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Ft. Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas Defensive Back Lamarcus Joyner commits to the Florida State Seminoles

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Tomahawk Nation's top prospect in the Sunshine State has committed to the 'Noles.  Lamarcus' mentor (genron187) posts here, so congratulate him as well.

Joyner had offers from basically every premier team in the nation.  Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Miami, USC, North Carolina, Ohio State, Tennessee, etc.  Rumors that the St. Louis Rams offered are still unconfirmed.

VITALS:

Hometown: Miami, FL (St Thomas Aquinas)
Weight: 172 lbs.
40-yd dash: 4.34
ESPN Rating: #5 ESPNU150, 87 Grade (5*)
Rivals.com Rating: 5*, 6.1, CB #2 (#14 overall)
Grades:  Not a qualifying concern

Recruitment:

Most people considered Joyner a heavy FSU lean.  His brother got him interested in the 'Noles, so we have that connection.  The facebook status of his mentor recently read "Joyner's mentor's facebook status after the visit: Just had Jimbo Fisher head of FSU in my crib with coach Odell and Cooley. Had a great time. I think I see a tomahawk chop in my future..." Joyner made visits to FSU in April, July, and November (official).  He loved all three.  Joyner took visits to OSU and Notre Dame, while visiting Florida and Miami a couple of times.

For about two weeks now, everybody had expected Joyner to commit.  But the announcement that came via instant messenger, text, and phone calls...  college football fans felt this commitment.  It prompted an internet explosion.  A radio station here in Alabama reported the news.  As for who hit "submit" first, Hear that "Fish" at Noledigest.com broke it by about 2 minutes and some odd seconds on their message board..  No doubt that FSU did everything in it's power to get the word out.  Even spots that don't cover recruiting had it within 5 minutes.  Warchant.com's Chris Nee Caught up with the elusive Lamarcus($ub required).

After not giving many interviews and playing the recruiting game extremely well, Joyner gave the above interview, and also said this to ESPN affiliate Web site NoleInsider.com ($):

"I just believe personally that Florida State is back. It's always been my dream school. Things were going downhill in the program, but guys like Bobby Bowden and Mickey Andrews were the reason that I liked Florida State. I believe in Jimbo Fisher and the things they've got going on. I am a player that can go anywhere and adapt to different situations, but I just felt at home there."

Joyner apparently wanted to tell the Ohio State coaches in person as the Buckeye's head coach Jim Tressel was reportedly visiting Joyner tonight.  That's a classy move by Joyner, and OSU put up one helluva fight.  And yes, this means that he was so convinced that it was FSU that he didn't even care to sleep on his decision.  To commit to your #1 school with your #2 school in your living room with their head coach and four assistants on the same day?  Also, it is nine degrees in Columbus, OH tonight and 83 in Miami.  To deny Ohio State's coaches the chance at their SoFla vacation would be cruel.

Continue reading for more. Video, Scouting Reports, ect.

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Video:

Some senior highlights above

Lamarcus Joyner JR film (#3 Saint Thomas Aquinas) (via genron187)

Wow.  That's all that can be said.

This is from one game in his JR season:

 

More:  SOPHMORE FILM.


Evaluation:

As far as his position goes, Lamarcus plays free safety and wide receiver for STA.  He has played safety most of his high school career.  Lamarcus has been dominating the great competition at STA.  He was the best player on the field during the Byrnes matchup, which featured over 30 DI prospects.  Urban Meyer was seen on the sidelines trying to catch Joyner's attention.

At Florida's Friday Night Lights camp, Joyner was far and away the best corner.  Urban was on him the whole time, giving personal attention.

Report from a Buckeye in attendance:

Lamarcus Joyner--I was expecting to be good...but I was shocked at his skills. Bill Greene posted my text to him from FNL after I watched a few reps...can't post that here because of recruiting forum rules, but I was fired up. The kids hips are like a swivel but the pads never raise. He explodes out of every cut and glides like he is on waterskiis. Played every rep in straight press technique...no cushion at all. He is the most impressive HS DB I've personally witnessed and he the potential to be a great one. His battles with Chris Dunkley were amazing...and the handsprings and full-extension backflips would make Ozzie Smith proud. Bill Greene asked me if 6-star was a proper nickname...I told him 6 is too low.

CaStauch basically summed up our thoughts with this scouting report:

I consider Lamarcus Joyner to be the most complete Defensive Back prospect I've seen since I started following recruiting in 2005 (I know that's not saying much). That's to say, that he as a unique collection of abilities and talents that enable him to either be considered a top shelf Boundary Cornerback, Field Cornerback, Strong or Free Safety.

As an FCB, he has the lateral quickness, hip flexibility, repeatable acceleration (burst and recovery speed), ability to tame a receiver to his hip (make him heel), straight line speed, ball skills to track the greater range of routes an FCB faces, and intuition in reading the play (all backside players, be it a Will or FCB, need a greater natural feel since the play usually isn't dictated in their direction).

As a BCB, he has the physical tenacity needed to press and work within the shorter time frames and spaces (more bodies and congestion), the polished technique in initial engagement and sustained engagement (body placement, hand placement, "training the WR"), and ball skills.

Joyner is extremely extremely fast and will probably be the best kick returner on the team.  His short-area explosivness is unreal. 

It really says something about your skills when you could be an All American at all four secondary positions.  I am unsure where I want Joyner to play.  On one hand, game changers are harder to find at corner.  Potentially at safety, Joyner has enough coverage ability to man up or cover zones, with the hips to turn and run.  He can use his speed and instincts to cut down angles, and pursue against the run with success.  He's a big enough hitter to make it work.  If Joyner plays FS, he is rangy and electric enough to "follow the ball" with ease.  Joyner is an experienced blitzer, having played LB his sophomore year of high school.

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via assets.sbnation.com

I want Joyner to play cornerback at FSU.  However, when he gets here, I want him to start out as a Greg Reid-esque nickelback.  You know, where he can take advantage of his freelancing ability and instincts while he learns the position.  That way FSU can have his insane talent on the field and have him learn at the same time.  FSU could also experiment with a hybrid DB concept.  For example, Joyner could play CB on first and second down, and then switch to a safety sport for third.  However, the time taken crosstraining him might prevent him from learning one position.  It is something to be thought about.

I do think that Joyner can have a Reid-like impact in the return game.  The kid is just dangerous.  Joyner should also get some plays designed for him on offense, for he has special ability with the ball in his hands.  UF is recruiting this kid for their "Harvin" position in their offense, so you know he's good.  His coach at STA, George Smith, compared him to Percy Harvin, and Joyner does have that silly explosiveness. 

Joyner has ridiculously long arms for his size, one reason people think he will grow some more.  His parents are around the 5'10 range.  Is it out of question for him to grow two more inches?  I don't think so but you never know.  It doesn't really matter what his height is, as he has very good instincts.

However, do not worry about Joyner's height.  He is a freak of nature.  He has the armspan of a 6'3'' man, long hands, and long legs.  He is "high cut."

Comparison:  

Current FSU freshman sensation cornerback Greg Reid.  Though Joyner has the coveted fifth gear that Reid does not, the similarities are endless.  Both are close to 5'9.''  Both have tremendous hips and acceleration (Joyner appears to be at a different speed when on the field compared to other players).  Both have outstanding feet and change of direction.  Both have great instincts and a nose for the ball.  Joyner and Reid are good kick and punt returners.  Reid's vision really sets him apart, and Joyner appears to have some of that in him.  Other comparisons to Joyner I have heard include Tennessee DB Eric Berry, former Florida Gators DB Reggie Nelson, and former Ohio State DB Antoine Winfield.

Here are some videos of Reid in high school and at FSU:

At Valdosta Lowndes:

The Ultimate Greg Reid Highlight Tape *FROM LOWNDES TO FLORIDA STATE!!* (via BXSportsCenter)

 

GREG REID HIGHLIGHTS (via fredking042000)

Through a season at FSU:

via (BXSportsCenter)



Now, who will be joining Joyner in this DB class? 

CB: Lamarcus Joyner
CB: Terrence Brooks
CB:  Mike Harris

S:  Chad Abrams
DB: Greg Dent

Great class.  I expect Terrence Mitchell to be in the DB class too. Joyner might need a year before he is "shutdown shutdown", but I still expect him to contribute his first year at FSU.

This is really huge pickup.  Probably one of the best pure atheletes FSU has landed in quite some time.

The TomahawkNation.com recruiting map has been updated to reflect the commitment.

Make sure to check the TomahawkNation.com Recruiting Board to stay current with all the 'Nole's current targets!

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Hell yeah

Joyner is a stud. Things just keep getting better and better on the recruiting front. Welcome to the team Lamarcus.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 9, 2009 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

Wow!!

Huge Get!! Welcome Lamarcus! Love the news on the recruiting front…. Hopefully all the committs we are getting stick until NSD.

by DesiNole on Dec 9, 2009 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

:)
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the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009

by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 9, 2009 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

BOOMSHAKALAKAAAAAAAAA

"He who becomes a beast rids the pain of being man"

by fsudt45 on Dec 9, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

In my best Joker voice:

and

here

we

GO!!!!!!

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 9, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Finally

Wooooooooooooohooooooo. Finally we have the man we want. Welcome LJ and congrats Genron. The future is bright!

by NyNole13 on Dec 9, 2009 11:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

GOOO NOLESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is friggin’ amazing. GET READY FOR THE NOLES, BITCHES!!!

by FloridaState on Dec 9, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

What a way to end the day...amazing

I was just going to check TN one last time for the night and BAM…

by jasonole59 on Dec 9, 2009 11:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Glad I double checked before bed

Someone linked this on WC as well. Countdown to deletion has begun lol. Our momentum in recruiting right now is insane, especially after the season we just had. Any Cane or Gator who isn’t worried is an idiot.

by osceolafan850 on Dec 9, 2009 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

already deleted

im not sure how they expect nobody to to comment on the teaser on the front page.

by tdchrisdavis on Dec 9, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

We just landed our bell cow of this year's class

and you guys are concerned about WC?

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 9, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I never wavered in my belief that Joyner would be in this class

And I’m not concerned about WC, I just think it’s annoying how insecure they are over there.

by pbysh on Dec 9, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

they are insecure because they know Tomahawk Nation is the best FSU site on the web.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 9, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

TN is almost as good a bargain as

spending 100 bucks a year to follow the recruitment of Brian Butler’s clients.

by tdchrisdavis on Dec 9, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? Those scout posters love this site

I frequent all 3 but am only on day 4 of a 30 day banning on WC, so I mostly speak my mind here. :D

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Do a google news search for FSU Football.

 TN almost always comes up in the first page or two. Anyone who can’t find this simply isn’t looking.

by Aussierat on Dec 10, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

So true...

When Greg Dent committed I was looking for other articles on him and the 2nd article listed was the one from Tomahawk Nation.

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by geoffissiffoeg on Dec 10, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Jeff Luc & LJ seem to high character kids

Still any chance of decommitting between now and signing day?

by DesiNole on Dec 9, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

none

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 9, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

doubt it

I think the only 2010 commits to worry about are Barnes, Cummings, Holmes O, T Smith and Terrell.

That list is a bit longer than I though it would be but I would be shocked if we lost more than 1 of those guys.

by tdchrisdavis on Dec 10, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but if we bouce back a bit next year (Like I know we will)

We may not only keep those guys, but steal some other 2011 recruits.

by Randall W. Spetman on Dec 10, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Of the kids you mentioned there, Looks like Holmes O is pretty excited about FSU, saw his msg to Kenny Shaw on FB asking him to committ, as well he is visiting Tally in Jan. I would assume with Odell still on staff, Cummings should come here esp, now he sees who he has got in the back. I feel little nervous about Telvin Smith – Dont want to lose any of the kids you mentioned there, but if we could “afford” then who do you think can we afford to let go. I think Barnes (assuming we get the JUCO kids we are going after).

by DesiNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't worry about Cummings

The other 4 are soft, or, using the words of Corey Miller, “medium” verbals

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

How does this affect Elam?

I hope its not too late for us to sway ELAM! Actually with all the smoke about him switching, the timing of the LJ committ is perfect! What makes me nervous is the 18th Dec deadline for EE signing?
He has previously mentioned about wanting to play with Luc and now with LJ and Reid in the backfield, this should be our best bid!

by DesiNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

It won't affect Elam

His decision will come soon, though

>>---l>

by DKfromVA on Dec 10, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a feeling he sticks with UF

Guess its little too late in the game, hopefully he sees the depth chart at S out at UF and with us.

by DesiNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it helps

But i don’t know how much. It appears Elam is genuinely interested in FSU. I think I saw he’s going to Gainesville this weekend. If he’s still talking FSU after that, I’ll feel good. If he solidifies himself, he’s a gator, and we tried.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Woooo!

Welcome LJ and Genron!

by CSI Nole on Dec 9, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

Woah...

Sorry about that.

Man, I heard a rumor that he could commit as early as today, and I’ve been checking TN every couple of hours, then BAM!!!

by Randall W. Spetman on Dec 9, 2009 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

Score!!!

Great to have you LJ and congrats Genron

This is going to be one hell of a defensive class—

Thank you future noles for giving us alumni hope

We believe in you

Go kick some ass and bring the Hammer!!!

by Trus1te on Dec 9, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

Per ESPN

Joyner told ESPN affiliate Web site Nole Insider.com. “I just believe personally that Florida State is back. It’s always been my dream school. Things were going downhill in the program, but guys like (head coach) Bobby Bowden and (defensive coordinator) Mickey Andrews were the reason that I liked Florida State. I believe in (head coach in-waiting) Jimbo Fisher and the things they’ve got going on. I am a player that can go anywhere and adapt to different situations, but I just felt at home there.”

by osceolafan850 on Dec 9, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

Holla at cha boy!

Chea…welcome to the family.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Dec 10, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

just amazing

Do we all realize what is going on here? Jimbo and Co. are pulling all this off with just half a staff and pulling kids in for the next year(2011) just like powerhouse Texas and USC do!

The FSU Movement is Back Baby

by mauricel on Dec 10, 2009 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

wow

now just 5 more recruits and they could be just okay (not counting Gainer & Shaw) so a total of 7

by Lemus_87 on Dec 10, 2009 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

we will sign upwards of 30-32

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

30 probably

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by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

YES!!!!!

One of my christmas gifts has come early. He seems like such a good kid and this is the type of recruiting that we need to have to get us turned around in a hurry. Jimbo and Cole deserves raises!!

by Dizzim on Dec 10, 2009 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

are these guys going to be ready for season of '10?

tough schedule coming up especially with Oklahoma (@ Norman) & Byu (home)

by Lemus_87 on Dec 10, 2009 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

Luc and Joyner will see immediate time

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I think we'll be starting at the 40 yard line a lot next year

as teams will kick the ball out of bounds rather than kicking it to Joyner and Reid

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Dec 10, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Solid orange, yes.

Solid purple, or any combination of purple, no.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess im biased

my HS team was purple and gold

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

hm i didnt know that

guess you learn something new everday

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by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Traditions

The school’s colors are garnet and gold. The colors of garnet and gold represent a merging of the university’s past. While the school fielded a football team as early, or earlier than 1899, in 1902, 1903 and 1905 the team won football championships wearing purple and gold uniforms. When FSC became Florida State College for Women in 1905, the football team and fraternity system was forced to attend the now all male school in Gainesville, thus marking the beginning of the football program at the University of Florida. The following year, the college student body selected crimson as the official school color. The administration in 1905 took crimson and combined it with the recognizable purple of the championship football teams to achieve the color garnet. When football returned to the school about 42 years later the now famous garnet and gold colors were first used on an FSU uniform in a 14-6 loss to Stetson University on October 18, 1947.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_State_University

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought We didn't choose garnet until the 1940s when men came back to the Univ.

I thought it represented the merger of our old color (purple) with the color we had while it was an all-women school (red).

But then again, who am I to argue with Wikipedia.

I think this may be a typo though, because the story reads that the school chose Crimson in 1905, and later that year the admins changed it to Garnet. Unless the Admins were being total d!cks and letting the students vote on a color only to change it as soon as they picked one.

by Mr. Tito Carlos on Dec 10, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you're right.

That’s what I always believed myself. I didn’t proof read Wikipedia before posting. It was just the easiest link to post. I saw it had links (on the actual site) and figured you could look those up if you wanted further information.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

They got to be ready from the start

Demps Joyner all of them doesn’t matter if they are playing on the opener

by Lemus_87 on Dec 10, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

If C.Jones committs, Dont you think he sees immediate time too?

by DesiNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

absolutely

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Our D is thin

Many guys will see pt. Cummings should at DE and a lot will be on st.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Broward? Amato?

He grew up in Miami, only played his senior season in Ft. Lauderdale. And Amato? I love what he did for us PRE-NC State, and I’ll leave it at that.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly

since his return from NC state he has been horrible, the linebackers have not preformed well and his recruiting has been awful

by Lemus_87 on Dec 10, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Now all we need is Christian Jones

And we have scored a monster trifecta. Luc, Joyner, and Jones.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

I think one of Dorsey, Green, or Shaw is next

and FTR I think we get all three.

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Dorsey is a must get IMHO.

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by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah we don't need Dline help

*rolls eyes

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by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

NoleThruandThru

Do you think Lattimore>Gainer for our offense? Assuming we have even a 1% chance

by DesiNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Lattimore > any other RB in the nation for our offense

But I still believe he’s a Gamecock (I go to grad school at USC)

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

You think LJ plays S or CB?

What is a bigger need for us? I am assuming if we have Mike Harris and Greg Reid then probably LJ can play CB. Which is a difficult transition S to CB or the other way around?

by DesiNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I think safety

Others say corner (SOM definitely says corner, lol)

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to see him at CB personally

but Mike Harris and Greg Reid are your starters next year, and safety is wide open.

To tell you the truth, I’m so happy he committed I don’t care where he is on the field to begin with. I know he’ll be returning kicks (not punts though)

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn't say he was

said we are in no position to turn him away if he wants in.

I know people are down on him but I love the kid’s potential. It’s completely unfair to attribute him to Markus White IMO.

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

If I said that in response to you it was unintentional

I do see similarities in Dorsey and White’s film, and it’s that neither looked like they were very physical. I don’t think that’s unfair. It’s certainly possible Dorsey has a much better career than White.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

When they ban you for 30 days like that, do you still have to pay your monthly fee?

Just curious so that when we here at TN start charging, we will know how the other paysites do it.

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by FrankDNole on Dec 10, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, they still charge. You can read, you just can't talk. LOL

But I don’t pay over there. The cool part? I get a countdown clock until my “reinstatement”. I’ll check it now.

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by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad trick I misread and thought you were responding to me

I do think it’s unfair when I read things like “Dorsey is just another White so we shouldn’t take him”.

IMO you are STUPID not to want a legit 6’8" DE with speed rush skills, even if he is a project, when your DL depth is weak to begin with.

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

not you as in tricknole, you in general terms lol

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Trick

Who are your must gets?

by CSI Nole on Dec 10, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

DE – Cummings, Barnes

DT – Deas, McCloud, Erving, Jacobs

We need DTs. We need to keep who we have. That’s a “must”, imo. I think we should have Dawkins and McAllister at DE, if that helps you understand where my thoughts lie. Clearly I’m not one of the coaches so my opinion matters not.

Would I take Dorsey? Would I take Lemonier? Would I have taken Hubbard or Smith? Would I take that Brandon Mosley kid? YES. Are they must gets? No, not imo.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Scouts.com

they have FSU on high interest

by Lemus_87 on Dec 10, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Scout.com?

They’re not a reliable source, imo.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

its just my opinion

but I think they have been reliable at times, they do a good reporting the stories when they happen

by Lemus_87 on Dec 10, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Guys, really trying to avoid site-wars over here

The bickering and bashing drives folks off and isn’t productive. Plus, we’re trying to focus on FSU and football.

by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

no real war

just stating an opinion … so yea next recruits should be Shaw and Gainer by the end of the week i think

by Lemus_87 on Dec 10, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Gainer will be in this class

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Me neither.

Do you think we need another RB to go along with Smiley? Do you want another RB?

I don’t think we need one and I don’t want one unless it’s Lattimore.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I've said since September that I would be perfectly happy with Smiley as the only RB in this class

But I agree, if Lattimore wants on, he’s a Nole and I am changing my pants.

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this sentiment

I would like to only take Smiley and use our resources somewhere else. We can’t pass on Lattimore, and if he comes we have to take him. I think Gran will make a huge difference in the rb’s we have because I think we have some talented guys who just were not coached right.

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by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want a Bruiser like Greg Jones again

I know we will probably never see another Greg Jones. I honestly think even with Jeff Bowden and Shitty Chris Rix if he stayed healthy when our Defense was still disgusting we could have made a run for a NC game just off of him. The guy would carry a whole defense for 20+ yards with no problem (Just ask Clemson).

Smiley seems to be that Bruiser Type we have not had since Greg left, Lattimore is a big boy too with some speed who could fill out nicely with a good SC program (no Gay). These are the only 2 we need, I like the talent and depth we have at RB already.

by BS37FSU on Dec 10, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Correction we don't need the 2 of them

I would like to have both but just Smiley is enough

by BS37FSU on Dec 10, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It's just well known that their "interest" charts aren't the most up to date

They provide good insight sometimes, but just don’t seem to update the profiles lol. Don’t know why.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Whats up with Christian Jones?

Last I saw was his FB profile pic – he was in the UTenn Locker room with a UT jacket and believe with his dad. As well read, Corey Miller lobbying him hard on FB to join UTenn and call “signals” for them!

by DesiNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

With all the drama at UT

Doubt his dad would even let him consider them now.

by CSI Nole on Dec 10, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I surely hope so man!

I think he is the most important recruit we need to have.

by DesiNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

there was a picture of Cummings in a USCe jersey as his profile pic a few months ago.

And it sounds like it is down to FSU/UF for him with FSU way ahead.

I wouldn’t worry about it. At least he spent time there looking at football stuff and not getting his dick wet like the byrnes guys.

by tdchrisdavis on Dec 10, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

cummings was in tally over the weekend hanging out with clint trickett! Hopefully clint told him about how playing with “Kimbo” will help them!

by DesiNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

It would be very ironic if we managed to lose out on a legacy like Jones just as we’re turning things around, when we were able to land them in the lean years.

by 38Noles on Dec 10, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Awesome!

Holy cow, reading this just made my day. Scratch that, this made my WEEK!

This is great to hear. Huge talent, great competitor. He’s gonna be big time as a Nole, can’t wait to see him on the field! Go Noles!

by seminoleballer on Dec 10, 2009 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

Well, according to ESPN

We now have the #5 and #6 players in the country headed to Tally

by pbysh on Dec 10, 2009 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

Do they now drop ratings for LJ that he committs to FSU and the ACC? Kidding!!

by DesiNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Side Note

Odell was there, as an Odell fan I like this, I think this means he will probably be there when the dust settles. It’s not a hard question to ask the incoming guy, “How do you think you’ll work with Odell?”

by vanillathrilla83 on Dec 10, 2009 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

Great!

Didn’t know that it was conclusive

by vanillathrilla83 on Dec 10, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

Jimbo already sat down with the staff and told them whos staying and whos going.

Trickett, Dawsey, Haggins, and Coley is staying.
Amato, Allen, Stroud, Carter…all gone.

by CPNole on Dec 10, 2009 2:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think anything was wrong with him, per se.

Jimbo just wants a guy who knows the SC program Fisher is familiar with. FSUn says Bama, UF, etc. have much more advanced SC programs than we do. Fisher doesn’t want Stroud to have to learn on the fly?

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems like Stroud was a BB crony who got the job b/c he was a former player

Jimbo don’t play dat! He wants the best coaches, not the good ol’ boy network.

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s the best player in the nation.

by Nolebra Kai on Dec 10, 2009 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

I was hoping I'd see you pop up over here

Welcome aboard man. May your character never be called into question at TN!

Co-conductor of the "Kirby Smart for DC 2010" Train!!!!

by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

welcome, sir.

Could you fire an email at one of the moderators’ listed addresses (bottom of page). Ask them to forward to The K-Man.

by The K-Man on Dec 10, 2009 12:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

moderator/editor/chief/author

Not sure what is says from my phone. Any one of them.

by The K-Man on Dec 10, 2009 12:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Who's got swaggr now!?

A few weeks ago someone on here said the night is darkest just before the dawn. It’s so true. Here we are a couple weeks removed from the beatdown in Gainesville and things couldn’t be better.

by DunnDeal on Dec 10, 2009 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

It was in response to Wildabeast (was asking why he should even watch)
I will be at the game. In the UF alumni section. In my Garnet and Gold. My GF is a Gator and it is her 21st bday.

Those of you who know me know that I am normally levelheaded except for those few hours 12 Saturdays a year in which I act in a completely inappropriate fashion (unless I am in a box).

I have no idea how I am going to handle myself. I do think I have gotten better at only getting pissed when we play below my (in my opinion) realistic expectations.

Wildabeast, you made it this far. You are a true fan. Everyone left is a true fan. Why would you jump ship wjen we are close to turning this thing around. The night is darkest before the dawn. Be able to tell everyone you were there for that night. Prepare yourself and don’t be shocked when we get our doors blown off. If we had those 4 offensive starters, I’d be pissed if we lost by 21+. Without them, you can’t realistically get pissed.

by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm gonna start another Nickname Game thread

And deem FSUncensored “The Prophet”

I woulda gone with “The Chosen One” but Tim would get mad.

by Randall W. Spetman on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm okay with The Prophet...

…just so long as your prediction on national championships doesn’t come to pass. :)

by Drew J Jones on Dec 10, 2009 4:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn't he say "never"?

We win at least 4 more in my lifetime, assuming I live to 80+. I’m in my 20’s.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched on the tv, if it makes you feel better.

I got close ups of those gaturds celebrating and joking around on the sidelines from the 2nd quarter onward and had to listen to Danielson say at halftime “I’m going to start reading my Alabama notes. This team is junior varsity.”

At least I didn’t have to watch the celebration at the end as I turned it off with like 30 seconds left.

Glad you’re still with us.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

HELL YEA!!!

Joyner is the recruit I most wanted us to get in this class! Coley and Jimbo are recruiting their asses off! All we need now is to name a DC.

by fsunole23 on Dec 10, 2009 12:29 AM EST reply actions  

Excellent news.

The commits have been rolling in. This kid looks awesome on the videos.

by pasadenanole22 on Dec 10, 2009 12:30 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks… I read this site every day and finally signed up

by LadyNole1 on Dec 10, 2009 12:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Welcome to TN.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I am in garnet and that is Greg Reid in the middle!

by LadyNole1 on Dec 10, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure she's been terrified back into hiding.

Shoot… I’m one of the instigators and I’M almost terrified into hiding.

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah Club Stroz. I was there yesterday.

I hung out in Tully today.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."

by geoffissiffoeg on Dec 10, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that Spiderman doll

still hanging outside on the 2nd floor of Tullly? If so, that would be awesome.

by Miaminole on Dec 11, 2009 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

WOW!!!!!

GO NOLES! WELCOME LJ…… Now go to work on some other recuits and bring back the FEAR IN THA SPEAR SEMINOLES ON THE RISE!!

by delfi on Dec 10, 2009 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

The Return of the Solid Gold Defense

DE – Everette Dawkins
DT- Darious Cummings
DT- Jacobbi McDaniel
DE- Demonte McCallister
WLB- Nigel Braham
MLB- Jeff Luc
SLB- Vince Williams
CB- Greg Reid
CB- Lamarcus Joyner
S-Nick Moody
S-Gerald Demps

ACC…COLLEGE FOOTBALL

WE’RE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!

Got go all out for Corey Miller, Christian Jones, and Matt Elam now.

Your Welcome [INSERT FSU DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR HERE]

by CCDFSU07 on Dec 10, 2009 12:48 AM EST reply actions  

You are leaving out some guys who'd be quite upset about this

But we will see how it plays out

We definitely have some talent to play with now!

by Trus1te on Dec 10, 2009 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he will need a year

He’s got the size, just not sure it’s “good” size. He has the potential, though.

by basbalstr101 on Dec 10, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's good size, either, especially with a year off and not even a member of the team

Neither is Smiley. They both focused solely on academics this year it seems. Good for them.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad....

Yeah I meant McCray. Realized my mistake after I posted it. But I really think the next DC gets these guys on the field now. Joyner and Reid will beat out Jenije and Allen easy.

by CCDFSU07 on Dec 10, 2009 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

Harris will start at CB

Co-conductor of the "Kirby Smart for DC 2010" Train!!!!

by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

And I share the opinions of others

we would like to see Joyner fill Reid’s role last season- make an impact in the nickel spot. He won’t start right away.

Co-conductor of the "Kirby Smart for DC 2010" Train!!!!

by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I like this idea

Joyner returns a few kicks and gets to see the field some. Harris has one side locked up though and with Reid on the other we should be pretty good and Joyner is not a drop off in talent. Down the line though someone is going to have to sit unless you move Joyner to safety.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree:)

100 percent.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Did the coaches discus his versatility as a db?

Or did they specifically want him at either corner or safety?

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

That's what she said.

We’re going to set a new record for “TWSS” in one thread.

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Philly has put up with our stuff for a long time.

She’s just not usually an active poster until game threads.

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

No you're right.

We must be gender neutral at TomahawkNation.

My apologies to Philly, Lady, and any other female readers that may have been offended.

Consequently, in a show of gender equality I will be using the first ever TomahawkNation “That’s what HE said” at the next available opportunity.

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I love this kid, I love this class, I LOVE this site!!

I literally sit here and read it ALL DAY LONG!
WE ARE GOING TO DOMINATE AGAIN SOON!

by garnetandgold on Dec 10, 2009 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

FSUn

Any word on DC announcement? Next week?

by CSI Nole on Dec 10, 2009 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

If you remember, Mike Harris claimed he was told it would be announced by this weekend. I guess it remains to be seen whether they intend to keep to this schedule.

by sealclubber on Dec 10, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I do but no longer under the impression that he will be announced this week

Wondering if chiefs/editors had heard anything recently (considering the names that have been tossed around lately)

by CSI Nole on Dec 10, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Right

I don’t think anyone can really rule out anyone right now outside of a few crazy ones.

by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Tressel

Corrected the misspelling of our new DC’s last name here first, too!

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

The funny thing about this post to me is

everyone thinks Tressel is a D guy, his background is actually on the O side and he still calls the plays for OSU.

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Dec 10, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

change everyone to most

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Dec 10, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually thought about that while I typed it

but didn’t feel like verifying. Not funny for Ohio State fans.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be awesome

If we just had infinite money and could hire guys like Nick Saban to be our DC?

by FloridaState on Dec 10, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

THAT's PREMIUM CONTENT!!!!

Tressell is denying rumors, but I’ve heard the contract is almost finalized.

by DamonH on Dec 10, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

RishiM apparently debunked this rumor

Although I’m not sure Tressel isn’t enough of a genius to perform admirably at DC

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Why does this comment

lead me to believe Kirby Smart is still in the picture?

Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
ItaliaNole A.K.A. SavvysNole

by ItaliaNole on Dec 10, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

What do you think the recruits are being told?

That FSU has a group of coaches that they are looking at to be the next one? Or do you think they are being told who it is

by Nole93 on Dec 10, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I know whos going to be the new DC and he's not from Bama

Jimbo told me to keep it on the down low though. But it’s a good guy..and he has coached in Florida before and coached some all americans

by genron187 on Dec 10, 2009 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

That sounds like Mark Stoops

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Dec 10, 2009 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

It ain't Stoops...

He’ll be the HC at UNLV or YSU soon

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree about YSU, that's where I thought he was headed

but just going by the description above and Stoops was the first name that popped in my head.

Maybe Ed Orgeron?

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Dec 10, 2009 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

It sure sounds like Stoops.

Maybe it is..because I can’t think of anyone else that coached some all americans in Florida.

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 2:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Ed Orgeron did at Miami

he was their DL coach in the early 90s (Russell Maryland and Warren Sapp, although Sapp may not have been an AA when Ed O. was still there)

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Dec 10, 2009 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

We need a X's and O's guy.

We already have enough great recruiters. Although I did throw Orgeron’s name out as a possibility a couple of months ago.

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Stoops coached DBs in the early 2000s at Miami

I can think of some All Americans

And there are apparently quotes from post-commitment Joyner saying he thought it was the Arizona coach.

I have no idea if Stoops is a great X’s and O’s guy and a good teacher of the game.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

The return of genron!!!

Hey man, how’s it going?

Got to be a pretty exciting time down there right now.

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 7:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Congrats, and THANKS, genron & Lamarcus!

Really classy quote about Bobby and Mickey, while also giving props to Jimbo. Nicely done!
fwiw, I chose FSU over UF way back when, as a neutral party at the time, for the same reasons L. said: It felt more like home, in every way. And that was 24 years ago. I have degrees from 2 other D1 schools as well, and FSU still feels like “home”. You’ll be very happy with this decision.

by FiestaNole on Dec 10, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

They'll both be deep on KR

My gueess is Reid will stay the PR or maybe they’ll trade off. It’s hard to take the best PR in the nation off the field and replace him with a freshman.

by NoleLaw on Dec 10, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

No, no, no

It was for Jimbo. He was the OC and QB coach there 1988 to 1992. ;)

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."

by geoffissiffoeg on Dec 10, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Message to current undergrads

As a proud alum the games I am able to attend are few and far between. That is where myself and the whole Seminole Nation need your help. The minute this man walks onto that field wearing the gorgeous Garnet and Gold you cheer for him and leave no doubt in his mind about his decision. It’s recruiting classes like the one were are putting together now that can turn a program around and as fans we need to do our parts to show these young men what it really is to walk into Doak on gameday.

by FSUSpot on Dec 10, 2009 1:16 AM EST reply actions  

Standing at attention 10 minutes before.

We’re gonna do a “wake the F up series” that should educate the fans a bit who have never been to the Doak while FSU was “FSU”

by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Brilliant idea. I can’t wait.

by 38Noles on Dec 10, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

WOAH!!!

No WAY. That thing was sweet…

Seriously, for the UF and Miami games, dat sumbeeyatch stay litted up da whole damn game

It was awesome.

by DamonH on Dec 10, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

It was pretty 80s looking, but it’s not like the bobblhead race isn’t amateurish too

by 38Noles on Dec 10, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

They could have made the bobblehead race cool by having the black jersey one win for the GT game (the game where we blacked out for change) LOL. but it didn’t win.

by 38Noles on Dec 10, 2009 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

It looks amateurish in pics.

But I can’t believe how drastically different the stadium is today as compared to just 15-20 years ago.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i cant really see looking that good in Doak as it is today

i know they used to have a noise meter thing on the jumbotron, maybe they could bring it back and just have a digital version of the spear?

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

LOUD!!!! stadium!!!

don’t think it would have the same affect on the Jumbo screen.

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Dec 10, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

either way, i think we need something like that again

anything to help get the crowd into the game and making noise would be good

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

you mean the

“Get Doak Rockin” on the big screen doesn’t do it for you?

by jasonole59 on Dec 10, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

lol youre joking right?

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, for the most part

I never saw the spirit spear in person, and really don’t remember much about it….

I think the “get Doak rockin” is probably much more effective at night when the whole stadium is flashing.

by jasonole59 on Dec 10, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

ya, thats a good point

at night it does look pretty cool, im pretty sure you could cause a few seizures with it

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

it was adjusted by a team of people.

A team comprised of nation’s most prestigious audiologist, with the help of a decibalographer and a claptrician.
Don’t hate on that spear, dawg.

by The K-Man on Dec 10, 2009 7:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s a low blow. Every Seminole over 25 longs to have the Spirit Spear back.

by 38Noles on Dec 10, 2009 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I was at most of those games and I never liked it

It alway reminded me of the “applause” sign for talk show audiences. I have to go with the amateurish vote on this one.

by WBisaNOLE on Dec 10, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

We have to get Doak back to being the most feared environment in the land...

I remember being 10 yr old when we upset UF in 1996…my step-dad took me down to rush the field, I got a chunk of the grass and just watched all the craziness. It was that moment that I knew I was going to school at FSU.

That and even at 10 I knew something was special about all the tail running around that place…ohhh undergrad days—where did you go??

by moneyNOLE24 on Dec 10, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Great Idea

My 1st year was fall 02. So all I know is the lost decade :(

by Rock_and_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I was 01 - 05

At least I got an extra fall and finally saw us beat Miami after 6 straight losses

by BS37FSU on Dec 10, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

My four best football memories of my college years:

1. Beating Miami in ’05.
2. Beating Virginia in ’04.
3. Beating Bama in ’07.
4. The Burger King running the length of the field against Maryland in ’05.

One of them isn’t even about the game. One involved two lousy opponents playing a lousy game. The Miami and Virginia games, though, were truly great games.

I have a “worst” list, as well.

1. Losing to Waie 30-0, being soaked in the windy, cold weather.
2. Losing to The Citadel 7-3 with like 2 minutes left in the first half.
3. Blowing the game against Miami in ’07.

I’m sure I’m repressing others.

Best play nominee goes to Willie Reid making a shoestring catch off of a should-be interception and running it in for a TD against Syracuse.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Although we lost to Miami in 04

that was a crazy game in the middle of a flood and I remember being in the middle of a huge brawl before the game at the Village vs a bunch of Miami fans. Also my seats that day were right by where Parish got murdered. As far as best play of my time there would have to say Greg Jones running over Sean Taylor and then looking down at him (while he layed on his back) as he stepped over him or Ernie Sims taking out Soldier Boy (Winslow).

by BS37FSU on Dec 10, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

that Roscoe Parrish hit is my fav big hit of all time

it was magical

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't that '03?

And do you mean Indian Village? I ask because I lived there at the time and don’t remember the brawl. I’m not saying you’re lying, just don’t remember it. But I do remember drinking with the Rooster before the game. Maybe that awesome experience clouded up the memories of the rest of the day’s events for me.

I think ’04 was the game in Miami that was moved from the Hurricane from Monday to Friday.

by Mr. Tito Carlos on Dec 10, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea the indian village.

Brawl ended quickly with 20 UM fans picking a fight with our fraternity that had 150+ on hand. Just remember it because there was 2ft of water on the street and pouring rain and the Village was still packed pre-game. Nothing like FSU vs UM games IMHO a heartbreak too often but the atmosphere is the greatest, and the games seem to always come down to the last play.

by BS37FSU on Dec 10, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

06-09 Seasons

Worst:
Easily Wake my freshman year. Maybe the best loss, too (bye bye Jeffy)

Best:
Out of all my games at Doak, I think this year’s Miami game had the best atmosphere, and the game was another great UM/FSU game.

by basbalstr101 on Dec 10, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

That's some ugly memories right there.

The 4 years I was at FSU we lost 5 games total. Only lost to The Gators once. We did tie them as well. Of course I saw a few Wide Rights. *sigh.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

say we never missed any wide rights/lefts.....

how many title games would we have played in? weve played in 5, you think itd be like 8 or so without those missed FGs?

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we play for 2 more championships when I was at school if we don't miss those.

Got one though while I was there.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Alumni

Agreed. Have friends who have worked their way down to 20yd line, 15 rows up and for MD game I sat (stood) next to a mom who was reading a magazine with her two kids and another mom in front doing a newspaper crossword with her daughter. I just thought, WTF alumni!! It is not like this at UF, where at least half of their fanbase actually knows the freakin fight song!!!!

Needless to say, I was hated by many for being vocal the whole game … “Friedgen is not stupid, he will take that three yard screen all game” …but couldn’t believe the utter disregard by the fans in that section for the actual football game that either the women, their husbands or Tiger Woods payed admission for. I understand we’re a young fanbase compared to many other top level schools, but c’mon.

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 10, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

First things first

You need to get it to where at least the alumni who WANT to stand dont get brow beaten by the rest who dont want to.
I went to two games in the alumni section, and the people would get mad at me when I stood.

by Miaminole on Dec 11, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Just for the record… I am a student and graduating this semester and I have NEVER missed a home game. But sitting in the student section sucks because most of them are just idiots and dont pay attention to the game anyway.

by LadyNole1 on Dec 10, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait....

A lady Nole who reads TN every day, is an FSU student, goes to all the football games, and recognizes that are student fans are morons?

ahem…

Hi, my name is MattDNole. Yeah… I write for TNation. Sometimes people think my stuff is funny. Some people say I’m a pretty big deal. How YOU doin?

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I know it doesn't really matter

But NoleInsider had their interview way before Warchant had theirs.

by pbysh on Dec 10, 2009 1:40 AM EST reply actions  

I used to like him much more

I feel he totes company policy too much now. You’d think he’d distance himself from Dotty, but he seems to be drawing nearer. Oh, well. He is “on it” in regards to basketball news as well as news regarding our olympic sports teams, so I give him props for that, since I enjoy both.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...evidently we got in a conversation about potential DC's and I got warned.

My comment began with “I bet what happened was…”

It was kinda annoying. I don’t even have memberships to any pay sites.

by DamonH on Dec 10, 2009 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I like the boards on WC

Olympic Sports
Academics
Basketball
Baseball (only during baseball season, it’s dead otherwise)

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

really?

I’m always looking for good nole baseball coverage. I haven’t been on TN through a baseball season though. Is it covered like basketball?

by garnetandgold on Dec 10, 2009 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

We do baseball

It isn’t TC’s basketball coverage by any means, but we definitely have a knowledgeable base that follows it

>>---l>

by DKfromVA on Dec 10, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

TN posters brought you the Mike Martin drinking game last baseball season. I await next year.

by 38Noles on Dec 10, 2009 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

It's mainly run by the guys from the "Animals" section at the home games

There are a few personalities there you should steer clear from, but they are very close with the program and have pretty good info and discussions.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Who gives a crap?

TN gets all the good juice before it happens and usu. way before anyone else. I think they read TN to get their stories.

by NoleLaw on Dec 10, 2009 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha Ha!!!

Editors from the other sites would say it’s the other way around, hence all the “you can’t say that here” stuff we get from time to time…

I don’t buy into it, I’m just saying. It’s out there. IMO TN is far and away the most fun.

by DamonH on Dec 10, 2009 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

And we are bringing more..#1 recruitng class this year..
My new Motto…Love Joyner, hate Noles…
It’s a U thang, a nole wouldn’t understand

by genron187 on Dec 10, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

congats genron

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Always have and always will

Hey shoots out and props, and money lol needs to be given to mattnole. Like I said a while back. Noles fans need to thank that guy big time. MattNole you my BOY BLUE

by genron187 on Dec 10, 2009 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

MattDNole is the truth

365 days, until I change my ways.

by SWFLNole. on Dec 10, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

hahahaha

Nice movie reference.

We’re gonna get you up here for a FSU-Miami game and you might just be wearing the Garnet and Gold before it’s over man.

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

You're right I don't understand.

I don’t hate the Canes, just love the noles.
Turds I hate, but that’s because I know so many and none of them are quality human beings. As a lawyer, I have to deal with Turds daily. They’re just a very low class of people who lack any sense of ethics.

by NoleLaw on Dec 10, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Meh. There's some good & some bad just like with every school

But “Gaytor Nation” definitely is elitist, which is annoying as hell. There’s one firm in Tampa that’s all Gators. I sent my resume in just to piss them off…

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not talking about being elitist. There's nothing elite about them.

I don’t want to get into all of that on a football site and I don’t want to taint this joyous celebration with the stench of the Turds. What I’m talking about isn’t limited to lawyers and anyone who has met a Turd, FSUn’s girlfriend excluded, knows what I am talking about. My first job out of law school was with a downtown firm composed of all GaTurds. They made me an offer I couldn’t refuse.

I’m just glad to welcome LJ to the Nole family.

by NoleLaw on Dec 10, 2009 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

oh yea?

well I work at Levin, Papantonio…as in the University of Florida’s Fredric G. Levin College of Law.

You can imagine all of the UF Lawyers there. Buuuuut we have quite a few noles as well.

by NolenRyan on Dec 10, 2009 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Pensacola represent!!

Ask Fred how his boy Roy is doing after the beat down.

On second thought, no… keep your job.

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 7:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha

Roy. Hahaha. He just keeps getting KTFO.

by CPNole on Dec 10, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Riding ATVs till the early Am

before the night of the fight will do that to you. Not sure if he did it again for this fight, but his training habits have gone way down hill.

by osceolafan850 on Dec 10, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

I mean I live in Bama and I am always cold.

Tonight in Columbus… it was too cold to snow… (the snow was frozen in the clouds!)

by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually

Man OSU coaches are still texting me at 2 in the morning. They are shocked…but why. Ohio or Florida…thats an easy choice for me. but then again it wasnt my choice

by genron187 on Dec 10, 2009 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Tressel is drinking in his room right now.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

too damn many

LJ got 40 texts in 10 mins when that article came out FSU being eliminated

by genron187 on Dec 10, 2009 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

And most probably weren't schools, but "journalists"?

As fun as it seems, I think I’d get pissed off quite a bit by it all

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

lol...lil Frank

im making a quick FSU tribute with Frank’s highlights of this yr right now…

by genron187 on Dec 10, 2009 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

C. Jones, Lattimore maybe, and you know the rest.

Combine that with Eddie Gran list of guys…oh uh to the ACC

by genron187 on Dec 10, 2009 2:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Lattimore? Really?

Gran’s list of guys…
Gainer?
Elam?

by NoleLaw on Dec 10, 2009 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Elam, well let's just say it's closer than you think.

Jimbo has a card in the corner with Elam brother

by genron187 on Dec 10, 2009 2:28 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What up

I’m a where there’’s smoke there’ fire kinda guy. Elam’s been mentioning FSU quite freqently lately, so I have to assume there’s something to it. UF is at the cusp of offering a Safety out here, Tony Jefferson of Eastlake High. Heard if UF wants Tony he’s their. The caveat is Elam doesn’t want them to recruit any more Safetys. So if UF hedge their bets with Jefferson, Elam may jump ship. His comments seem like he’s prepping to do just that

by westcoastnolefan on Dec 10, 2009 2:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it is something more than that

That is not a card Jimbo can hold. I think Genron was talking about a play we can make; not something we have to wait for UF to screw up.

by NoleLaw on Dec 10, 2009 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

No doubt

That it’s something we can do help influence his decision (Like putting him in a secondary with three other NFL prospects for one!). I wasn’t referring to what Genron said really. Maybe Abram wants his brother to at least consider FSU, just like Clements family was adamant about UM. There’s always more than one thing that can help sway a decision.

by westcoastnolefan on Dec 10, 2009 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Tony will announce on the 18th of this month

I’ve heard him, WR Kenny Stills and DE Ronald Powell all want to go to the same college together. I hope the ‘Turds don’t get all 3 of them, that would suck.

by nappygoat on Dec 10, 2009 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

They must have all hooked at USC Rising Stars camp

Tony and Kenny’s squads were supposed to meet friday in CIF Championship but Stills squad got upset. Anyway, Tony’s been real coy, and in the meantime making sure a lot of schools names are in thrown around. Two weeks ago everybody thought he was going to Michigan.If they DO end up at the same place. My guess would be USC or UFAG though.

by westcoastnolefan on Dec 10, 2009 3:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Will do

I hate snobby LA, but I do try to keep up with their talent

by westcoastnolefan on Dec 10, 2009 3:35 AM EST up reply actions  

What about Oklahoma?

They’re in pretty strong with a couple of those guys aren’t they?

by nappygoat on Dec 10, 2009 3:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Oklahoma

is yet another option for Jefferson. Stills has had an offer on the table from them for the longest. A running back from here (SD) Brennan Clay commited to OU over the summer. Clay used that same USC camp to get noticed and had offers roll in (even from Georgia). You would’ve thought he’d have gotten noticed playin HS ball with Tate Forcier?

by westcoastnolefan on Dec 10, 2009 3:50 AM EST up reply actions  

And let me say

I am more proud of Brennan than any kid from out here. That kid grew in a gang infested enviroment that has swallowed many young athletes who could’ve done great things (Akili Smith, Rashaan Salaam, and Lincoln Kennedy are from that hood as well). But Clay kept his head on straight, kept his head in the books, and with the guidance of his uncle wrote his ticket of there

by westcoastnolefan on Dec 10, 2009 3:58 AM EST up reply actions  

A card to play with Elam?

Jeez, I think I may pass out having both Lamarcus and Matt.

by Drew J Jones on Dec 10, 2009 4:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for coming by and offering your CGs

classy move, a lot of people wouldn’t have done so.

Oh yeah, in the Under Armour game, do your best to get LJ the showcase he deserves. Yeah, telling you stuff you already know, yep I’m cool like that. :)

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Dec 10, 2009 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

^_^

2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Thanks for the memories, Bobby Bowden

by JMB on Dec 10, 2009 2:04 AM EST reply actions  

Holmes Onwukaife

He lives just outside of Austin

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

El Martillo was here in TX?

I thought I felt the Earth tremble yesterday …

by ScalpEM_TX on Dec 10, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup. Coley was in Austin. On his way to Connecticut today.

"The other day I... uh, no, that wasn't me." - Steven Wright

by O-Town Nole on Dec 10, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

This is a very nice grab.

We definitely need his talent and abilities. This week has been just excellent for FSU fans.

**Plus as an added bonus for us FSU fans, former FSU kicker/punter Gram Gano finally made his way into the NFL. Washington Redskins signed him on this week. Gano also kicked the game winning FG for Los Vegas in their league championship.

by CPNole on Dec 10, 2009 2:37 AM EST reply actions  

Time for me to hit the bed

between the Jenn Sterger references, DC mentions, the Gator Bowl seating chart,Under-Armour rosters and Coley in Houston it’s time to head off. Thanks for stopping by genron187 and welcome once again to the team lamarcus.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 2:44 AM EST reply actions  

Probably worthy of its own topic...

but I didnt feel like it. But just ran across this on ESPN while browsing through the recruitment..etc..etc.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426

Apparently politicians are getting tired of the BCS bs! They want all levels of CFB to run the play-off system. Which is should anyway.

by CPNole on Dec 10, 2009 3:14 AM EST reply actions  

As a fan, I prefer the bowl system

If you want playoffs watch the NFL or FCS

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

go back to your NCAA board meeting. LOL

we need playoffs in bowls settings. It would sell way more ticketts down the line.

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Dec 10, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Now those are words I like reading:

“I just believe personally that Florida State is back.” Welcome aboard, Lamarcus!

by Drew J Jones on Dec 10, 2009 3:52 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

So is there a chance we red shirt him

If not are who might red shirt out of this class if any.

Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

by Desman on Dec 10, 2009 5:19 AM EST reply actions  

It's a shame

That we couldn’t bag other great prospects from STA. Cody Riggs, Giovanni Bernard…

"What's yo' glutes?"
- LaMarcus Joyner, to a pilates instructor at STA summer conditioning

by STAquinasNole on Dec 10, 2009 6:16 AM EST reply actions  

this news is so fantastic.

that guy is a baller, if there ever was one.

by Mr. Seminole on Dec 10, 2009 7:09 AM EST reply actions  

Coley is headed to Connecticut...

CoachColey: Headed to connecticut – Oh yea “FEAR THE SPEAR”
5 minutes ago from mobile web

Bjoern Werner?

by soliman on Dec 10, 2009 7:13 AM EST reply actions  

I'm guessing for TE Will Tye

would love to see us get LB Khari Fortt, but seems very unlikely.

"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi

by RishiM on Dec 10, 2009 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll be stunned if Tye qualifies

Co-conductor of the "Kirby Smart for DC 2010" Train!!!!

by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Tye and Werner

they are at the same school too. Two birds with one stone, such a coley move.

by fsudude on Dec 10, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure...

…but I’d be willing to bet we’ve never had a Bjoern…

by soliman on Dec 10, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i like to think that the Nigels were monocles under their helmets and have collapsible tophats

being that they are distinguished gentlemen…..the 3 nigles should be called
“The Three Gentlemen”

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

idk to me the name Nigel just sounds like a Duke or Lord or something

and becuase of their highclass they tend to wear a monocle

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

and what are the odds of getting THREE killer football players named Nigel?

its a sign of greatness from the football gods

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

what are some other duplicate names?

i know theres two Robinsons

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Reid/Reed
Nigel
Mc
Robinson
Christian (if we land Green, Jones)
Greg
Terrence/Terrance
Lamarcus
Smith

Probably a few more. Some of those pairs are assuming we keep all of our current commits, for 2010 AND 2011.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Christian

Also if Ed switches back (although not likely)

by fsugrad06 on Dec 10, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

great news!

can’t wait to see him play Manatee Friday night!

by t1993 on Dec 10, 2009 7:16 AM EST reply actions  

The Ohio State U???

I’d take what was said bout OSU being in his living room last night with a grain of salt.

Its for a fact that I saw Jim Tressel and his brother Dick Tressel in Fort Wayne, IN. He was at Harding high school (Fort Wayne, IN) recruiting Rod Smith — BIG TIME RB.

I know this because, I SAW HIM with my OWN TWO EYES and shook his hand. I coach at Harding and happened to be in the weight room when the Tressel’s came into the weight room. This was about 6:00 PM when I saw them. So unless they have the OSU concord jet airplane, it would be hard for Tressel to get back down to miami in less then 6 hours.

Its great to hear that Joyner is a NOLE!

Northern NOLE

by LandoFSUNole on Dec 10, 2009 7:43 AM EST reply actions  

Was her name Weber, by any chance?

"The other day I... uh, no, that wasn't me." - Steven Wright

by O-Town Nole on Dec 10, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope.

Her last name was Large. And she wasn’t— a size 5 pom-pom girl.

by FiestaNole on Dec 10, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Check your misspelling on the subject line of the post I responded to and...Bah, nevemind.

The moment’s gone.

"The other day I... uh, no, that wasn't me." - Steven Wright

by O-Town Nole on Dec 10, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, I see it.

Well, she was defintiely smokin’.

And all natural. Almost married her, thankfully didn’t; typical hot girl-crazy girl thing.

by FiestaNole on Dec 10, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

YES...

Northside is a school here in Fort Wayne

Northern NOLE

by LandoFSUNole on Dec 10, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Big smile

I can’t believe what is being done at less than full staff.
I like. I like A LOT.

Stay classy, Tallahassee!

by EConquered on Dec 10, 2009 8:36 AM EST reply actions  

DC

First post for me – finally joined TN this morning and glad to be a part of it.

So with the defensive talent coming in do we have a DC candidate locked and just waiting to announce after bowl season???

I guess Jimbo can lock em down regardless.

by Desert Renegade on Dec 10, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

I'm not sure what to believe anymore.

You can look at it two ways:

A) We have our guy all but signed, have told recruits, and it must be someone fairly impressive to convince Luc and Joyner that this is truly the place for them.

2) We don’t have our guy signed, and Fisher and Coley are so dadgum good it doesn’t matter to recruits, they still want to be a part of this.

Either way, I think it bodes well for our future prospects.

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Sweet Mother Jesus

Hell with that talent they don’t need a coach.

by Noleit on Dec 10, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Because

they both sucked big ones.

Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
ItaliaNole A.K.A. SavvysNole

by ItaliaNole on Dec 10, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Because they were taking up space

We need the extra space for all this talent thats on the way.

by Noleit on Dec 10, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Joking, right?

I assume you are but I’ll answer anyways. Chuck and Jody didn’t bring in talent (no offense to current and past players, I cheer for all Noles alike to succeed in life, even if some aren’t the best football players), so when they got on campus, they NEEDED to be coached up and those two either didn’t have it anymore (Chuck) or never had it (Jody).

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I am completely joking.

There were times last year that I felt like running from the stands at Amato to tell him what I thought…he would have just chest-bumped me aside.

by basbalstr101 on Dec 10, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt..

I think #2 is more likely. I just can’t see Fisher and co preventing “leaks” from happeneing no matter how secretive they are. But if so, it would add to the “Fisher mystique”…

by Polk Nole on Dec 10, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed,

but when you get Harris, Luc, Joyner in the same week you can’t help but think that somebody knows something. (Not to mention the 4 2011 commits)

by jasonole59 on Dec 10, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Genron claims to know who. If that's true then we have one.

Best rumor I’ve heard is announcement coming this weekend.

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Dec 10, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Joyner mentions "Arizona coach" in an interview

He also says something like “or a couple other guys”.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's in the WC premium article

My buddy gave me a run down. If I’m passing around falsities, I apologize.

Genron, last night, said the guy coached in Florida before and coached some All Americans. Stoops coached at Miami frmo ‘01-’03. Reed, Taylor and Rolle?

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Rankings

Although the class rankings are not a precise science the hype that it gives is good press. It will lead to both ESPNU and Rivals saying FSU is moving into the right direction and top HS recruits will be watching because those sites will be the first to follow them heavily.

by osceolafan850 on Dec 10, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Congrats LJ and genron and Welcome officially!

this is going to be a tricked out defense in a couple of years!!! Bradham, McDaniel, Reid, Joyner, Luc…..could continue to get seriously scary and seriously get some guys to the league.

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Dec 10, 2009 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Wow....

I heard about Joyner and now that I’ve seen footage of him I’d like to see what he can do alongside Reid and others coming in…looks like our d backs are going to be real good again. Hopefully our next d-coordinator can come in and get the boys fired up, etc…

by Ldogg62677 on Dec 10, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Great Get

I was lucky enough to catch the whole STA/Byrnes game that was played on ESPN. What a game. I admit I am not exactly a great evaluator of talent. But it doesn’t take an NFL scout to figure out that Joyner is a special player. After the game was over I thought to myself, “No way FSU is lucky enough to get this kid.” So glad to be wrong. Welcome to Tallahassee. Enjoy your stay.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Dec 10, 2009 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

damn

this is a long thread….SEMINOLES ARE COMING BACK!!!!

by fsudude on Dec 10, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

what recruits are we looking at in connecticut ?

recent tweet from Coach Coley: Headed to connecticut – Oh yea “FEAR THE SPEAR”

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

will tye

i think…..i hear his grades are a ? but looks solid as a TE. If we miss on mosley he should be a good get.

by fsudude on Dec 10, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

that's a bit surprising on the grades

Seeing as how he attends a New England prep school. Salisbury did have a rep as being a jock school though.

by bigdukesix on Dec 10, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

TE is the one posistion on offense that needs a lil boost

Caz was great but is gone. Jabaris Little has been another lincoln flop. Reliford is okay but is still learning the position. We need 2 TE’s in this class. Tye seems like he could fit the Hback role Jimbo has been looking for maybe…

by fsudude on Dec 10, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Something is brewing in Tally

Wow with the addition of Joyner and Luc this is shaping up to be a monster D class. I wonder if the boys are being told who the DC is going to be. I would like to see Joyner as a man up cover corner, and see him and his speed used on some blitzes. FEAR THE SPEAR. KEEP IT 3RD AND MANAGEABLE

by 3rdandManageable(VicVanBuren) on Dec 10, 2009 11:54 AM EST reply actions  

Genron is Joyner's mentor and further up in the comment section

he says that Jimbo has told him who the DC is and that “he’s not from Bama.” We also shouldn’t be worried because he has coached in FL before and coached up some All-Americans.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."

by geoffissiffoeg on Dec 10, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

sounds like Stoops

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Stoops

Has been at Iowa, Kansas State, Oklahoma and Arizona. So if he has really coached in FL then no Stoops.

Also eliminates Bud Foster.

by Volstud on Dec 10, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of anything named Stoops

But I will have faith in Jimbo on this one.

by 38Noles on Dec 10, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Can someone hand me a bucket?

I need a container for all of this saliva.

I feel like Homer Simpson when he sees a donut.

by RenegadeNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

I has a bukkit...

oh noez… dey be steelin mah bukkit!!!

This post brought to you by lolcats and icanhascheezburger.com

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah Yeaaaya!!!!!

Bouyacacha!!! Scalp em seminole!

by LatiNOLE on Dec 10, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions  

Elam

Any more news on Matt Elam possibly switching to FSU?

by Drew J Jones on Dec 10, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

On the VolNation boards...

Someone posted that he filled out the EE paperwork for only three teams.. UF, FSU, and WVU.

by noles 4 life u dig? on Dec 10, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

WVU? What in dee heeeell?

With all that is going on right now, you have to like our chances with Elam.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

it was posted on tharinger.com

that WVU was thought to be the only school that could pull him from UF…a couple of weeks back.

by jasonole59 on Dec 10, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

And about 2 days ago Elam was quoted as saying only FSU.

I didn’t think we had a shot at Elam until 3 or 4 days ago so I literally paid him no attention.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I know I've been talking about him for over a week.

I don’t understand why he would want to go play for the Turds when they already have commits from Dowling & Dorsey unless someone is going to play O.

by NoleLaw on Dec 10, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Stoops

are we supposed to be happy on him if he’s the DC?

Seems like the bama guys and foster were the top 3 options of TN readers. So if we get stoops, he’s the 4th best dc and we shouldn’t be too happy on this? I don’t know much about stoops. So i’ll need an education on the subject :)

by Cee on Dec 10, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

I won't be happy with us hiring Smart

if he doesn’t do a good job with our D.

I will be very happy with any coach if he does a good job with our D.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I know nothing about his coaching style/scheme/etc.

He coached guys like Rolle, Reed and Taylor at Miami as DB coach from 2001-2003

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think TN readers where aware that he was even a possibility...

He has the top 20 Total Defense and top 20 3rd down efficiency defense which are the two most telling stats.

He would be coaching at least as good of talent here immediately with better coming very quickly.

And the Stoops all recruit well. Ohio Highschool pedigree…they usually have very solid x and o’s

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Dec 10, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

This was posted on another thread that got deleted but made me verry optmistic if we hire him.

From Miami’s Official Athletic Website

Coached the 2002 Miami secondary that led the nation in pass defense and pass efficiency defense despite having to replace its top five players from the previous season.
 Coached the 2001 Miami secondary that helped UM lead the nation in scoring defense, pass efficiency defense and turnover margin, intercepting a school-record 27 passes on the way to the National Championship.
 Led a 2001 UM secondary that produced three first round NFL Draft picks and four draftees overall (Phillip Buchanon, James Lewis, Edward Reed, and Mike Rumph.
 1998 Wyoming secondary helped Cowboys rank 28th in scoring defense.
 Coached 1997 consensus All-America free safety Brian Lee at UW
 1997 UW secondary ranked 6th in passing defense, allowing 95.0 yards per game and intercepting school-record 24 passes.
A member of one of college football’s most well known coaching families, Mark Stoops is in his third season as defensive backs coach at Miami. Stoops’s two seasons at UM have produced arguably the finest secondaries in the school’s proud history.
His 2002 unit featured four new starters and replaced the top five players from the previous season, yet set a phenomenal standard by leading the NCAA in passing defense (119.69 ypg) and pass efficiency defense (83.91 rating), while tying an NCAA record for fewest yards allowed per pass completion (9.5 ypc, matching the mark set by Notre Dame in 1993).
Stoops’s 2001 UM secondary will rank among the best in recent college football history as the Hurricanes defensive backs formed the backbone of a defense that led the nation in scoring defense, pass efficiency defense and turnover margin on the way to the National Championship.
Stoops’s 2001 unit was blessed with talent as three members of the group were selected in the first round of the 2002 NFL Draft in April, but the unit showed drastic improvement over the 2000 season with Stoops playing a large role. Hired by head coach Larry Coker in February 2001, Stoops’s secondary made major improvements in almost every category over the previous season. But that improvement has been a hallmark of his coaching career to this point.
The 2001 Miami defensive backs helped the defense notch a school-record 27 interceptions on a unit that made 45 takeaways on the season. The Hurricanes dropped their average passing yards per game yield from 220.6 in 2000 to 138.8 in 2001 (an improvement of 81.8 yards per game), improved an excellent pass efficiency rating in 2000 of 95.87 to a national-best 75.60 in 2001, and improved their interceptions total from a whopping 23 to the record-setting 27 in 2001. Miami defensive backs returned five of those interceptions for touchdowns last season.
Stoops came to Miami in 2001 from the University of Houston, where he was the co-defensive coordinator and safeties coach under head coach Dana Dimel. Before working with the Cougars, Stoops coached under Dimel at the University of Wyoming where his 1997 secondary was the school’s best ever. That Cowboys defense ranked sixth nationally in pass defense and intercepted a school-record 24 passes. That 1997 unit ranked sixth in the nation in pass defense (95.0 ypg) after ranking 98th in the nation (300.9 ypg) in 1996, an improvement of 205 yards per game through the air.
Prior to his stint at Wyoming, Stoops coached at the University of South Florida in 1996 after four years as athletic director and defensive backs coach at Nordonia Hills High School in Macedonia, Ohio. Stoops began his coaching career at his alma mater, the University of Iowa, where he served as a graduate assistant from 1989-91.
As a coach, Stoops has coached two consensus All-Americans in Miami safety Edward Reed (2001) and Wyoming free safety Brian Lee (1997). Also, Miami cornerback Phillip Buchanon was named a First-Team All-American by at least one service in 2001. Stoops has worked closely with five players who have went on to become NFL draft choices: Reed (2002), Buchanon (2002), Miami’s James Lewis (2002), UM’s Mike Rumph (2002), Lee (1998) at Wyoming. He also worked with a pair of prominent NFL free agent signees in Wyoming’s Trent Gamble (played 2000-2001 with the Miami Dolphins) and Markese Fitzgerald of UM, who signed with Tampa Bay in 2002.
As a player at the University of Iowa, he was a three-year letterman (1986-1988) at strong safety. He finished his career with almost 100 tackles and two interceptions and attended four bowls with the Hawkeyes, the 1988 Peach Bowl, 1987 Holiday Bowl, 1986 Holiday Bowl, and 1986 Rose Bowl.
Stoops is the brother of University of Oklahoma head coach Bob Stoops, Mike Stoops (OU’s associate head coach/co-defensive coordinator and secondary coach), and Ron Stoops, Jr. (defensive coordinator at Cardinal Mooney High School in Youngstown, Ohio). Stoops’s father, Ron, was a coaching legend in his own right as defensive coordinator for 28 years at Cardinal Mooney High School in Youngstown, Ohio.
The 36-year-old Stoops married Chantel Saner in July 2002. )

by BS37FSU on Dec 10, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I posted that as a comment in the deleted "Tubberville" fanpost

I’m telling you guys, read between the line$. $toop$ will get paid more at FSU than YSU. If Jimbo wants him, he’ll get him. Stoops interviewed on Sunday. As of Monday, Sunseri claimed he had not been contacted by FSU. Smart stated as late as yesterday that he doesn’t have any interest in leaving Bama.

I think Jimbo is hesitant to grab someone from Saban’s nest for a couple reasons. So, I would be surprised if it’s Smart or Sunseri. I also think the new DC will have some flexibility in who he brings in under him.

Jimbo claimed an announcement a DC announcement this week. Who does that leave (Smart would likely wait until after the NC)? Unless there’s a wild card out there we don’t know about, my best guess is Stoops. I think that would be a great hire on Jimbo’s part.

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I must admit, I'm not really feeling Stoops.

But if he is Jimbo’s guy, I’m betting he’ll bring something that he wasn’t able to implement at Arizona.

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Look up at my huge post above this

Coached the 2002 Miami secondary that led the nation in pass defense and pass efficiency defense despite having to replace its top five players from the previous season.
 Coached the 2001 Miami secondary that helped UM lead the nation in scoring defense, pass efficiency defense and turnover margin, intercepting a school-record 27 passes on the way to the National Championship.

by BS37FSU on Dec 10, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea and this year led the AZ defense to top 20 in the country

Playing with no 1st team PAC 10 players in a conference full of offensive stars and high powered offenses. If Jimbo does hire him I think he has the credentials to back it up

by BS37FSU on Dec 10, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank YOU

they play in an Offense laiden league and are still top 20

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Dec 10, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure I hear you

to me he seems more accomplishment than Sunseri and is not 50something.

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Dec 10, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

On same boat as you

I wasn’t feeling Sunseri, if we don’t get Smart or Foster then Stoops would make me feel better then Sunseri. Whoever Jimbo hires will be great though, he has shown nothing to the contrary so far.

by BS37FSU on Dec 10, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a proven coach

He’s had success at Miami, Wyoming, and now Arizona. He often has success with underclassmen DBs. A good profile of his accomplishments is here: http://www.arizonawildcats.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/stoops_mark00.html

That said, I don’t know if I am feeling him eiether. Probably just because he is a new name. I think Sunseri would’ve been my No. 1 choice. Smart, Foster, and Stoops would all be looking for a HC coaching job in a couple years. With Sunseri, DC would be a step up and he is old enough that he might be content to stay DC for 10-15 yrs. I also liked that he fixed the Bama pass rush when Smart & Saban couldn’t.

by NoleLaw on Dec 10, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It's (slightly) possible that we could get Sunseri after Stoops is named DC

If Stoops wants him and Sunseri wants out from under working for Saban. We could give him a $$ bump by giving him some executive head of coaching and administration title.

I wasn’t sold on Sunseri as a coordinator.

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude I'm not against Stoops.

Going back and looking at some of the Arizona defenseive numbers over the years just don’t excite me. That’s all!

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

'Preciate it.

Not bad, imo.

Can you give me a rundown of his entire tenure, including a year or two prior to his arrival?

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll say this much

When The Stoops boys went to Arizona, the first thing that ran through my mind was,damn Desert Swarm part 2. That hasn’t quite happened!

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

If we're going 50% coaching and 50% recruiting

what are they’re recruiting rankings in those years vs. ours?

Also concider ours should improve to stay in top 5 or 10 easily if we win at all.

I’ll do this math and get back.

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Dec 10, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Numbers are

Arizona recruiting was
#21-2005
18-06
44-07
39-08

FSU’s was
12
3
21
9
respectively with another #8 last year for him to coach.

I’m no math freek but I thinks its safe to say we wont hit the 21 rank again since it cames on the heels of a the Jr fired.

Looks something like 14th, 21st, 11th but with a 21st ranked D this season imagine the possibilities

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Dec 10, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

My first choice isn't stoops either and i am not arguing with you

 I was just pointing out some numbers I thought were impressive to back my point that if Jimbo thinks he is the right guy then I have no right to refute his choice. arguing

by BS37FSU on Dec 10, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

"I think Jimbo is hesitant to grab someone from Saban’s nest for a couple reasons"

why do you feel this way?

I don’t think Saban would have a problem with his guys getting promotions…It means he’s done his job as a boss. I believe he has said as much.

by jasonole59 on Dec 10, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

saban promotes promotions

He even said he wants coaches with ambition working for him.

by rabidnole21 on Dec 10, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't think Saban is a coach hoarder per se.

It’s more of Jimbo’s respect for the man. Not that he wouldn’t hire Smart or Sunseri, just that he would be “hesitant” to raid Saban’s staff…

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Groupthink

Jimbo has been in Saban’s system and probably picked up a few things re: defense in that philosophy. Get someone different in with different ideas.

Plus, don’t raid Satan’s closet, or he might come raid yours. FSU & Bama are geographically close.

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't think Saban would mind us taking a coach.

If we took his whole defensive staff, that’d be another story.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Gene Williams just said...

that he now thinks that Mark Stoops is the frontrunner as of now.

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really

Last night on the WC message board Dot and Briggs were saying just the opposite. They even went as far as to say their was never even an interview with Stoops.

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I mean.

Deny it the whole time saying, “There are no credible sources. This is a complete rumor. Stoops was in California when he supposedly met with Fisher in Tallahassee, and Fisher wasn’t even in Tallahassee then, either.”

And NOW say, “I’ve got PROOF that Stoops is the frontrunner. First reported here on WC. Now’s a great time to sign up for a subscription. [insert link]”

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

http://regulus2.azstarnet.com/blogs/hansen/17668/mark-stoops-is-one-hot-item
Arizona finished No. 2 in the Pac-10 in total defense (only 315 yards per game) against the most sophisticated offenses of any league in the country.

And yet Stoops did not have a star. No Wildcats were first-team All-Pac-10 choices. They played disciplined, team defense, bent but didn’t break, and even though Stoops lost 44-41 to Oregon, he contained the Ducks for 57 minutes, which was one of the top coaching jobs of the season.

Linebackers coach Tim Kish and defensive line coach Mike Tuiasosopo deserve a ton of credit for Arizona’s defensive success, as does Mike Stoops, who remains heavily involved in the X’s and O’s.

But it is Mark Stoops who emerged as a hot-ticket coordinator. If the league chose assistant coaches of the year, he would be a strong choice as Pac-10 defensive coach of 2009. Good for him. He no longer needs the family name to define him.

He is the leader to become Florida State’s defensive coordinator (although the search is fluid) and it would be a much smarter career move than becoming head coach at hometown Youngstown State.

Under new coach Jimbo Fisher, Florida State is in position to return to prominence and it won’t take long. The Seminoles play in a relatively weak conference, the ACC, and they still have access to the nation’s top recruiting turf in Florida.

Those who join Jimbo’s initital FSU’s staff seem to be headed for greatness in the post-Bowden years. If Mark Stoops is the defensive coordinator there when the Seminoles return to glory, he will be able to pick from head coaching jobs more attrctive than Youngstown State by, say, 2012 or thereabouts.

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's the problem I have with AZ defenses

They do really good job of preparring for teams, but once a good offense figure them out, they often fall apart.

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/300987-is-mark-stoops-leaving-arizona-a-bad-thing
In recent years (and recent weeks) as the team has improved, they have had trouble stopping teams when the game matters. The end.

The Cats have had trouble stopping teams from making the game-winning drive when the game is on the line in the final minutes.

Oregon and Cal this year, Stanford and ASU last year, the list goes on. They have upset ranked teams but cant seem to put away teams that are supposed not be as good.

That has to be the biggest knock on Stoops, the defensive play-calling leaves something to be desired at the end of games.

The players have also looked tired when the game comes to the closing minutes. This would come down to preparation and not having enough faith in backups or not having players properly conditioned.

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Could also be a result of the offense sucking @$$

Remember, our D in the 4th quarter during the JB era?

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Trust me!

QB is Nick Foles is the real deal.

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

and the Pac-10 is known for it's offenses not defenses

in theory, AZ’s offense should have been better than its defense…

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The offenses has absolutetly done...

nothing to hurt their defense, if anything they’ve helped their defense.

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats been true since Stoops got there

But that dude thought he was gonna win primarily with defense. But "Zona only gets the California recruits the top tier Pac 10 teams don’t want and Texas kids the Big 12 doesn’t want or can’t fit into their program. So you can’t do what Tuberville did with Auburn (Win 9-10 games a year with sh###y offense but a hellish defense), cause you only have so many horses at your disposal on either side of the ball. They just needed a competent offense to match up with their D.

by westcoastnolefan on Dec 10, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the reference was to quality not captured by the metric

Meaning that the AZ D might play solid for the first 55 min and the O plays decent but not awesome ball.

Then the D tanks in the waning minutes of the big games when the game is on the line while the O improves. This might have something to do with conservative “prevent” playcalling rather than going 60 minutes wire-to-wire.

by NoleLaw on Dec 10, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Arizona's offense HAS

gotten better over the past few seasons. And that has correlated with their increase in wins. AND Mike Stoops keeping his job. They couldn’t really move the ball when guys like Antoine Cason was there. Their D was full of good tacklers though

by westcoastnolefan on Dec 10, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not using it to knock Stoops

Just assumed that’s where Noletorious is getting his info…

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm saying I wasn't using it for the premise of the article

The guy is saying it would be a good thing for AZ if Mark Stoops left. That’s garbage.

The author uses the fact that Stoops defenses have collapsed at the end of games. That’s also garbage.

I posted the article b/c it was relevant to what Noletorious was arguing and I assumed that’s where he was getting his info…

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha that was a lame movie reference that no one got...

In “What’s the Worst that Could Happen” Martin Lawrence’s character says that if this were a d**k-measuring contest, he would be declared the winner and refers to his piece as an “elephant trunk.” I thought it was hilarious, but apparently that movie was before anyone on here was born… :)

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

In other words

If this were some kind of competition, TN would be declared the winner…

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Author

doesn’t consider the talent level

or just random factors. What if I said “they choke in the early 2nd part of games”

by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Falling apart at the end of games could be a result of the S&C coach, lack of depth/talent, or a bad offense.

IMO scheme has very little to do with that – unless you’re MA using the “prevent” defense…

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen AZ play at least 30 or so times during the Stoops tenure...

and some of what you’re saying may be true, but it’s not a good look for a DC.

by Noletorious on Dec 10, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for all the answers

seems scary to me seeing the different directions of the responses. Uncertainty on whether this guy will be good or not. Isn’t something i was hoping to hear. Guess we just gotta trust Jimbo. Which really shouldn’t be too tough regarding his history.

by Cee on Dec 10, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Wille Downs status?

Anyone know what his latest is?

DT game changer – Jacobbi
LB game changer – Luc
CB game changer – Reid
S game changer- Wille Downs?

That would cover one game changer in each position.

I still have hope for our other young guns too, but, could you imagine?!

by rabidnole21 on Dec 10, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

You don't include Joyner as a DB game changer?

Downs dropped out of his Mississippi community college and left the team. He’s supposedly enrolling at TCC. We shall see. Don’t expect him at FSU. Ever.

by tricknole on Dec 10, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

To same SOM some time....

He’ll argue that McAllister is more of a game changer than McDaniel. Just sayin….

"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath

by NaGaNole on Dec 10, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Willie is burnin blunts somewhere....

I dont think he even made it a month or two in JuCo….But on another note, I dont about everyone but I am already far, far, far too excited for next season. I am going to have a 9month erection, I just hope when the season comes (PUN) that Florida State doesn’t leave me unsatisfied with Blue Balls.

by soccernole on Dec 10, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry to the Ladies!

I guess that joke really doesnt apply for both sexes. Just with all this Tenn Hostess talk…

by soccernole on Dec 10, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

If you are pained with chronic blue balls...

I recommend making some life changes in regards to significant others. I am TRULY sorry.

by soccernole on Dec 10, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Guys come on.

There are ladies among us.

Maybe.

They might have run away. But who among us hasn’t had a woman flee from us in terror. Am I right?

Am I right? Come on guys….

I hate you guys.

by MattDNole on Dec 10, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

so true

and i hate it when they flee in terror – but i LOVE to watch them go!

by 000111 on Dec 10, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

MY BAD

of course LJ’s a gamebreaker.

I’m getting chills when I think about Reid & Joyner together to receive a kickoff.

by rabidnole21 on Dec 10, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

kickoff reverse

1st game of the season. Reid receives, runs right, pitches to Joyner off to the races up the left side. Gone. You heard it here first.

by rabidnole21 on Dec 10, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Elam A legit possibility?

New to TN, but thought i would throw my 2 cents in about this. Billy Gonzalez recruitd Matt Elam to the Gayturds. Butrumors are that he is leaving with Charlie Strong. So does this open up his recruiting a little? Especially since Jimbo and Coley have been recruiting him? And now that ddie Gran is onboard, once he can start recruiting he can start sawying Elam to FSU instead of UT, correct?

Potential 2010 Secondary?
SLB- Nigel Bradham
ILB- Jeff Luc
WLD- Vince Williams
CB- Greg Reid
CB- Mike Harris
R- Lamarcus Joyner
S- Matt Elam

This is a beast secondary! and DC can build off of this secondary

PONDER IS FRANCHISE!

by 4_eva_nole on Dec 10, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome to TN!!

Couple of things:

-FSU is a legit possibility

-Gonzales is staying at UF. Strong has stated he won’t raid Urban’s staff.

Co-conductor of the "Kirby Smart for DC 2010" Train!!!!

by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The Secondary?

So is that secondary a possability for next year or am i missing someone?

PONDER IS FRANCHISE!

by 4_eva_nole on Dec 10, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It is a possibility...however

I wouldn’t write of LJ to play corner.

Vince is not an OLB Just not fast enough. and is very instinctive in the middle

Juuan Harley is pretty talented 4.3?? 40 at 200 lbs may not just roll over for ELam.

Yeah, right!

by truecolors on Dec 10, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Bradham is a game changer

But i’m guessing he has a great season and pulls a Geno/Timmons. He enrolled early so I’m thinking he’s thinking 3 and out..

by rabidnole21 on Dec 10, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

Unfortunely... :-(

I think your probally right, unless FSU is a big time contender in 2012 and possibly who we get as a DC

PONDER IS FRANCHISE!

by 4_eva_nole on Dec 10, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Give Sunseri 2 years with Luc and Bradham...

it is scary to think of what will be happening to opposing offenses! Ponder, Reed, and Easterling will be warning other offenses!

To bad Coley can’t suit up, well he may be recruiting on the other sideline!

PONDER IS FRANCHISE!

by 4_eva_nole on Dec 10, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

I do

He’d have to be replaced by another top 10 OL coach. Ponder had all day the 2nd half of the season.

by rabidnole21 on Dec 10, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

i think Trickett is great

id hate for us to lose him, hes done a really good job IMO

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

no doubt

i just like Trickett thats all

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."

by NorFla_Nole on Dec 10, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

They'll get there.

We have more underclassmen than upperclassmen on the line. With no seniors.

Trickett has said he prefers larger linemen he just wants them to be able to go 4 quarters.

by GrassyNole on Dec 10, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

How did anyone miss this?

That’s what she said…

Ok, I’m done with these…see what you started Matt D.

by jasonole59 on Dec 10, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

ditto

But top 10? Trickett might even be top 5. We could get top 25 O coach in short notice. Jimbo’s not THAT plugged in and connected I think.

by rabidnole21 on Dec 10, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Re CT Nole player question way back

We had a huge OT named Forest Connely (sp?) around 93, from Berlin CT. They called him the Berlin Wall. Go Coey CT Hammer.

by cp75 on Dec 10, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Bob

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

he will have the better team.

And Oklahoma doesn’t lose at home. It is an interesing question though and instead of Bowden bowls it will be Stoops bowls. Not sure how much he has shared with his younger brother either. Mark should have a good idea about the team though.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

and by advantage, I didn't mean which team wins...

I meant who knows each others schemes the best to use against the other?

by jasonole59 on Dec 10, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Joyner today

tomorrow Lattimore? Just kidding, just kidding (maybe).

What we do in life, echoes in eternity.

by Okinole on Dec 10, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

Uncensored,

What’s the significance of your tweet on Urban Meyer and Matt Elam?

Is Urban telling recruits tight w/ Elam not to come to UF this weekend?

by Drew J Jones on Dec 10, 2009 6:38 PM EST reply actions  

I, too, was wondering

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

"But How will I know limits from lies, if I never try."

by geoffissiffoeg on Dec 10, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't think so?

I think he’s supposed to be in Hogtown this weekend.

by Drew J Jones on Dec 10, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Thinking on it...

…might Meyer know (or believe) that Elam’s jumping ship to FSU, and Meyer might be tossing the kids who are close to him since he no longer would need them?

by Drew J Jones on Dec 10, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Message Board

Things are getting hectic around here….When are you guys going to add a message board? These threads are dysfunctional.

by nole65 on Dec 10, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions  

Probably need to research

that a bit. There has to be a way. Thread view is cool for like 50 posts, but you guys rarely are in the 50 posts and under level. Just an opinion obviously…

by nole65 on Dec 10, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Use the discussion thread at right if you have a short topic to talk about, OR

if you have something to say that is over 200 words, that is not already being discussed in an existing fanpost, start one.

by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

so you arent getting

message boards is what you are saying? Thread views are so antiquated.

by nole65 on Dec 10, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

message boards are annoying too

This works well until there’s 1000 posts…

by FSUjab on Dec 10, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess

i am just not a thread view guy. there is so much traffic here now, that any hot topic post surges above 300 replies at a minimum. But I hear what you are saying.

by nole65 on Dec 10, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Today was rare in that we crossed the 600 message mark.

We reached that because:
A) this was the marquee topic today
2) People are very excited about the changes going on and LJ’s commitment drew a lot of discussion about recruiting and the prospective DC
D) There was a HUGE amount of random conversations on here with many of the comments holding little substantive value
viii) A lot of new people have joined and have missed some of the previous answers to questions already posed in the previous weeks

by NOLEinTX on Dec 10, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

This is no slight on you or the site, FSUn

Your site has grown immensely due to you+TN staff’s great articles.

Not every thread will be like this. This one just became a free for all today. An off-topic thread would help curb the thread-jacking.

by NOLEinTX on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

nole65

just hit “c” on your keyboard when you come back and visit a thread. it allows you to just view new posts. it’s a lot easier.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I appreciate

the tips guys. I was just offering an input. This community has grown into something that needs more than threads imo. Keep up the good work FSUn!

by nole65 on Dec 10, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

"c" and "z" do the same things almost

One big difference is that “z” marks comments as read. “c” doesn’t do that. I actually prefer using “c” because if it is a new comment and I want to read what someone says in response to it then it isn’t marked as read and I don’t have to scroll through looking for the comment again. I can rapidly hit “c” and scroll through new comments. By the way you can also use “x” which marks the current highlighted comment as read. “z” is actually a combination of “c” and “x”. Confused now?

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by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice thanks genron187

Joyner’s speed is just incredible. He goes from stop to third gear so quickly.

Striker: "Surely you can't be serious!" Rumack: "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

i love the ending genron...

Still all about the U =) I hope you still come around the board often even though LJ committed to FSU. You always have good info, and you’re insight is welcome, because sometimes all of us drink the G&G koolade….

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by NaGaNole on Dec 11, 2009 3:52 AM EST up reply actions  

his speed is just incredible

i cant wait to see him in nole gear darting around the field.

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by jfree on Dec 11, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

50% chance this was a TN poster...
CoachColey
  
Next time im in church please No PHOTOS

by tdchrisdavis on Dec 10, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

he likes his song lyrics too, but i could see that too. ha

by fsw83 on Dec 10, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Billy Gonzales to LSU to become their OC

That is a big, big hit to UF’s recruiting. Gonzales was the ace behind Strong. That’s a loss for Meyer and Co.

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

Yes!

We keep getting good news and the Gators keep taking hits. Gotta love it. Thanks for the heads up NoleThruandThru.

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by 1newplayer on Dec 10, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

They are experiencing what FSU experienced at the end of the 90's/early 00's

Meyer was stupid to promote Addazio over Gonzales.

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe...

But their OL has been a serious strength for them. Choose your poison, I guess. I think our experience at FSU has taught me to value them: QB Coach > OL Coach > WR Coach > RB Coach.

I know Gonzalez was one of the main reasons they pulled in Harvin (over his childhood fave), so he must be dynamite recruiter, but you can’t just hire an OC based on recruiting.

by arrdub on Dec 10, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Gonzales is a hell of a coach

no way would that decision be based on recruiting alone… ask LSU

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 10, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

You're trusting The Hat's assessment of coaching ability?

He ran Jimbo out of town….

Sure Gonzales is good… just saying… from a general standpoint, losing an OL coach could be more devastating than losing a WR coach.

by arrdub on Dec 11, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Les Miles knows a lot more about football than you or me

I’m staying realistic

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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 11, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Stoops

Just realized that Mike Harris was also considering Arizona? The assumption was always Bama, so I decided to take a look at other interested schools. I’m not sure who was recruiting him though.

by jasonole59 on Dec 10, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Nice find.

Stoops’ background is obviously DBs, so you can imagine he would be in on Harris’ recruitment in some capacity.

by arrdub on Dec 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Christian Green deciding today according to AJC

One big-time prospect from Florida that Georgia may actually land is wide receiver Christian Green of Tampa. He is supposedly going to decide between FSU and Georgia today.

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2009/12/11/two-st-thomas-aquinas-cbs-now-off-the-market/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting

by marlins44 on Dec 11, 2009 6:40 AM EST reply actions  

Congratulations on a great get!

sad that my buckeyes didn’t get him, but that’s how things roll in recruiting. congratulations to you guys on getting a great player. a lot of us thought he fit into the mold of a antoine winfield… not too tall, but shuts people down.

good luck to you all!

by chibucks on Dec 11, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

thanks chibucks for the well wishes and stopping by.

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