahawk Nation was able to get exclusive access to the daily schedule of FSU's linebacker coach, Chuck Amato.  Since then, we have been working with our connections to try to find out just what it is some of the other coaches do with their time.

Today, our hard work has finally paid off.  Your humble proprietor of MattDNole's Premium Content was allowed to follow Coach Coley around for a day earlier this week.  Inside this story, you will find my journal entries of what that morning was like.

*Disclaimer- Due to the risk of over-HYPEment and excessive SWAGgeration, we ask that women who are pregnant or are trying to get pregnant, those with heart conditions, and the elderly refrain from trying to read this story.  This Coach Coley story is not for readers whose SWAG levels are currently maintained through the recreational use of Red Bull or other artificial stimulants.  Ask your doctor if reading this Coach Coley story might be right for you.

**Disclaimer 2: Electric Boogaloo- For those of you who are unaware, yesterday Coley secured the two commitments from Palm Beach, flew to Los Angeles and got a commitment from Mike Harris, then flew back to Miami in order to visit a prospect today.  You can follow Coach Coley on Twitter at www.twitter.com/CoachColey

Star-divide

4:00am

You know those old cartoons where they show a farm gently waking up in the morning?  There's always the same song with clarinets and oboes and stuff playing in the background, the Sun always seems to yawn and take a stretch, and the rooster gently crows as the quaint farmer and his wife get a start on their day.

Being woken up by James Coley is like being thrown on stage at a Metallica concert in your boxer shorts while people throw water balloons at you.  It's 4am and he's banging on my hotel room door wondering why I'm not dressed and ready to go yet. 

"The sun isn't even up yet, Coach."

"True Seminoles ATTACK the Sun.  Make the Sun afraid to get up today.  Dude.  I'm totally gonna tweet that."

"But it doesn't even make sense, Coach."

"Get dressed.  We've got work to do."


4:30am

You know what's depressing?  Checking out of your hotel at 4:30 in the morning and looking over at where the complimentary breakfast will be in a few hours.

"Coach, do you think we could stop and get a donut or something?"

"I'd rather tweet than eat.  Besides, I've conditioned my body to live off Cuban coffee and Juicy Fruit.  I don't have time to eat."

We've got 4 recruiting visits scheduled for today.  One in Tampa, one in Orlando, and a couple in South Florida.  James likes to get an early jump on these visits.  In state recruits are important to the regrowth of the Florida State football program.  James likes to be as prepared as possible to meet Florida players and coaches.

"I've read every book report this kid has ever written.  Did you know he said he cried at the end of Where the Red Fern Grows?  That book about the dogs."

"Well that's a pretty sad book, Coach.  I mean... the dogs do die at the end."

"I had a dog once as a kid.  I took it out for a walk.  It died of exhaustion before we got home.  I still miss Swaggy."

"You named your dog Sw..."

"Not now man.  We made it to (NAME REDACTED FOR NCAA RULES PURPOSES)'s high school."

"Coach.  It's 5am.  Nobody is here yet."

"Exactly."


6:00am

It's been an interesting hour.  Coach and I scoured the outside of the high school building looking for windows that might have been left open and loose doors.  Coach wanted to get in and get a sense of the school.  "A true Seminole studies his environment" he claims.  When our efforts at breaking and entering failed, Coach and I drove to the school bus depot and convinced the foreman that (NAME REDACTED FOR NCAA RULES PURPOSES)'s regular driver was sick and we were the substitutes.  I am now sitting on a school bus as James impatiently waits at (NAME REDACTED FOR NCAA RULES PURPOSES)'s stop.

"No time to wait.  We got work to do."

"Coach, we're like 45 minutes early."

"45 minutes?  Then there's still time!!!"


6:45am

Most people wouldn't be able to drive a big yellow school bus from Tampa to Orlando and back within 45 minutes.  Most people aren't James Coley.  Coley wanted to make sure he knew the directions to the next high school we had to visit, he had some free time, so he just drove there.  The most terrifying 45 minutes of my life.


9:00am

Watching James Coley on a recruiting visit is like watching a potter work with clay.  He knows EVERYONE's name: secretaries, teachers, coaches, administrators... students.

"Coach, umm... how do you know these kids' names?"

"Facebook, man.  I studied (NAME REDACTED FOR NCAA RULES PURPOSES)'s friend list.  You gotta be prepared.  It's SWAG or b SWAGGED.  Ooh.. I'm gonna tweet that."

(under my breath) "I figured you might."

"What was that?"

"Nothing."

Some people might feel shady about friending 18 year olds on Facebook.  For recruiting coordinators and college football fans, it's just a way of life.

Apparently Coley's intensive studying pays off.  In the last 2 hours he's secured commitments from 4 football players, 2 coaches, 8 cheerleaders, and a mascot.


9:15am

Our last visit took a little longer than Coley had hoped.  He's behind schedule.  For the entire drive from Tampa to Orlando Coley checked his blackberry for updates on TomahawkNation and Warchant (This time the drive was accomplished in 15 minutes.  Don't ask me how.  I don't know.  I'm not sure if James Coley travels on land.  I think he elevates and the Earth moves beneath him.) He also constantly studied a 3 ring binder of information collected on our next recruit.  While driving.  105 mph.  On I-4.  I haven't wet my pants since I was 4 years old.

 

 

 

 

Until today.

 

11:00am

Once again, Coley was able to work his magic.  The entire marching band just committed to Florida State.

"That was easier than I expected.  Those kids really wanted to be Noles.  We can actually take our time driving to our next stop.  Mmmm... I smell the 305!!! Hey, I'm gonna..."

"You're gonna tweet that."


12:00pm

The relaxed drive gives me a chance to get to know Coley a little better.  We are able to talk about life, hobbies, politics, and his favorite movies...

"And then he says 'Get the hell off my plane!'  And kicks him off the plane.  That was awesome, but I really don't know why Harrison Ford keeps copying me."

"Wait, what?  Harrison Ford is copying you?"

"Definitely.  I beat up 15 Russians just yesterday.  Just for fun."

"Coach, since we have some free time, can we get something to eat?"

"Here.  Drink some of this coffee."


5:00pm

I awake in a daze.  I cannot feel my lower extremities and my hair is mated to my face.

"You don't have enough SWAG for the coffee."

Clearly.

 

6:00pm

I beg Coley to drop me off at the nearest airport.  He has made his South Florida visits and decided to take a trip to Kansas to see a JUCO linebacker.  I simply cannot keep up.  Plus, I'm pretty sure I need my stomach pumped.  I thank Coley for his time before hastily leaving the car to catch my plane.

I'll leave you with a few interesting tidbits I gleaned during the day:

  • James Coley neither sleeps nor eats.  Both are consequences of his addiction to Cuban coffee.
  • The character of the Ultimate Warrior was based on the life of James Coley.  He was also a consultant for the movie "Scarface."  James was 9 at the time of filming.
  • Do not leave James Coley alone with your girlfriend.  Despite being a happily married man, he'll still recruit your lady just for kicks. He has no intentions of doing anything, he just likes the practice.  (PS- When your girlfriend calls him and he turns her down, he calls it a "non-commitable offer.")
  • After his 5th cup of Cuban coffee of the day, life slows down for James Coley and he sees everything as if it were in the Matrix.

 

The life of James Coley isn't for everyone.  It definitely wasn't for me.  But I am absolutely certain of one thing: James Coley is a baaaaaaaaad man.  And he's coming to get you.  And he'll probably talk you into committing to Florida State.

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Coach Coley

Once beat up Chuck Norris just for kicks!!

by pokernole on Dec 4, 2009 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

No he beats him on a regular basis. He is the master!

Coach Coley beat down Father Time at the beginning of time and has been immortal for a long long time. He saw potential in a young Chuck Norris and taught him how to be a man (coach Coley being the ultimate role model) and also how to hone his lightning fast (but still way slower the Coley) reflexes. And thus began the training of Chuck Norris in the Tomahawk Chop ™ and The Spear Technique™ ancient and secret arts now known as karate and psionics .
Before writing this I wrote my last will and testament, made peace with god and finalized my funeral arrangements. My next of kin have been notified as my life is now forfeit for revealing this secret information!
So let it be known Coach Coley is actually the Grandmaster and sense of Chuck Norris. Now you know this is just a fraction of the true scope of Coach Coleys power!
Goodbye all!

Unconquered GO NOLES !

by Renegade_NOL3 on Dec 4, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

there is no theory of evolution

there is just a list of animals Coach Coley has allowed to live

by oregonole on Dec 4, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Brilliant

I can’t stop laughing. Proud to have him as a Nole. SQUAD UP

by Funbags on Dec 4, 2009 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

Ahh I miss

Calvin and Hobbes….

"Reporter: What will you tell the team at halftime Bobby?
Bobby: I'll tell 'em what I always tell 'em when were winning. Boys if they don't score we'll win this game"

by fsugrizz on Dec 4, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

“nothing helps a bad mood like spreading it around”

-calvin, after pissing off susie derkins

by NorthernHaze on Dec 4, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish we could have him cloned

so we can have 10 Coach Coley’s recruiting! Squaad Up!!

by Squaaad Up!! on Dec 4, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

I laughed out loud several times at that...

well done!!! I love following (or trying to follow) his tweets.

by LilburnNole on Dec 4, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

hahahahahahah

hahahahahahahahahaha

Pretty sure my coworkers in neighboring cubes think I am a weirdo now.

Great write up!

by MKE Nole on Dec 4, 2009 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

I am in the same boat MKE Nole

I had one cubicle neighbor come over to see why I was laughing so much. Great article.

Go Noles!!

by AbeFroman21 on Dec 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Coley lives vicariously

through himself and once had an awkward moment just to see what it would feel like…

by Polk Nole on Dec 4, 2009 9:55 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

coley

“the most intresting man in the seminole world”

What we do in life, echoes in eternity.

by Okinole on Dec 4, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

ROTFLMAO

“Do not leave James Coley alone with your girlfriend. Despite being a happily married man, he’ll still recruit your lady just for kicks. He has no intentions of doing anything, he just likes the practice. (PS- When your girlfriend calls him and he turns her down, he calls it a “non-commitable offer.”)"

Great job MattD, hilarious!

by CSI Nole on Dec 4, 2009 9:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

A Coley Tweet...

…makes Matt’s piece seem almost accurate:

  
Just landed in the 305, shouldve let me FLY the plane, we wouldve BEEN here hours ago! MIA get ready!!

by Drew J Jones on Dec 4, 2009 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Just saw that myself

makes the write up that much funnier lmao

by truenole87 on Dec 4, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I really wish i could meet this man.

I think it would change my life forever.

by Nole93 on Dec 4, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Outstanding job!!!!!

When Chuck Norris goes to sleep at night, he check his closet for James Coley!!!

by noles305 on Dec 4, 2009 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

This was my favorite! Laughed out loud!
The sun isn’t even up yet, Coach."

True Seminoles ATTACK the Sun. Make the Sun afraid to get up today. Dude. I’m totally gonna tweet that."

“But it doesn’t even make sense, Coach.”

“Get dressed. We’ve got work to do.”

by REtaxNole on Dec 4, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Nice

This is what I picture Coley driving during this narrative… and the music playing also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDbON8udTPo&feature=fvw

"if we try to leave may God send angels to guard the door"

by FSUvaFan on Dec 4, 2009 10:06 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I never understood what you all meant

since I dont do the twitter thing. I decided to see what this guy is about, and how he is such a monster recruiter.

W.O.W.

The man is a beast! I was ready to commit to FSU even though I have no eligibility…

by Miaminole on Dec 4, 2009 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

Question

Does he remain RC when he gets the OC job? Seems like a lot to handle, any other OC’s out there of prominence with both duties?

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Dec 4, 2009 10:14 AM EST reply actions  

Coley would likely relinquish RC duties, imo

It’s possible Craig takes over as RC, or, if Jones is hired as a DE coach, he could double as RC (he’s done it before). Will we hire a separate ST coach?

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet 99% of people could look at this and then Coley’s twitter and not be able to tell you which one was the parody

by Tyler_155 on Dec 4, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

Coach Coley

I heard he’s a ten-foot tall beast man, who showers in vodka, and feeds his baby shrimp scampi.

Actually, that’s Bill Bradsky, but Coley is uber-bad*ss nonetheless.

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 4, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

Did I ever tell you about the time Coach Coley and I went out for a drink? We went to an abandoned parking lot and waited six months as they built the bar around us. We had a couple of drinks, and then Coach Coley burned the place to the ground, saying, “You should always leave things how you found them.”

Yeah, that’s actually Bill Bradsky, too, but it works for Coley.

by ScalpEM_TX on Dec 4, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

"TO BILL BRASKY!!!"

Bill Brasky is a son-of-a-bitch!!!!!!!

by Pinto on Dec 5, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish more people knew about him

I would guess to say that 75% of fans have no idea who he is.

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Dec 4, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

When he’s named OC and people will say “who the hell is that guy?” it sure would help knowing how ahead of time much he has committed himself to this program. We are very lucky to have him

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 4, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Im sure we could ask...

Dick Vitale. He seemed to know a lot about Fisher.

by egynole on Dec 4, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Cant find the article but heres his twitter

Bobby Bowden deserved a better ending to his great career! Why is Jimbo Fisher the answer as he has been there thru these times

by egynole on Dec 4, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

"Up waiting for the sun to rise"

Is an actual Cooley Tweet.

This guy is awesome. He is going to be hard to keep around as I hear his offensive football intelligence matches his commitment to commitments

So thanks James for putting in your all while your here…Give us 3 or 4 memorable years before you go, would ya?

GO NOLES!!!

by Trus1te on Dec 4, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

I could live with that.

Gators’ tears of unfathomable sorrow are delicious!

by Drew J Jones on Dec 4, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Gainesville would turn into another Lake Okeechobee

and I would be happiest guy in the world!!

He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!

by gonolesrolltide on Dec 4, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep, got it.

Just trying to be cool with my failed “make it green” comment

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 4, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Would we hire a new te coach? RC, OC, te coach is alot of work, even for coley. i figure him and jimbo will share oc duties.

by fsw83 on Dec 4, 2009 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

I want Travis Jones badly

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Dec 4, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Ditto

He could be DE/RC. Obviously he’s an assistant line coach in the NFL now and he’s been an RC for Saban in the past. What about an ST coach for the team? If Craig were to replace Carter, Jones replaces Allen, Smart replaces Mickey, we’d still have a slot for an LB and another for an ST coach.

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

DB/DC, same as Mickey

I wouldn’t expect him to be RC on top of that. No insider info from me, though.

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If he can jack the offense up like he does recruiting, we might put up basketball scores on people...

Jimbo’s elite top 5 offense jacked up by Cuban coffee Coley….

"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath

by NaGaNole on Dec 4, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I much rather him stay at rc then te coach. Would craig take over or a new d staff member?

by fsw83 on Dec 4, 2009 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

OT but the off season thread has disappeared...

FSU made the not top 10 on SC vs UF. The play where Zebrie Sanders never moved.

by jasonole59 on Dec 4, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

People who don't know Trickett think Sanders messed that play up....

He was probably the only one who didn’t have to run gassers for messing up…

"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath

by NaGaNole on Dec 4, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, the idiot CBS announcers kept calling a trick play during the game

when the OL didn’t move….It wasn’t until the end of the game when they almost figured out what they were doing.

by jasonole59 on Dec 4, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

trickett could have went to the booth told them why they were doing it. they still would have said it was a trick play.

by fsw83 on Dec 4, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow Matt top notch

1: Where the Red Fern Grows. do they still read that as a Fr in HS.
2: Do you think Coley can stop in and talk to some DC also and recruit them.
3: Who is the better recruiter Coley or Fisher. I was under the idea Fisher was and if he is then what does that say about him.
4: I though Budd Thacker was the only person able to have a life like this I guess I was wrong.
5: When I looked at this at first I though man he realy got to do this. Then I read it and thought man Matt you are to damn funny. Thanks for the post it was great for today. Im surprised though you didnt do something yet on how CTC looking for a HC job or getting his pink slip.

Again This was sweet.

Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

by Desman on Dec 4, 2009 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

I read that in school

but I think 7th or 8th grade. Not sure. I enjoyed it. Definitely a sad ending. LOL

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely brilliant

This article deserves nothing but a rec and a slow golf clap. You have now entered legendary status MattDNole, joining Coley. Nicely done. MiNDSeT: Booo Yaaaa

by 1newplayer on Dec 4, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

If I could mobily rec, I would.

This is awesome.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."

by geoffissiffoeg on Dec 4, 2009 12:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Dameyune Craig

why is everyone so hyped up on him being on staff? I’m not being negative, I really want to know. Besides him being a Fisher guy, Tuskeegee(sp?) and USA aren’t exactly premier programs. Why isn’t he being sought by bigger programs?

by jasonole59 on Dec 4, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

solid recruiter, good ties in bama, played for jimbo and did it well...

they will have great chemistry and CDC can get into S. Alabama/NW Florida and recruit… hes got a lot of good ties and a great reputation down there, Saban has hand picked those areas the last 3 years, even Auburn has been locked out. Mobile talent is GOOD talent.

not sure why bigger schools havent been calling but he was very likely waiting on a good opportunity w/ someone he has ties to, I wouldnt doubt if he knew when JF signed the HCIW deal that he would someday have a chance to be on staff w/ him… they are real tight.

by econole23 on Dec 4, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but he's not on Saban's staff NOW, though he's likely been available.

I trust Jimbo’s opinion. It just doesn’t seem the track record is there? How good can he recruit? He hasn’t been recruiting for a team in the same league as FSU.

by jasonole59 on Dec 4, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess because everybody has faith in jimbos coaching decisions.

by fsw83 on Dec 4, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

Sounds odd, but one thing I'm really pumped about, Pre-Game speeches/pep talks...

By Fisher, Coley, and I’m sure the DC coach will be high energy too, no more Bowden snoozers…

by karmanole on Dec 4, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

True that...but

make no mistake about it, Bowden was the king of motivational pre-game speeches back in the day. He used to get so excited that all the players were pumped up through the ceiling. Another value Bowden lost over the years.

by CPNole on Dec 4, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO!

’I’m not sure if James Coley travels on land, I think he elevates and the earth moves underneath him.’

by econole23 on Dec 4, 2009 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

Coach Coley

Makes me want to run through a god-damned brick wall!!!!!!!

SQUAAAAAAAAD UPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Pinto on Dec 4, 2009 12:57 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

MiNDSET????

SQUAAAAAAAAAAAD UPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!

by Squaaad Up!! on Dec 4, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Dec 4, 2009 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Frank

Your girls are in town tonight. I’m still debating whether or night to check em out, tix are over 30 bucks.

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Dec 4, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think

Coach Coley’s kidneys must look like raisins after all that Cuban coffee. But I guess some sacrifices must be made in order to recruit pretty much every breathing high school football player.

by Nole2k10 on Dec 4, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

It's been really quiet since Coley visited LJ this morning...

James probably returned to the Fortress of Solitude to take a quick nap.

by MattDNole on Dec 4, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

Great job Matt !

Rec’d

Unconquered GO NOLES !

by Renegade_NOL3 on Dec 4, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

maybe sta has the kryptonite to coley.

by fsw83 on Dec 4, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Hey tricknole...

Thanks for the defense on the other site regarding the TNation DC article. Not really sure I should post it over there with my account for them or risk being banned. Just wanted to say thanks for the plug.

by MattDNole on Dec 4, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

Ha

I made mention of that when the article came out on WC a few days later. Either the thread quickly fell from the first page or it was deleted. I didn’t really keep up with it.

I didn’t particularly agree with all the anti-Bowden sentiment on here but I think the info this site provides is the best on the net. I go to WC for the message boards. There are just a lot more topics to choose from to comment about. Like why does our offense always stink under Hamilton and why the “freeze” play by Trickett isn’t a good idea.

But you’re welcome. I plugged it the other day on ND too.

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

But I think a lot of ND readers are TN readers

and the site has a general hatred for WC/Dot, like this one does

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

We talked about basketball a lot more last season around this time.

There’s just been so much football stuff distracting us. Hang with us, we’ll get back to it a little more soon.

by MattDNole on Dec 4, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Hamilton's awful offenses...

This is the site that took a lot of crap last year for referring to him as “Recruiter” Hamilton instead of coach.

by MattDNole on Dec 4, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I've defended him the past several years

I defended him even after that embarrassment to UF. But our offense still hasn’t really improved. Only ~5 more field goals than turnovers in the Old Spice Classic. Shooting like 38% in our past 6 games. Even against the 3 cupcakes we faced to start the season we only had roughly 5 more assists than turnovers. So I quit defending him during the Ohio State game and decided I was over it. I’m glad he made us relevant again, but let’s get someone better.

And his offense has NEVER been good. Without Thornton and Douglas to carry the offense on their back their senior years, we’re not that good. This is an exact quote I said the other day in MY thread on WC titled “I want to can Ham”:

We are winning games because we are out-athleting our opponenets, not because we are better coached. We are losing games because we are worse coached, not because we are out-athleted.

We have TEN 5 and 4 stars combined on this team. We can physically compete with any team in the nation, from our starting 5 to our 2 deep. We just look like deers in headlights on the court.

I was called a dumb fan and a bad fan. Someone actually said they wished they could can me. Idiots.

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

We only had 3 uppperclassmen last year (one of them strictly a role player in Reid, not sure why he starts this year) to go along with 6 freshman and a new sophomore transfer. I thought he did a pretty good job.

This year he has enough talent to squeak into the NCAAT, imo, even with our abysmal offense. That obviously buys him another year, where we may finally bring in a point that can lead the team for 4 years in Miller, which would allow the team to do just well enough to make the NCAAT and lose 1st round again and provide “ample” reason to bring Hamilton back again.

The guy is making $1.5M which is like top 20/30 in all of MCBB. I want results. I’ll take a quote out of Fisher/Saban’s book. It’s PROCESS ORIENTED, NOT RESULTS. Our offense lacks consistent process, despite lucking out on some of our results (wins/losses).

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I always pull out that I was a big basketball player back in the day

And that I went to 5* for 4 sessions over 3 years.

Not once did any coach, black, white, purple or green mention coach Hamilton as a note-worthy coach.

I don’t even know if he was even qualified to coach there.

He just doesn’t coach well, I don’t know what else to say.

And who EVER thought Carlos Romero was going to be a good basketball player?

Thats the other thing—he has a habit of taking the worst of the highly rated recruits rather than taking the best of the lower rated recruit

Like, I’d rather have a 3* guy who shows some promising footwork than a 4* guy who is never going to be able to move his feet to save his life.

by Trus1te on Dec 4, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see the argument that he takes overrated or misevaluated players. But Snaer wasn’t a top 10 player when he found him. Singleton wasn’t top 30. Thornton was a complete unknown.

And I think guys like Echefu, Reid, Rich and Swann were properly rated 4 stars (just as examples). If they were put in systems to maximize their abilities and their head coach actually had a system that he’d proven to be effective throughout the years, we would’ve thought, hey, these guys are pretty good players afterall.

It’s like the guys on our football team’s defense. A lot of them are very talented, but they never stood a chance.

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I get your point

I think both evaluations of his program are correct

But when I see guys like Douglas and Thornton I don’t think “look at what Hamilton did,” I think, “look at how they improved themselves.”

His system of coaching doesn’t inherently make his talent more talented and its a complete shame because he is bringing in the kids he needs, he just isn’t developing them.

But I will say he takes a disproportionate amount of duds to begin with…

by Trus1te on Dec 4, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think there are too many duds on our roster right now.

I truthfully think if a Boeheim, K, Williams, Self, Calipari, Pitino, Calhoun, etc had our roster, we’d be a Sweet Sixteen team with ease. I guess we’re lucky we only play Duke and Carolina a combined two games this year. Maybe we’ll squeak into the NCAAt even without being a “process oriented” team.

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I will conceed to that point

I’m pretty confident I could take this team to the tournament…Which is what pisses me off I KNOW I could perform @ a higher level.

There are just some coaches that don’t understand how to teach the fundamentals to the players; they focus on the game holistically but don’t understand how to teach the individual elements

by Trus1te on Dec 4, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Good to see they are consistently retarded in their logic

The same philosphy is applied to football, good thing we just locked up Ham for another 5 years.

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Dec 4, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I ve said it for a while now

Hamilton is a bad ass recruiter bur the man just can’t coach period. Like you mentioned earlier if it wasn’t for Picket, Thorton, and Douglas carrying the offense with their ridiculous shots during their respective senior campaigns he would have been canned a long time ago.

by BS37FSU on Dec 4, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I totally agree. Hamilton got lucky he had Douglas

or his ass would be burning from a hot seat. Never liked when FSU hired him and I think he is over rated. I can’t wait until he leaves and and he can take Mike Martin with him as well.

by 1newplayer on Dec 4, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

See, he wasn't lucky

He brought Douglas in as a transfer. While maybe we got lucky that Douglas was unhappy at Auburn, it was no accident that Hamilton was able to haul him in.

It’s not luck that Hamilton finds a guy ever couple years that is a star. He’s one of the best recruiters there is.

by tricknole on Dec 4, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Like you said

He was lucky Douglas was unhappy and came here. Without Toney Douglas what kind of team are we? A bottom feeder is what. I agree he is a great recruiter, but he is a terrible coach. Nothing in his career and watching his teams play has led me to think anything different.

by 1newplayer on Dec 5, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Some of his evals

Are really bad…I think he gets the guys he does because the intelligent players and/or the players who have options (not guys like Douglas and Thornton, two second chance guys) don’t want to play for him.

If Donovan can make UF’s program worth two shits I think Ham can make ours worth 2 pence.

by Trus1te on Dec 4, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Since we are on a roll with coaching changes
www.fireLennyHamilton.com

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>-----:----:------>Spear 'em then Scalp 'em

by FrankDNole on Dec 4, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

What are the chances

with Saban and Fisher being friends, that Saban been grooming a DC for Fisher all along? Nah, probably not.

by jasonole59 on Dec 4, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

hahahahaahaha

Saban has no friends. Just ask everyone in the Dolphins organization how great of a friend he is

by BS37FSU on Dec 4, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt, your post got linked on theterritory.org

They actually liked it

It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee

by RaysnNoles on Dec 4, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

Great Post

Haven’t given you props yet MattD, but you’ve managed to segue from James “the tits” Coley to Saved By the Bell to Ladies Lengerie football? Brilliant work.

We need Offbeat (hmm, no one’s caught the pun there yet?) Friday every week. I mean, how the hell else am I gonna make it to five o’clock

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 4, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

awesome!!

Great work, SQUAD UP!!!!!!!!

by disturbednole on Dec 4, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

did posts about material being lifted (trying to be vague) get deleted?

I saw that something I wrote was replied to, but I cant find it now.

by Miaminole on Dec 4, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Let's not talk about it.

Let’s say that just because a certain law student was driving from Tuscaloosa to Atlanta for a conference championship game doesn’t mean he doesn’t notice the goings on of the site.

by MattDNole on Dec 4, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Just what we need

Finally, someone besides Jimbo who puts the program first, and his own personal comfort second. He remembers who the enemy is in recruiting and knows we have an uphill climb. The enemy doesn’t sleep either. You go, Coach Coley!

Old School Nole

by chokeindoak on Dec 5, 2009 3:45 AM EST reply actions  

It is going down!

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."

" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!

The process begins!

by DocHoliday2 on Dec 5, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

James Coley would get a commitment from Tim Tebow

and from the NCAA to give him 4 more years of college eligibility, but Coley doesn’t accept players who cry.

by basaltrock on Dec 5, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

this was hilariousss hahahah

“Coach, do you think we could stop and get a donut or something?”

“I’d rather tweet than eat. Besides, I’ve conditioned my body to live off Cuban coffee and Juicy Fruit. I don’t have time to eat.”

"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley

by jfree on Dec 6, 2009 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry I'm late to the party, but got rec'd by me

and I think I may have woke up a few neighbours by laughing so loud.

I was like Tebow – except mine were tears of joy !

:D

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Dec 6, 2009 2:20 AM EST reply actions  

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