Wednesday Open Recruiting Thread 03.04.09
So it returns! After a couple of weeks layoff, the WORT!
This week, we debut the 2010 Florida State Recruiting Big Board! Tomahawk Nation worked for over a month compiling that board and we're pretty proud of ourselves.
This is jam-packed with information, folks. Come and see every prospect FSU is recruiting, results from the UA combine in SoFla, and an early bird predicted class.
Let's cut to the chase. The Under Armour Combine took place in Miami a couple of weeks ago. Many top prospects that FSU is recruiting were in attendance. JC Shurburtt has a great Southeastern blog at ESPN and he was in attendance.
Although there were many high-end prospects at the event, Joyner was perhaps the most celebrated and impressive. The 5-foot-9, 165-pounder is explosive, fast and strong for his size, and he can change direction easily. Joyner posted a 4.47-second 40-yard dash, but it was his final event of the day in the testing portion of the combine. He said after his second try (when he ran the 4.47) that he felt he could run a better time if he were not as fatigued. He had a stellar L-cone time of seven seconds. (All times are unofficial, and official times won't be posted until later this week.)
Joyner also was impressive during the one-on-one and seven-on-seven drills toward the end of the camp. He also did well in the defensive back drills, where he showed quick feet and the ability to turn, run and close fast.
This only confirms what we know: Joyner is the top prospect in Florida and maybe the nation. While at the combine, Joyner also said that FSU was his dream school. Deion may be taking a mentoring role here; he was shadowing LJ during drills.
Darius Davis (Miami/Krop) was the top linebacker prospect at the event. Davis moves well in space and can cover. For linebackers, combines are a great measure of athleticism (Davis ran a 4.4-second shuttle) but really don't tell the story of things such as tackling, courage, fire and the other intangibles that go into being great at the position. That being said, according to several observers who have watched him play since his elementary school days, those intangibles should not be a problem where he is concerned.
I know for a fact that FSU is hard after Darius Davis. The top linebacker at the event is very impressive, especially at a Miami combine.
Running back Eduardo Clements is one of the fastest running backs in the Southeast and showed it Sunday when he posted a 40-yard dash time of 4.37. Clements has a lot of natural ability and really is one of the better prospects at his position, even though there are many quality running backs in Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties this year.
Many are wondering why FSU hasn't offered this kid. The reason is simple: Jimbo wants bigger backs for his offense. Additionally, Clements had a down Junior year to follow up his impressive sophomore campaign. Fisher might want to make sure Clements hasn't peaked, especially considering he runs behind an excellent offensive line. I, however, feel that Clements is too good a talent to pass up. We had better get on him quick. UPDATE: FSU has just offered as of Monday, March 2, 2009.
Florida has offered defensive end/outside linebacker Christian Jones (Winter Park, Fla./Lake Howell). The Gators join Florida State, Miami (Fla.), South Florida and Central Florida in offering the 6-foot-4, 220-pounder, whose dad and brother, both named Willie Jones, played for the Seminoles.
This new offer will make no difference. Jones is a Seminole. He, and a few others, are expected to commit at FSU's March 21st public Junior Day. Another name rumored to commit that day (per Tharinger) is Christian Green. Green could play either wide receiver or quarterback.
More tidbits from ESPN:
Georgia, Michigan, Florida State, Miami and Boston College are among the programs showing the most interest in quarterback Jeffery Godfrey (Miami, Fla./Central). The 6-foot, 182-pounder also is getting attention from South Florida, Florida International, West Virginia, Georgia Tech and others.
Florida State head coach in-waiting Jimbo Fisher extended a scholarship offer to ESPNU150 Watch List wide receiver Tai-Ler Jones (Gainesville, Ga./Gainesville). The Noles are the latest program to jump in with an offer for Jones and offered his teammate, ESPNU150 Watch List athlete/quarterback Blake Sims recently as well.
We are really hitting Georgia hard this year. Godfrey received an offer from us, per Rivals.
Other notes to get you up to speed on FSU 2010 recruiting.
- We have about 70 offers out right now
- UF has roughly 80 offers out
- Miami has about 55 offers out
Traditional FSU strongholds (pipelines)
South Georgia looks to be loaded
South Florida looks to be as loaded as it's ever been
Tampa looks decent (we are improving here).
Jacksonville is loaded this year
The Panhandle is down compared to last year
The entire Southeast looks to be up from last year.
All in all, Florida has insane talent this year. The state might be more loaded than it has ever been. This would be a great year to have a full 25 scholarships available.
NEEDS
5 - 6 DL
2 - 3 CB
3 - 4 LB
3 - 4 WR
1 QB
PRIORITIES
The coaches seem to be after some prospects very hard and some others, well, not so hard. From what I can gather, here are the prospects that we are on like white on rice. I agree completely with CaStauch when he says that Jimbo gets fixated on certain prospects. In 2008, it was Julio Jones. In 2009, he ignored Andre Debose until he committed to the Gators. This year, it looks to be Marcus Lattimore. Here they are:
Marcus Lattimore (probably Jimbo's #1 target at any position)
Chris Dunkley
Brandon Willis
De'Joshua (DJ) Johnson
Lamarcus Joyner
Christian Green
I want to do an early bird predicted class. Disclaimer: this is subject to change many times.
QB - David Olson (who knows right now)
RB - Debrale Smiley (JUCO, original commit 2008)
RB - Eduardo Clements
WR - DJ Johnson
WR - Chris Dunkley
WR - Fred Pickett
OL - Ed Christian (commit)
OL - Chaz Green
DT - Anthony (Amp) McCloud (JUCO, original Commit 2008)
DT - Tavaris Barnes
DE - Corey Miller
DE/DT - Brandon Willis
DE/DT - Darious Cummings (commit)
LB/DE - Christian Jones
LB/DE - Tevin Smith
LB - Jeff Luc
LB - Darius Davis
CB - Lamarcus Joyner
CB - Terrence Mitchell
S - EJ Johnson
ATH - Devon Wright (S or RB)
ATH - Christian Green (WR or QB)
Now, that's 22 kids. Do not underestimate the attrition that will occur when Jimbo takes over. I would like another cornerback, but who really knows? These are two studs I am really hoping we go after. I want to see Trickett land a big time stud, a 5 star, so he will not only work with projects every year. Other than a few kids, this class could be very possible to complete. If all goes as planned, this could possibly be the best class Jimbo has pulled while he has been at Florida State. There would be so much five star talent in this predicted class.Plus, it's recruiting, you know some kids will emerge from now until February 2010 (ahem Phillip Thomas ahem).
You might be wondering about the names of EJ Johnson and Devon Wright, two studs not many people have heard of.
EJ Johnson, safety from Cocoa, dominated the state title game. He had three picks and probably should have had a couple of more. All were tremendous reads and breaks on the ball. He is a recruit that will emerge big time over the next few months. EJ is more than likely a free safety prospect in college. Good writeup here.
Devon Wright, a RB/S from Miami, is another high level prospect. There is film on Scout for those that can view there. I have heard that it is extremely impressive. Wright is about 6'1'' 195, and he is a smooth runner that seems to glide when he runs. Good writeup here.
Blake Sims, a 6'0", 180lb QB/ ATH from Gainesville... Georgia. I'm always hesitant to declare that a kid who just turned 17 must be an athlete as opposed to a quarterback. Our friends at Chantrant.com have a writeup on him as well as video. I don't love his work at QB, but he does have a lot of potential at the position. If he grows 2 more inches, he's a quarterback. If he doesn't he's Preston Parker, minus the drugs.
Tevin Smith, checking in at 6'4'' 200, is a DE/LB out of Valdosta that we have just recently. Judging from his videos, he has a great size/speed ratio. Smith is capable of big hits as well. We should have a great shot at him with our new Valdosta pipeline. The only question about Smith is position. Will he grow into a DE? Will he remain a LB? Tevin could possibly commit at our March 21 Junior Day.
And, one more thing to get you excited. Here is Anthony McCloud's film from high school.
Amp McCloud High lite video (via ytsejam180)
Question of the day:
Other than fill in the existing cells, what should we do to improve the recruiting board?
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They do get "crunk" up here in TN.
Kiffin love is pretty intense up here right now.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
Personally, I hope Kiffin turns it around there.
At least they’ll give UF some competition in the East.
FSUStateOfMind
You’re in Tennessee?
Nashville myself.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
In Columbis, SC
the word on the street is that Kiffin is trying to make a name for himself. With what hes said about Myers and Spurrier hes just about pissed the entire SEC off. I dont know if he can pull it off. I do see UF not putting the brakes on Tenn when they get up 50+ to 0. I see the first string staying in the game tell its 80+, even then I think they go for 2 on every TD and do any and everything they can to rake points and make him look like an ass.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Excited
Luc and Davis at LB, the corners, and DJ and Dunkley at WR would be sick. Any chance those Byrnes guys are a package?
Uncensored
The work done in this thread is incredible! After reading this, I feel like I’m in the office listening to Jimbo prioritize the recruits he wants signed.
- Site for FSU news on the web. Not even close.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Hmmm, that was supposed to say (number) 1 site for FSU news on the web. lol
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Woops :)
FSUStateofMind… great job man! How’s it feel to have all your credit absorbed up by Uncensored like a sponge?
My bad! You rock man, nice job with the article.
Cheers!
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Addendum
Great job Tomahawk Nation! lol
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Tevin Smith...
is tiny for a linebacker/d-end. At 6-4 and he only weighs 200? Kid needs to put some meat on.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
He is but He has the frame to be decent sized
Weakside end.
Remember that when Jimbo fires Amato and Mickey leaves, we will go with sensibly sized defenders, meaning others will be bigger.
Good job guys...
…although you really probably should be studying. :)
Before anyone asks... we have about zero chance with Brandon Linder
Any quotes he gives have been very forced.
Im getting some swagger back
The way I feel, if he does not want to go the best place on earth, I dont want him either. FSU is too great a place to worry about some idiot who has no idea how great it is.
Sweet, I was needing an FSU football fix
One question. Why do you mention the attrition rate once Jimbo takes over. Are you implying we will lose young kids, and if that why? I would expect all these kids to understand Jimbo is on deck. If its the older players, do you mean that Jimbo will be cutting seniors that dont produce?
A little elaboration on that would be great, regardless though, great write-up.
Also, I think while it would be great to have the 25 spots considering a few of you guys have been mentioning how loaded FL is going to be, the important thing is to get the right guys. I have full faith in Jimbo that if we can only sign 22, those 22 are going to have way more hits then misses, and just slight hits, I expect to be a first round factory again.
Every new coach is entitled to getting "His guys"
Jimbo is still under Bobby when it comes to big decisions, and that’s dangerous because I don’t know if Bobby even knows where he is.
I’d expect him to cut a senior Guard who weighs 260lbs, slacker linebackers who shouldn’t be playing in a BCS conference, etc. Seniors who aren’t pulling their weight. 4 or 5 guys.
yea, okay
I guess it never really sunk in that BB is still “in charge.” I just assumed he continued to sit and watch with an empty stare while Jimbo was running the team. Maybe BB actually put his foot down on a few things. I think our biggest recruit in a few years is going to be Jimbo Fisher. I hope once he gets the starters nod (and he darned well better), he leads us to the promised land.
You didn't have Lattimore in the list....
So you don’t think we have a shot at him..?
"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."
Bobby Bowden
We're mixed on this
Me: NO shot
FSUsom: some shot (I think)
CaStauch: good (decent) shot.
I think South Carolina will pay whatever it takes. Also, his mom won’t let him leave the state.
Zero shot at Lattimore for me.
Great shot at Willis and Miller, IMO.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
So McCloud and Smiley are expected to complete JUCO and fully qualify?
This is news to me.
Linebackers...
nice thread by the way. I’m kinda concerned on our approach on linebackers, because I just don’t see the quantity of offers or leans our way. I know its early but if Christian grows to the D-line, what are our other options?
You have a couple guys listed at LB/DE and I know we are growing towards the heavier type LB, but the height on the guys is what worries me, that they’ll ultimately put their hand down. We lost Watkins, and Wright this year, and ultimately attrition may take Smiley Harris out the picture, Gresham is banged up, and what if Nigel Bradham leaves early in 2 years? Also worrying about CJ Mizell staying out of trouble.
I know we have always been loaded at linebacker but these scholly crunches hurt, and I’m concerned what our ‘true’ depth would be in a year or two. I think we need to start offering LBers like we are offering O’linemen. Just a little rant….great thread again.
by immoknole on Mar 4, 2009 10:30 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Great post, it doesn't help that we have a clown coaching.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
I just hope we can say ust one more year.
I pray Jimbo takes over and gets a top knotch guy in the work with the LB and CB. I love MA but we need new blood. Jimbo has Trickett on the Off and I hope the next LB and CB coach is just as good as him with these pos. This would mean we wouldnt have to get the top guys but could turn 3 and 4* guys into NFL prospects. Im not saying dont go after the 5* guys because If we can get them then we need to get them.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Not so sure on Pickett
I am not sold on Pickett being in our class. I know we have offered and such but I thing with limited numbers we have others higher on our board than him. I think Green is a wide out so he replaces Pickett. To fill Pickett’s spot I would put another CB with it being either the kid from Armwood (McQuary (sp?)) or the other CB from St. Thomas.
We lost Dakota??
Where’d he go?
"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."
Bobby Bowden
So, is there no word yet on sholly reductions?
What the hell. This is taking them forever. I wonder what the holdup is.
Ed Christian FSU 2010 Commit
Ed Christian, OT, Junior, Valdosta, Ga./Lowndes
What stood out: A combine venue is not usually an ideal setting for an offensive line prospect to showcase his talents, but Christian certainly passed the eyeball test and posted some excellent scores in a few events. The recent FSU commit looked all of 6-foot-4, and his body was a well-layered 285 pounds of bulk. He ran and moved well for his size. Most importantly, we feel he will be able to carry 300 pounds at the next level while retaining his current athleticism. He had an impressive power ball score (39) showing his good upper-body strength to run block. Christian told us he needs to improve his pass protection and overall footwork. That will be a must to play left offensive tackle — the position the Georgia native said he is being recruited at — for the Seminoles. He will certainly have some work to do, considering he is coming from a run-oriented offense at Lowndes.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=3944390
“I am strong with FSU, they are all about academics,” Christian said. “They are also looking for a leader and I know I can be that person.”
There are so many funny things in this quote I wouldn't know where to begin.
Kudos, Ed. If it doesn’t work out on the football team, I think you’d make a great poster here.
Foot work and pass blocking can be tought
Runblocking is a great base. Also with the way we move the pocket it would almost be like runblocking to a point.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Sounds good.
Trickett has said he doesn’t necessarily want smaller offensive lineman, but more athletic ones. Sounds like he would fit in with Trick’s idea of what tackles should look like.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Terrence Mitchell, 2010 prospect
Terrence Mitchell, CB, Junior, Tampa, Fla./Hillsborough
What stood out: Mitchell showed some good initial burst and explosion throughout the day and posted some respectable times. Considering Mitchell is a corner who boasts a handful of BCS offers entering spring evaluations — including one from FSU — we expected to see a faster 40 time than his 4.69, but Mitchell said his game is not all about speed. He prides himself on his coverage technique, but admits he needs to add size and get stronger (5-foot-9, 165 pounds) to match up against today’s bigger college receivers.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=3944390
Whoa! 4.69?
I’m pretty sure I could run a 4.7…
165 at any position other than kicker or punter
in college just doesn’t cut it. It’s likely though he could throw on 15-20 lbs of good weight within 2 years (esp on a college weight program).
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Tried finding out how big Deion
was when he came into Florida State. My guess was around 175 or so. By most accounts he was only 195 in the pros (which wasn’t too bad considering his style).
Corners now, however, need to be slightly more physical that a Deion type.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
What coaches are working on which recruits?
I know we are shining a bright light on Chuck’s shortcomings, but is the Big Board going to include specifics on our coaches interaction with these recruits?
Hmm, maybe later in the season as it becomes more clear.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
I think that should be what BB does for the rest of his time.
Hes not coaching for the most part so, at least not like Jo Pa. Send hes butt on the trail during the season and let Jimbo take more of his job. This way the coaches have less to worry about during the football season.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
A predicted class:
QB: Too early to tell
RB: Debrale Smiley
RB: Brandon Gainer
RB/Ath: Eduardo Clements
WR: Chris Dunkley
WR: De’Joshua Johnson
WR: Christian Green
OL: Ed Christian
OL: Chaz Green
DT: Anthony McCloud
DT: Denzel McCoy
DL: Darious Cummings
DL: Brandon Willis
DE: David Perry
DE: Telvin Smith
LB: Jeff Luc
LB: Christian Jones
CB: Lamarcus Joyner
CB: Derek Owens
CB: Cody Riggs
S/Ath: Jarred Haggins
For better or worse, Jarred Haggins will be in this class, and as early as March 21st. UF has just offered him at Safety. Maybe the principle way I evaluate a prospect’s talent and potential at a certain position is to check to see if he has an offer from a school that has established it’s validity and consistency in evaluating said position. UF for Safeties is a good one, UVa for OL, too. And, for what its worth, UF has offered Haggins as a Safety.
I’ve gone back and forth on Lattimore. From what I’ve most recently gathered, the familial influence, community influence, and monetary influence will bind him too tightly with South Carolina for anything Jimbo says to make much of an impact.
Gainer and Clements are FSU leans at this point and for the conceivable future, regardless of what is said publicly.
Smiley is a semi-controversial issue. FSUn has heard things that would lead him to believe that he may flip for GT, while, either naively or obdurately, I choose to maintain that he’s a sure signing to FSU. He should be our number 1 target at RB, and this staff has maintained a pretty good track record when it comes to signing their #1 targets at any position (Debose was not, keep in mind, that honor goes first to Haulstead and secondly to Rodney Smith).
DJ would have committed already were it not for the sentimental significance of announcing on his fallen teammates’ anniversary, or his coach’s insistence to stay away from a (too) early commitment.
Chris Dunkley is really the only stretch on my hypothesized list. Granted, it was known that he was a strong gator lean before Debose’s commitment. However, it’s a lot closer now. At the moment, we’re very slightly behind UF, but closing. I don’t think UGa is a serious consideration: rarely will a south florida recruit go OOS when all three of the big three want him. He’s our #1 target at WR, so we know Jimbo, Coley, and Dawsey will be all over him early and often.
Christian Green, like FSUStateOfMind remarked, should commit on the 21st. And at 6’3, 200, 4.4, and maybe the most impressive offer list in Florida, we’re getting a player.
Aubrey Phillips served as the indicator that no longer is Trickett obligated in taking 2 and 3 star underrated guys. After so many freshmen All-Americans and good production here at FSU, the star gurus will not have reason to moan. However, he’s still as fickle and mercurial as ever in his selection, so Chaz Green is nothing more than a guess. Ed Christian has the personality and tenacity of Rodney Hudson with Zebrie Sanders’ frame.
My purposed DL class would be the best in the country. More importantely, it would thoroughly meet every need we’ve suffered there. McCloud would serve, both temporally, and talent-wise, as just what the doctor ordered at the 1-technique. McCoy is just as talented at the 3-tech as McAllister, but with 25 more pounds as a rising senior. Willis and Cummings are Rivals 100 talent (Willis a near 5 star lock) that would conceivably be able to play three or even all four positions along the line (the versatility for which FSUn aches). David Perry gives us the 6’7 natural SDE for which I ache, and Telvin Smith could play WDE and will strengthen our Lowndes pipeline without feeling like a waste.
Jeff Luc will be a five star before this cycle has eclipsed. His film is the most impressive that I’ve seen since I’ve followed recruiting. Christian Jones is accumulating very impressive interest and offers, most recently USC and OU. He should commit on the 21st.
And finally, Lamarcus Joyner is the best player in the country. He should be a 6 star. OSU slightly leads, but most expect that to vanish once he gets on campus and meets Terrelle Buckley face to face. Derek Owens gives us size and physicality without sacrificing hips and acceleration, and Cody Riggs accrued 8 interceptions in 6A ball last year.
by CaStauch on Mar 4, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Yeah,
but it wouldn’t be a big deal. There are, in all honesty, like 20 other Cornerbacks from Florida you could plug in for Riggs and not miss much. That’s the heaviest position in a deep, deep class.
After Joyner, Owens is my personal #2 pick at CB. He’s reminds me of Janoris Jenkins in his size, physical presence (in that he doesn’t get rubbed off easily) and lateral acceleration.
Did someone say Janoris Jenkins?
Yes Please.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
That's the most spring-and-fall-practice-and-upcoming-season-dependent position
A serious injury during the season, and we could take three.
Ty Jones being sidelined with injuries/diabetes for a second consecutive season, and we could take three.
Pressely never regaining his health until late in the season or beyond, and we could take three.
Jermaine Thomas suffers more concussions, and we could take three.
And I’m inclined to look at Eduardo more as a .5 of a RB, like Chris Thompson. He’d serve as a flexible piece that could line up as a back on long downs, motion out to the slot for bubbles, etc.
Yeah, we do, but keeping in mind our LB coach for at least one more season
Those two are about as optimistic as I could be. Luc is the priority, though.
If we pull some of the D-line guys you are talking about
and with the guys we got this year, Our D-line could become one of if not the best in college football around 2012. At lease that what I think you are saying.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Nice post CS
What do you think of CG as a QB? I have to say I am impressed and we know that mobility at the QB spot is everything in college that it is not in the NFL.
CG? Who's that
I’ve not watched much 2010 QB film yet, just Philip Sims since he’s a VA boy. I like what I see from him, mainly in his deliberate and composed approach to the pocket (the easiest and arguably most important thing you can draw from HS QB film.)
Oh
I’d like him there, but from all indications, it’s his plan to move to WR for college, so it’d be in vain.
Very doable, sick either way.
Odell is doin’ work.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
Seems like O’dell is doing much better these past two years than years before. Am I correct in this?
Yes, you are.
O’Dell’s value has always been as a great recruiter and good coach. He’s doing well in recruiting now.
I wonder if Jimbo said anything to him or if O’dell just saw the writing on the wall. Glad he’s willing to fight for his job unlike others on the staff.
With what he has to work with.
He has a great DC for the most part. Though MA is getting out-dated hes still has a great football mind. I bash on change all the time but look at who O’dell is working with.
Chuck “The Clown” Amato
Jody “little Chuck” Allen
Mickey Andrews “the greatest Def. mind of the 90’s not so much sence 2000”
I think O’dell is a keeper. I just wish they would give him the whole D-line.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Joyner
It has been said that he is worried about the instability with our Defensive coaches. You mention things should clear up once he meets T Buck, do you think T Buck could leave to take a coaching position in the next couple of years if Mickey doesnt retire after next season?
Well, sure
But, from what I’ve heard, recruits have been made aware of potential choices for the LB and DB coach, and also the Defensive Coordinator. It has been mentioned by more than a few, and publicly, that T-Buck is the heir apparent for DB coach, too.
From that, and from Mickey telling recruits this past 2009 class that they can count on him for one more year, most of us expect the next swathe of coaching change to take place after the 2009 season.
It cannot be understated how much Lamarcus Joyner idolizes Terrelle Buckley from his time at FSU and the Dolphins.
I don't want to put words in his mouth, but frequent poster genron has connections with LJ...
and he says our staff is not currently doing nearly as much as others to try to sway Lamarcus.
I think it will be over when he meets Deion at Seminole Showtime . . . .
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
I know its too early to tell
But do you guys think that we have a top 5 recruiting class in 2010?
And, if the Southeast is as fertile as it seems to be, do you think that Florida and Miami will also have monster recruiting classes?
Florida State, Florida, and Miami should all have top ten classes this year.
Unless Miami has their worst season ever, all of their coaches get fired, etc.
I don’t know how the rest of the country is shaping up (USC, Ohio State, ND, Alabama, Texas, OU, and LSU ALWAYS do well in recruiting), but at least one of the Big Three will get a top 5 class.
Right now, March 4, 2009, with exactly 11 months until Signing Day 2010, I would say that we have the best chance of being that team from Florida in the top 5. We just have to have coaches that will do their jobs and take care of business.
Ahead of Florida?
They will take a larger class than us this year. I think we will all get our share, but with the gates taking a larger class and coming off a MNC, my money goes on them pulling in the best class out of the three.
UF is shaping out to have the #1 class, while our numbers will cap us at #4
If we landed my hypothetical class, it would be composed of, maybe:
-Three or Four 5 Stars (depending on how dominant Smiley is and whether Luc gets a 5th star-Willis and Joyner are almost assured)
-Between Thirteen and Sixteen 4 stars
-As many as eleven Rivals’ 100 players
-At least two three stars: David Perry and Telvin Smith
Florida and the Southeast is loaded
I added Lattimore to your class, giving us an extra 5 star and pushing us past UF...
but you are probably right about our numbers.
We could end up like USC has been recently, when they sign 18 players: 5 five stars and 13 four stars in the top 200.
We picked a bad year to have scholly reductions.
Hopefully the NCAA doesn’t increase that number
Florida is going out of state too much . . . .
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
UF is going to fall.
I give them 3 years. See this is whats going to happen. Charly Wiss is going to drop the ball big time next year. Hes going to get fired. ND is going to drop a ton of money to Myers because everyone knows his dream is to coach at ND. So Uf will lose Myers and Tebow. They lost there OC and DC this year I though to other schools. And then all this talent they get is going to fall on some other guy and unless its Leach the TTec guy I think what happend at Tenn will happen there and FSU becomes the power of FL where they Rightfully belong.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Even if Miami had their worst season ever, I don't think it would make much difference.
305 till I die, brah
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
OL
I see you have us taking only two OL in your predicted class. I know we are stacked pretty good right now with young talent, but Trick seems to be throwing a lot of offers out there this year to some elite talent. You think we could take 3-4 high quality OL this year?
If we take 4
I would look at that as an indication that Ganguzza, Furlong, and Bellamy will all have shortened stays.
Heard from a close Clemson guy that they are not interested in David Olson, the QB from SC.
Also, I might move Anthony Gonzalez to Athlete, because he’s not much of a thrower.
Well they just got their big QB
for the next four years and I believe they have depth there don’t they? No need for them to get in quarterback chases (just like we didn’t this past season).
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
What do people think about not taking a QB this year?
The 2010 class isn’t that strong, we’ll have 3 on scholarship, and 2011 seems to be a big QB year.
Also, it would give the separation from EJ and Secord that would be palatable for any blue chipper.
I don't want us to reach for a QB. If there is a high 4* type who wants to come, I'm fine with that.
Even if he’s a very talented but super raw 3* type, and willing to redshirt, I’m fine with that as well.
Get a QB in every class...
Most important position on the field, and you just never know when that Gatorade Player of the Year will be a BUST! cough Kyle Wright cough
Of course there are exceptions to the rule, but in pretty much all cases I would try to land 1.
Remember when we were were talking about Kevin Steele being unhappy at Bama and
potentially coming back here….Too late now. Will this give Clemson some insight into to our defense? KS knows MA…..oh well, I digress.
This recruiting thread is great, and I like what I’m seeing and hearing. I can’t wait to see our 2009 class in action this year. I’m ready for football!
Like anyone needs tips on our defense.
It has stayed the same for 25 years.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
Does anyone have a scout membership?
Can you watch the Devon Wright vids and give a report?
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
Alec Ogletree
I’m on the MattD train with Ogletree. He needs to be a OLB.
Kill a fly with an axe - Mickey Andrews, his 1998 playbook
Nice article.
I have missed the recruiting threads. It looks like our class going to end up being a good one. I am really excited to see if we get Christian Green. He looks to be a explosive playmaker.
Nice Job
Great article. I also enjoyed the 2010 Recruiting Board. Nicely done. Devon Wright’s film is pretty impressive for such a raw talent. I think he will project as a FS in college.
Jimbo was at the baseball game (a loss to UNF).
Looked like he was with a recruit, though. Anyone supposed to be visiting this week?
lol, nah
Trail could be offered a walk on spot, and he’d commit on the spot to the canes.
I'm a fan of the Fighting T.Y.'s...
Did I say something that bashed the Noles?
T.Y. "Goodbye" Hilton
FIU Golden Panthers. I love what Mario is doing down there, hope he can build that program into something on the national level in the years to come.
Grew up in Illinois, but hate the Zooker so got to wait til he’s fired.
Since moving here I would like to see the Canes do well, but that staff is all out of whack when it comes to recruiting.
I really don’t have anything against the Noles, but the quotes about film to Phillip Thomas and Eduardo were pretty questionable guys. Just be straight with the players (reason why I hate the Zooker). I understand programs have to ‘slow play’ kids at times for better prospects, but somehow be more tactful than “Too busy watching Wisconsin film to watch yours.”
I don't think we messed up.
Just because we held the offer for a little longer. That’s smart in some cases.
How do we know lying was involved?
That’s a strong accusation.
Is that attributable to Jimbo?
or is it the defensive side?
Teammate of Lil Trickett
Here is a rundown of what ESPN said of him at the Orlando Combine.
OL: Gage Baxter, 6-2.5, 282, Tallahassee (Fla.) North Florida Christian
Results: 5.47 40, 5.14 shuttle, 36’ PB, 22.7" VJ, 61.68 SPARQ.
Breakdown: This Chiles transfer joins QB Clint Trickett as DI prospects at defending 1A champions NFC.
He was one of the 5 OL they said stood out down there. Numbers sound like he could grow into a decent size and I would think Coach Trickett would know a bit about him to have an idea of his potential.
by osceolafan850 on Mar 5, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
5.47 40 at 6' 3" 282 is really questionable.
I think we might be looking at a Non-BCS conference prospect.
I wonder what stood out about him? 36 on the Powerball isn’t impressive either.
Granted, ti’s tough to evaluate these kids based solely on those numbers and I have not seen any film on him.
Probably.....
……But Miami isn’t out of it for Eduardo yet. They have him as their top priority for RB’s in ’10. FSU has him 3rd.

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