Port St. Lucie (FL) Treasure Coast Middle Linebacker Jeff Luc Commits to the Florida State Seminoles
by SWFLNole. on Dec 5, 2009 6:06 PM EST
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Ht: 6’1’’
Wt: 241
40 Time: 4.6
Ratings: Rivals 4* LB #25 overall (former 5*), ESPNU 150 #6 overall
That’s right 'Nole fans, the Seminoles have officially landed one of the best players in the country, with the news that MLB Jeff Luc has become a Seminole. Jeff is an elite prospect, which is fueled even more so by the fact that he is so physically advanced for his age. He is ready to step into a program, be coached on the scheme, and run down hill so he can nail some ACC Running Backs. Oh, and hit he can. There isn’t a player in the country that can lower the boom like Jeff can. The recruiting persistence of James Coley was the driving force behind landing Luc, and it is an important commitment that both fills a need in Florida State’s class, and also raises the talent level on the defense.
Behind the jump we will talk about scouting of his strengths and weakness, his recruiting adventure, and add free video!
Recruitment:
Jeff’s recruitment has been a roller coaster ride if there ever was one, early in the process Jeff stated that if Florida State had offered early he would have committed to FSU on the spot. However, FSU’s lame duck LB coach thought that Jeff was too big to play LB at FSU, and that he would end up at Defensive End somewhere. However, in reality Jeff is built extremely well for his age, a physique that many have compared to Patrick Willis, and he is the perfect size to play Mike LB. Jeff stated that he would be an early enrollee, so his recruitment sped up extremely fast. FSU, UF, UM, and Tennessee all had to feel good about their chances at one point or another in the process. He was rumored to have silently committed to UF and FSU at different points this fall. Eventually, the Seminoles won out because of the stellar pursuit of James Coley who was steady on Jeff Luc, watching his games anytime he could get down to that part of the state over various other recruits. He knew what he wanted and he got it.
Ratings/Evaluation:
Jeff started the season as a 5* recruit, in the top 10 nationally, and considered by many the best LB in the country. Some people, as with happens with elite recruits, wanted to nitpick with him and pointed to a lack of fluidity (stiff hips in coverage). If you watch him play TE you can see more of the hip fluidity, but he really isn’t asked to do much coverage at Treasure Coast so it is harder to evaluate that part of his game. That, coupled with a 4* type senior season, account for the drop in his national Rivals ratings. However ESPN stayed steady in their evaluation that he is a top 15 player in the country. Make no mistake though, this is a huge get for Florida State, and he is still a great player. Part of what makes him that way is the fact that he is physically ready to play. LB is a serious depth problem at FSU. Kendall Smith played the entire year at Mike (poorly), and Vince Williams sat the year with an injury. Despite many people’s cries for Nigel Bradham to move to Mike LB, he has remained at Sam. The fact is that Jeff offers immediate depth, and our DC can get him into favorable matchups where he is reading things in front of him, going downhill, and tackling in space which are things that he excels at.
Scouting:
Luc is incredibly physically advanced for his age, literally has prototypical Mike LB size, or close to it already. He is very built, and compact. While he is not the tallest guy he still has very long arms which help make up that difference. One thing you will notice when watching him play is that he has a nose for the football, he is always around the play; often ending it himself. In run support he rarely gets turned away due to his elite strength, and he scrapes well with blockers/trash in the area. He does have hips that are on the stiff side, he is at his best when running down hill or side to side in a straight line. He doesn't have the upside of a lot of 5* LB from past classes due to some of the flaws. What is surprising if you just see pictures of him is how athletic he is, playing TE in high school he has shown it, but he is truly athletic on defense as well. He could play at a lot of schools right now.
Here is some free video on Luc:
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it cant get much better
gators get whooped and we get the best recruit thus far!!! BTW this is my first post and i look foward to learnin alot from all my fellow diehard noles fans!!! GO NOLES!!!!
by hntdeerliv4noles on Dec 5, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Welcome aboard!
Thanks for reading.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome Coley Tweet:
If ur SCARED u should BE…. haha
I'm scared of Coley
and he’s one of us
by tricknole on Dec 5, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully
They all keep falling in!
GO NOLES!
by Cedinole on Dec 5, 2009 6:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
!#%!#%
I had to graduate next year before the next football season :)
Wow!
This has been a great week since Bowden’s announcement… If we can just pull Joyner, Jones and Green…
Right now, Coley is the MVP of this football season. Hands Down.
by NoleRaised on Dec 5, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Coley needs a raise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just wish he would have had a chance to hit tebow just one time@!
Let's crown him the next Derrick Brooks after he's played a down
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 5, 2009 6:19 PM EST reply actions
James Coley, Pirate king of Treasure Coast!!!
Stay tuned my friends, more to come this week ;-)
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Joyner Next?
Im getting too exicted! Need to calm down!
LOL, I checked warchant and saw a thread about this. checked again just now and...
it’s been deleted.
do they think that they are on the only ones that know what’s going on? They didn’t even break the story.
BOOM!
Popped on (from watching Noles DC in SEC Championship game. :-) ) to see if any news and got this!
Stay classy, Tallahassee!
TN has been so full of good news recently
If I’m anywhere near my computer I’m always checking haha.
BAMA SCORES! see theres some more!
Amen to that.
I have the Internet browser on my phone on 24/7.
by egynole on Dec 5, 2009 6:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Question about the hips fluidity thing?
Didnt mickey say in the begginning of the year that nigel bradham had stiff hips and that todd stroud worked with him and he came a long way with looseing him up? If so i dont think it would be a problem loosening Luc up too.
Yes their hips are very similar coming out of HS. I dont see it as a huge problem playing Mike.
365 days, until I change my ways.
think they made him do
yoga or pilates or something “girly”
by StM on Dec 5, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
I know this is completely off topic, but if you think yoga is girly, try it one time! Bet you cant walk in the morning.
It is girly
But it’s one of those girly things you respect. If that makes sense. It’s not like purse shopping
Get Ready for the Floodgates
We just need Jones and Joyner now. Plus with the Under Armour game soon, we could probably make moves for Elam and Green. Who knows who else
Ferguson
Hicks
JEFFCOAT!!!!
FSU has been in the drivers seat for Green for some time.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm almost losing track of all these new names...
Brutus, Smith, Pettis, Harris. Dent switching. But LUC now too..? Things are looking up.
Can I have Coley’s address? I want to send him hysterical fan mail.
just amazing!
just think about it we are doing this with what just 2 or maybe 3 recruiters…just imagine what 2011 will look like
Wait til you see what Eddie Gran can do in South Florida
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t see him coming here. Word is he wants a DC position, we aren’t offering that. He has ties to Amato, Fisher wants none of that.
Kudos to you guys that run this site!
You guys are all really awesome! Dont see how you put all the time and effort into this, but i am sure glad you do! A big thank you!
We do it because we are passionate about FSU football. We dont get paid, but we love this stuff more than anything.
Thanks for reading!
365 days, until I change my ways.
by SWFLNole. on Dec 5, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd pay $9.95/month for a TN subscription
Seriously… Best site hands down!
by CSI Nole on Dec 5, 2009 7:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Amazing.
We all appreciate it more than you can possibly know. It’s great to see the dedication put into this site by people who care about FSU sports as much as we all do.
by seminoleballer on Dec 6, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
It's Official
I’m gay for Coley. I just told my wife I was leaving her for James Coley and the funny thing is she said she understood…
Only after I told her it was over and she should seek other options. She said something about a man who loves Cuban coffee...
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
And the funny thing is...
…I’m totally cool with that. Not sure who I am more jealous of, him or her…
As far as his HS film goes
His LB play looks more impressive to me than Nigel Bradham’s did. Whiplash after whiplash. His hips look pretty impressive in some of those TE clips too. Nigel at strong, Jeff at Mike, who exactly is going to fill the hole at weakside? Maurice Harris? I kid I kid….
"We had a little come-to-Jesus meeting. And it was fire and brimstone." Jimbo Fisher on his halftime adjustments.
by Yarborough4Heisman on Dec 5, 2009 6:53 PM EST reply actions
Craig Yarborough will come back next year as RC
after Coley is promoted to OC. He will make Coley look like Jeff Bowden as a recruiter.
"We had a little come-to-Jesus meeting. And it was fire and brimstone." Jimbo Fisher on his halftime adjustments.
by Yarborough4Heisman on Dec 5, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
No one knows. It's a slipped disk, so hopefully it's healed, but you never know with those things.
Backs are terrible injuries.
Tools Whore
Yep
My girlfriend has a herniated disk and every so often she can’t move for hours on end. Now, she isn’t getting top-flight medical care – but she isn’t trying to play football either.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Dec 5, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
the unfortunate thing about herniated discs is that each level, the verterbral column, contains nerves that innervate specific areas throughout the body. if one is “pinched” it coudl affect a really important area. for example, if the C4-C5 is herniated it can put pressure on the dermatome that will affect the left arm….ie cause numbness and weakness…this is true throughout all the nerves in the body. look up dermatomes. dont trust me, i just sell beer and such :-D
Lol sounds like u stayed at a holiday in express
by egynole on Dec 6, 2009 8:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Barring any unforeseen
occurrences, Vince will be ready for Spring practice.
I hate how it's finals week
because I can’t get off TN long enough to study.
by basbalstr101 on Dec 5, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
coley says finals are irrelevant. forrest gump needs finals, not NOLES :-D
you tell your professor you will eat the final and crap its answers.
I knew big things were going down.
I’ve been lurking here all day… not that that’s much different than any other day.
Let's not forget we are finally getting rid of TK Wetherell
and will likely replace him with the director at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (a $300M research facility) who was Dean of his College at Penn State and Dean of his School at Texas. Based on his interview, he’s got that academic swag we sorely need.
I had not heard that...
that is fantastic!
I love my school, and hate people always trying to act like our education isnt a good one. I look forward to having my cake (respect for school) and eating it too (FSU FOOTBALL BABY IS BACK!)
that’s because people, generally, in florida are retarded(no offense to those that are really mentally retarded). im not even joking. seriously, that’s why i got out of there to go to grad school. well, that and the humidity. FSU is an incredible institution and will only get better. UF is so freakin intimidated it’s not funny. we have better students, better recruits, a better city. i go to Duke right now but i’m missin’ tally really, really bad.
Holy Crap
I just watched the video, I would be scared out of my pants to see this guy running at me.
>>---,,->
Scalp 'em Seminoles!
This is ..............
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAwwwwwwwwwweesoooooommmmmmee! TN far exceeds anything i’ve seen on the net. When it rains, it pours.
I've never seen a guy make players fold like Luc does.
They literally bend in half and look like whiplash victims as Yarborough4Heisman stated.
So true.
Usually if there are a couple of those plays thrown into a player’s tape it’s a good thing, but with Luc it’s like EVERY HIT is a monster blow. I’m excited to see some of the highlight reels he’s about to make as a Nole.
by seminoleballer on Dec 6, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
An Early Christmas for the Noles
Jimbo’s the new coach
The gayturds WILL NOT go wire to wire
AND WE GOT JEFF LUC!!!
Schadenfreude!
The only downside I guess is it will be even more impossible to pry a kid out of Alabama…
Tebow is crying...
what a great way to top off the night!!!
Timmy: “LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME I AM SO HUMBLE!!!!!”
Hopefully Luc will make other Gators cry…
Ti-may's Cryin'!
Okay. Now that the Gators have lost, can TN go ahead and announce Smart as our DC?
Maybe? Maybe? Yes?
whistling to myself as I hit refresh on internet explorer
Stay classy, Tallahassee!
Yeah!
Coley is just tearing it up these days. Welcome to the Noles Jeff. Fantastic news and again another pickup at a position of need. So much good news coming our way.
i love coley he is f***ing awsome
His tweets are the best too
by BS37FSU on Dec 5, 2009 7:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Deon Rogers
Does he come with Luc too? I hope we get Jones and that is it for LB….How sweet is would that be?
That's silly, we have NO LBs outside of Carr and Bradham...
We’ll take 8 if we can…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Akuna for sure
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
But I think FSU will accept Rogers
others disagree with me
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Noles Not Getting Shaydon Akuna
I understand this significant shift towards getting the Polynesian athletes. No one will say that Troy Polamalu, Haloti Ngata, or Rey Maualuga were not outstanding college football players. All 5 stars and NFL first rounders mind you.
But a common thread run with these guys as it does with all athletes being recruited to play major football: family.
These guys want to stay close to their families, much like a lot of players do, and the fact that Akuna’s family would not be able to see his games all the time will probably be the biggest factor in where he goes. I think he stays out West, but points to Holy Moley Coley for recruiting him.
ps. WE NEED MATT ELAM!!!!
don't hold your breath on Elam
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 6, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Show me a quote from Alex Luc that says Matt Elam is headed to FSU
It is all interpretation at this point, important not to twist meanings of things.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 6, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
He implied it
and Matt Elam’s saying things like “expect the unexpected”. Obviously its not like him saying he’s headed FSU but with all these things transpiring: the news of Luc and Elam being close friends/wanting to play in college together and Elam submitting EE papers to 3 schools (FSU being one of them)
I think saying not to hold your breath means there is no possibility when in actuality there is (even its a small one).
Implied = interpretations
I base what I post off of solid info from my sources and friends. Until I hear something that makes me comfortable to say that, I will refrain.
I think it’s great to predict and all, that’s all many of us can do, but I try not to take rumors and run with them. I think Elam would be this year’s Greg Reid (kind of a duh statement, I know) and I hope he flips, but I don’t think it will happen at this moment. Not saying it can’t.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 6, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn't as good as I had hoped
But I really don’t see where you are getting this Harris love from.
He's going to have to work hard to keep his roster spot under Jimbo
That could be said for everybody, though
>>---l>
We are switching to a 3-4
We need linebackers big time, especially if Smith switches to UGA. Even if he doesn’t, we should take Rogers.
Coley and future coaching staff
Is Coley really going to be promoted to OC? didn’t he step down from TE coach last year or two years ago? He is a good recruiter but i don’t think he is ready to take the offence i think that coach Fisher is going to hook up all his friends that have coached with him look at the names..Sal Sunseri (alabama lb) Bill Miller (Kansas co DC) Eddie Gran (Tenn SP & RB coach)
Coley will be our next OC and he will be fine in that position.
He has OC experience and some people eevn think he might be a bit more creative in playcalling than Fisher on offense. Either way Coley has that job position locked up.
How solid is this commitment?
What a glorious day…UF still doesn’t have an undefeated season, FSU gets a stud…hopefully the Bulls and Blackhawks come through,
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
Extremely
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
No one can talk about this!!! I need my money!! I need to ban people!!!
Reading my posts is a privilege and I will ban anyone who disagrees with me from the Internet for life.
I hear we may get a guy from another the NFL. I will post a blog about it and charge $10 more for you to lay eyes upon it
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his brother said he was gonna bring ppl with him. im assuming it is a package deal. There’s getting some other recruits to come to Florida St. with him. to be some surprises (recruiting)," Alex said
Jeff Luc's brother goes to FSU
I guess he said that Jeff will be bringing some teammates with him to FSU (probably Rogers)
Alumni is plural
Alumnus, or just alum for short
And I’d rather Luc recruit guys our coaches are after, not necessarily his teammates, like Green, Jones, Joyner, Mitchell…
Yeah maybe he hits up some of those guys at the Under Armour game.
Joyner, Lemonier, Jones, and Hubbard will all be at that game with Luc.
Luc was not shy about trying to get schollies for some of the guys on his HS team.
That’s one reason why he waited so long to commit to a school.
Congrats Jeff Luc!!!
Welcome to the Good Guys!
Watching the highlight clip
it’s funny to watch some of the players on roll outs who are supposssed to block him – they don’t want anything to do with him
YES!!!!!!
Ready for the floodgates to open. This guy is a gamechanger. Pumped to see him make his commitment!!
Nice!!!!!!
I can’t wait to see Luc and Bradham as our ILB’s next season. Some people will get jacked up next season!!!!
Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
Funny how the media rips FSU fans for being "spoiled"
“Criner then caught a long fade pass and fought through a tackle into the end zone, silencing the nearly half-empty Coliseum crowd watching USC’s second home loss in three games.” half empty already??? They’ve just “endured” a 9 win season.
by egynole on Dec 5, 2009 9:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Question
How sick could our class be if we recruited hard on offense?
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
No
Pryor was beastly enough at what, 210? And we’ll have a big back in Smiley. Zone blocking teams don’t usually use a FB do they?
Alex Luc (Jeff Luc brother) said
"There’s going to be some surprises (recruiting)," Alex said predicting some more good news for the Seminoles in the game of recruiting. "There will be a domino effect." The next few weeks will certainly be interesting.
That's what we've been saying too
stay tuned
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
That's encouraging.
Sounds like Luc is going to put in some effort towards getting some of our targets onboard.
by Drew J Jones on Dec 6, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
I just watched his video!
Seriosuly, a lot of those hits reminded me of Jefferson from Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Luc picked these dudes up and just smashed them into the ground, I thought one of the kids was dead!
Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
off topic
Not to take away from the Luc news, because that’s huge, but can someone clear up the confusion for me… I have read so many conflicting stories of what needs to happen for FSU to lock up the gator bowl. From what I understand, Clemson needs to win. Then VT goes to chick bowl, but what about GT? How would it make a difference if GT wins?
by Scalp'emLikeuMeanit on Dec 5, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions
luc not coming alone to fsy
yes there is more coming with him, commiments from lamarcus brutus, keelin smith , also coming is eric alvarez, possibly ed foley dont be surprise if deon rogers jeff stayed true to his teamates til the end what a class act coley did a fantastic job with the titan recruitment
No offense
but who are these other kids? Eric Alvarez and Ed Foley? and what year are they? They haven’t been mentioned all season.
Coley has locked down Treasure Coast
young, upstart football program- could pay huge dividends down the road
(all paraphrased from a SWFL post earlier)
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
My question is about Alex Luc’s quote saying Jeff will help bring in recruits. Is he talking about HS teammates or FSU targets? Because titanborn said the HS teammates are preferred walk ons not scholarship players.
both teammates and outsiders
he doesnt need to recruit teammates they are coming there may be some suprise recruits coming not frm treasure coast
Will do
Cheerleaders could be hotter
But I’m checkin out a few of the vids now, prospect vids, not cheerleader vids.
lol
cant have it all you want hot luc or hot cheerleaders
Who won the game?
I passed out while Bama was ahead!
Those close to me were saying don’t worry Jimbo!
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
My guess is anywhere from 3-6, public or not
depends on who wants to wait until the AA games to do it on television like Shaw.
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Luc and Harris for 2010, Pettis, Smith and Brutus for 2011
And Brutus would’ve been a BELOVED commitment for Ohio State fans.
More Commits Coming?
Anyone think we’ll get commitments from Joyner, Jones, Green, Lemonier, Shaw, Mitchell, etc, soon?
by NolesHeatBraves on Dec 5, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions
Wish the kids from Bryes weren't EE's
We might could’ve made another run at them. We really need DLinemen.
yeah there is a DE from there were recruting.
The Brynes kids are from South Carolina.
Warchant
should be ashamed of themselves for taking peoples money for the same great info we get here.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Well
you guys do a bang up job. I’m totally hooked. I look forward to all the latest in this new and bright Seminole era.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Thanks, we dont want a rivalry. We think we stand on our own merit.
365 days, until I change my ways.
understood
you stand tall nonetheless. We’re all tribal faithful.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
If there was a rivalry it wouldn't even be close
by FSUjab on Dec 6, 2009 1:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's why they are doing no warning, 30 day bans over there now
There are so many free stories out there that Dotty doesn’t want to lose customers. He even claims those sites are stealing their information from him.
Let us talk
I was going to leave a link but it is really not needed as this is well I am stayng away from this. Yup Yup Lord I am stupid!
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Roll Tide Roll
The short side you will understand
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Nah. I think Ingram wrapped it up tonight, especially with McCoy struggling
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 5, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
He told us he was coming.
He had some barbeque at his house and he invited all the FSU coaches late in January. So instead of a night recruiting, our coaches ate some burgers with a guy who would go on to beat us 3 times. LOL.
He also didn’t want us recruiting other RBs.
However, considering how things turned out, he probably made the right decision.
by tdchrisdavis on Dec 5, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
I can't forgive him for wasting our staff's time with some stupid ass bbq
when we could have been courting RBs who would actually come here
You know how lazy our staff was back then…we couldn’t afford them to waste that time.
Fuck Spiller. I’m glad Clemson lost and he’s out of the ACC now.
Although when you think about it, an FSU cluster &^%$ is still about the same level as Clemson. They were still choking away every opportunity presented to them. And he would only have had to endure Jeffrey for about a year. So the question is, did Jeffrey have what it takes to ruin CJ Spiller?
Never thought about it that way
If we had Spiller in year 1 of Jimbo we probably score more points because you can scheme around him. We might have won the ACC in Year 2 just because Spiller probably would be worth one more win that year. Crazy how one player in a class can change so much.
by osceolafan850 on Dec 6, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
both nigels on the outside (my personal dream duo)
with a healthy vince and some luc mixed in the rotation at middle will be a solid linebacking corps to rebuild this defense.
the new DC is definetly gonna have some good talent to work with.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
This is amazing!
Florida gets spanked! and we get a great ILB! Luc and Brahdam will be unstoppable next year!!! If they get a good LB coach then FSU will once again strike fear into the offenses they line up against!!
PONDER IS FRANCHISE!
im imagining it now
john brantley next year for UF comes up under center, looks up and he sees….nigel bradham on one side gritting his teeth and snarling, at middle luc chopping his feet ready for the snap, then other side nigel carr clapping his hands (overcrunk as usual) tryin to get the attention on johnny boy…..it might be intimidating enough to call an instant timeout.
"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley
by jfree on Dec 6, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
N:ow
You are perceptive grasshopper
" Fisher’s approach to building a winner is lifted from Saban’s playbook. Right down to the terminology such as becoming more "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented."
" Nick and I are friends," he said. "That guy is one of the best football coaches I’ve ever been around. God knows he’s brilliant. … A lot of the things he believes are a lot of things I believe. We’re very similar!
The process begins!
Brandon Gainer
He might bounce since we gave em the cold shoulder and pursued 3 RB’s who were never coming here anyway (Lattimore, Bernard, and Clements). Hope we haven’t blown it with that kid though.
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 6, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
One of Coley's Tweets earlier today
“who’s going to RUN this town? WE ARE… WE ARE this is NOLE Nation!!!!” He has a weird way of putting little riddles in his tweets. He emphasized RUN, so I was thinking RB. Gainer is the only SF RB who is uncommitted that Coley and Jimbo have been recruiting. The way Coley has been on a tear recently and with him being in SFL, I’m trying to put 2 & 2 together. FU didn’t offer him. We don’t have a true freshman RB in this class, so I thought maybe Gainer or Neal.
I think he was referring to Port St. Lucie
Seeing as how we are raiding Treasure Coast High
by basbalstr101 on Dec 6, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
What a day!
Gators lose (no perfect season for them yet), Tebow cries, Luc commits, I don’t know if I can take anymore! But really I can, so keep it coming :o)
Glad to see a commitment at such a position of need, this is big time.
Also, I was just remembering when I read that we had hired Coley as TE’s coach. I thought “Who is this guy?” Now, not only do I know who he is, I am SO glad that he’s one of ours. The recruiting that he’s done lately has been flat-out amazing. Keep up the good work James.
OT: Now that the ACC is done, will FSU still play in the Gator Bowl?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
FANTASTIC DAY
to be a football fan. Man, after such a rough year this is exactly what I needed to bring an end to the season.
My cousin was at the SECCG. Huge Gator fan. He handled it better than Tebow. He said that the whole crowd saw Tebow crying (i’m guessing they put it up on the jumbotron…how nice of them!) and every single one of the Bama fans went absolutely nuts. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. Oh man. This was just an amazing day of football. Every team I wanted to win DID. Of course all the wins after the UF game were just icing on the cake. And as someone said…no FSU loss. And then LUC commits?! Just awesome.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
Is Luc an Early Entry for sure???
I know at one time he was supposed to be an EE. It sure would be great to get him in for Spring so he will have a jump on strating next year.
LUC= integrity+athleticism+leadership
I LOVE the fact that Luc wanted his teammates to be seen by recruiters. Charlie, Derrick, Andre, Warrick were all better men off the field than on it. If he brings these really important intangibles to FSU . WOW!!
Any word from Luc himself..?
His thoughts on his commitment, the state of the Noles, Jimbo, etc?
Andy_Staples Twitter
For all the recruitniks, LB Jeff Luc of Port St. Lucie, Fla., committed to #FSU. They’ve been committing in bunches since Bowden’s firing.
People are noticing
It's a beautiful day in Tallahassee
Ranked 25th by rivals
Might be able to sneak into that top 10 after all
plus
we have two DTs that aren’t ranked right now. They factor in as zeros into the rivals numbers. Have no doubts they will be ranked by the time signing day rolls around.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
Projected 2010 Recruiting Class
With Coley recruiting, Haggins going back after some of our guys who looked elsewhere, and Gran coming in, this is my projected 2010 recruiting class:
Christian Jones
Jeff Luc
Lamarcus Joyner
Matt Elam
Terrence Mitchell
Mike Harris
Terrence Brooks
Merrill Noel
Ed Christian
Corey Miller
Brandon Willis
Corey Lemonier
Darious Cummings
Christian Green
De’Joshua Johnson
Chad Abrams
Greg Dent
Jarred Haggins
Holmes Onwukaife
Damien Jacobs
Tank Sessions
Debrale Smiley
Nigel Terrell
Clint Trickett
Cameron Erving
Anthony McCloud
I think Telvin Smith goes to UGA and Barnes either goes elsewhere, or we pull his offer after his commenting on how he wanted Bobby Bowden to leave before he would commit. No I in TEAM Barnes, especially from a player who no one knew about until we recruited him.
Plus after that Big XII game, I REALLY like Carl Pellini. If he can hurt Texas with THOSE players, imaging what he can do with THESE players.
WARRIOR U! GO NOLES!
Sadly, we don't get
Elam or the Byrnes duo. Ed SHOULD come back, but I don’t see it.
Akuna will be in there along with a 4* RB
I don’t know if we take Noel back.
If Elam and Joyner come, then we already have 6 DBs in this class:
Harris
Joyner
Elam
Abrams
Brooks
Dent
Along with the two early commits for next season, I don’t know why we would take 7 this year. If we are going to a 3-4 it makes more sense to take linebackers and DLs.
Everyone on your list is a real possibility with the exception of the Byrnes Duo
I think that chapter is closed.
Ed Christian is 100% Auburn
Forget about him.
by tdchrisdavis on Dec 6, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
so who are the remaining options on the D-Line?
C. Smith
Hubbard (dont see that happening)
Corey Lemonier
??? Jucos
Just going off of his scout ranking
I really don’t think Luc is a 5* either but I’m happy as heck we got him. Ego Ferguson’s also rated highr than he should be by rivals IMHO.
I think JUCOs should be rated (by Rivals) and whatever they conclude, they should take a star off
EVERY time. Look at Boatman. Tonga. Surrency. Pressley. White.
Other than being a little bigger, Dorsey looks a little soft to me just like White.
I think each case is different
You could say the same about HS kids not pannig out. Javon Walker was a 5* who had a high ankle sprain his Jr year but really shined as a senior. Walter Jones came in from day 1 and dominated. Guys like Reggie Nelson and Bryant McKinnie were also first rounders for the ‘Turds and scUM. My biggest gripe with most JUCO’s would be their relutance to RS even when it’s in their benefit. Some of those guys get in late struggle to learn the system and adjust to the speed and talent at this level and before you know it their Jr season is over. If I’m not mistake Miami reshirted McKinnie when he got their and it really seem to help him, in contrast Ole Miss brought Brent Schaffer in late with the HS kids and was expected to learn the offense and lead an SEC team. That didn’t work out to well for him or the team.
I feel like almost all of the time guys are overrated out of juco
Unless both the services and our coaches misevaluated them, which is entirely possible. The services base their rankings partially off of who offers them.
I guess I kind of see where you're coming from
But some of it can also be what you’re perception of overated or bust is. A good example would be someone like Chauncey Davis, he was a 5* in HS didn’t qualify, went to JC and was a 5* coming from JC. He had a solid career here, he collects and NFL paycheck still but I wouldn’t call him a 5* (aka franchise player) Is he a bust or a dissapointment? It’s hard for me to say I guess it just depends on the expectations you had for him.
Then you take a look at a 5* HS kid like Chris Davis or Lorenzo Booker who both were solid 4yrs contributors here and both have collected NFL paychecks but they weren’t super duper stars either. They could also be considered busts or dissapointments depending on a persons defination or interpertation.
I think you can find 5* Hs kids who or useless like Yohance Buchannon or 5* Juco guys like Andy Goodenough who were also crummy. Or you can get 5* guys like Chauncey Stovall (JC) and Jerome Carter (HS) who turn out to be considered more solid players than stars.
To me a Chris Davis or Booker were disappointments. Busts are guys that just don’t contribute. disappointments are guys that just don’t live up to their billing. If you are a solid, multiyear contributor, but no star, and were a “5 star” recruit, you were a disappointment based on your ranking. That’s just how I look at it.
Rouse, Bright, Hardrick, Rose, Phillips, Mizell, Downs, etc, busts. I guess Rouse and Rose had some impact, but very shortlived, and have they even gotten college degrees? I’ve no idea.
yeah I think that's a fair statment
But I kind of look at it like that for HS kids and Juco’s. I think either a capable of “stardom” or “Robert Maydom” and I would rank them on individual merit either way. But with that said I don’t think any one would argue that a program can sustain longterm consistant sucess with a team full of Juco’s. To much turnaround to often and a smaller margin for error being you only got for 2 or 3 years.
I agree you can't sustain an elite program with juco's but because
There aren’t enough god juco’s to go around. I don’t think 2/3 year turnaround is as big a player as the small pool.
yeah it's true that there's aren't as many talented kids in juco
But I would assume that’s because most really good players programs find a way to get them into school. But the one’s that don’t and go to Juco or really develope in JC aren’t any less talented because they went to JC. I’m just saying that if I scout a guy and think he’s a 5* talent he’s a 5* talent regardless as to where he’s from. If Adrian Peterson had rotten grades in HS and was forced to spend 2 years in Juco, he would still be Adrian Peterson 5* talent, it wouldn’t change becasue he went to Juco.
I suppose a person could try and argue level of competion but most kids on JC teams have scholarships to play football on them, most kids in HS teams don’t, so that argument never really made any sense to me. I just don’t think you can assume a player is overated or can’t hold a 5* grade as a prospect because he’s from juco. I think one of the biggest reasons juco’s leave most underwhelmed or feeling like the’re overated is becuase most big time schools like FSU only take a few of them and they are usualy very highly ranked so the expectaitons are for them to be superstars and most players aren’t, HS or Juco, and if you only take 1 or 2 a year the odds are harder that you’ll wind up with a superstar.
Take a class like we signed in ‘00 for example. We signed 5* HS guys Travis Johnson (Star) Bryant McFadden (Very good) Eric Moore (decent, but some what a dissapointment) and Yohance Buchannon (complete scrub) and we took 5* Juco Javon Walker (Star) Now out of 4 HS guys who were considered 5* prospects only 1 I would consider living up to his ranking 2 if you include McFadden, counter that with Walker the only juco we signed considered 5* caliber and he was a star but if he just turned out to be a solid the percepion would be Juco’s not as good as advertised.
In 2001 we took 5* out of HS, Dominic Robinson (solid, but couldn’t even paly CB here) Jerome Carter (Solid) Eric “Lucky” Lungford (Fat and lazy), Chauncey Davis (DNQ), Joe Maurer (DNQ) and Cro Thorpe (Star, until broken leg) and 5* juco Eric Milford (solid, but only played 1 season b/c the NCAA screwed us)
So in 2 years we took 10 5* HS recruits 2 maybe 3 kids lived up to their billing 2 were complete and utter bust by any stretch of the imagination, 1 didn’t come because of Baseball and 1 didn’t intialy qualify (Davis) but later came back as a Juco kid and was a solid palyer for us. Those percentages don’t come across as any more impressive than the Juco’s we signed that were considered 5* caliber IMO. But when you put in all the other juco’s we signed in that same time period that weren’t considered 5* caliber, Eric Powell, Robert May and pitt them against all of the incoming HS kids from those classes the “stars” from the HS classes (Greg Jones, Alex Barron,etc.) look far more impressive. But when you have that many more HS guys we signed the chances that some of them will turn out to be starts is far more likely IMHO.
the shit ton other guys we are offering
it seems plausible… we’ve been going after and getting some people who were a stretch several months ago; Barnes may have not been a first choice target and his commitment was not treated with care
This is what we have this year coming back
Defensive End
*Dan Hicks – FR
Jamar Jackson – RS SO
*Brandon Jenkins – FR
Jonathan Johnson – RS SO
Greg Peirre – JR
*Toshmon Stevens – RS FR
*Markus White – JR
Barry Wright – JR
Craig Yarborough – RS SO
Defensive Tackle
*Everett Dawkins – RS FR
*Demonte McAllister – FR
*Moses McCray – SO
*Jacobbi McDaniel – FR
Joshua Rodriguez – RS SO
Richard Wint – RS JR
*Means I could see them competing next year for a job (the Dan Hicks thing is just a hunch)
Anyway, we have 8 guys or more here who have seen the field, could compete for playing time and are NOT upperclassmen (less Marcus White)
And this is what we are expecting:
Expected DE
Darious Cummings
Expected DT
Cameron Erving
Damien Jacobs
Amp McCloud
^Dias
This gives us 13 viable options on the line. If we can add 1 or 2 from your list, I believe that gives us 15 or so viable options.
Now, if you haven’t noticed, we’ve really been picking up the heat on LB’s and DB’s which may signal that we may depend on 3-4 defenses a little more than originally anticipated, where 15 viable options for your DL is more than enough.
Hold on
By “shit ton of other guys” you meant ALL positions, not DE? Ok, because I was talking about DEs, hence why I only listed DEs. I understand you now.
Defensive End
Dan Hicks – RS FR
Jamar Jackson – RS JR
Brandon Jenkins – SO
Toshmon Stevens – RS SO
Markus White – SR
So of those guys who’s big enough to play the 3-4 DE? Of those guys, who looked good this year? If we add Cummings and 1 of Dorsey/Hubbard/etc, are 7 DE really that many? I don’t think so. Not when 2 are still adding weight, 2 have never played and 1 was just overrated imo.
However, I think Dawkins and McAllister should play DE, which would give us 9. That would be why we are bringing in Deas, McCloud, Erving and Jacobs at DT.
In my scenario, these are our returning DTs next year:
Moses McCray – JR
Jacobbi McDaniel – SO
Pretty weak. Maybe we really try to haul in that Mosley juco guy. Maybe we leave McAllister and Dawkins at DT for one more year and leave Cummings at DE to help “transition” into a bigger DL. We will need a few recruiting cycles to truly get there.
I doubt we would run the 3-4 exclusively, though, if we run it.
Nearly the entire line needs overhauling.
We had small guys who couldn’t do crap. Many of them will be cut loose unless they can gain size or dramatically increase their speed—if we can find replacements. If you don’t believe that, then ask yourself why we are looking at taking 3 JUCO DLs, two of which are unrated. Even though our DLs are young and have gotten exp. this year, we have immediate needs on the line.
Without Barnes, in this class we have:
DT – Erving
DT – Jacobs
DT – McCloud
DE – Cummings
Assume we add:
DE – Dorsey
DE – Hubbard
DT – Deas
Then we have 7 guys for DL, three are JUCOs (Deas, Erving, & Dorsey) who are intended to bridge an immediate need and give a little depth to a group currently full of dead weight. That leaves just 4 freshmen for an area of need, and one of them is a “project” (Hubbard). Further, three of the 7 are currently unrated (Erving, McCloud, and Deas).
Hubbard is a bit of a long shot, which would leave us with only six (three true freshmen and no fresh DEs). That’s pretty skimpy. I realize Barnes is listed as a DT, but he could become a DE in a 3-4 as he is about 50 lbs lighter than the other DTs and he has the height you like to put on the ends.
Keep in mind that this line is the one that could play with a linebacking corps of Bradham-Luc-Akuna-Christian Jones or Carr or Mizell if he can make the grades and a secondary of Harris-Joyner-Reid-Elam or Moody. To make a great defense, we will need some players up front. We are unlikely to have a great line by filling it with gap-bridgers and nonames. Thus, if you have a 4* frosh who has committed, you don’t want him leaving to become a Cock. Period. Especially not days before we name the new DC and especially not when some of his teammates are already playing for the noles.
If Deas can’t make the grades and Hubbard goes to ’Bama, we only have 5 DL commits, 2 of which are JUCOs, and only 1 of which is a 3-4 DE and a JUCO at that.
We do have sme good commits, and one guy won’t make or break the DL class. But at this stage of the game, we have uncertainties and can’t really afford to let one of our commits to waiver and possibly leave to become a Cock. We already lost two of our top guys to Tenn. Barnes is a bird in hand that we need to keep. IMO
Erving isn't a JUCO, McCloud is
three are JUCOs (Deas, Erving, & Dorsey)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
The McTrio (McDaniels, McAllister, McCray)
Is going to all be 295+ next year, so don’t get your panties in a bunch about lack of size
Stevens, Hicks, White etc will probably be moved to the speed slot in the 3-4
McCloud and Deas will both be coming in @ 295+
Dawkins, Jenkins and Cummings will end up being versatile ends/speed rushers as I expect them to be between 260-280 within the next 2 years
So again, where did Barnes fit into this scheme? He doesn’t. We are already stacked @ that position; he was never going to be a 300 + hole closer
Again, not to say he isn't going to be a great player
I’m just saying that we may already be full @ that spot and need to focus elsewhere.
I’d love to have him, but as an outsider looking in, it would seem we already have capable bodies there
My 2011 DEs:
McAllister
Dawkins
Stevens
Hicks
Jenkins
Jackson
Cummings
What do people think about Jackson and Stevens? Jackson’s a redshirt sophomore and I don’t think he’s contributed much. Stevens looks like he could add 40 pounds and be a monster, but that might not be until his senior year (currently a sophomore). So that’s either 5- 7.
My 2011 DTs:
McCray
McDaniel
McCloud
Deas
Erving
Jacobs
That’s 6.
What do you want, 8 guys at each spot? Barnes would fit in fine there. Throw in Dorsey and you’re at 7-9 guys for DE. Do 3-4 teams carry less DT? I don’t know. It’d make sense. So maybe take one more DT in this class, but I don’t have any clue other than Mosley who seems like he’s heading to the SEC.
Maybe I’ve just missed it but I still see Barnes as listed committed to FSU on WC.
Seems like an awfully lot to me
5 and 5, 4 and 6? I was thinking 3-4 DE, 4-5 DT for 7-9 total. Or is this your whole oversigning thing?
I don't know if the line needs overhauling, but
I definitely think we need 3-4 DEs and 4-5 DTs in this class. We are severely lacking in depth.
Your posts confuse me
You talk about how we already have like 15 DLs and talk about how we’re taking too many. Then say you want 7-9 more, which is 22-24 guys to play three spots in a 3-4 defense. 20% of the scholly’s for three positions. I’m saying we need a bunch, but it’s not as much as you would think because there are JUCO guys who will simply add depth and fill in for the dead weight on the DL that needs to go. But you also need a good class of freshmen DLs so that we can consistently play matured linemen during the coming years. If we had that many linemen already and the guys were viable, (1) we wouldn’t have been run over so much this year and (2) Jimbo wouldn’t be looking to fill 50-60% of this recruiting class with DLs and LBs, including a good number of JUCOs. How could you not know that the line needs overhauling?
Barry Wright?
He’s almost 30 and hasn’t been on the team since 2005. I remember when he graduated high school in 2002. He went to my parents alma mater- Woodham High School (now closed).
Just going by the roster on the University's website
So if they botched it, fine, but that is apparently what is official
Use the roster on here
The mods are less likely for errors.
My guess Thurs-Friday
I expect there to be a press conference with Jimbo being introduced fully and him naming his OC and DC.
by Legal_Seminole on Dec 6, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
how long do you think it will take WC to remove it?
I posted this in a thread about why Notre Dame wont hire Charlie Strong
yeah right, L_ike yo_U C_could see Notre Dame doing any T_hing O_ther than getting the F_la_S_hy g_U_y.
Clint Trickett And Luc are going to be roomates!
LOL his facebook status said he just learned he would be rooming with kimbo slice! Well at least we know trickett is still coming and maybe luc can put some weight on him!!
New to Tomahawknation
Man im so proud to be apart of the form its like we have our own Nole Nation hopefully we
Stop everyone on the recruiting trail and have a great season im proud of what the program looks like so far its kind of making the think the whole Bobby Bowden issue wasn’t so bad i mean lets be real with our selves it was time for change.. LETS GO NOLE NATION!!!
Nole2theBone
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