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Florida State is not making enough progress in Spring Practice.

What is more important?  Developing and growing as a team, or "winning" a scrimmage?  Apparently, at Florida State, it is the latter.

Thank God for recruiting.  Without the promise that a competent coaching staff will soon be in place at Florida State to mold the substantial talent that is now coming to Tallahassee, there would be little reason to follow Seminole's football.  FSU will probably have a real head coach soon, and will be able to get a decent runningbacks coach   What a frustrating mess.

Florida State held a scrimmage today.   I'm not exactly sure how to write this, so I'll go position by position. 

Jimbo Fisher said that Ponder's last two scrimmages have been his best since he has been at Florida State.  That statement might be surprising to some, because Ponder's passing numbers have been right at 50%, with about 8 yards per pass (not per completion, but per attempt).  I'm told he made few poor throws, if any.

He's been victimized by drops and incorrect routes.  Fisher's offense requires receivers to make reads and alter the play on the fly.  It's not overly complicated (not the run and shoot), and I don't know how much more we can really simplify things.  I do know that wide receiver coach Lawrence Dawsey needs to stop playing the role of "cool black guy who is a great recruiter and friend to the kids" and needs to start making sure that these guys are paying attention to detail and doing their job.  

In addition to wideouts running incorrect routes and failing to alter them based on reads (like breaking it off when they blitz), there is yet another problem with the drop back passing game:  lack of attention to detail from the runningbacks.  The backs are not doing their job in pass protection.  Blitz pickup is a bit like foreplay.  It's like letting your car warm up on a cold morning.  Fisher was very disappointed in the back's performance today, as they missed fairly easy assignments and allowed Ponder to get sacked.  Ponder doesn't take a hit in a scrimmage setting (no contact rule), but if the backs (Jermaine "Macmaine or .38 Special" Thomas and Carlton "Ty" Jones) don't start taking this seriously, Ponder is going to get killed in a real game setting.  This is on "coach" Dexter Carter, who is not impressive as a coach.  Runningback coaches need to be great recruiters and teach kids how to perform in the offense.  The actual running of the backs, is for the most part, natural, and the coach has little influence in this area.  Carter isn't gettng the job done when it comes to the pass protection, pass catching, or recruiting.  

The backs ran pretty well I'm told, though Jones tried to get cute once or twice (he needs to be an all-business runner). 

The offensive line turned in a solid but unspectacular performance.  Let's evaluate them in a minute, however, as we see what the defense did...

Star-divide

After being embarrassed in last scrimmage, Mickey Andrews and co. came out fire up.  They were more intense than the offense today.  Further, Mickey called everything really aggressively. 

I am sick and tired of Andrews trying to win Spring Practice at the expense of developing his defense.  Today's scrimmage was a series of tackles for loss and big plays.  Sack, loss of 7 yards, pass for 35, tackle for -4, reverse for 50, etc.

The fact is that the game has passed Andrews by.  He isn't washed up, he's completely done.  He doesn't know what to do anymore, but is starting to realize that the book on him is out.  His responses to the modern offense are a a tragic comedy of sorts.

Let's follow this series

  • Defense comes out and plays with great intensity but is hyper aggressive.
  • The defense is still way too small, forcing guys to try to run around each and every block, as opposed to taking on the block, maintaining leverage, and shredding that block.  The lack of size on defense is the fault of the Defensive coaching staff, as they don't understand anything but stopping the pro-style offense by using 8 men in the box.  
  • Defense does not follow their assignments, because they are poorly coached and assignment football is not COACHED to them, but is merely told to them.  There is a difference, and we see it at schools like Alabama, Florida, Iowa, and USC.  We tell our kids assignment football, but we don't reinforce that.
  • The defense initially succeeds (first 8 plays went for -7 yards, a sack, and a hold), as the offense did not expect them to send the house on every play, the running backs didn't pick up the blitz, and the wideouts did not successfully break their routes off (hot routes). 
  • Fisher, annoyed with Andrews immature attitude towards spring practice and not wanting his offense to look poor in reports, abandons developing the offense, and instead calls play after play designed to gash a defense that is out of control aggressive.  
  • Some of the plays get stopped for a loss, but others (predictably) crush the defense as they over pursue, overrun the play, do not take on blockers, and are punished for their over aggressiveness.  
  • FSU loses as a team.  The offense doesn't get meaningful reps because the defense is playing out of control, and the defense doesn't get meaningful reps because the offense is running misdirection play after misdirection play, specifically wide receiver runs,

So, the offensive line had a decent day overall, against a very um "unique" look.

If we had a real coach, this would not happen.  Bobby Bowden is worthless as a football coach right now.  Not only are we stretched incredibly thin because he doesn't do anything (including not coaching a position, as head coaches do), but there is no leadership.  A real head coach would demand that the defense play in a semi-realistic fashion so that they could get meaningful experience and so that the offense could get meaningful snaps as well.

For some great posts on the "leadership" (lack of) on this squad, see here, and here.

A real head coach would not hire his friend (Chuck Amato) and allow that friend, as a linebackers coach to disrupt the unity of the coaching staff.  Instead, we have a coach who hired someone not for his coaching ability, but because he didn't want to feel further alienated from his own staff.  A real head coach would evaluate his defensive staff and fire every single one of them.

We suffer from a lack of attention to detail because we don't have anything at the top.  Bowden is giving us zero.  How can we expect players to focus on the details when the head coach can't even grasp the big things, much less the small things?    We can't expect the new coaches to do their job and do the job of the others as well.

This team is not making the progress they need to.  Those who expect this team to win 10 games or the ACC, in 2009 might be in for a huge surprise. 

A frustrated, Go Noles!

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Did Mickey beat you as a child?

Just kidding, thanks for the info. After watching Miamis spring game this morning, I am none too worried, spring is spring, ugly football no matter were you go.

by badknees81 on Mar 28, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

True, but I wish we could make some progress.

Miami’s defense doesn’t look very good. Their offense looks much improved.

Might we have a shootout to open the season?

by Bud Elliott on Mar 28, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s always a shootout. I think you are buying too much into the message board hype though. I don’t specifically recall what the buzz was like when Jimbo first started, but I’m sure the reports were similarly glowing.

by Jaguar on Mar 29, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Touche, only last year was really a high scoring game. I was thinking more along the lines of being constant back and forth struggle making for close games.

by Jaguar on Mar 29, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing I don't understand.

If Fisher is getting annoyed with Andrews, why does Jimbo not just tell Mickey to cut it out?

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Mar 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

It's sad

that we are waiting on true freshman to come in and make an impact. It points to a couple of things, but mostly the lack of leadership. Dekoda not being in there does make a difference as he will be one of the two defensive leaders, but relying of Freshman to come in and make a difference is a sad statement of our defense.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Mar 28, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly

Though we should do a better job of cutting our hot routes, etc.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 28, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree...

with most of the posts on this site, and think everyone here is pretty much on the same page. I don’t, however, think it’s sad that defenses and offenses play freshmen. College Football is becoming like basketball, in that younger players can make an immediate impact. Look what UF did with their young defense. I know they weren’t true freshman, but…

by HeedNole on Mar 30, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never thought I would see the day where FSU defense was going to be terrible.

Let this situation never happen again when things are washed clean… if the cleansing agents can wait that long and not forsake us.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"

by FSUvaFan on Mar 28, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a crying shame...

We want and need to know how the team is performing, but it’s post like this that will send Lattimore to UGA, and Joyner to UF….no fault of your own, but disheartening none the less….

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on Mar 28, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Why? Would you rather FSUn say that everything is bright and rosy?

If a recruit makes a decision by what he sees on the internet, well, he probably won’t last long in college anyway. Besides, it isn’t even close to NSD.

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Mar 28, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No...

It’s not the reporting, it’s the coaches. If I’m a 5 star recruit on def, do I wanna play here? I don’ t think any kid would make a decision based completely on the internet, but recruiting battles factor everything. I guess I’m just frustrated. I’m tired of having to walk around in a UF hat and shirt for a week every Nov because I lost “the bet” to my next door neighbor yet again…

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on Mar 29, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Recruits don't read TN

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20081229/?pg=2

by tdchrisdavis on Mar 29, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt they cover themselves on recruiting sites either...

…no one wants to see what school they commited to today…. lol

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on Mar 29, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know players and grad assistants do.

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Mar 29, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was a depressing read.

I can only hope your wrong, because I am one of those that expects us to make the ACC title game this year. Lets hope they get it together.

by fsunole23 on Mar 28, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Why? I'm not being sarcastic. I really want to understand why people expect improvement overall.

Much tougher schedule, offense should be somewhat better (but loss of Carr, Parker, Easterling, and Surrency will hurt bad), and the defense should be far worse…

I just don’t see it.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 28, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect to see improvement too.

I believe what you are saying, it just is depressing to read lol. Our coaches and players need to get it together so we can see the improvement that a lot of us are looking for. Unfortunately I don’t see that happening until Bobby retires.

by fsunole23 on Mar 29, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I realize Easterling’s injury is serious, but is it certaine he won’t be ready in 6 months? Also you don’t think highly of Fortson? There’s also Owens and Goodman. I realize there’s a reason they weren’t starters, but at least they’ve been around.

by Jaguar on Mar 29, 2009 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, and I thought I was negative about FSU. LOL

by 38Noles on Mar 28, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome to the site.

If you come from Warchant, you’re in for culture shock. This is the most realistic FSU site on the web.

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Mar 28, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just report what I hear or see

We were pretty positive yesterday. Today was depressing. Totally childish of both coaches.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 28, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree

I don’t think that this year will be the year of improvement record-wise. I think that most of us here realize that 2010 will be a year that we should see improvement provided that our coaching situation shakes out like we hope, and that we may not be in true contention until E.J. is an upperclassman (or beyond, but hopefully not).

by DKfromVA on Mar 28, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm ready

for the Post-Bowden era… this read killed my night! LOL… Our football program is a mess! I’ll always bleed Garnet and Gold but this hurts. I only want the best for FSU and dadgummit, we’re far from being great. It starts at the top and trickles down. I’m ready for coaching changes, now… not later. Too bad TK and RS don’t have any cojones

by CSI Nole on Mar 29, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

This piece seems a bit alarmist. I can’t believe the practice issues at the moment or any different than in previous years. Then again, if that’s true, we haven’t been the best in recent years, so maybe the practices should be a source of concern.

by Jaguar on Mar 29, 2009 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think our defense may actually be better this year.

In terms of players we have addition by subtraction. Also, we have more experience than some are giving us credit for this year. We definitely have question marks at certain positions, but I don’t think we lost any all-world players.

However, we need to work on schemes. If we don’t figure out a way to stop the zone read/spread offenses on our schedule, there won’t be any improvement in the win column.

by FSUjab on Mar 29, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Everette?

I think it will be a top 30 type defense – not up to our standards.

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Mar 29, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

DC

Mickey Andrews is still the DC, so I won’t expect any new schemes and opponents will use that against us. Don’t get me wrong but our defense has always been pretty good. One thing I brought up quite a bit to fellow Noles was the fact that our defense was ranked in the top 20 (Nat’l Rank). Take a look at our schedule in 2008 and where our ACC opponents ranked in total offense (Nat’l Rank).

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2008/Internet/conf%20stats/2008000000821TD.HTML

Question is… where would our defense have ranked had our opponents been ranked between #25-#75 in total offense (nationally)? BC came in at #94, WF at #101 and VT at #103???? When I look at those rankings, I tend to think our D is average or above average (possibly overrated), definitely not top 20 material. But then again, that’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it!!! :op

by CSI Nole on Mar 29, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

We did lose the best player on the entire team

Watch what our pass rush does when the offense doesn’t have to automatically double team a guy.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 29, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe finding one is our only hope next year.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"

by FSUvaFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it depends on our disipline but I think we could as well..

I love myron just as much as anyone, but he was a huge bust!!!!!! one interception in 3 years of starting??I was a big tony carter fan, but he either made a great play or just got completely burned. McClure shouldnt have never been starting for us in the first place. Griffin was nothing special. I really don’t see thacker starting this year, because he is to small and also sucks.

What we lose in experience, we gain in new blood and in my opinion better athletes. Parks, Bradham, Smith, McCray etc. the talent is better.

It’s all up to the staff in my opinion…………… It’s hard to see mickey going out on a low note.. but we will see.

by pcnole on Mar 29, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember the myron post... good one. Question

FSUuncensored, on defense who would be your starting tackles and your starting safties ??

by pcnole on Mar 29, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen us scrimmage yet, so everything is second hand, but

I assume that McCray and Mincey will have decent summers weight lifting, and I’d like them to start. Kstew and Thacker can and will need to play important roles. We need Thacker to be a big body for about 20-30 snaps per game. I just want him to get big and strong, his quickness be dammed.

Starting safeties? I’d like to see us semi-scrap this year and go young, like UF did in ’07, and that would mean going with Parks and Moody/ Demps.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 29, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thacker is a DE playing DT.

He most likely will not be able to get bigger and strong. He is another example of a good player being misused in our scheme (or lack thereof).

by FSUjab on Mar 30, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the ground

Thomas and Jones picked up 192 yards rushing between them on the ground and Thomas took in a 38 yard pass he almost took in for a touchdown. Not bad I expected good run blocking. It is the pass blocking that is still a work in progress.

According to various reports Thomas and Jones were doing extra running after practice for not picking up blitzes and Thomas vowed it will be corrected in two days. Somebody please make a stone table in his honor called the promise.

I don’t see why our defense can’t be at least as good as last years myself when you figure they throw in McDaniels and McAllister this fall as well as Reid who could get some time at corner as a true freshman at least by midseason.

Excuse me for now my garnet tea is boiling.

by DocHoliday2 on Mar 29, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Because McDaniels and McAllister are 18 years old and wildly undersized.

For more info on what we need to fix the defense, see this link:

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2009/3/11/737204/strategy-session-size-does

McDaniel and McAllister are NOT the answer. Neither is Greg Reid this year.

Now, we SHOULD play them this year and scrap these older scrubs, going young like UF did in 2007. The same defense that UF threw out in 2007 (all fresh and soph) won the NC in 2008.

Also, that 192 number is a mystery to me. Thomas had 78 in the 1 v. 1’s. I don’t doubt that they ran well, but against the 1st team defense, it was 78 yards (on limited touches, which is pretty good).

Now, I will take some green tea.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 29, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently not. It was more a hope on our part, and I do think he will move back to defensive end

once Jimbo gets someone else in as DC, but it looks like he will play tackle this year.

In every interview, our coaches refer to him as a tackle. I think it was FSUsom who pointed that out to me (sorry if it was another reader!), and he is correct.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 29, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should throw all our money at Steele

"I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one gets to the Father but through me"

by FSUvaFan on Mar 29, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

For comparison purposes, UF is close to snagging a commitment fron a 6'3 275 DE

the kid is 275 right now, and he has not even played his senior year yet.

Florida gets it. We do not and we will continue to get the shawshank treatment from them and other elite teams until we do. It’s something that needs to be somewhat stopgapped now, and seriously addresses in recruiting beginning this year.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 29, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree, no one in the country would have turned Demonte away

Demonte is a stud, big time recruit and proved it against elite competition, this guy you speak of is 10 pounds bigger, wow. Our recruiting has been great the last 2 years, compared to the previous 2 before that, and things are looking good with this class.

by badknees81 on Mar 29, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think FSUn is talking about 'where' we put our elite talents.

I agree, they are elite talents.

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Mar 29, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

ESPN and Rivals listed Demonte as a DE. Other schools recruited him as a DE. We did not.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 29, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is telling.

Schools that recruited him as a DE: UF, LSU, USC, Miami, Georgia, UNC, VaTech, Clemson.

Schools that recruited him as a DT: FSU

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Mar 29, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Telling? How

That those schools are stacked at DT and we are not.

by badknees81 on Mar 29, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is the last Defensive End drafted from FSU to play defensive end in the NFL?

Not Everette
Not Wimbley

Our scheme is way flawed as we are too small to stand up to blockers. You can’t run around everything.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 29, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reynolds, but he was a bust.

Our scheme is the reason we have year in and year out had one of the top defenses in the country. Without their play the last 8 years our record would be much worse.

by badknees81 on Mar 29, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? The scheme, not the talent?

After we lost Steele, and Mickey’s son passed away, it’s been tough to watch this group.

The offense bested the defense last year, in my opinion.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 29, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

We finished 51st in total offense last year, the D was 11th total.

You have to admit the defense has been our rock since Richt left for UGA.

by badknees81 on Mar 29, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Offense lost us the Wake game.

Defense lost us the UF, BC, and GaTech games.

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Mar 29, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

A fumble lost the GaTech game,

and Ponders 3 picks agains BC did not help, and UF, did anyone stop them last year? You are fighting an uphill battle, the defense was better than the offense last season.

by badknees81 on Mar 29, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

A fumble lost the GaTech game? Seriously?

Do you know how many yards per play GT averaged? 8.4. 8.4. 8.4 yards per play before Nesbitt got injured. 8.4 yards per play before Nesbitt got injured.

I will give you UF.

How long was BC’s final drive? How many times did they run the zone read, IN A ROW? How many times did we blitz 7 against max protect?

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Mar 29, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's total defense

There are far better stats that show the offense was 15th or so and the defense was 20th

or, that the offense was something like 25th and the defense 49th

by Bud Elliott on Mar 29, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chauncey Davis starts in the league right now.Greg Spires and Orpheous Roye had very solid careers. Eric Moore still gets a check. You alaways make it seem like we are not producing nothing for the league. While we may not be putting elite stars in the league. We are still creating very solid football players. If you are a recruit looking for the proper fundamentals to go to the N.F.L. Florida State is as good as any

by Stick of doom on Mar 29, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our guys get by on talent, not fundamentals.

This has been documented in print by scouts.

Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook

by FSUSOM on Mar 29, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I make it seem like we are not producing for the league?

I think I’ve pointed out how we put guys in the league. See our letter to Gary Brown.

Who does Davis start for?

Spires and Roye were what, 10+ years ago? 12?

My point is that our defense is not going to be in the “very good” category until we fix the issues we’ve discussed.

Some of our coaches aren’t getting the job done. Jodey Allen is possibly the worst on that list.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 29, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davis will be starting...

for the Atlanta Falcons. He looks great. 4 sacks and 2 forced fumbles in a PT role last year. It’s his turn to start opposite of John Abraham. The AF are moving J Anderson inside to DT>

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on Mar 29, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought some coach....

(was it Carroll?) called McAllister the best 3-technique tackle he’d ever seen.

by FSUjab on Mar 30, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did.

I’m just concerned that we take these undersized kids, and only get one great year out of them, because it takes them a long time to reach the level at which they can be an asset on the field.

by Bud Elliott on Mar 30, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree with you.

McAllister probably should be a DE, but he already has experience at DT. That’s more than we can say for a lot of our converted DT’s.

by FSUjab on Mar 30, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Orheus Roye

I don’t think he ever played more than 4 games for FSU. I remember they let him a few games as a pure freshman but not much as I think they were trying to red shirt him. Then next year something happened, flunked out or something and went pro.

I don’t how much FSU had to do with putting him in the league other than just going out and recruiting a guy who looked NFL ready in high school. I think the guy could have probably made a team right out of high school. He was a monster at 18.

by DocHoliday2 on Mar 29, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

On a positive note...

MA’s constant blitzing has shown Jimbo that our RB’s need to learn how to block. We knew they could run, now JF has something to get in their face about.

Also, I’d be interested in seeing statistics on how often our opponents blitzed – especially the teams that beat us.

by FSUjab on Mar 30, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I can tell you with absolute certainty that our opponents rarely blitzed in our losses.

They generated pressure with their front 4, occasionally bringing the 5th man. Wake and BC played cover 3 cloud/sky almost exclusively. Tech sat back in what looked like Quarters much of the time (4 deep), and UF played loose man with one deep safety and a spy on Ponder.

When our line couldn’t handle a basic pass rush (non blitz), we were dead in the water (as any team in that situation would be).

by Bud Elliott on Mar 30, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bleh - that's what I thought...

I hope our pass pro gets a lot better this year. If not, I’m going to begin questioning Trickett’s usefulness.

by FSUjab on Mar 30, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blitz or no blitz

The rb needs to be able to pick up or at least chip the incoming defender to give Ponder some more time.

by RollinNole on Mar 30, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly right

Pass blocking for a tackle has a lot to do with ability, but for a back it is almost exclusively effort and understanding of the scheme. Do our backs want to block? They better, because Jimbo will bench them if they don’t block. Even in the NFL, backs do not get away with refusing to block. Sure, there are limited exceptions. Edgerrin James was a notoriously lazy pass blocker, but neither Thomas nor Jones are at a level where they can get away with not pass blocking.

Lack of focus and attention to detail because of a lack of leadership that is pervasive throughout the entire football organization is probably the biggest thing plaguing this program (oh, and that we effectively have one less coach than every other school in America).

by Bud Elliott on Mar 30, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disappointing reading this

I don’t see the coaches all of a sudden changing and working 2gether towards a common goal of developing our players. Andrews seems hard headed and stubborn and won’t switch up. He prolly believes “winning” the scrimmage is the best way to improve his defense.

Might be a little early to say this, but looks like we are headed towards another disappointing year. If nothing is done to remove Bowden then jimbo will be gone. Jimbo seems like a smart fellow and sees all the talent they are wasting due to coaching incompetence. Has to be tough for the guy to sleep at night

by Cee on Mar 30, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

People can change.

And don’t forget that MA and JF have only been working together for a couple years now. I know our schemes aren’t foolproof, especially on the defensive side of the ball, but players make plays. The proverbial cupboard has been bare for a couple of years now. Blame it on recruiting, coaches, attrition, whatever, but the bottom line is that players make the plays. I know that sounds like an MA speech, but the guy is right to a certain extent.

I’m optimistic that we have a good mix of senior leadership and young talent to improve on last year’s record. If not, then what are we all doing wasting time on this board. Let’s not write off 2009 just yet. I’m not saying we’re gonna win a NC, but we had a shot at the ACC title game last year and we’ll have a shot again this year.

by FSUjab on Mar 30, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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