MBB Game 28: FSU 67 at BC 72
by TrueCubbie on Feb 24, 2009 1:24 PM EST
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Florida St. Seminoles at Boston College Eagles, Feb 24, 2009 9:00 PM EST
Time to spoil the Boston Tea Party
Preview and Game Thread inside.
No Let Downs.
Turnovers get the best of us in this one.
Clemson on Saturday.
And then there were four: Boston College, Clemson, Duke and Virginia Tech. Four games for FSU to prove to the world that we are absolutely deserving of an ACC bid, with or without success in the ACC tournament. We have one of the more difficult finishes to the season and it is unlikely that we will win all four; we need to win two and have good showings in the others. Regardless, I still think we're in. Here are a couple of articles about the current state of affairs:
ESPN: Bubble Watch, Bracketology and Weekly Watch.
Collegehoops.net: Bracketology
Our win in Blacksburg certainly pushed us further away from the bubble. It wasn't the prettiest or easiest of wins, but it was a win. After starting at a blistering pace with Derwin Kitchen hitting 3 pointers at will, the Noles settled into a more realistic shooting percentage. And, Virginia Tech's scoring threats started hitting three pointers. However, the Noles escaped another heart breaker to earn the 8th victory in ACC play, placing them in a three way tie with Duke and Clemson in the second spot. As Hamilton said, "We’ve had enough of those Hail Mary shots go against us at the buzzer. So I don’t know. Maybe it’s our turn. But we had defended them well enough to put us in that position. And I thought a lot of guys contributed tonight. I’m very pleased with the effort of everyone that went in.” Douglas lead the team to victory sinking free throw after free throw and ended it all by saying, "This was a real big win."
Image from www.seminoles.com
Aside from outstanding defense, the Noles showed more confidence and precision on offense in the first half. In the game thread, a number of our readers commented on the ball movement and the pressure that our offense was putting on the Hokie's defense. VTech typically likes to run a pressure 2-3 zone defense. We shot them out of it only minutes into the first half, showing patience and thoughtful ball movement and motion away from the ball. It was refreshing. Unfortunately, our lead and our confidence went when we started to rely on three point shots. Despite the "purpose" on offense, we played our second slowest paced game of the season but it was our third best offensive efficiency on the year and believe it or not, it was our lowest FTRate % of the year. VTech only had a FTRate% of 32%. In general, we have only lost when our opponent shoots FT% of 50% or greater. Theory holds true.
Tonight, we head further up the coast to visit Chestnut Hill and the Boston College Eagles, who have pulled off two huge upsets: UNC and Duke. They currently sit at 7-6 in ACC play and 19-9 overall, with big wins over Maryland, VTech, Providence, UAB and the previously mentioned upsets. But, they have fallen to St Louis, a very good Purdue team and the 10,000 men from Harvard. They currently sit at 59th overall in the Pomeroy Standings. Their offense is 29th and their defense is 144th. Similar to the Noles they are a relatively young team lead by a senior guard. They average 1.22 years of college experience and Tyrese Rice, a 6'1 guard, is by far their best player.
Here are their numbers on the year:
Raw Efficiency : 110.3 ( 34) 103.3 (230)
Adj Efficiency : 113.6 ( 29) 99.5 (144)
Effective FG% : 50.6 (115) 46.8 ( 78)
Turnover Pct. : 19.1 ( 83) 17.8 (314)
Off. Rebound% : 40.8 ( 7) 36.7 (300)
Free Throw Rate: 36.9 (163) 34.2 (125)
3-Point FG% : 34.3 (159) 31.3 ( 35)
2-Point FG% : 50.1 ( 88) 46.7 (115)
Free Throw Pct.: 72.0 ( 69) 69.7 (218)
Block Pct. : 11.6 (316) 10.6 ( 77)
Steal Pct. : 10.0 (186) 8.9 (240)
3PA/FGA : 32.2 (189) 29.2 ( 53)
A/FGM : 57.4 ( 92) 47.6 ( 26)
They play a slower tempo game, averaging 68 possessions per game and keeping those possessions alive by having a ridiculous 40% OReb%. This will give us trouble. How often have we seen our defense force a team into a bad shot with only seconds left on the shot clock only to watch them grab the board? They shoot the ball well and they don't turn the ball over very often. They play a relatively balanced game, only shooting about 32% of their shots from three point land, which is actually slightly below national average. Where they get in trouble...they get blocked early and often. Solomon...are you listening? I will be interested to see how they attack the paint on us. This high percentage may be due to an increased number of shots in the paint and being aggressive around the basket.
Clearly, once Boston College entered ACC play, their margin of victory has decreased significantly.
Consistent shooting percentage and TO% and an excellent OReb% have made BC a threat in ACC play. In general, when BC has lost there has been a significant discrepancy between their FTRate% and their opponents and a significant discrepancy between TO%. Turn the ball over...foul your opponent...get into foul trouble...lose the game. Focus on the graph in the area from the end of December to the middle of January.
Boston College does not do a good job at generating turnovers. In our last two games, we have faced similar opponents, meaning VTech nor Miami caused turnovers. We had two of our lowest TO% in those two games. We have always done a nice job causing TO regardless of who we play, a possession team or not.
Our biggest problems against BC will be their ability to get offensive rebounds and that they play mostly man defense. We will need to be patient for the first few minutes of the game. Our focus on defense will be to stop Tyrese Rice, their senior guard, who is shooting an eFG% of 52.4 and takes almost 25% of their shots while he is on the court. He distributes the ball well and gets to the line often. Joe Trapani is their big man and he does a better job on the defensive glass than most and takes about a quarter of their shots. Rakim Sanders is their defensive specialist and also does a nice job on the offensive end.
Here are the line ups:
F #31 Chris Singleton (7.9 ppg, 5.2 rpg; First career game against Boston College)
F #41 Uche Echefu (9.0 ppg, 5.2 rpg; 8 pts and 5 rebs vs. Boston College, Feb. 23, 2008)
C #32 Solomon Alabi (7.9 ppg, 2.0 bpg; First career game against Boston College)
G #22 Derwin Kitchen (7.9 ppg, 2.3 apg; First career game against Boston College)
G #23 Toney Douglas (20.5 ppg, 1.9 spg; 20 pts and 2 stls vs. Boston College, Feb. 23, 2008)
F #11 Corey Raji (10.1 ppg, 6.4 apg; 2 pts and 1 asts vs. Florida State, Feb. 23, 2008)
F #12 Joe Tripani (13.9 ppg, 6.9 rpg; First career game against Florida State)
C #52 Josh Southern (5.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg; 11 pts and 1 stl vs. Florida State, Feb. 23, 2008)
G #4 Tyrese Rice (17.8 ppg, 5.3 apg; 23 pts and 3 asts vs. Florida State, Feb. 11, 2007)
G #15 Rakim Sanders (12.1 ppg, 1.6 apg; 2 pts and 1 ast vs. Florida State, Feb. 23, 2008)
Here are our most updated numbers:
Raw Efficiency : 99.8 (198) 92.9 ( 23)
Adj Efficiency : 103.5 (130) 88.3 ( 10)
Effective FG% : 48.3 (195) 44.2 ( 20)
Turnover Pct. : 22.6 (274) 23.2 ( 42)
Off. Rebound% : 35.1 ( 94) 35.3 (264)
Free Throw Rate: 41.8 ( 43) 36.1 (169)
3-Point FG% : 32.8 (228) 31.7 ( 49)
2-Point FG% : 47.9 (175) 42.4 ( 19)
Free Throw Pct.: 72.0 ( 66) 68.2 (129)
Block Pct. : 7.7 ( 98) 16.1 ( 8)
Steal Pct. : 10.0 (189) 12.9 ( 16)
3PA/FGA : 34.2 (132) 35.4 (256)
A/FGM : 52.7 (209) 46.5 ( 19)
Broken record: limit turnovers, better shot selection and rebound well. BC is a tough team and are looking for a win to stay in the hunt for a spot in the big dance. Beating FSU would help their resume immensly. Beating BC on the road would solidy our spot in the tournament.
Look for feeds in all of the usual spots: justin.tv or atdhe.com
No Let Downs.
Go NOLES!
(I'm at the Chicago Bulls game tonight, so I look forward to reading your comments after the game)
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Good post!
I really do think that 3/4 is very possible, and Duke, though quite strong in win over Wake, is not unbeatable. That said i agree that we are lready in, and so does Joe Lunardi , it seems
You sound way more cautious about us being a 'lock'
Than anywhere else I’ve seen. I really do think we’re a lock for the dance unless we lose the last 4 by 20
I might be at the game tonight
Hopefully I will be there.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
I live up here
In case you’re wondering, it’s a windy 41 degrees right now.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Feb 24, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think I'll be in SC then
Visiting schools.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Feb 24, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Grabbing blocked shots might be the key tonight.
I like Douglas on Rice.
BC is a terrible defensive rebounding team and I think we will get to take a ridiculous amount of shots tonight, relative to the pace, of course. I think the ’Noles can play their game. I expect us to get some fast-break points off blocked shots as BC is too aggressive.
70-65, ’Noles.
I think we take this one.
As long as we can keep Rice from going off I think we should be fine.
Limiting Rice will be key...
He is an excellent shooter…but he also distributes the ball well. He is number 2 in the ACC in Assist percentage and he has a relatively low turnover rate. We also need to limit his ability to get to the free throw line. He rates 13th in the conference in FTRate …he also shoots an outstanding 85 from there. If you think TD gets to the line and shoots well, Rice is significantly better.
Thanks for those links before
TC (regarding the Princeton offense). It was a great source not only for that, but for a lot of basketball schemes.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I think we'll win
BC gets up for UNC and Duke, but struggles vs. almost everyone else.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Feb 24, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Kenpom says .42%,
but I’d say around 45%, since we have improved significantly since the early season struggles.
Okay, I'm officially going to the game
I’m about as pumped as I’ve ever been.
I’ve been to the FSU-BC football and baseball games up here, but I’ve always been with my dad which kind of holds me back a bit – I’m not gonna be a raucous guy when he’s around.
Well tonight I’m going with two pals, and I’m not holding anything back. I’m currently burning an “FSU” CD with the uprising, warchant, even the seminole rap… I hope to blast it as I’m leaving the BC campus after a victory!
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
I'm still waiting for my 18th b-day
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Feb 24, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
I'll take a few pix
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Feb 24, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Off to the Chicago Bulls game to watch Dwight Howard demonstrate to them how to play basketball...
Go NOLES! Look forward to reading all of your comments after the game.
This link worked last time
http://www.justin.tv/insgadget
Showing the women’s game now – men’s on at 9 EST
Another Turnover on possession 3
BC throws the ball away on th ebreak though
I really love Alabi
but he has GOT to put weight on during the off season. he is not strong enough yet
Travel for third TO on 4th possession
frenetic pace
Tuesday nite 8 pm
BC with a layup to make it 5-4
Thought he got fouled
Kitchen with the drive and the layup
7-4 FSU
Alabi with the block
ON the slam attempt :)
Bad BC pass
And then FSU throws it away in transition
This is turnover city
BC throws a pass out of bounds
I think we are going to have to learn to enjoy ugly basketball.
Like the Steelers. The only thing that matters is the final score. Unfortunately I have not gotten to that point yet.
I thought about it, but will just watch the "highlights" in the morning
I’ll sum it up ahead of time though…
The economy is bad.
I will fix it.
We need to reach across the aisle.
The old policies don’t work.
Bush is an idiot.
I am not a socialist.
blah, blah, blah
BC misses a 3
And they knock the offensive rebound OOB
Reid with the block
Leads to an Alabi and 1 on the other end!
Alabi completes the 3-pt pay
16-4 FSU – BC timeout
Wow - we're really playing well
Despite the turnovers
Great start!
I like the way our guys are playing.
Nice interior passing Demercy to Reid
leads to two ft’s after the TV Timeout
Noles up 2 with 2 gt’s to come
i just think its too early stilll
reminds of the miami game @miami…we started super strong and they surged back
I thought TD hit that 3W
We get the ball on a bad DR
Turnover on a travel
woulda been a shot clock violation
Gibson knocks the Defensive Rebound OOB
BC ball – we’re up 8
Kitchen misses layup, BC rbepinds, quickly up the court.
Forces a terrible shot, but Gibson can’t control the rebound.
BC ball, new shot clock.
This is the intensity lapses I am worried about
DK down the middle with a layup
back to up 10
Offensive rebounding IS their offense.
Defenses collapsing on Rice and the eagles grabbing the freebies
ok - where did that come from
The BC player did not all bank – 20-12
FSU is out of control right now. Singleton didn't get back after an OReb attempt
BC had an open 3 missed, got the rebound, fsu blocks it, outlet to singleton, who throws a wild pass that is uncontrollable and goes OOB.
8 turnovers for FSU through 11 minutes. 20-12 Noles
In the 2nd half, they might hit some of these shots
Their shooting has been poor
At the 7:04 mark, 20-12 Noles
Points 20
Field Goals 8-15, 53%
Free Throws 3-3, 100%
3-Pointers 1-3, 33%
Off. Rebounds 2
Def. Rebounds 7
Total Rebounds 9
Assists 4
Blocks 2
Fouls 1
Steals 3
Turnovers 8
Points 12
Field Goals 6-18, 33%
Free Throws 0-0, 0%
3-Pointers 0-6, 0%
Off. Rebounds 1
Def. Rebounds 4
Total Rebounds 5
Assists 1
Blocks 0
Fouls 2
Steals 2
Turnovers
Singleton with the bad 3-pt shot
leads to BC transition – non-shooting foul
UGH
They take a 3 at the buzzer but the long rebound – wait, the foul is offensive FSU ball
Almost a highlight play
And on the other end, BC goes to the line for two
BC has it down to 5 as both teams are out of control on offense
22-17 with 3:27 to go TV timeout BC ball
Points 22
Field Goals 9-22, 40%
Free Throws 3-3, 100%
3-Pointers 1-4, 25%
Off. Rebounds 4
Def. Rebounds 9
Total Rebounds 13
Assists 4
Blocks 2
Fouls 4
Steals 3
Turnovers 9
Points 17
Field Goals 8-24, 33%
Free Throws 1-2, 50%
3-Pointers 0-8, 0%
Off. Rebounds 3
Def. Rebounds 8
Total Rebounds 11
Assists 1
Blocks 1
Fouls 3
Steals 2
Turnovers 7
We retrun the favor
TD just gives it away – leading to BC layup 22-19
FSU turns it over again as Hamilton will call another timeout. 2:31
Hamilton is really laying into singleton.
And then dulkys gets stripped leading to a dunk
now we’re down 2
How to describe that stretch
ends in Dulkys made 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45DRy7M1no
you have to watch the video. because what he is describing is not what is going on in the video behind him. hahaha its so ridiculous
yeah Katz is big
i haven’t had any problems with anything anybody has said
by nolesblogger on Feb 24, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
let's see
BC drove, made a nice dish for a wide-open 3 that clanked, but there was an OR that got blocked resulting in transition and a TD dish to Alabi for a slam which he missed but it goes right to Dulkys for 3!!! It’s good. FSU up 1 at the half
7:04: 20-12, Noles
Points 20
Field Goals 8-15, 53%
Free Throws 3-3, 100%
3-Pointers 1-3, 33%
Off. Rebounds 2
Def. Rebounds 7
Total Rebounds 9
Assists 4
Blocks 2
Fouls 1
Steals 3
Turnovers 8
Points 12
Field Goals 6-18, 33%
Free Throws 0-0, 0%
3-Pointers 0-6, 0%
Off. Rebounds 1
Def. Rebounds 4
Total Rebounds 5
Assists 1
Blocks 0
Fouls 2
Steals 2
Turnovers 6
3:21, 22-17
Points 22
Field Goals 9-22, 40%
Free Throws 3-3, 100%
3-Pointers 1-4, 25%
Off. Rebounds 4
Def. Rebounds 9
Total Rebounds 13
Assists 4
Blocks 2
Fouls 4
Steals 3
Turnovers 9
Points 17
Field Goals 8-24, 33%
Free Throws 1-2, 50%
3-Pointers 0-8, 0%
Off. Rebounds 3
Def. Rebounds 8
Total Rebounds 11
Assists 1
Blocks 1
Fouls 3
Steals 2
Turnovers 7
Half: 25-24, Noles
Points 25
Field Goals 10-25, 40%
Free Throws 3-3, 100%
3-Pointers 2-6, 33%
Off. Rebounds 5
Def. Rebounds 11
Total Rebounds 16
Assists 4
Blocks 3
Fouls 4
Steals 3
Turnovers 12
Points 24
Field Goals 11-30, 36%
Free Throws 1-2, 50%
3-Pointers 1-11, 9%
Off. Rebounds 4
Def. Rebounds 9
Total Rebounds 13
Assists 2
Blocks 1
Fouls 4
Steals 4
Turnovers 8
That was a tale of two halves in that half
FSU went from up 12 to down 1
Mr. Sem... are you aware of the reply to specific post feature?
For a while I was not. Instead of using the bix box, click “reply” and another dropdown box will appear.
Guys, if you have not seen the "Boom Goes the Dynomite" video yet, you have to watch it
I am crying laughing right now. I guess Will Smith referenced it when he messed up at the Oscar’s the other night.
i think i almost pissed my pants when i first saw it...
" they started off good but then eventually..but the ball state womens..womens team shot down and ended up doing poorly………….oh no…"
I will probably watch that at least 10 more times.
It’s like the SC Miss Teen. Funny every time.
by TBfisherman on Feb 24, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
BC will shoot somewhat better next half, but
the ’Noles have 12 1st half turnovers and will lose this game if they commit 10 or more in the 2nd half (assuming the same pace)
I've been frequenting the site, but no time to read the preview yet.
I definitely will though.
by TBfisherman on Feb 24, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
FSU not mocing their feet on offense (turnover) or defense (allowing an "and-1")
BC about to be up 5
BC fast break off a made basket?
Leads to a layup
I think we make a counter run
BC is too inconsistent
by CelticPride on Feb 24, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Sanders nails a 3 as BC is up 36-31 at the 17:11 TV timeout mark
Points 31
Field Goals 12-30, 40%
Free Throws 3-3, 100%
3-Pointers 4-10, 40%
Off. Rebounds 6
Def. Rebounds 12
Total Rebounds 18
Assists 6
Blocks 4
Fouls 5
Steals 3
Turnovers 14
Points 37
Field Goals 16-41, 39%
Free Throws 2-3, 66%
3-Pointers 3-12, 25%
Off. Rebounds 9
Def. Rebounds 11
Total Rebounds 20
Assists 6
Blocks 2
Fouls 4
Steals 5
Turnovers 8
And BC hits a 3 to go up 6
FSU calls timeout
I want the headset that guy's wearing
It’s cool.
by CelticPride on Feb 24, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
I like where it dubs over
“10 years” instead of lifetime for how long it will last.
by TBfisherman on Feb 24, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I have never seen any team in the history of basketball
foul as many 3-point shooters as we have this season
JTV is getting choppy for me
Sanders gets fouled? on a 3 pt shot
try this
http://www.atdhe.net/live-tv-3958.html
same feed but it is working for me
by TBfisherman on Feb 24, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
must have expected him to drop any and all passes...
or commit an offensive foul. Even a blind squrrel finds a nut once in a while.
by TBfisherman on Feb 24, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I do like Reids defense (sometimes)
for all the criticism I give him
by TBfisherman on Feb 24, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
He’s probably thinking about his Facebook profile status that he updates every hour or so…
by thirdcoastnole on Feb 24, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Reid loses ball OOB but apparently off BC (hmmm). 42-33 Eagles at 15:57 mark
Points 33
Field Goals 13-34, 38%
Free Throws 3-3, 100%
3-Pointers 4-10, 40%
Off. Rebounds 7
Def. Rebounds 12
Total Rebounds 19
Assists 6
Blocks 4
Fouls 6
Steals 3
Turnovers 14
Points 42
Field Goals 17-42, 40%
Free Throws 5-6, 83%
3-Pointers 3-12, 25%
Off. Rebounds 9
Def. Rebounds 12
Total Rebounds 21
Assists 7
Blocks 2
Fouls 4
Steals 5
Turnovers 8
Their shooting has improved
We keep turning the ball over
TD has yet to catch fire.
Nice play out of bounds leads to a missed FSU 3
Demercy tracks down the OR
But we miss another shot
Then they misfire on an alley oop
FSU with a steal
TD gets fouled on the pass down 6 – no ft’s
FSU blocks sanders slow developing layup attempt. 42-36
Douglas drives and feeds to alabi for a dunk but Douglas is fouled.
Singleton with the deuce
But BC answers with a 3
We get the ball inside to Alabi
who gets fouled on the shot
I think most here are watching an online feed that is slower than live, so I will cut down on score commenting
by thirdcoastnole on Feb 24, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions
FSU with an offensive foul and we go to timeout at 48-45 BC
Points 45
Field Goals 16-40, 40%
Free Throws 7-7, 100%
3-Pointers 6-13, 46%
Off. Rebounds 8
Def. Rebounds 15
Total Rebounds 23
Assists 9
Blocks 5
Fouls 7
Steals 4
Turnovers 14
Points 48
Field Goals 19-48, 39%
Free Throws 5-6, 83%
3-Pointers 5-14, 35%
Off. Rebounds 10
Def. Rebounds 13
Total Rebounds 23
Assists 9
Blocks 3
Fouls 8
Steals 5
Turnovers 9
BC in the 2nd half
4-4 on 3pointers and 5 offensive boards on 9 missed shots. The former is variance. The latter worries me.
by Bud Elliott on Feb 24, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
BTW
I wish I had a job as a singer in a renaissance fair ;)
If we go with a line-up of
TD, Kitchen, Dulkys, Singleton, Alabi….that’s an interesting collection with 4 legit 3-point threats and a monster in the middle.
Too small
Not sure if we’d be able to control the boards
by CelticPride on Feb 24, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
And Offensive rebounds
ist most of BC’s offense
by CelticPride on Feb 24, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Missed BC 3, OF Rebound, steal
FSU throws it away
Crazy turnover sequence leads to FSU ball.
Singleton dunks an offensive rebound
BC has an amazing layup. 50-49, BC
Singleton Slam
is followed by Saunders Acrobatics
BC with a tip-in off a turnover, 52-47.
Then they steal the inbound, BC ball.
Lack of focus by FSU. Not boxing out and lazy passing.
Man this isnt looking good.
We are playing lazy basketball.
He strained his back they said at half
by thirdcoastnole on Feb 24, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I know. They said that it wasnt serious and they would just cut down minutes
by thirdcoastnole on Feb 24, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
ECHEFU with the offensive rebound tip-in to cut it to 55-52
announcers commenting on both teams poor defensive boxing out.
What's boxing out? I haven't seen any :/
by CelticPride on Feb 24, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
BC to the line, foul ois on Echefu. 55-52, BC. 7:49
Points 52
Field Goals 19-46, 41%
Free Throws 8-8, 100%
3-Pointers 6-13, 46%
Off. Rebounds 10
Def. Rebounds 17
Total Rebounds 27
Assists 10
Blocks 7
Fouls 9
Steals 5
Turnovers 16
Points 55
Field Goals 22-57, 38%
Free Throws 5-6, 83%
3-Pointers 6-16, 37%
Off. Rebounds 12
Def. Rebounds 14
Total Rebounds 26
Assists 10
Blocks 3
Fouls 10
Steals 6
Turnovers 10
5 points this team can handle
relax nancy
Need stops and hoops
The key to this game is outscoring BC by 6 the rest of the way.
Uh oh
Acrobatic layup sends them to the line for and -1 op
UGH
And he misses but they get the rebound
The way we are playing we don't deserve to win this one.
by fsunole23 on Feb 24, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
TD with the layup drive
deficit to 5 with just under 5 to go
Points 62
Field Goals 22-50, 43%
Free Throws 10-10, 100%
3-Pointers 8-15, 53%
Off. Rebounds 10
Def. Rebounds 18
Total Rebounds 28
Assists 11
Blocks 7
Fouls 10
Steals 5
Turnovers 17
Points 64
Field Goals 25-61, 40%
Free Throws 7-9, 77%
3-Pointers 7-17, 41%
Off. Rebounds 13
Def. Rebounds 14
Total Rebounds 27
Assists 11
Blocks 4
Fouls 12
Steals 6
Turnovers 11
by Bud Elliott on Feb 24, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
I can't believe you goofballs!
You guys were ready to give up at the 5:57 mark. We just missed a 3 that would’ve taken the lead 2 minutes later? Ye doth have little faith!
Will win, its all good.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
negativity is GENUINELY annoying
get a grip
Singleton almost with the and-1
goes to the line for 2
And misses the second
OFfensive Rebound
by CelticPride on Feb 24, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
For anyone with the box score open.....
What’s the foul situation for both teams? I know we’re killing em
10 BC FSU 7
BC has Southern out with 5 and Tapani has 4.
Nobody has 4 for FSU. Sopread out.
by Bud Elliott on Feb 24, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
ead cut to 1
Alabi hits ’em both 3 minutes left
Trapiani
with 2 gt’s to get it back up to 3
Alabi fouled by Dunn, to the line for 2.
probably a good thing as we might have been tempted to take an ill-advised 3.
It's good if he keeps making 'em
hits the first
by CelticPride on Feb 24, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Did they not realize it was one and one?BC
OR on the brick rebound
FSU terirble job rebounding the free throw and BC gets another chance.
Leonard’s teams tyr to hard in some areas and are so lazy in others.
But they did not score
FSU ball down one with 62 sec.s left
by CelticPride on Feb 24, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Jim Dandy
we got a donny-brook here tonight
FSU takes a timeout with 21 on the playclock and 1:02 on the game clock.
Douglas is um “instructive” to Alabi to say the least.
Or does TD drive and hit a ridiculous shot
It remains to be seen…
Well we didn't play well enough to win imo.
BC deserves this win tonight. They were the better team.
Pomeroy said we were lucky.
I guess we can’t win every close one. I still think we have a reasonable chance to win 2 more.
by TBfisherman on Feb 24, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Pomeroy is based too much off our close early season games against bad opps.
by CelticPride on Feb 24, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Dang
we stole the inbound, but TD got rejected
by CelticPride on Feb 24, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
We foul
They get two freebies with 10 sec.s left
Seriously...in the few minutes that I watched...that Kitchen turnover was killer.
Sorry for the minimal comments…to stressed and into the game.
To bad we couldnt put Bradham out there in pads (without even) and had him play full contact defense for us.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"
Agreed. He was also very tentative in the beginning of the season, which I think was a result of his injury.
Put some strength on him and he will be an elite college player.
So I mentioned in the preview...the only time that BC has lost this year is when they have more turnovers than their opponent that result in sloppy fouls and then more FT by their opponent.
BC had 12 TO we had 18.
BC shot 16 FT. We shot 16FT.
Game. Set. Match BC.
That is going to be an amazing game...the teams are surprisingly similar. I think we get the advantage of being at home.
Don’t be surprised folks if this team goes on a three game winning streak. It is entirely possible and this teams wants it. It will be extremely difficult to do so, but they have the drive to do it. The key, as it has been the entire season, will be turnovers. If we limit the turnovers, keep the TO% in the low teens for the next few games, we win all three. Unfortunately, it’s unlikely to happen.
We really need to beat Clemson.
I don’t want us to get on a losing streak. I agree with TC I think we can go on a 3 game winning streak, but our guys have to execute.
I think it's highly unlikely to happen...but, honestly, it isn't out of our reach...this team has surprised us all year. We already beat Clemson and Duke was within reach.
As I have said, anyone can win on any night in the ACC.
Thoughts
I was at the game and these were my impressions:
Alabi looks real good, when he’s in there good things happen
Singleton just isn’t good. He’s sloppy and just doesn’t make big things happen. His shot was off and he wasn’t hitting the boards hard at all. Looked lazy too.
Dougles didn’t have his best game but his shot still seemed to be on
Our bench was weak. Demercy, Louks, Gibson, these guys did nothing.
Uche did nothing.
We’re just so sloppy it’s so hard to watch.
BC crowd stinks. Place was less than half full.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
Did you enjoy the experience?
I assume you’d be up for being our correspondent for the game @ BC next year (football)?
Thanks, TDC.
by Bud Elliott on Feb 25, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the update TD and I'm glad you made it to the game.
Alabi is the real deal and he should stick around for a few years. I will put something together about him so we all know a little more about him.
One of Singleton’s biggest criticisms coming in this year was his decision making. There was no question he had/has the athletic ability to be an incredible basketball player. In my opinion, he could easily bulk up a little bit as he has the frame to do so. He is currently relying too much on the outside shot, which is very streaky for him. At 6’9 as a Small Forward in the NCAA, you should be playing down low or making frequent cuts to the basket. It is not often you see a small forward with his size. He will get there in time, he has the fundamentals to be an outstanding player. I think there were such high expectations for him, he is trying to live up to them and more and he is frustrated that he isn’t the super star on this team. Singleton, relax…you don’t need to be the superstar on this team right now, we have TD. In the next few years, we’ll have Alabi to keep you company so that the two of you can lead the way.
Uche unfortunately hurt his back and was limited. Let’s hope it’s a quick fix. I can’t tell you how much we will need him down the stretch.
Douglas is our leader and is allowed to have an “off night.” 19 points ain’t bad for most guards…too bad Toney has been averaging over 20 for a while.
Turnovers killed us.
There wasn’t a BC hockey game tonight…so no excuses there.
FYI: 28% TO%...simply unacceptable...shouldn't win a game with that.
And…we cracked 600 posts on a basketball game…you guys rock…love the participation!
28%... I just shot a snot bubble laughing at that.
60 trips down the floor… 17 turnovers. These were also bad turnovers tonight, not the kind that sail out of bounds.
by Bud Elliott on Feb 25, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
And...Alabi had 12 possessions tonight...7 of which were tallied as scoring possessions.
Anyone else think we need to get the ball inside more often?
Uche, Alabi, TD, and arguably Kitchen need to be the guys touching the ball on offense.
TD is not a good passer and our over-reliance on him is probably a detriment to Alabi.
Alabi looks surprisingly smooth out there for a guy of his height.
by Bud Elliott on Feb 25, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, it's hard to believe that he is 7'1. At times it's hard to tell him and Uche apart on these lovely internet feeds we get.
Too bad Uche is on his way out.
In one of your emails you mentioned how much time our bench is getting. I feel that is seriously going to decrease for the last few games and the tournament.
Speaking of the bench...
I think Gibson is a serious sleeper already on the team. I think he will make a big impact (possibly off the bench) next year. He looks like he has the frame to fill out and at 6’11" could be a big presence inside. It has disappeared the last few games, but he showed a nice shooting touch early in the season. It’s probably too late for player developement this season, but I am looking for him to make some waves next year. I also wouldn’t rule out the possibility of a breakout game this year if the need arises, although I haven’t seen the confidence to support that possibility yet.
We played them close...
by the numbers it looks like they just got hot from the 3pt. line in the second half…. it happens.
Yeah, right!
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