Wednesday Open Recruiting Thread 03.25.09
Today, we take a look at this past Saturday's Junior Day. Also inside is an early primer on several 2011 prospects you should know about.
The 2010 Recruiting Board has been updated. (Including VIDEOS!)
First off, a link dump. In this current season, some of you recruitniks might be starving for some info. With the WORTs becoming (basically) monthly for the time being, I understand. Here are a few sites that are great:
Tharinger - Will have free forums up soon, the guy there knows what he is doing.
FVSports.com - I would suggest signing up for their excellent forums.
SoFLAfootball.com - No explanation necessary. Video + SoFLA recruits + Luke's expertise = success
Sunshine Preps - A great site for videos and such.
Elite Scouting Services - A relative unknown, but two Florida high school scouts run the forums there. Not much activity right now but that may change.
If you want to go the premium route, I would suggest NoleInsider, a fairly new site. They have some great info. I will refer to CaStauch on this matter. You can direct your questions to him.
Now, for the actual Seminole recruiting.
95% |
75-95% |
50-74% |
25-49% |
1-25% |
| Darius Cummings (DE/DT) | Christian Green (WR) | Brandon Gainer (RB) | Lamarcus Joyner (CB) | Denzel McCoy (DT) |
| Ed Christian (OT) | Christian Jones (LB) | Eduardo Clements (RB) | Jeff Luc (LB) | Josh Reese (WR) |
| Chad Abrams (S) | Jared Haggins (DB) | Derek Owens (CB) | David Olson (QB) | Philip Sims (QB) |
| Brandon Willis (DT) | Fred Pickett (WR, if offered) | Kendrum Malcome (RB) | Cody Riggs (CB) | |
| Tavarres Barnes (DT) | Khiry McQuay (CB, if offer) | Chaz Green (OL) | Branden Smith (LB) | |
| DeJoshua Johnson (WR) | Camren Hudson (ATH, if offer) | Corey Miller (DE) | Marcus Lattimore (RB) | |
| David Perry (DE/ OT) | Gilbert St. Louis (ATH, if offer) | Darius Davis (LB) | Storm Johnson (RB) | |
| Kenny Shaw (WR) | Meril Noel (CB/S) | Terrence Mitchell (CB) | Solomon Patton (WR) | |
| Anthony McCloud (DT, JUCO 2008 Commit) | Da'Rick Rogers (ATH) | Markeith Ambles (WR) | ||
| Telvin Smith (DE/ OLB) | Chris Dunkley (WR) | Lynden Trail (DE) | ||
| Damien Robinson (OL) | B.J. Butler (DE/LB) | |||
| Kendall Moore (LB) | Tavadis Glenn (OT) | |||
| Calvin Smith (DT) | ||||
| Jordan Haden (S) | ||||
| Alec Ogletree (S/LB) | ||||
| Terrence Brooks (CB) | ||||
| Jaylen Watkins (CB) | ||||
| Delvin Jones (TE) |
As you can see, I've tried to harness our chances with players in one table. This is in no way representative of the Seminole coaching staff, just my best guess at our chances will some prospects. This will change many time throughout the year.
ADDED
- Chad Abrams, S, Committed yesterday.
- Meril Noel, CB, Pahokee HS
Dropped:
- Jalen Fields, DE, who committed to UGA
- Tai-Ler Jones, ATH, who did not include FSU in his top 7
- Tiger Powell, RB, committed to USF
- Greg Dent, DL, UF commit
- Michael McFarland, TE, UF commit
ESPN Scouting Reports are out. A few, at least. Here are some good ones.
Christian Green:
Green is your ideal dual-threat quarterback in the spread offense and we feel he is a better passer than in-state foe Trey Burton, but in all likelihood Green will be moved to either wide receiver or safety with his supreme blend of explosiveness and speed with the ball in his hands. He reminds us of a taller version of Burton Scott from the 2008 class. Green has good size and a sturdy build. He is a pretty well-rounded dual-threat prospect and shows solid arm strength consistent delivery mechanics. He is extremely dangerous when he breaks from the pocket and has shows excellent initial quickness to avoid and escape the rush. His lateral vision and jump-cut ability to make people miss in the open field is terrific and he shows explosive burst to the second level and then the speed to take it the distance. It is tough to gauge just how Green will translate to another skill position because we don't see his ball skills yet, but athletically he is extremely gifted with the ball in his hands so our comfort level with him making a smooth transition with very little learning curve is high. He will have to develop and learn to become a route runner if moved to wide receiver, but we like his savvy and competitiveness as an athlete. Overall, Green is a playmaker and can create mismatches in space with the ball in his hands. He has good speed and could develop into a homerun threat.
I have to laud Green's enormous talent. After his elite performance at the recent 7 on 7 in Tampa, some Florida scouts are thinking about moving him up to the #1 player in the state. I think he is the #3 player right now, but he could easily move up. He could commit to us any day now.
Christian Jones:
In terms of pure size and acceleration, there might not be a more impressive looking outside linebacker than Jones in this class. Prototypical 3-4 outside linebacker with his long frame, good pass-rushing skills and experience playing up on the line of scrimmage. This guy may be a bit raw at times and a 'tweener from a positional standpoint (OLB/DE) but he can blow up the perimeter run or make plays pursuing sideline-to-sideline. Has great height and wide frame that is well-defined but still has room for good physical development. Plays the game with an intense motor and shows great chase speed from the backside. Good vertical attacker with his long body, great initial burst and deceptively good bend. Turns and changes direction without a lot of wasted motion for his tall frame. Takes direct angles to the ball. Closes strong and is very solid tackler; breaks down well in the openfield for his size as well. Uses hands to shed and keep blockers off his body well as an outside rusher. Shows great speed on outside run support; difficult to outflank. Flashes the fluidity to slip under the cutoff when pursuing through traffic. However, we question his reactive athleticism at times. Needs to work on getting a quicker jump off the ball and attacking the outside half of the blocker when employed at end, susceptible to getting reached. At times lets blockers reach him at the 2nd level when employed at normal linebacker depth. A bit raw in his reads and fundamentals but can mask it at the high school level with his superior strength and physicality. Needs to make sure he is conscious of his leverage when trying to squeeze the run inside. Shows some stiffness in space as well when he plays without good knee bend. Overall, we feel Jones will polish up his technique and diagnosing skills when he concentrates on one position at the next level. You can't coach his great size and explosiveness or the high energy he plays the game with. Great prospect with a ton of versatility.
This is a tremendous write up. Jones is heading up this weekend and, like Green, could be one of our next commits.
Lamarcus Joyner
What Joyner lacks in size he makes up for in excellent speed and acceleration. A talented receiver and outstanding overall athlete, but we feel his future lies on defense at cornerback. Needs some polish in his technique but has all the coveted traits you look for accept ideal height. Does have long arms and wingspan to help mask shorter frame. Displays great range and makeup speed. His recovery burst and breaking quickness may be unparalleled in this class. Reads the play quickly and covers a ton of ground in a hurry. Closes hard and shows deceptive explosiveness on contact. Delivers a great pop and runs through all his tackles. Tight, quick twitched body allows him to play much bigger. His run support skills, nose for the football and overall physicality really surprise you for his size. Gets over trash quickly and looks comfortable playing near the line of scrimmage. Really feisty and difficult to seal off on the perimeter. Transitions quickly and takes direct angles to the ball. Definitely a guy who will be able to set the edge and flourish in a "hard" cover 2 scheme at the next level despite his diminutive size. Pedal and coverage technique will need some refinement but he has the loose hips and foot-quickness to mirror and play off-man and the physicality to press despite lacking long arms and great size. But we still feel he is better playing the ball in front of him and may be best suited in underneath zone schemes where he can get more involved than locked up on an island. Safety is not out of question in the right scheme and he should immediately challenge for early playing time as a nickel corner. Could get a look on offense in the slot with his great foot-speed and quickness needed to create mismatches in the slot. Overall, Joyner is an exciting athlete and potentially a future difference maker on defense. A guy who is consistently around the football making plays.
I have to wonder about the part saying (paraphrased), "Joyner can play the press despite lacking long arms." What? Joyner has ridiculously long arms for his size, one reason people think he will grow some more.
As you can see, I bolded the encouraging signs with these three prospects. I will try to do this every WORT.
Jacksonville Combine
The Jacksonville Combine took place a few weeks back and the following prospect stood out big time:
Tavares Barnes: (per ESPN)
Barnes had a tremendous showing. He measured in at 6-foot-4, 245 pounds, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.69 seconds, the shuttle in 4.31, 7.4 in the L-cone drill and had a 32.5-inch vertical leap. His times in the 40, shuttle and L-cone all were highs for defensive linemen at the event.
Barnes also looked unstoppable during the one-on-one drills, using a variety of moves to blow past offensive linemen. He displayed advanced use of his hands, good footwork and strength. More good news about Barnes: He has a frame to get bigger than he already is, which should give him some versatility at the college level.
Barnes recently picked up a scholarship offer from North Carolina. The Tar Heels joined South Carolina, Maryland and South Florida in offering Barnes. Florida State and Florida also are showing interest.
Barnes recently picked up an offer from Florida State and we are in the drivers seat. Barnes, again, is one that could be one of our next commits. Barnes outshined Cane commit Louis Nix (regarded as one of the top 5 players in most circles) at the event.
Notes
Some have said that Lamarcus Joyner will be in the 5'11/6'0 range by the time he steps on campus. Can you imagine?
Commitment #3: Chad Abrams
The Noles picked up their third commit yesterday. Chad Abrams, a safety prospect from Lakeland (Kathleen) jumped on the train yesterday. Chad is 5'11, 190, and runs in the 4.5 - 4.7 range. Per ESPN, his vertical leap is 36.8 inches.
We told you about this yesterday, and other sources have confirmed.
He is playing in 5A competition, which is important. How can you evaluate someone's performance without knowing who they are playing?
First, the good. Abrams can really hit. He has good hip finish through the guy ballcarrier, and he also manages to use his arms. He appears to understand the game. I say this because he doesn't look to have great speed, but is usually around the ball. Also note that the balls he's intercepting aren't terribly thrown desperation chucks forced by extreme pressure-- balls that we saw Justin Bright intercept. I don't like saying someone is a "football player", because it's a cop out. He doesn't try to do more than he can (from what I've seen). His ball skills are really good.
Now the bad. His speed is not great, and his breaks on the ball aren't either. I'm slightly surprised we offered this kid so early, but maybe he has really grown since this film (4 months ago). I'm also somewhat concerned that they align him almost 30 yards off the ball at times, which is excessive and not something you'll be seeing much in the collegiate game.
Overall, I think he is a good player who will probably grade out as a high 3* recruit. He obviously impressed our coaches and if the coaches (who will probably be new coaches in 2010) use him in a role that fits him, he could be similar to UF's Major Wright. I also spoke with someone from his school and they said he was a good kid who is smart. Checked for his myspace as well and didn't find anything untoward. Sometimes, half the battle is being able to handle college.
I've also heard that we told him 6 DB's from this year will not be here when he steps on campus (2010), which isn't necessarily bad, but it does make you think about who Jimbo will boot. Cough... ED. I., Cough...
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Great read
If Kenny Shaw does commit, who else do we think will be a part of our WR class? Green, DJ,…
by DKfromVA on Mar 25, 2009 9:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends on how many we take total
I would rather us take
Green
DJ
Dunkley
But if they can fit Shaw in there and still get those then I will be happy
by ChileanNole on Mar 25, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what I'm thinking
I would much rather take those three and not offer Shaw if we’re only taking three total. But I imagine with our less than impressive depth at WR we’re in the market for more than three.
by DKfromVA on Mar 25, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We already offered Shaw though...
I just think Shaw will be ready to play early but has a limited ceiling, ala Easterling.
Dunkley will be a very tough get.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone can get Dunkley, it is Jimbo and Dawsey.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Debrale Smiley's name is no where to be found in those %....
An oversight?
"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."
Bobby Bowden
by NaGaNole on Mar 25, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's a grown man with a wife and a kid.
If Dwyer goes pro (From GTECH), I suspect he’s a yellow jacket. If not, we will battle Auburn and the Jackets.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the jackets will be tough to beat for him
If we could get Lattimore by some wonderful chance then he’s the guy. If we can’t I’d like to see something like a Smiley and Clements combo for this class.
by DKfromVA on Mar 25, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ju$t don't $ee Lattimore coming to Tallaha$$ee
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... Why not?
just kidding
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Mar 25, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strictly an oversight on my part.
I think we get Smiley.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep...nothing like having family close by (thomasville) to help with the kids...
Coaches should be telling him that, because it’s true.
by jasonole59 on Mar 26, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt call Karlos Williams a heavy lean
Sure his brother came here, but form everything his father, who posts on WC, had said Karlos is way more open than Vince ever was. Vince was a Nole form day 1 and was even upset we didnt offer him soon enough.
At least with Karlos we have shown interest since very early and that could end up being the deciding factor along with his brother threatening to seriously hurt him if he goes elsewehere. But righ now I would not call him a heavy lean to us.
by ChileanNole on Mar 25, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To be honest, I think his had needs to say those things to give the appearance of an open process.
Karlos is one of our top targets and we know his background.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I am still fairly confident
But his father has always said that this is not just a front. that he is seriously open at this time. In fact he has mentioned that karlos said he really likes Oregon of all places…
by ChileanNole on Mar 25, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Nole Insider
I havent joined yet, but I have heard great things about it, especially if you like recruiting.
BushidoNole, a legend of the recruiting boards at WC, is in charge of the recruiting updates and has done a great job so far. They also have great collaboration from JC Schurburtt (sp?) who used to evaluate for Rivals and he is a great source. Not to mention they are a ESPN affiliate and as you may know ESPN has all the rights for the Nike Combines now so their recruiting is getting better and better.
I should get some sort of compensation for this advertising.
by ChileanNole on Mar 25, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you are?
I do like Noleinsider, because they’ve reached out to us and we want to maintain a respectful working relationship with the site. In fact, I discussed Abrams with one of them yesterday.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you read the Rivals mainboard, virtually all the Noles that post there are on NoleInsider.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of them, but mostly just a thirst for solid info.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great stuff FSUsom!
Although I’m a little disappointed because I kept hearing that we were going to be talking about a couple of new commits today. I guess I’ll let it slide this time…
Is Joyner an Ohio State lean? I think I saw that on tharinger…
Also, what’s the deal with Ed? I thought he was just injured. Is he terrible or something?
by FSUjab on Mar 25, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joyner will more than likely say that UGA is his leader in his next interview, this is because he just visited there this past weekend.
Ed I was a last minute recruit who did not have offers from any other big time schools. Him and Mister Alexander are in the same boat when Jimbo takes over, they will be cut.
by kyled on Mar 25, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ED does not have the talent to play at this level.
He’s like a Garvin, another Northeast prospect the ‘Noles offered. Decent measurables, but played against poor competition. The injury didn’t help.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we recruited him for depth purposes.
He was a sure qualifier.
by FSUjab on Mar 27, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I figured it out
So I finally figured out why we took this kid. Lets take a look at our projected safties
Parks- Grades Concern
Downs – Grades Concern
Ed I – Injury prone, average skill
Moody- Injury Prone, may grow out of his position
Bright- Hard hitter, coverage skills suspect
Demps- Unknown skils till he gets on campus
Reid/Jenije/Alexander/Allen- Corner
Robinson/Mangum/Prob- Will be gone
So if you look at it, it’s paramount that the coaches bring in someone who will be qualified and ready to play. So abrams makes sense….
Abrams – Already qualified, great student .
So it seems he may be the depth, or maybe even starter that will be needed if we dont secure a top flight safety in this class. So the more I think about it, the more this makes sense.
by FSUSkot on Mar 25, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great observation
If you look at what the coaches are rumored to have said (6 db’s gone next year)…
J. Robinson
P. Robinson
Mangum
D’vo
all gone.
Who are the other two that will be cut/ excused? I’d have to say ED I, while Moody might be a weakside backup linebacker (as you noted).
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that depth will be key at S
But you forgot about Jajuan Harley.
by FSUjab on Mar 25, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Demps has got a kid too...
and sounds like he’s engaged. I don’t know how much it matters considering how far Valdosta is from Tallahassee, but it’s interesting to note.
by DA-2 on Mar 25, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
B, your right
I think moody grows (or has grown) out of his position. So your numbers seem correct. Look for our coaches to bring in atleast 2 more coverage type safeties in this class. It’s a priority to have a ball hawking safety. I’m not confident that downs will ever be a Nole, as he can’t even make grades in high school.
by FSUSkot on Mar 25, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jab
Thank you, your right, totally forgot about him. Still, with frosh, you just dont know what your gonna get.
by FSUSkot on Mar 25, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True.
They’re like a box o’ chocolates.
by FSUjab on Mar 25, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expect us to take 0 or 1 more, and that won't happen for a while.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need a big time safety
and I’m not sure this is the guy. Seems like a good, solid kid though.
by FSUjab on Mar 25, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dowling and Elam were the bigtime safeties. It's not going to happen with this Staff.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Devon Wright could be a stud FS.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...... I'm not giving up on my "offer Devon Wright" train.....
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to be sold on Harley...
but have a hard time after seeing him in person twice. If anything he can run, on the other hand we should not be surprised if he does not pan out.
by badknees81 on Mar 25, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've heard that he is stiff.
But the reports of him easily covering DJ Johnson at the SS last year kind of made me wonder.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of guys look like all-americans w/o pads on.....
just saying.
by badknees81 on Mar 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would like to see us go after
some OG/C and more than 1 or 2 LB. I dont want to use a DE/LB I want a guy that has been playing LB.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
by Desman on Mar 25, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Christian Jones as a prospect.
He reminds me of a Dekoda Watson with a bigger frame and the ability to do MORE at the next level (though Watson is an above average player). It is going to be hugely important who our next DC is and if he has the wisdom to play him at backer instead of End. I fear if it were up to Mickey (which God-willing it won’t be) he would play End.
This would help our front 7 size. He is listed anywhere from 210-220 now…under a college program you would have to assume that he will be closer to 230 – 235.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
by UNFNOLE on Mar 25, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our coaches didn't offer Luc earlier because they thought he was a DE all the way.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gets any bigger and he's going to be a DT
The kid is freaking huge already.
by Luke S. on Mar 25, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think he's maxed out?
I think he is.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maxed out as far as his weight?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Mar 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to be maxed out on a high-school weight program...
Most bodies can continue to develop into their mid 20’s. The only reason he wouldn’t throw on more weight is laziness or just a total lack of care for his body.
Most folks who jump from a high-school weigh program to a college weight program will attest to this. It is far more intense, more competitive and better training.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
by UNFNOLE on Mar 26, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone else said that too...
I guess we will find out, but talented DT’s are tough to find too. I’ll take him no matter what, if nothing else to be the first off the bus. Kid is scary looking.
by Luke S. on Mar 25, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that kid's frame could handle playing DT
He’s a good linebacker, and if he gets bigger, you scheme around it and allow him to do what he does well.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there any video of
Haggins a S? All I saw was him at QB. d
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
by UNFNOLE on Mar 25, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haggins as a S?
Sorry for the grammatical error.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
by UNFNOLE on Mar 25, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't seen any, but we and UF have offered him as a S.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is the possibility he can play corner.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he playing corner during the 7 on 7s?
Let’s get him up here and see what he can do.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about we focus on...
getting some quality depth at DT.
We need to STOP having to use DE’s as DT’s i.e. Thacker, Dawkins, McAllister, Willis.
by FSUjab on Mar 25, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Willis might possibly be a DT at the next level.
I have concerns about him being a finished product.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what is always said about a DE that hasn't quite filled out yet.
and look what we ended up being stuck with: DE’s playing DT. What makes you think he could be a DT? He looks to be in the 250-260 range right now.
by FSUjab on Mar 25, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Willis actually does have a DT type frame.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then let's get the man committed and to the training table...
by FSUjab on Mar 25, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to get some big fatties.
I want to see our DT around 290 – 310lb but I also want them to be 6’4+. Maybe its just a dream but I didnt think it was that hard to find big guys that like to hit. Anyhow we could have a great pash rush over the next few years but what about run stops.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
by Desman on Mar 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great read.
I have missed the recruiting threads. Keep them coming.
by fsunole23 on Mar 25, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sign up for the FV message boards
You can say the F word!!!!
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Mar 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Truthfully
I can find out just about all I need to know reading this board.
by DocHoliday2 on Mar 25, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doc,
I normally don’t endorse paysites, but the Guys at Noleinsider are the furthest thing from Hostile.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They appreciate this free advertising.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said Joyner could be 5'11"/6'0"??
He’s the same size he was last year, with maybe a few more lbs. 5’9" looks to be it for him.
by Luke S. on Mar 25, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmm, thought I read it on Rivals.
I don’t take anything said there seriously, but guy who said it is normally reliable, he could have been off base.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm concerned about Joyner
Looks like there are too many teams after him. He and Brandon Willis don’t appear to be the locks we thought they were.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Mar 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't worry too much about Willis.
Joyner is going to be a friggin Six Flags rollercoaster.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
aahh
Nope, a very small town coaster. We have it down to a small sect of schools. Now that is going to be in and out with 3 and who knows about something else coming in.
by genron187 on Mar 26, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When are you and LJ getting up here?
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just need to know
Do you work inside the FSU football program? When is the spring game? What time? What is the depth chart looking like? How many DB’s are yall taking?
Expect a trip soon. Either when we go to Bama or I have a coach headed up there soon so we’ll catch a ride with him. I can go only as far as the $ allows me. Either way a stop will be made. It would be even better if i could locate one of my good friends who stay in Tally.
by genron187 on Mar 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To the best of my ability, here are some answers.
When is the spring game? What time?
I believe it is on April 4th, at 7 pm.
What is the depth chart looking like?
……………..FRESH………………SOPH…………….JR……………………..SR
CB …..A. Alexander………. D. Allen…………O. Jenije…. …… K. Mangum
……….Greg Reid…………………………………………………………. P. Robinson
………..Xavier Rhodes
Sorry about the formatting, it’s hard to do.
How many DB’s are yall taking?
3 CBs, probably 2 safeties. LJ will have a spot no matter what.
Just curious, but have you taken a look at the DL we are bringing in? I think LJ would want to play behind those specimans.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 26, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
April 4th?
Dang cant make it. LJ is taking the ACT on that date
by genron187 on Mar 26, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tests take priority but you need to get your boy up to Tally.
And make sure he meets Jimbo & Mickey.
by FSUjab on Mar 26, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you make it to the Seminole Showtime?
It’s in July.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For 2011 in South Florida, watch out for...
Kelvin Benjamin WR/TE Glades Central 6’6" 210 – I’ve said it before, but he’s has the foundation to get paid playing this game. Good speed, great size, hands are improving every time I see him, and his coordination is all starting to come together.
Jabari Gorman S Monsignor Pace 5’10" 170 – Simply makes plays on the field. Will hit ya too. Plus it doesn’t seem like you would have to worry about a thing off the field with him.
Anthony Rabasa DE Columbus 6’4" 200 – Best defensive lineman on the team this year that included a Rutgers and Western Michigan signees.
by Luke S. on Mar 25, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One other thing...
The Dukes kid on the list they have from Booker T. Washington got in trouble with a gun early early in the school year. He’s now at St. Thomas Aquinas running track, and hopefully no longer associating himself with those in his past.
Bright, bright future in track from what the kids at BTW tell me.
by Luke S. on Mar 25, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts on these eval's?
#1. Teddy Bridgewater/ATH/Miami Northwestern
- The best HS player from Florida I’ve seen since Ernie Sims. At 6’2", Bridgewater will probably be a WR in college. His hands, speed, frame, and football IQ are all top notch.
#4. Denzel Perryman/LB/Coral Gables
- Ultra-athletic, fast in pursuit. First team All-Dade as a Sophomore speaks volumes. The next great Miami linebacker.
#5. Arrington Jenkins/LB/Miami Killian
- Will be a national recruit. Has the size/speed combo that major D1 programs look for.
#8. Tacoi Sumler/ATH/Gulliver Prep
- A WR/CB prospect that has the hips and speed(4.3 at one combine) to be an elite CB prospect.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ehh...
I wouldn’t sell out hope of Bridgewater being a QB just yet. His improvement from week 1 to the end of the season was so great. I want him to hit the 7on7 circuit hard this off season to refine those QB skills even more and see how he’s progressed once fall starts. No doubt he can play WR, very gifted athlete. “The best HS player from Florida since Ernie Sims” He’s good, but let him play some games in his junior season before we make statements like that.
I’m not sold on Perryman yet. REALLY short, like 5’10" and jacked. Makes me wonder if he will get any taller. Plus the game vs. Miami Central he didn’t make any plays other than a special teams tackle.
Jenkins is big, has decent speed, is a little lost on the field at times, but will at least find someone or something to go hit. They use him as a rush linebacker a lot, would like to see his instincts from a normal LB position some more. Pretty much ideal height and frame.
Sumler is fast as hell, but they never played him at CB. They had some goofy kid with a knee brace who got burned all the time at one corner and another 2011 kid I thought did a great job on the other side. I always wanted Sumler (or anyone without a knee brace) to take the other CB spot. Having two senior WR’s (Duke and Northern Illinois signees) getting most of the balls tough for him to shine a whole heck of a lot there. He’s another small one though.
by Luke S. on Mar 26, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Luke
This is why you’re the best guy in Miami-Dade
by Bud Elliott on Mar 26, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Bridgewater MLB?
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 26, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eval's shaky
Best since Ernie Sims???? He hasn’t dominated yet. Sean Spence Played at a high level for 3 years. Avg over 150 TT’s. LJ should have made all dade as a soph as well, 100 TT’s So yr and 115 TT’s jr yr and thats with playing everything.
by genron187 on Mar 26, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These came from Tharinger.com, that's why I asked Luke.
Appreciate the eval. I don’t know why Spence didn’t get more publicity on a national level. Loved his film.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 26, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Spence = Miami player I am most fearful of
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 26, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too early...
But if being the first team to show love goes a long way…
by Luke S. on Mar 25, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One thing's for sure, that ain't happening any time soon.
Maybe Jimbo, Dawsey, Buckley, or Odell.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand how these coaches can offer so early.
There are so many variables that could change things in the year to year and a half before they make it on campus. I understand the need for getting involved early, but there are so many early offers now – it seems crazy to me.
by FSUjab on Mar 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would be a good topic of discussion for you guys.
I know I’d read it, and it could simply be a thread devoted to the topic where you all chime in. (Just a thought – figured SOM or others would shoot me if I demanded an article or a TN roundtable.) Since Jimbo’s arrival, it would almost be an understatement to say that we’ve seen Florida State go from one extreme to the other in terms of what FSUjab is talking about. I’ll also state emphatically that it was way past time for FSU to catch up with the rest of the country. But jab’s concerns are legit, and now that FSU has finally caught up (I know, I know – fast-forward a couple years if you’re having trouble suspending your disbelief a bit), it would be interesting to read some thoughts on the trends that see college coaches courting kids earlier and earlier in their high school careers.
by TRMNole on Mar 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What factors do you need to balance?
What % of potential schollies should we hold back for late bloomers?
Is a kid likely to continue to develop?
What is his character like?
How comfortable are we with saying “you must do x, x, and x to keep the schollie offer”
by Bud Elliott on Mar 25, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Luke means letters and contact with the school, asking for transcripts, etc. Not an offer. "Real" offers can't be mailed until Sept. 1st of the prospect's junior year.
TRM, you crack me up.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 25, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct...
I’m not saying offer, but when the staff is on the road in May let the prospect know they are keeping an eye on him. Invite him to a spring practice/game now. Get him up for summer camp. First to show love doesn’t necessarily mean offer him now (even though you can’t officially do that til Sept 1).
The more times you get him on campus, the more times you can have contact with him, and when Decision Day looms, you got that trump card of “We were the first to notice you, and invite you to our campus etc.”
by Luke S. on Mar 26, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On finally getting an offer from FSU..Eduardo Clements
“I was excited, but they took a long time to offer me, so I am just letting them wait like they made me wait,” he said, per ESPN.com
by badknees81 on Mar 26, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have heard that we won't let him commit yet.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 26, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't let him commit? Why wouldn't we want him to commit?
Are we going for the “low pressure” recruiting to try and show the guys that our staff cares about what is best or the recruit?
or
Are we afraid his committment scares off some other recruits?
by jasonole59 on Mar 26, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's not #1 on our list
I still have concerns about Clements.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 26, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would make some sense in light of his statement.
Because the way he’s talking makes me wonder why he hasn’t committed yet.
by FSUjab on Mar 26, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is the best RB on our board that we have the best shot at, cant let him get away.
Chasing guys we have no shot at, Lattimore, Storm J, and others.
by badknees81 on Mar 26, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Over Gainer?
I am not sold on Clements
Then again, I think Pryor will also be nothing special at RB
by Bud Elliott on Mar 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sold?
Like I always say, go look at the film. Forget stats and all that hype of sites and a player’s size. Bottom line, can he play. Clements has started since he 1st stepped foot in HS. Practically won the State game for his team and was the MVP. He can run (4.4), catch, block, and run routes. What more do you want. Last every team they played, especially early in the yr, stacked to box to stop him b/c they lacked a passing game. And most times got pass happy. He still played hard with the littel carries he had but still was productive. He’s been a star since lil league and carries a gpa well over 2.5. What is there not to like?
And something I think you all should know and Amato should have done he dang homework. LJ and Eduardo was real close for 3 yrs in middle school. They both loved FSU, why FSU didnt jump on both of them from the jump is crazy. And i talked to them in Nov. 2007 and all they told me was that they were going to keep an eye on them. And im talking about jumping on them like Luke S. said since their FR yr.. Especially this 2010 class. Most of these top players were stars in lil league and most started are played Varsity FR yr.
by genron187 on Mar 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get people started on Amato...
You’ll hear all kinds of obscenities. Mostly about his feminine physique.
by FSUjab on Mar 26, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he played a lot better as a sophomore
and he runs behind a really good offensive line. We will take him, but I am not sold on him being a superstar yet.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 26, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We do have a shot at Lattimore.
We’re supposed to be at the top of his list right now.
by FSUjab on Mar 27, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ju$t don't $ee him leaving and that'$ why I don't think we have a $hot
by Bud Elliott on Mar 27, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If 0% is a chance, then we have a chance at Lattimore.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 27, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest problem is...
If we don’t commit to him, he will commit to to someone else…Are we messing up again…3 years from now will we but him in that Harvin/Demps should’ve had but passed on category??
"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."
Bobby Bowden
by NaGaNole on Mar 27, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for the typos...
I’m rushing out the door…
"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."
Bobby Bowden
by NaGaNole on Mar 27, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on Pryor
I would happily take Gainer, but I think our best shot is with Clements. Who is better, imho it is hard to tell, both are quick, but Gainer has the size advantage.
by badknees81 on Mar 26, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On Gainer
Why the lack of offers? Classroom issues? Off the field issues?
by badknees81 on Mar 26, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure here. We have offered, even though a site's page says that we have not.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 26, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rivals has us offering Gainer.
btw, what a great name for an RB!
by FSUjab on Mar 26, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is strange. Miami doesn't even seem to be in the picture.
by FSUjab on Mar 26, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's concerned about their depth at RB.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 26, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watching Christian Green's film reminds me of a guy they call "Q".
Anquan Bolden.
by badknees81 on Mar 26, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
According to tharinger we could get Shaw, Green and Haggins by the end of the weekend.
by fsunole23 on Mar 26, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lamarcus Joyner
was in Athens, Ga this past weekend and gave his visit an A. When he takes his trip to Tally and meets up with T-Buck, he’ll give FSU an A+!!!
by CSI Nole on Mar 26, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haggins
If his last name was something else would we have offered?
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Mar 26, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably.
Can’t be certain. What are the chances he’s a screwup with ODell over his shoulder? That’s part of the battle.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 26, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
QB position
who are Fisher’s targets? From the chart above, doesn’t leave me feeling comfortable about our chances in landing a stud QB. If we see progress in QB/offense play this upcoming season, we’ll get more looks…
by CSI Nole on Mar 26, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2009/3/3/778241/2010-recruiting-big-board
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2009/3/3/778241/2010-recruiting-big-board
Recruiting Board.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 26, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep in mind that QB's are very difficult to evaluate and many aren't offered until late.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 26, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see why were are going after Olson from SC
The guy who didn’t even start as a junior.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Mar 27, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently the kid he sat behind was pretty good.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 27, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who did he sit behind
I looked on the rivals database and didn’t see a QB from that HS in the class of ’09.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Mar 28, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Olson has a lot of potential.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 27, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who else is visiting this weekend?
If a few of the guys are coming with the possibility of making their commitments, they might be able to give a little added influence
by RunninNole on Mar 26, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
De’Joshua Johnson, Jeff Luc, Kenny Shaw, maybe Christian Jones
by Bud Elliott on Mar 27, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know its not recruiting.. but about Surrency
Is the NCAA waiting until next year to make their decision?
It’s not rocket science. Can the man play or what???
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Mar 27, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
News on Joyner
FSU has moved into the top two behind tOSU.
His order:
1. tOSU
2. FSU
3. Bama
4. UF
5. USC
CB Keion Payne from STA claims an offer from us. I am doubtful. Genron, your thoughts? Does he have an offer?
He is 6’0 170 and runs a 4.46 (supposedly).
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 27, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Several months ago........
it was reported that FSU and tOSU were his top two choices, with FSU in the lead. Shortly after hearing that, I find out that Deion Sanders is his mentor? We all know what happened with Noel Devine. I understand that Deion was looking out for his best interest but what are the chances he’ll do the same with LJ, and steer him elsewhere? Our secondary has been average the past several years, who to blame? MA/coaching or the players/talent we recruited??? If we place the blame on coaching, then I would expect him to sign with a team that does a better job with their DB’s.
According to warchant, Keion Payne holds an offer from us. 6’0", 170 lbs and runs a 4.46??? Hmmmm…
by CSI Nole on Mar 27, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deion isn't his mentor.
Payne has a legit offer.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 28, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MA/coaching AND the players/talent THEY recruited???
fixed
We all know that Mickey will not be here in 2011 and beyond, and it’s really doubtful he’ll be here for 2010. FSU will be better for the “loss”.
Also, I don’t think Deion is his mentor. I’ll ask his uncle, but I believe they know each other and that is the extent of that relationship.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 28, 2009 12:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Deion was at a combine that LJ attended.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 28, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe it was
tharinger that reported Deion being his mentor.
by CSI Nole on Mar 28, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weekend
I hope FSU lands several verbal commits!!!
by CSI Nole on Mar 28, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be great!
The weather up here has been terrible and there is another nasty storm rolling in today. I’m not sure if they got the scrimmage off today or not. I’d imagine the recruits are hanging out with guys from the team if nothing else.
by RunninNole on Mar 28, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WR Ivan McCartney committed to Miami this morning
per tharinger
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Mar 28, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kenny Shaw
He looks real good in his film, what do you guys think his rivals rating will be? Low 4 star? Medium 4 star?
Our WR class this year could be incredible.
http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2
by tdchrisdavis on Mar 28, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Low or medium 4*
I think he has limited potential but could play quickly.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 28, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaw did not commit this weekend.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 28, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang, so what are we looking at? Another weekend where we expected something but get nothing?
by RunninNole on Mar 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'll come eventually.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 28, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This program isn't impressive right now. It will be elite again probably within 18 months, but not today.
It’s weird for the websites who cover it. I try to write and remind people that we shouldn’t accept mediocrity, but other sites sort of pump up this idea that we will get 10 5* commitments. That’s not going to happen unforunately.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It sort of speaks to the sway this program still has that all these kids still show interest.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 28, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't accept
mediocrity! TK, RS and BB are the ones who do.
by CSI Nole on Mar 28, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a day(s) late and a dollar short in this thread...
…but according to some "fan"posts, we’re supposed to accept mediocrity. Accept it for what it is. Or something.
by TRMNole on Mar 31, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Shaw is a 3 star.
I wasn’t too impressed with his Rivals video.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 28, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After rewatching, I would give him 4 stars.
Punt return was pretty good.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 28, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
5.7/5.8 kid
I’m not a fan of offering fringe blue-chip Dr. Phillips skill players.
by ThaRinger on Mar 29, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scandal
does anyone feel that the scandal may be hurting FSU in recruiting? Texas has 20+ verbals, CRAZY!!!
by CSI Nole on Mar 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not much, just a crutch for kids who were never really interested anyway.
Mack Brown has always favored early commits, this is nothing new at UT.
by badknees81 on Mar 28, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2009
as long as these kids see progress from our Noles this upcoming season, they’ll soon forget about the negative publicity/scandal
by CSI Nole on Mar 28, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
an 8-4 record would be progress against this schedule
but kids won’t realize that.
Same record but much tougher schedule, all they see is the same record.
by Bud Elliott on Mar 28, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LaMarcus Joyner sure sounds excited about us in his recent interview
I hope we land him. He is a well-spoken guy, focused and sharp.
by badknees81 on Mar 29, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"It would be a dream come to play at Florida State."
“I love that school.”
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 29, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
edit: "It would be a dream come true to play at Florida State."
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 29, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Recruits attending Spring Game
Anyone have the list of recruits who will be at the Spring game? I might head up there for the day. Hope it turns out to be a great experience for everyone (players/coaches/recruits and fans)!!!!!!!
by CSI Nole on Mar 31, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Typo
Wasn’t sure but EVERY Wednesday is a new recruiting update??? If so, even better!!!
by CSI Nole on Mar 31, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's how it goes
Late Febuary – June - A recruiting thread when we (FSUn, CaStauch, me, MattD, or any editor) see fit or major news. Stories on commits, ect. Usually a couple per month.
July – sometime in fall (October?) - More frequent, maybe every two weeks. Recruiting heats up.
November – NSD - Recruiting every week (every Wednesday).
Hope that helps.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
by FSUSOM on Mar 31, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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